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[AggieDad1]

One of the leading drivers for ladies going to work in Pattaya is their mothers. Its hard to imagine, but often the moms pressure their daughters to go work bar. And push them into customer relationships with old Farangs.

I saw a Facebook post from a mom today, showing her daughter and me in a photo from years ago. The mom wants the daughter to go back with me, despite the daughter having a Farang boyfriend and a Thai husband. Plus, I am banging her sister.

In my case it is a 40 something Thai mom who I banged on my last visit. She now wants me to bring my 30 year old son with me on my next visit so she can hook him up with her her 20 year old daughter. Even though her daughter is in a long term relationship with a Thai guy.

[Explorer8939]

One of the leading drivers for ladies going to work in Pattaya is their mothers. Its hard to imagine, but often the moms pressure their daughters to go work bar. And push them into customer relationships with old Farangs.

I saw a Facebook post from a mom today, showing her daughter and me in a photo from years ago. The mom wants the daughter to go back with me, despite the daughter having a Farang boyfriend and a Thai husband. Plus, I am banging her sister.

[Paolo99]

This is exactly what I was talking about. You personalized the conversation. I never mentioned a pacific fellow member. I was simply trying to point out that we all have a right to behave as we do and spend money as we wish and it really shouldn't concern anybody else. I freely admit that if there are members who have issues with this there are possible explanations. Why get so agitated Paolo. Chill bro.

Pardon my misunderstanding Gerry.

I wrongly thought this topic originated from a specific disucussion.

I didn't realize you guys were philosophizing from scratch, probably the reason Admin moved the discussion to this thread as it had nothing to do with Pattaya.

[Paolo99]

Just like massages. Everybody knows that getting a massage on Beach Road or Walking Street will be 300 baht. Go back to Soi Buakhao and they will be 200 baht. Go a little further to where I live off 3rd Road and you will pay 150 baht. Who would get bent out of shape over someone telling them where they could get the same massage for cheaper.

Thanks for that good piece of information.

Yesterday I wanted a 2 h Thai massage and I took you by your Word.

I thought fuck that place on soi Buakhao that overcharged me at 200 baht like a dumb tourist that I am, I'd rather go a little further and found the exact same quality at 150 and save a lot of money (100 bahts gets me at least 2 meals in Pattaya) .

So I look all along 3rd road (from Pattaya klang to Pattaya Tai) and couldn't find any below 200.

Then I took it far down soi17 until some places I've never even been to although I used to live in that soi in the past and couldn't see any massage place below 200.

Eventually the heat made me change my plans as I got tired, so I thought fuck that 150 massage that I cannot find, I 'd better go back in the confort of my air-conditionned room and get a good free Coffee there instead (these are the best coffees).

Once there I realised you made me save 500 baht (at least 12 good meals in Pattaya), so thanks again, it was a very usefull piece of information that you shared.

[SubCmdr]

If I was in France or Japan I would not expect to be getting a chick for $40 all night, but I am in Thailand where I know what good money $40 is. I have a chick that works quality control at the Honda factory. Today was her day off, but she went in to work. For working 11 hours on her off day she gets 2000 baht. Knowing this do you really think fucking someone for 1 hour is worth 2000 baht around here on a local market? Do you think a man in her same position is going out giving his 2000 baht overtime pay to a farmer hooker for 1 hour? I seriously doubt it. This is Thailand.

You can make this argument about almost any place in the entire world that has low wages. I remember someone once bragging they had just bought a waterproof phone (probably cost 1 K USD). I know there are phones that sell for 200 USD that will make phone calls, text, Whatsapp and take photos. And yet, people choose to purchase phones that can cost upwards of 1500+ USD. So, I still I am having trouble understanding why others are critical. Sharing of information is great. I want to know where I can get a iPhone 14 pro max 512 K for a fraction of the price. As an individual who lives in a sex tourist country also, I can tell you without a doubt that the amount visitors report paying is no where close to what I often wind up paying. And often I cannot even compare. How do you compare a non-pro that needs help for the month with rent and fucks you whenever you want without asking for any other money?

Today I made a deal to buy some land. I spoke with the owner directly. I explained what I wanted. He gave me his price. I agreed. No negotiation. I overpaid. Dearly. But the land is very important to me. More important than the money I have to pay for it that is sitting in the bank. It is a very simple concept. The value of a dollar is absolute. But the value the individual places on that dollar is variable. Most of the time everyone can pay less for something. And I appreciate the excellent post where you explained how do that when it come to pussy in Thailand. But no man should be critical of how another man spends his money. Sharing information is very different from being critical..

