Advice for Indians visiting Thailand

[MusicalToM]

Guys,

I've a real tight situation over here. I'm into deep confusion.

I planned a trip for BKK / Pattaya for the very first time with my friend sometime back, but he dropped himself few days back. I decided to continue alone.

Now I got a contact from travel buddies site who is asking me to join with him. All the things can be sorted out but only one confusion I've in mind.

1-I spoke with him & he sounds okay. He already has gone to LOS for 5 times, thus knows every in and out. But he is completely unknown to me where as he can be great help since I'm new. Will it be a risk?

2-I can continue solo like I planned. But again since it's my very first time some unexpected situations might occur. If going with somebody who already has experience could be some help.

I've only couple of days to decide since flight tickets are going to be hiked. Some help would definitely be welcome.

[Samarth]

We were charged 50 o Baht entryfee into craxy house gogo.

Although didn't find such discrimination at other gogos like shark. Baccara had a board outside members only.

At NEP We didnot find any such entry fee but at one gogo we had to pay advance cash for ordered drinks.

Planning a trip to patayya soon don't know hows the scene there.

Actually I think, moustache is an identifier for either Indians, pakistanis or Gulfcountries.

I agree to some extend and mostly it's due to behavior of people. They go to gogo but don't buy drink and the way Indian look at girls and myself had that problem "we stare".

Our western counterpart includes smile while starring which makes it all good.

Also Thai people have that thing for white skin.

Remember to respect girls in gogo.

And it's all business there, white people can spend more money than us.

And even if they behave bad (few) and yes they do. They cannot do same thing with them as that industries thrive on them.

And we can be easily differentiated among them. So we are easily categorized and target.

There is no problem taking money at entry in this way they can insure they are running business not a free entry museum.

Remember Indian subcontinent gave them "The Great Buddha".

And they love Indian culture.

Everything else is all business.

[The Cane]

Baccara had a board outside members only.

When I was in Thailand, it was the start of the busy tourist season, and Baccara in Bangkok would so get packed to the gills! So packed some nights you could barely move. Both downstairs and upstairs! I would imagine that we're in the heart of the tourist season now, and the place could be getting so packed that they could be trying to exercise some crowd control. Too bad they feel they have to do it with this bogus "members only" bullshit. I made a few posts involving my door policy "incidents" in Thailand. Here's the general summary:

http://www.InternationalSexGuide.nl/forum/showthread.php?p=1816063

And here's what was going down at Baccara in Bangkok when I was there:

http://www.InternationalSexGuide.nl/forum/showthread.php?p=1812408

By the way, I am not Indian. I am African-American with a skin tone such as Barack Obama.

[Raju 1974]

We were charged 50 o Baht entryfee into craxy house gogo.

Although didn't find such discrimination at other gogos like shark. Baccara had a board outside members only.

At NEP We didnot find any such entry fee but at one gogo we had to pay advance cash for ordered drinks.

Planning a trip to patayya soon don't know hows the scene there.

Actually I think, moustache is an identifier for either Indians, pakistanis or Gulfcountries.

[MusicalToM]

I know there are people all around the world who behave like they are the king & all there bad behaviors should be ignored. These kind of people deserve the equal kind of behavior irrespective of their nationality.

At the BritishGuy who replied below: Dude don't be so rude when behaving in a public forum. If we'll start the tell about what you take from India in the disguise of Ruling then it'll be another chapter. Let's not go to that discussion since that will be utter waste of time. Just chill & enjoy mongering.

And to all others, I know since Tourists from India are more compared to other nationals the behaviors (let's say bad behaviors) of Indians get noticed more frequently. What we can do is try our part to behave as a human being & think about our nations image before making a scene in public.

The second most imp-important points is when going for mongering treat the women as a normal human being you meet in your daily life. I know in India prostitutes are treated very badly, which is not right. Again in Thailand it's completely different & prostitution is treated as any other normal profession. Be gentle & polite and I'm sure you'll get the best treatment.

Regards,

Fellow monger.

[BKKguru]

May I as a British citizen intrude on this thread?
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Indians, cool it and respect the Thais.

Visitors from China are a bigger nuisance. It has gotten so bad there are now signs in Suvarnabhumi Airport informing Chinese to "respect Buddha" and "not you-rinate in Public".

A big chunk of these Chinese live in the rural areas in China. When they visit Thailand it is their first international trip and it shows.

The reason you do not hear about this is because these folks do not speak English; and they certainly do not post on ISG!

Oh, I almost forgot - the British gave something back to China too. They gave an island called Hong Kong.

This should motivate you to translate your "cool it" message and offer free advise to the Chinese.

~BKKguru.

