Tips and techniques for sexually arousing women and making them orgasm

[Syzygies]

LOL. Which means guys like me, I might include Syzygies and a few others (but I happily leave it to them to object and counter), are truly living in a different world from the vast majority of punters out there and, likely, many if not most of the posters on these boards. That world can turn on its head and become something totally different from what all the field reports on this or that venue, this or that girl suggested prior to our interacting with them well within, yeah, the first 2 minutes of physical encounter. LOL. Something interesting to consider I'd say.

Ha ha. You crack me up. Never been know known to pop within 2 minutes except the very first time I went with a hooker at age 18. There was one other time over 10 years ago a hooker made me pop within 15 mins in doggy and I was shocked (never happened again). Unfortunately some of us do suffer from the reverse problem of having an insensitive dick, and taking a very long time and a lot of concentration to actually cum. Drinking alcohol is a no-no as only makes the dick less sensitive. I do well understand why guys want BBFS, when they have a very insensitive dick. Guys with overly sensitive dick need to drink alcohol first as a dampener and use a very thick condom to dull the sensitivity. LOL I recently let an MP girl use her own condom not realising it was el-cheapo super thick one and it killed my fuck sensation completely resulting in a poor session. Dick could not stay up so long with this desensitizing sleave on.

All these guys are asking me about 2 and 3 pops, and I thinking I am very happy to get just one pop in a 90 min session.

It is possible for us to meet girls who like an extended fuck, but they may be limited. My GF can pop within 2 to 3 minutes, so we are not very compatible. Miss super sensitive with Mr. Non-sensitive. There is no challenge at all to make my GF cum. It's so easy. Ha ha. I would be much better off with a girl who needs the slow 30 min build-up. My GF does not even like my dick size. Fortunately my Gik does like it, and she says that is the only reason she takes me, since she normally prefers muscle-men with 6-packs. LOL.

Although Dan trains us all up on girl wanking techniques with the hand, I am a very orally oriented guy, so I find that with a lot of experience and training, I can make most girls cum from DATY, but not all. I do have regular girls that are very difficult to cum, and only get there sometimes, some do not bullshit and don't bother to pretend, and have had others that just don't want to cum for fear of getting lazy or not being in the mood.

I recently acted as a sex consultant for a waitress girl whose guy (a Frenchie) was coming too quick and then sagging and leaving her unsatisfied. She had never had a cum with him. Her sex buddy is probably vastly younger than me, maybe 30 YO. I did not meet him. She wanted to be able to ride him cowgirl without his dick sagging so quickly. The simple effective and most obvious solution was for her to organise for him to have a dose of Viagra (or generic) so his dick would stay up while she rode him. I also suggested that she needed to train him in DATY or hand wanking technique. I know I was not that good at DATY when young. She later reported the advice showed successful results without being too explicit. The girl and I regularly chat to exchange knowledge of English and Thai language.

[Dan7373]

.... So, imo, it is reasonable to conclude the vast majority of customers these girls encounter are 2-Minute Men. And it is also reasonable to conclude from there that many Thai P4P women have no idea what to do with a man who isn't going to easily pop within 2 minutes without a condom or perhaps 3-4 minutes wearing a condom no matter how godawful they are at their job because they almost never have to know what to do with such a man....

I don't think it's that simple for 2-minute-men and P4P ladies. Because a 2-minute-man isn't always a 2-minute-man.

I can say from my own experience that cumming prematurely with the lady leaves me so unsatisfied that I want to go back inside for another ride. And if I manage to get that second ride with the lady, then I'm more like a 10-minute-man with her, rather than a 2-minute. And if the lady lets me have a 3rd ride with her, then I can basically last with her as much as I want. At this point, I don't care about cumming anymore. I just enjoy nailing the chick with my dick and playing her clit with my hand to make it pleasant for her.

Being inside the lady's pussy with your cock and having a lot of body-to-body contact with her is a pleasant experience in itself for a guy. It's something to enjoy with the lady, after you blow off your cum.

You can just bang the lady once in a while to maintain your erection inside her, and give it a rest in between. This way you can last with the lady for a very long time. Perhaps this is how some guys manage to last 2 hours or more with their lady. These guys don't just pound their lady all the time. They bang their lady just enough to maintain their erection inside her, so that they can enjoy their intimacy with her for a long time.