[Mr Enternational]

This is exactly how I feel. The man who earns $500,000 per year is going to have less financial stress from a 7,000 baht LT go-go girl than the man who earns $50,000 per year has from an 800 baht ST freelancer. That rich man isn't going to want to negotiate price

But some guys realize where they are and pay accordingly. I had a Thai Friendly chick come over the other night. I was trying to explain the stock market to her. She said I do not understand that shit. I am just a regular farmer.

99% of the chicks in Pattaya are just regular farmers, but most of the rich foreigners do not understand that. They are just happy to see a chick nekkit and to be getting some pussy, so out come the big numbers. Like I said before, they would not go to their local trailer park and open up their wallet wide. Likewise this person making $500,000 probably would not go to bumfuck Issan where these chicks are from and open up their wallets like that. Pattaya is just a place where all the trailer park chicks come to get money from rich foreigners.

I was at TreeTown the other night talking with a friend. He told me about a chick he had worked out a price of 1500 baht to come over for all night. He said right before coming she tried to change the price to 2000. He said no. We agreed on 1500. She said you can not find another 500 to give me? He said I can find another 10,000, but that does not mean I am giving it to you. It is not about financial stress. It is about knowing that you are in Thailand.

If I was in France or Japan I would not expect to be getting a chick for $40 all night, but I am in Thailand where I know what good money $40 is. I have a chick that works quality control at the Honda factory. Today was her day off, but she went in to work. For working 11 hours on her off day she gets 2000 baht. Knowing this do you really think fucking someone for 1 hour is worth 2000 baht around here on a local market? Do you think a man in her same position is going out giving his 2000 baht overtime pay to a farmer hooker for 1 hour? I seriously doubt it. This is Thailand.

[Mr Enternational]

But finding a massage a cheaper price based on location is far cry from the claim that you can fuck the exact same girl for less money. I question that assumption. You can always fuck any girl for less money than another girl. But I would like to see you present and example of how you can fuck the exact same girl for less money.

I am not saying that you can actively do this. But it happens passively more than a little bit. Everyone knows that gogos are the most expensive places to find a chick. There is nothing special about any chick in a gogo. If there was, then you could point these same chicks out when they are not in a gogo and going about their daily routine. They do not hide inside in the day like vampires and only go out at night when the gogo opens. Nobody keeps them caged up except when the gogos open.

Thing is that the same chicks go to different venues. If you get her at the gogo then you could be paying 5000. Many of those chicks go to discos when they get off work and you can get them for as little as 1000 to 1500. Many of those chicks go to the market in the daytime and you can talk to them and get them for 1000.

The best example is when I reported being at Kinnaree. You fuck a girl there for 1000 plus 300 for the room. The girl told me that she also works at Whats Up gogo and had to go there early in the night to get her hair and makeup done before the place opens.

So while I paid 1300 for the chick in her day job, these are the prices you are subject to for meeting her at her night job. Same girl, different place, different price.

Prices at What's Up & Imagine Club in Pattaya.

Bar Fine: 1500 baht (1000 baht after midnight).

Short time: 2-3 k baht.

Long time: 4-5 k baht.

https://thaigogobar.com/reviews/gogo...ub-in-pattaya/

Even on Thai Friendly yesterday I was talking to a girl that said she works in a gogo. Surely she is not going to expect the same 3000 from meeting her on Thai Friendly than she would if you walked into the gogo where she works.

[Mr Enternational]

Guys make money and they are entitled to spend that money anyway they want.

Sure. But it is still weird to see a guy walk into McDonald's and pay $15 for a $5 Big Mac.

It is nonsense that a few guys are affecting the market as a whole.

It may seem like nonsense until it actually happens. Take a look in the Costa Rica, Sosua, and Cartagena threads for exact examples of this nonsense as you claim it to be.

This time last year, I was picking up girls for two or three hours for around 200.000 to 300.000 COP without fuss. Overnight was only around 400.000 to 500.000 COP.

I have been here for two nights now, and now all the girls are quoting their fees in USD only. Some have the audacity to charge 100 USD for un rato. But I have noticed the standard one hour at 100 USD and then overnight is an additional 400.000 COP on top.