[Sana1970]

I had been to Thailand nearly 20 times and have traveled extensively from Hatyai, Yala near Malaysian border to Chiang Mai & Chiang rai up north near Myanmar & Laos. Nakhon and Khon in the Center including Not to mention the Bigger cities of Bangkok and touristy Pattaya & Phuket. Never I have encountered any negative attitudes nor sultry treatments. Thai people were always friendly to me and I have commanded highest reception in many of the GoGo bars and clubs. It's true that few would have encountered some bad treatments but to generalize it as "Indians" looks pathetic and gives negative vibes in public forum. Guys with bad attitude and who doesn't know to behave experiences negative treatment any where in the globe irrespective of his own nationality. May be there are too many Indians (almost 1 to 1.2 million out of 25 million tourists are Indians) visiting and definitely there will be some thugs in it who are visibly noticeable. If Indians are not welcomed in Thai then why the hell Thai tourism conduct tourism expo in Various cities in India to attract more Indiank Tourists. This forum is much exaggerated and make us feel shun in an international forum.

Note to fellow Indians: Guys remember that you are posting in an international forum and it's better to double check for your self respect and esteem before making a post.

[WhatDHell]

May I as a British citizen intrude on this thread?

My family and I have decades of service to India; we gave you democracy; we gave you a common language; we gave you a legal system; we gave you a solid civil service; we gave you a world class railway system; we gave you industryand agriculture base. In return we gained mutual respect; we gained the best of polite behaviour based on personal respect; we accepted differnt cultures.

Now I'm normally not easily riled by differing views or abrasive, rude comnents, but your comnent drips arrigance. And to make it worse, you thinly veil it by appearing to be fair abd concerned! That takes your post from plain arrogant to contemptuous.

Take your head out of your arse. You, and your parasitical family, gave nothing to India. You created a nation of poor, uneducated, impoverished people by systematically eroding the value system of the people, exploiting its weaknesses. And you want to know what happenened!?

Do everybody a favor, and don't share your concerns or advice.

[MusicalToM]

I might will be going to BKK / Pattaya in next Feb / March. Will definitely try to make them (with whom I'll come in contact) fell that "Not all Indians are the same. And who behaves good should be treated equally."

This thread is really helpful for better planning.

Keep it coming fellow mongers.

Will come back with questions if any I get.

Regards,

Fellow monger.

[Vivek]

Hi Friends,

Carrying Passport and all cash / Credit Cards may not not be safe in Pattaya Massage Parlors and streets. Is it safe to keep them in Hotel's Safe Lockers? Most hotels have safety lockers in each room or in reception?

[Scorchin]

May I as a British citizen intrude on this thread?

My family and I have decades of service to India; we gave you democracy; we gave you a common language; we gave you a legal system; we gave you a solid civil service; we gave you a world class railway system; we gave you industryand agriculture base. In return we gained mutual respect; we gained the best of polite behaviour based on personal respect; we accepted differnt cultures.

What has happened? Why now does India export the worst of its citizens to Thailand as tourists?. In fairness there are some Indians (generally couples) who are scrupulously polite?

But to what I can only call "gangs of brash pushy Indian males," who show little or no respect for the Thais or the Thai culture, are a bad, very bad for the country I love. They are not living in the crowds of Howrah sation or the suburban railways on Mumbai but in a modern civilised country with it a different less frenetic culture.

Maybe Indian women are subservient. But then in Thailand women dominate (unobtrusively) business and commerce. Thais do not respect loud mouthed Indians describing in public their likes and dislikes of the country. Nor of personal remarks about their women.

Indians, cool it and respect the Thais.

[IAmRamesh86]

I have traveled like 8 times in the past 5 years am so sorry to tell you Indians are hated everywhere in Thailand! Blame our-self for it we get drunk and behave bad! Most of our Indian brothers are not taught to respect a women!! Around 5 years ago when I was in my early 20's I visited Thailand with a friend for a week in BKK and Pattaya you won't believe this I literally cried the second day of my trip because we were hated by most Thai people (we were not dressed well) especially in Pattaya especially when we go shopping and clubbing we were denied entry in most club girls walk away when you tell them that your from India am talking about the regular girls not the pros! Mixx club in walking street never let you inside if they find out if your an Indian we never knew about all this when we first visited Thailand!! Even in the airport visa on arrival section is filled with smelly Indians Thai officers the lady especially are so rude and yell at us for no reason!! Top it all.

In agoda.com they are few good budget hotels in Pattaya and Bangkok where you can't book online if you have an Indian passport! Yes I ain't lying about this you can check out yourself.

1. Get visa from India that's the first thing you should do if your planing to visit Thailand.

2. Travel solo never travel with your friends Thailand is so safe I lost my purse, my passport, my sunglasses I got everything back thanks to kind Thai people, they are very loving and affectionate.