Of course, getting that 2nd or 3rd ride with the lady can be a problem even with P4P ladies. Not every lady will let you take her like that.

But there are ways for a 2-minute-guy to get around the lady's one-shot restriction.

You can masturbate your dick, before you go to nail the chick. If you've already had your two cumshots, before you go to see the lady, then you might have some trouble getting it up with her, but if she is good with her mouth on your cock, then she'll get you up and going anyway. And once you are up and going, then you can just penetrate the chick with your dick and do it the long way with her. And it's not like you are pounding the lady raw. You are just maintaining your erection inside her. If the lady is nice, then she will let you stay inside her for your long, intimate ride with her.

A more expensive way of doing it would be to see 2 or 3 ladies on the same day. By the time you are with your 3rd lady, then you just want to rest your big cock inside her pussy, bang her once in a while to maintain your erection, and enjoy your intimacy with her.

And of course, there is a third way, which I've described in my earlier post. Use desensitizing spray on your cock to make yourself last longer with the lady. But this third option really makes a stud out of you. Because you still feel the urge to cum.

In this situation, you really end up pounding the hot chick with your dick like you mean it. And that's why you need to watch the lady and make sure she is well-lubricated and comfortable with you. Pounding the hot lady like an insatiable porn-stud is also a pretty good experience for a guy to have. But you don't want to injure the lady, while you are at it with her. That's why you need to be careful, when you take a lady like that.

[EihTooms]

Unfortunately, lasting only 2 minutes with the hot lady has often been my experience too. And it's that really hot chick, who gives you only one chance with your dick. You cum, and you are done.

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I would also think that, human nature being what it is, we can safely assume the 45% of respondents admitting to being 2-Minute Men is lower than it actually is. By how much, no one can know. But I wouldn't be surprised if we could add another 5-10 percentage points to that surveyed number and be closer to reality. And let's factor in something else with regard to this issue as it pertains to Thai or any P4P scene around the world; I would think it natural for an even greater percentage of men for whom 2 minutes is stretching it to be interested in partaking of this P4P hobby in the first place. After all, they would take what is generally considered a liability among the non P4P women who are not on a payroll time clock in their own country and turning it into a technical advantage or at least no longer a problem at all with a P4P girl in Soi Cowboy or Nana Plaza.

So, imo, it is reasonable to conclude the vast majority of customers these girls encounter are 2-Minute Men. And it is also reasonable to conclude from there that many Thai P4P women have no idea what to do with a man who isn't going to easily pop within 2 minutes without a condom or perhaps 3-4 minutes wearing a condom no matter how godawful they are at their job because they almost never have to know what to do with such a man.

LOL. Which means guys like me, I might include Syzygies and a few others (but I happily leave it to them to object and counter), are truly living in a different world from the vast majority of punters out there and, likely, many if not most of the posters on these boards. That world can turn on its head and become something totally different from what all the field reports on this or that venue, this or that girl suggested prior to our interacting with them well within, yeah, the first 2 minutes of physical encounter. LOL. Something interesting to consider I'd say.

[Dan7373]

...I only wish I had to figure out ways to keep myself from cumming within 2 minutes of entering a woman these days, welcomed wearing a condom as at least one way to prolong the pleasure and delay cumming rather than utterly thwart any sexual pleasure experience and could count on doubling my finishes within a typical 90 minute to 2 hour ST session as long as it was agreeable to the provider.

Unfortunately, lasting only 2 minutes with the hot lady has often been my experience too. And it's that really hot chick, who gives you only one chance with your dick. You cum, and you are done.

Which is actually a risky way for a lady to behave with a guy. Because I cum quietly, and I don't lose my erection, after I cum. I can just slow down with the lady a little for a minute or two and then start pounding her again with a condom full of cum. The lady has no way of knowing that I've already cum inside her. And when I finally pull out after my second or third cumshot with her, then she has no way of knowing if all that cum is from one cumshot or two or three.

I don't do this kind of stuff. I always pull out, after I cum. But I can see how tempting it can be for a guy to keep riding the chick with his dick, even after he cums. Some guys probably do it this way with one-shot ladies. And that's why I say that giving the guy only one cumshot is a risky way for a lady to behave. The lady is better off telling the guy that he can have that second or third cumshot with her, if he wants it. Because this way she can be sure that the guy will pull out and change his condoms with her, rather than just keep banging her with a condom full of cum for his second or third cumshot with her.

