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  1. #67
    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaWet  [View Original Post]
    Was wondering, has anyone experienced any blackmail by a cub manager or club WG. For example, suppose the manager or the WG at Red Square discovers your identity through your phone number or WhatsApp (because you were drunk and sloppy), and then afterwards blackmails you.

    This hasn't happened to me yet. Just wondering if this occurs sometimes in Dubai?
    Nope, never. And I never heard about it either. This doesn't happen. And if it would happen, then I guess filing a report at the police would easily stop it. Whenever I dealt with the police, I felt them utmost friendly and professional, even it was somewhat related to a hobby (reporting lost passport of WG).

  2. #66
    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaWet  [View Original Post]
    Was wondering, has anyone experienced any blackmail by a cub manager or club WG. For example, suppose the manager or the WG at Red Square discovers your identity through your phone number or WhatsApp (because you were drunk and sloppy), and then afterwards blackmails you.

    This hasn't happened to me yet. Just wondering if this occurs sometimes in Dubai?
    I never carry my wallet or ID, only cash and my phone is a burner, sort of, nothing on it, email, FB, IG etc can be traced back to the real me. There are stories of people being robbed which attending an incall, but I haven't heard of any Manager / WG actively blackmailing a client, yet. Maybe some of the more seasoned seniors can add more history for you.

  3. #65
    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaWet  [View Original Post]
    Was wondering, has anyone experienced any blackmail by a cub manager or club WG. For example, suppose the manager or the WG at Red Square discovers your identity through your phone number or WhatsApp (because you were drunk and sloppy), and then afterwards blackmails you.

    This hasn't happened to me yet. Just wondering if this occurs sometimes in Dubai?
    Honestly, it didn't happen to me, even in RS or contact RS agent send WG to my hotel.

  4. #64

    Club Manager Scams

    Was wondering, has anyone experienced any blackmail by a cub manager or club WG. For example, suppose the manager or the WG at Red Square discovers your identity through your phone number or WhatsApp (because you were drunk and sloppy), and then afterwards blackmails you.

    This hasn't happened to me yet. Just wondering if this occurs sometimes in Dubai?

  5. #63

    Does it depend on nationality?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocko20  [View Original Post]
    4. Do not go with women who ask for payment upfront. Yes it takes time, yes you have to look around, but these women do exist. I have negotiated payment afterwards and I have great service.
    I am more familiar with the spa scene where most masseuse require upfront payment for first timers. Same goes for AAMPs where the manager requires you to pay once you picked the girl. Most of my experiences with takeout foods (I. E. Bringing the WG to your hotel) were in my home country in Europe and same protocol applies. My impression is that Arabs in particular would not accept payment at the end. Is that a nationality thing? In any case, we need to cover our asses given the latest scam stories.

  6. #62
    Quote Originally Posted by Rocko20  [View Original Post]
    These women have nothing to lose, but most of us do.


    Moroccans are risky. Im very cautious of Moroccans.
    All golden words. Some of these women are bat shit crazy, they have been deported multiple times, been in jail, you name it. They are not afraid to cause a scene. And yes, Moroccans are very risky and extremely money minded (aren't they all?) but I'm always extra cautious and usually avoid Moroccans after one particular very bad experience with one in Bahrain years ago.

  7. #61
    Quote Originally Posted by Timmy8907  [View Original Post]
    Hello gents!!

    So I got screwed over tonight. (actually just a few minutes ago, not even half an hour has passed since the lady left).
    1. You never ever give anyone your keycard. That in itself is a violation of privacy AND theft. You can and should report that to the hotel.

    2. When you "signed her in" it means the reception scanned her passport. Obviously you don't want to report that a hooker robbed you, but if you truly feel bad about it then the hotel needs to know she atleast took your keycard (at the very least, they can block her from the hotel in the future).

    3. Go to to the meat markets. Stop trying to meet people off Twitter, tinder, or escort ads. Go to the meat markets (hotel bars / clubs with working women), and you're speaking directly to the manager or you know where to find the scammer.

    4. Do not go with women who ask for payment upfront. Yes it takes time, yes you have to look around, but these women do exist. I have negotiated payment afterwards and I have great service.

    5. Relax, it happens. Better to be robbed than to cause a scene and be confrontational. These women have nothing to lose, but most of us do.