The market here in Cartagena has been completely ruined now compared to last year and previous few years. Street girls shouldn't be charging 900.000 COP plus for an overnight.

I'm here now and experiencing the same exact thing. Girls that I've fucked for 300 k are quoting $150. I offered a girl 350 k and she told me it wasn't enough to feed her dog. I know Cartagena is viral but Jesus Christ a lot has changed in a year. Personally I won't be back for a while if ever. Unless you feel like waiting for 3/4 am every night to find a chica that hasn't gotten picked or it's going to be a challenge to find a girl for under 400 k. I hope I'm wrong but I won't be back to find out.

[HorseTrader]

The comments about what other guys pay and criticism that they are suckers or idiots is just silly. Guys make money and they are entitled to spend that money anyway they want. It is nonsense that a few guys are affecting the market as a whole.

This is exactly how I feel. The man who earns $500,000 per year is going to have less financial stress from a 7,000 baht LT go-go girl than the man who earns $50,000 per year has from an 800 baht ST freelancer. That rich man isn't going to want to negotiate price or deal with girls who don't have the looks and personality that he wants. There are relatively few of these high income men, so they won't materially change the Thailand P4P price structure. He will enjoy his money any way he wants.

[Mr Enternational]

How much do you pay for where you live? I see some have condos. I've seen some condos on YouTube for as cheap as 5,000 thai baht a month or $150 usd. If you've seen these in real life are they clean and a good cheap option?

Yes it is just a normal place. Pool, laundry, gym. Keep in mind that the closer you are to the action the more you pay. But here in Pattaya there are plenty of virtually new condos at that price in Jomtien.

[Horatio]

How much do you pay for where you live? I see some have condos. I've seen some condos on YouTube for as cheap as 5,000 thai baht a month or $150 usd. If you've seen these in real life are they clean and a good cheap option? I kind of want the Rawai area of phuket but would still appreciate any advice on anywhere in thailand.

Does anyone just do years in motels, just traveling about? The very top end of my budget for housing is.

20,000 thb a month or $600 usd but I would like to cut that as low as possible while still a nice place to live. Clean and in a location with stuff to walk to is most important.

Thank you for any help.

[GerryGa]

You're completely lost man.

This is exactly what I was talking about. You personalized the conversation. I never mentioned a pacific fellow member. I was simply trying to point out that we all have a right to behave as we do and spend money as we wish and it really shouldn't concern anybody else. I freely admit that if there are members who have issues with this there are possible explanations. Why get so agitated Paolo. Chill bro.

[MoonShot]

It comes down to the following questions: 1. Is there a qualitative difference in pussy? Yes. Can that qualitative difference be determined by the price quoted by the prostitute you intend to hire? No.

Because, I have no experience in Thailand (first trip planned for later this year) I have to comment from my experience on the Latin American side. I am going to leave the characterization that has been proffered by RacSopheni alone. I am not going to come up in here and claim that anyone is lying on their dick.

The bottom line is that pussy is a market and there are different price points. Everyone pays what they choose to pay.

I have paid anywhere from 1000 DOP to 300 USD to bust a nut in the same country in Latin America. I remember the experiences not the payment. If you ask me was the 2 orgasms I received for 300 USD better than the 2 orgasms I received for 1000 DOP I will tell you no. In my mind they were equal. But I will tell you that I remember both experiences vividly. And I would repeat them both. Did I know that the 300 USD experience would be one for the memory books? No I did not. Did I know that the 1000 DOP experience would be one for the memory books? No, I did not. Was the 300 USD girl more attractive than the 1000 DOP girl? Not at all. They were two different girls with completely different body types and they were not even from the same country..

The comments about what other guys pay and criticism that they are suckers or idiots is just silly. Guys make money and they are entitled to spend that money anyway they want. It is nonsense that a few guys are affecting the market as a whole. There is a range of girls available for different prices. Not all mongers are in the same financial position. I know a number of guys in the financial field who make millions every year who enjoy going to Thailand and spending that cash. What they pay the girls is peanuts to them and they don't care about trying to negotiating down 1000 or 2000 baht on a girl because they make that in less than five minutes. The point is that every monger is different and not every monger cares about trying to negotiating down to the lowest price that the girl will take.