But in any case, I think that using desensitizing spray is a good way to overcome your short-cumming and give the hot lady a good cock-slamming. Doggy position is what I'm talking about here. You can pound the hot lady hard enough to make loud slapping sounds with your hips on her ass-cheeks. Your cock goes balls-deep inside her pussy every time. And you can really entertain the lady, if you make those slapping sounds with your hips on her ass-cheeks as loud as you can.

The lady can't see how you are nailing her. But when she hears those loud slapping sounds of your hard hips slamming her soft ass-cheeks, then she knows for sure that she is really getting nailed. And that's what makes it hot for her.

Of course, taking the hot lady like a porn-stud isn't just all fun and games. Real porn-studs in real porn-films give the hot lady a safe word that she can yell and bring it all to a sudden stop. More lube. Give her some rest. And then go back to pounding her some more. This prevents injury for the lady and makes it good for both of you.

Good communication during penetration is a must, when you've desensitized your dick and can really nail the hot chick.

[EihTooms]

Not lasting long enough with the lady is a common frustration for guys. According to one author, 45% of men cum within 2 minutes of penetrating the chick with their dick. A porn-stud experience this certainly is not.

https://newrepublic.com/article/1174...x-who-bothered

Well, that certainly helps to explain the Field Reports on these sites where the guy is very, very concerned about getting multiple pops for his ST fee, is already holding back from cumming while the girl is blowing him in the shower, finishes pop number 1 within 5 minutes of bedding down with the lady and can't understand why anyone would balk at wearing a condom. Not denigrating anyone with that characteristic. But not everyone is built that way. I envy them in a P4 P paradise like we have in Thailand. I only wish I had to figure out ways to keep myself from cumming within 2 minutes of entering a woman these days, welcomed wearing a condom as at least one way to prolong the pleasure and delay cumming rather than utterly thwart any sexual pleasure experience and could count on doubling my finishes within a typical 90 minute to 2 hour ST session as long as it was agreeable to the provider.

[Dan7373]

Not lasting long enough with the lady is a common frustration for guys. According to one author, 45% of men cum within 2 minutes of penetrating the chick with their dick. A porn-stud experience this certainly is not.

https://newrepublic.com/article/1174...x-who-bothered

I don't know about you, but my ideal is that of a good porn-scene. A porn-stud experience is what I'm talking about here. Which means lasting with the lady for a good half-hour or more. Taking her in multiple positions. And really pounding her.

Apparently, there are various desensitizing sprays, lubricants, and even condoms that can make you last for a long time with the lady. And it's not just a gimmick. I've read their descriptions and reviews on Amazon.com. And apparently, these desensitizing products work for most guys.

Most reviews don't say how long the guy got to last with his lady. But some reviewers mentioned lasting 30-40 minutes with the lady every time. One guy even said that he lasted 2 hours with his lady. But some reviewers also said that it didn't work for them. You can look up these products and their reviews, if you search for 'desensitizing spray' at amazon.com.

https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=sr_nr_n...3&rnid=3760931

The thing about these products is that they don't work right away. You need to apply them to your cock some time before you ride the lady. Or else it will not work. Perhaps this is the reason why some reviewers said that it didn't work for them. They didn't wait long enough after spraying their cock. And the amount of the product you use also makes a difference. Some guys need more of it and some less. But if you want to last with the lady for a really long time, then you definitely need to use more of it, rather than less.

I didn't know about these products before. They are a recent discovery for me. But I'm happy to say that now one of this products has helped me to go from my porn-stud fantasy to actually doing it like that with a lady.

The only thing I need to make sure is that the lady is well-lubricated and ready. The lube can dry out during a long about. You definitely need to add some more lube once in a while and perhaps add some warm water too to make the lube more slippery.

[Dan7373]

Going after the new hot chick with your dick, soon after you meet her, sounds pretty good for a guy. This is a major attraction of P4P action. You don't need to wait, before you penetrate.

But doing it with a total stranger like this can also have its drawbacks. The hot lady isn't yet your favorite fuck-buddy. You don't yet feel that special connection with her.

But there is a quick way to get that special connection going with the lady right away. You basically need to take the lady's hand and hold hands with her, while you are nailing her.

Romantic partners often hold hands together, when they go for walk. This makes them feel a special connection with each other. And it also works like this, when you go for a walk with your cock inside the lady's pussy.