    Quote Originally Posted by Timmy8907  [View Original Post]
    She was Morrocan.
    Moroccans are risky. I almost got scammed by one in Bahrain but I called it off. Yes she was beautiful but had too many demands. First she doubled the routine price, then I had to go get cigarets, then find a specific hotel, etc.

    Then we get to the hotel and she wants to drink first and she demands payment upfront, mind you, after she just witnessed me pull the money out of an ATM (so she obviously knows Im going to pay).

    Long story short, I bailed and decided to go get some Thai women instead. I absolutely love Thai women, but I like to mix it up as well.

    Anyways, lesson learned. Im very cautious of Moroccans.

  8. #60
    Man I fell to that same trick about 3 years ago. Lesson for me was:

    1- don't pay full unless she undress.

    2-she could never leave a taxi with our paying. So that's an old trick.

    3- if she wants to pay taxi give her a 100 and ask her to come back to get the rest after the deed.

    Quote Originally Posted by Timmy8907  [View Original Post]
    Hello gents!!

    So I got screwed over tonight. (actually just a few minutes ago, not even half an hour has passed since the lady left).

    I decided to try another Twitter agent, and got myself scammed. I guess I got over confident after the first semi-successful foray into Twitter mongerring.

    The whole set up was exactly like the first, which I guess added to my confidence. I chose a lady from their line up, then they asked for the hotel and room number, as well as a picture of they keycard. They put the lady in contact with me, and she told me she's on the way and let me know when she arrived.

    When she got here, I went down to get her, and holy crap! Gorgeous with what looked in her clothes to be an amazing rack.

    So we sign her in and she comes upstairs with me, we sit, chat for a couple minutes, then she asks for the money and taxi money. Fair enough, I hand over 1 k and 200 for the taxi, and she asks for the key card. She walks towards the door, and I thought what the fuck, I had a feeling I was screwed, so asked her, and she said she's going to the taxi. I pretty much knew I was scammed, but I'm incredibly non-confrontational. So I let her go, and wait a few minutes knowing she'the just robbed me, but not doing anything about it.

    Obviously she never returns and has blocked me on WhatsApp. I messaged the agent just in case the scam was only on her part and not the agent, but after listening to my voice note, the agent deletes all their messages to me and blocks me too.

    I guess moral of the story is don't get over confident and if the lady tries to go downstairs to "pay the taxi" keep your money till after or go down with her (though that probably won't help because it's not like we're going to make a scene in public.

    Anyway, I might try to get another lady still tonight, and if that works out I'll post a report on the main page.

  9. #59
    Quote Originally Posted by PlushTiger  [View Original Post]

    3- Whenever possible, shop for ST + option to upgrade for long term.
    This is golden advice and what I do now. Tell the girl that you will take her for ST (500 in most cases) and will repeat her or extend if she makes you happy. This helps you filter out the good ones from the ones not worth repeating.

    Quote Originally Posted by BoomerFun

    She was Morrocan.
    I hate to generalize but one of the worst WG experiences I have ever had has been with a Moroccan. They can be very sexy and explosive in bed, but also quite risky and dodgy.

  10. #58
    Quote Originally Posted by ThePervyMan  [View Original Post]

    I would share the girl picture in here but do what makes you comfortable.
    Unfortunately I don't have it. The agent deleted all the pics they sent when I said she disappeared (actually they accidentally left one before blocking me but if a different lady). I do have her and the agent's numbers, which I can share through PM if anyone wants them for any reason. I'm kind of tempted to message them off my other burner just to mess with them.

    Quote Originally Posted by BoomerFun  [View Original Post]

    Finally, can you please just share with us what was the nationality of the girl.
    She was Morrocan.

  11. #57

    That seems to be a new trend

    Quote Originally Posted by Snow1998  [View Original Post]
    What happened to you cannot be classified a scam! It's completely different to what Timmy went through. Your story is just an experience in learning to deal with a woman who is rushing and trying to finish quickly. I wouldn't have kept such a woman till morning but kicked her out. Also depends on what you discussed with her as her services before taking her. It's still not a scam in true definition.
    BoomerFun is right to raise the issue, the WGs argument is let's say quite valid but then as a punter you expose yourself the kind of scam Timmy8907 experienced, so it is somehow good that he raises it. Then the solutions can be:

    1- Tell her to leave something in the room, and do not give the access card. Offering to go and leave her in the room is not a good alternative to me, as she can sneak out anyway and even steal whatever valuables you have left in the room.