3. Get your best clothes, dress up as if your going for work, wear your best shoes, especially if you go to Mixx Club) smell good invest on a good perfume, buy branded beach wear, if your planing to go to the coral island in Pattaya, smile at everyone, don't stare at girls on BTS Bangkok and comment about their booty most Thai people understand English, I have seen so many Indians doing that, only Chinese and Indians are so loud when they speak be polite to everyone.

4. Carry dollars from India get enough money at least 100 $ a day for food travel, girls if your planing to visit sopies in BKK its 2000 BHT (100 $= 3500) BHT if you pick up any pros from Pattaya above avg looking ones are 2000 bht to 3500 BHT for full night and the Russians are 3000 bht onward!!If your picking up a regular girl from a bar the entry fee is nil in Mixx Club but cost cost 300 to 500 BHT in BKK and beer cost around 200 BHT so buying a drink for the girl it depends upon what drink she like!!

5. Avoid falang food eat Thai food its so much cheap and tastier!! Find a falang friend if your into picking up girls like me it will be so much easier.

6. Carry a phone with internet connection with google translate in it most regular girls speak very little English.

7. Avoid Indian groups and don't make friends with anyone travel solo, google map is you best friend and google search is your best guide you don't need anyone.

8. Avoid telling your from India, I usually tell them am from Dubai as I speak decent Arab and I have a fair skin then your good to go!!If you follow all these you will be happy in Thailand! Only issues is with the hunk falangs they are a big competition if your into picking up regular girls! But they are so cool to hang out with all the best! Thailand is an amazing country I love their king I love the Thai girls I love everything about Thailand I'm in love with Thailand! Thai people are the best people I ever know!! I hope you have a nice trip and have fun in Thailand!

All the best happy mongering!!

Kanpunkap

[ChoduMadan]

I have traveled to Bangkok and Pattaya several times and I have experienced at times in some places that Indians are not welcome I do get access to this places as I have a local friend with me and then its all fine, on talking I have been told that a lot of time Indians when travelling in ground misbehave and act very rude funny and mischievous, All Indians travelling to Thailand must know that Thai people are the most gentle, polite, friendly, and Honest people anywhere on earth, Also note that prostitution in every city in the world I am a world traveler and there is hardly any country in which I feel that there is no prostitution even in some gulf countries, I think Bangkok is one place where it is more open friendly and on top it very safe and with no fear of being totally ripped off. So I personally would say to all fellow citizens who visit Thailand that understand the country respect the people especially the nice girls who come with you and meet you and please do not spoil the name of the nation.

[ChoduMadan]

Hi.

Been to Bangkok, Pattaya, Phuket several times, Yes, its true that some places in Bangkok and Pattaya mainly BJ Bars and some fetish areas are fussy about letting Indian Visitors in. Some places will mind group of young Indian guys also, but over all in major places no issues. If you are travelling for sex any place Bangkok or Pattaya will get you as much as girls that you can handle, both the places have all possible age type and style of women that you could think of. Please express on what exactly you are looking for. If its just sex you could either call any massage place or escort place and call a girls / girls at your hotel. If you like mongering then there is Nana Plaza, Soi Cowboy and Patpong just take a cab be there and move around you will see what's in there, you can get a girl barfine and get her to your hotel. You can go to several fish bowl places or Oileies at Sukhumvit Soi 24 and get a leisurely time with one of the girls, alternatively you can go to some free lance places at Thermae, Grace, Nana Disco etc. To fetch free lance girls, If there is some special things you are looking for PM me and it will advice you on where to go for what.

Hi Friends,

I know that Location wise, this may not be the right forum for asking these questions. But wanted to Know from a Mumbai / Indian Resident. And this info will be useful to many mumbaikars as expenses for Hotel and girls in Bangkok are almost same as Mumbai. I am planning a Sex Tour in Bangkok for about 4-5 days. I will be travelling alone and for the first time. So wanted to know experience of other Indians. I read in many forums that many Go-Go bars and nightclubs in Bangkok do not treat Indians well and there are many incidents of cheating / theft. Is there any tour from India which is especially for Bachelors. ?. I found one "Bangkok Hangover tour" that operates locally in Bangkok and they take you to all best nightclubs in a single night. They have a web-site. For sex tourist, is Bangkok any different from Pattaya and Phuket? Necessary to travel all 3 places? Which is the best / safest place for sex tourist?. Bangkok? Pattaya? Or Phuket? Which is best hotel in which I can walk to Red Light District. I heard Nana Hotel in Bangkok is next to Nana Plaza and Soi Cowboy Street. Thanks in Advance.

Vivek.

[Vivek]

Thanks to All who responded with lots of Info. This thread rocks. Will Share my Experience. Cheers. .