Holding hands with the lady makes you feel like she is your favorite fuck-buddy and not just some stranger. You feel that special connection with her. Which makes your experience more enjoyable with her.

This kind of thing is extremely rare to see in porn. But I found one example:

https://www.pornhub.com/embedgif/12784481

[Dan7373]

Most porn films have always shown mostly one-way type of sex action. Either the guy or the lady is doing something, but not both at the same time. And quite often it's the guy who gets most of the pleasure. While the lady just accommodates the guy, without getting much pleasure herself.

But there are always exceptions. And I found one GIF clip that shows the lady doing oral on the guy, while he plays her pussy and clit at the same time.

You don't often see this in porn. And perhaps it's unusual for people to do it this way in real life too. But I think this kind of mutual pleasure gets both the guy and the lady equally aroused and ready for each other. It leads to a better experience for both.

https://www.pornhub.com/embedgif/12753481

[Dan7373]

I found a good article about women's orgasm and what guys can do to make it better for women. It's written by female medical doctor. Here is a quote from it:

There are many women who can reach orgasm by clitoral stimulation, but don't think they are normal because they can't have an orgasm with penetration. They feel that there is something wrong with them because, unless they can find a position where they can rub their clitoris against their partners body, they can't reach orgasm. And there are plenty of men too, it seems, that want to know what is wrong. Why isn't their partner having an orgasm when they have intercourse? Is there something wrong with her? Is there something he is doing wrong, or something different he needs to do? The reality is, there is nothing wrong and she is probably perfectly normal. ....

http://www.thesexmd.com/how-women-orgasm/

Basically, a lot of men think that orgasm has to come from sexual intercourse for women, just like it does for men. Which is a bit ridiculous, if you think about it. Why would women be the same as men in this?

Women obviously have different sexual anatomy. Which means that the mechanics of orgasm works in a different way for them. That's why you need to learn how to do it for women.

Just knowing how it works for you and how to make it pleasant for you doesn't tell you much about how it works for women and how to make it pleasant for them. You can be very knowledgeable about yourself and ignorant about women at the same time. And I can see a lot of this in porn. Because men usually get a lot of foreplay from their women, but there isn't much foreplay the other way.

[Dan7373]

A lot of websites, that give advice for cocky guys, tell you that you shouldn't touch the woman's clitoris directly. Because the woman's clitoris is too sensitive. And you can make it uncomfortable for her.

But I think this advice is misleading. And it's misleading because of what it doesn't say, rather than because of what it says.

It doesn't say that the woman's clitoris is normally covered with a foreskin. And when you touch her there, then you aren't touching her clitoris directly. You are touching it through her foreskin. Which feels pleasant for her. Because this is indirect contact, rather than direct.

I found a short GIF video that shows you this point. It shows you that the woman's clitoris is normally covered up with her foreskin. And her clitoris gets exposed for direct contact only when you pull on her pussy-lips in a certain way.

https://dl.phncdn.com/pics/gifs/011/...)11969441a.mp4

This is the reason why you can just start massaging the lady's pussy with a well-lubricated hand and make it very pleasant for her.

That advice about making direct contact with the lady's clitoris is technically correct. But it's highly misleading. Because it leaves you with a false impression that you should avoid touching the lady's pussy completely and just bang her with your cock, or perform oral sex on her. This isn't true, and the short video clip above illustrates this point.

[Dan7373]

I was a little shocked at all the negative results my Google search brought up, when I tried to find out more about sexual touching.

The words and the phrases that my search brought up included: 'Criminal Law', 'Offences', and 'Sexual Assault'.

It was all threatening and negative on first page that came up. And even on the following pages of my search results, vast majority of links were very negative about it.

It's hard for me to imagine having sex, without sexual touching. And it's something you definitely need for good foreplay.

These negative search results made me realize once more, why P4P sex with ladies is something to love and celebrate, rather than look down upon.

P4P type of situation is one of very few places where you can feel safe and secure about touching the lady and having sex with her. Regular dating and romance is a social minefield, where any kind of sexual touching can get you into a lot of trouble. You really need to watch it. And even then there is no guarantee that you won't get into trouble.

Here is an example of what I'm talking about:

http://watchdog.org/286540/male-stud...-for-touching/

The thing about P4P type of situation is that the consent and the rules are very clear for both the lady and the guy. Which makes them both feel safe and secure with each other in terms of sexual touching and sex.