[SubCmdr]

Just like massages. Everybody knows that getting a massage on Beach Road or Walking Street will be 300 baht. Go back to Soi Buakhao and they will be 200 baht. Go a little further to where I live off 3rd Road and you will pay 150 baht. Who would get bent out of shape over someone telling them where they could get the same massage for cheaper, the way some guys get bent out of shape by someone telling them how they could fuck literally the same girl for cheaper.

I am all ears about the massage information. Note that you did not judge. You just provided information. Thank you for that. That is how I learn. But finding a massage a cheaper price based on location is far cry from the claim that you can fuck the exact same girl for less money. I question that assumption. You can always fuck any girl for less money than another girl. But I would like to see you present and example of how you can fuck the exact same girl for less money.

Most of the times, the judgment occurs because someone is doing something differently from someone else.

Couldn't agree with you more. To hell with the begrudgers. Who are these self-appointed self-styled arbiters of taste and values who while supposedly happy playing in their own corner of the sandbox feel entitled to judge others who choose to freely and enjoyably travel in a different direction. Is it possibly jealousy because of their inadequate finances or perhaps a more perverted know all control freak personality? Either way who cares, if I feel like paying 10,000 for a night out I go for it with no regrets and you know it's always been my strong impression that those who spend money freely enjoy a more fulfilled life.

In complete agreement with you Brother GerryGa. Spend your money how you like. I enjoy saving money on plane flights. I enjoy saving money on pussy. But if I want an Angus Ribeye I am going to pay what it takes to get it. And I don't care if you think red meat is bad for me and I shouldn't eat it. But if you want to tell me where I can get my Angus Ribeye of equal quality at a lesser price I am all ears.

Agree with both points- but try as we might to retain our equanimity I think we are always passing judgements on others. The problem is everyone's rating scale is calibrated differently and that can make it hard to evaluate field intelligence. For example- when I used to read the Medellin threads, there was always some guy talking about scoring a 9 in Centro for some ridiculous low price- which is a total farce- 9's don't go to Central unless they are trying to make some quick money to pay the Cartel or something. He probably scored a 6. 5 but to him; it was a 9. My 8 may be Chan Chalupa's 5, etc. Etc. So guys get huffed and puffed when bragging is made and clearly there is a disconnect from reality. We never can really know the truth, only version of it.

Agree also about the Pussy market. Market forces have a collective wisdom that's smarter than any one punter. Occasionally inefficiencies exist that can be exploited but the rule of large numbers flattens out most relative divergence.

You make my point about quality RakSopheni. That is the problem. My analogy of the Plane Ticket can only go so far. As we know were are comparing equal things. But even then no. If you have a direct flight as opposed to one that takes 4 stops and is 4 times as long. Then you have to factor in the trade off between your time and money. My point is no one else can judge the decision that I make when choosing the importance of the two. I have no problem with the people who are cheep Charlies. If I want to buy something more expensive, I figure out how to make more money (or save up) to buy it. That is not getting bent out of shape. That is real man shit!.

How much for complete full service that you described?

Speaking of judgement just take a look a this post:

Nobody tried to ridiculize anyone or be a self-appointed arbiters of taste as you said.

Read back the last posts and you'll see that Mr Sopheni said he didn't understand why one would blow up more money than what he did by going a different path than him (Gogos vs freelancers).

He got some answers as to why but nobody told him he's got it wrong the way he does it and you come out with your tyrade of self-appointed arbiters, inadequate finance, jalousy and control freak personnality.

Youre completely lost man.

The defense rests.

[Paolo99]

Couldn't agree with you more. To hell with the begrudgers. Who are these self-appointed self-styled arbiters of taste and values who while supposedly happy playing in their own corner of the sandbox feel entitled to judge others who choose to freely and enjoyably travel in a different direction. Is it possibly jealousy because of their inadequate finances or perhaps a more perverted know all control freak personality? Either way who cares, if I feel like paying 10,000 for a night out I go for it with no regrets and you know it's always been my strong impression that those who spend money freely enjoy a more fulfilled life.

Nobody tried to ridiculize anyone or be a self-appointed arbiters of taste as you said.

Read back the last posts and you'll see that Mr Sopheni said he didn't understand why one would blow up more money than what he did by going a different path than him (Gogos vs freelancers).

He got some answers as to why but nobody told him he's got it wrong the way he does it and you come out with your tyrade of self-appointed arbiters, inadequate finance, jalousy and control freak personnality.

You're completely lost man.