    2- Don't pay extra taxi money till she needs to leave, especially if you prepay. And 50 dirhams is in general enough and 100 the max. If anything you should just not fall prey to this psychological bias known as mental accounting. Soon they will charge a 1 k fee for the night and propose upgrades, like BBJ +100, uncovered+200, shower together +100 LOL.

    3- Whenever possible, shop for ST + option to upgrade for long term. From reading the forum, a good portion of WG once they get the cash, have all incentive to rush back to the club to hook another big fish, and try to do everything to ruin the experience.

    4- Whenever the girl is very cautious about the cash and asks to go down, this should set off the alarm. You have to know that for them punters are preys, they see and fuck men from all walks of life, probably several a day. So they are used to running this sort of schemes or scams and get along with it.

    Stay safe.

  12. #56
    Quote Originally Posted by Snow1998  [View Original Post]
    What happened to you cannot be classified a scam! It's completely different to what Timmy went through. Your story is just an experience in learning to deal with a woman who is rushing and trying to finish quickly. I wouldn't have kept such a woman till morning but kicked her out. Also depends on what you discussed with her as her services before taking her. It's still not a scam in true definition.
    It was the same situation that the visitor asked to go down to pay the money with the room card. I already paid for full night, I enjoyed her company till morning and she was really very nice. I deleted her number and regretting it now.

  13. #55

    Not really a scam.

    Quote Originally Posted by BoomerFun  [View Original Post]
    Hi Timmy,

    The same situation happened to me. I got one from the club at Hayatt place in deira for full night. When she arrived to the room she asked for the money and said her boss is outside waiting for the it. So, I can not force her to stay, it would spoil the atmosphere. I gave her the money (700) and the card. She came back but was in hurry. I though that she want to finish quickly in order to find excuse to leave. I planned a fun night with dinner and drink. I did not want to force things and went along and even we finished before the food we ordered arrived. After that she kept dancing and having fun. For me the chemistry is already low. Not horney anymore. She slept till morning and left.
    Finally, can you please just share with us what was the nationality of the girl.
    What happened to you cannot be classified a scam! It's completely different to what Timmy went through. Your story is just an experience in learning to deal with a woman who is rushing and trying to finish quickly. I wouldn't have kept such a woman till morning but kicked her out. Also depends on what you discussed with her as her services before taking her. It's still not a scam in true definition.

  14. #54

    Learning lesson

    Quote Originally Posted by Timmy8907  [View Original Post]
    Hello gents!!

    So I got screwed over tonight.
    .
    Hi Timmy,

    The same situation happened to me. I got one from the club at Hayatt place in deira for full night. When she arrived to the room she asked for the money and said her boss is outside waiting for the it. So, I can not force her to stay, it would spoil the atmosphere. I gave her the money (700) and the card. She came back but was in hurry. I though that she want to finish quickly in order to find excuse to leave. I planned a fun night with dinner and drink. I did not want to force things and went along and even we finished before the food we ordered arrived. After that she kept dancing and having fun. For me the chemistry is already low. Not horney anymore. She slept till morning and left.

    So don't feel bad. It is a lesson learned, next time till them what happened and make it clear that you will not pay in advance. Also no one pay 200 for taxi. The normal is 50, maximum is 100. If you want to pay more till her it is a tip. So she will appreciate it more. You can also tip the manager. Till her or whoever is managing the account that if things went great, you will send a gift. It can be apple any other cards that you only provide them the number to collect the rewards. Also for the girl, till her if the experience is great that you would buy her a gift next time. They appreciate the long term prospect and the recurring business.

    Finally, can you please just share with us what was the nationality of the girl.

  15. #53
    Quote Originally Posted by Timmy8907  [View Original Post]
    It's actually the first time I've ever been scammed, so I count myself lucky that all I lost was money and nobody was hurt. For they keycard, that's what I assumed.
    Ooof I feel bad, I hope you are safe now physically and mentally.

    Be careful when dealing with any girl asking to leave your room for any reason even if you know her.

    BTW, most people I know they give the Arabic girl their money at the end.

    If she pulls the taxi stunt (never happened to me), tell her to leave her bag or mobile and never give her the keycard.

    I would share the girl picture in here but do what makes you comfortable.

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