Grabbing the lady's tit or reaching out and masturbating her clit isn't sexual assault in this situation. It's just normal foreplay. The lady might not like it and tell you to stop. But even then she won't accuse you of sexual assault. You are free to go and find some other P4P lady who might like this kind of stuff more.

The only thing about growing up in a society that criminalizes sexual touching and P4P sex is that you learn to feel unsafe about any kind of sexual touching in any kind of situation. Consensual P4P sex is a crime in many of the same societies that criminalize sexual touching in other circumstances too. Which literally leaves you no situation or place, where you can feel safe about touching the lady sexually.

When you come from a society like this to Thailand and end up with P4P ladies who are perfectly okay with you touching them sexually, then you might still have a lot of mental barriers and inhibitions, which will stop you from doing that. This certainly was the case with me, when I first came to Thailand.

It took me a while to learn to touch women sexually and feel safe about it. And from my own experience I can say that the only way overcome your mental inhibitions and prohibitions against touching hot P4P ladies is to go out and do it. The more you do it, the more comfortable you become with it.

But the funny thing about my becoming comfortable with sexual touching is that I go back to my old self, when I go back to my country. My comfort is very specific and very selective. I only feel comfortable with Thai P4P ladies and not with any other ladies. Which is probably a good thing. Or else, I might get into a lot of trouble, when I go back to my country.

[Dan7373]

The thing I like about doing it with P4P ladies is that most of them are pretty good about you sexually touching and groping them. You just need to do it in private, make it pleasant for her, and don't embarrass her.

And I found from my experience that doing it spontaneously, as a kind of surprise, makes it hotter for the lady and for myself. And for this reason, one finger inside the lady's slit to masturbate her clit is my favorite thing to do.

It's something you can do spontaneously, either from the front or from behind, when the lady is standing with you or just going about her business with you. This is one type of clit masturbation that doesn't require any special position or preparation. You can always fit your finger inside the lady's slit, as long as you can reach her.

And here are examples of a hot ladies masturbating themselves like that:

https://dl.phncdn.com/pics/gifs/011/...)11870361a.mp4

https://dl.phncdn.com/pics/gifs/011/...)11870801a.mp4

https://dl.phncdn.com/pics/gifs/000/...1/750081a.webm

https://dl.phncdn.com/pics/gifs/000/...1/873241a.webm

These examples were actually pretty hard for me to find. Most post masturbation porn shows ladies spreading their legs and lying back. This is probably because porn is made for show, and not just for enjoyment. You can see more, when the lady spreads her legs.

But in real life, I found that one finger inside the lady's slit to masturbate her clit is the most practical and most enjoyable way of doing it. Because you can be very spontaneous with the lady, while she is just standing with you. I once even did it with a lady who deliberately squeezed her legs as close together as she could, while I kept masturbating her slit with one finger in it. She eventually orgasmed like this.

Some ladies find it more arousing when they feel some tightness inside. And these are the ladies who might enjoy squeezing their legs together, while you masturbate their slit and clit with one finger on it.

Some women even say that they need to squeeze their legs together and tense their body to be able to orgasm. Here is a YouTube video about it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWkUKGgK1Cs

[Dan7373]

I think it's a common experience for guys to feel that their encounter with the hot lady didn't last long enough.

I've certainly felt this way on more than one occasion. And it's not just me. In one survey from 2007, 80% of both men and women wanted their sex to last half-an hour. Which was a lot longer, than their actual experience.

https://www.thecut.com/2015/09/how-l...ally-last.html

Half an hour is how long a typical porn-scene lasts. Sometimes it last longer than this. But 30 to 40 minutes is probably most common. And it includes foreplay, which can be anywhere between 5 and 15 minutes.

I've actually looked at timed screen-shots of several popular porn-movies to see how they did it. And I was a little surprised by what I saw.

In a typical porn scene, the guy took his lady in 5 or 6 different sex-positions. And he banged her pretty hard each time. But according to the time recorded on the screenshots, each hard banging lasted 3 or 4 minutes at first. And later in the scene, 1 or 2-minute banging was common too. The rest of the time, it's either preparation for penetration in some new sex-position, or just oral sex.

When you watch a porn movie normally, then its seems like continuous sex. But this is just an illusion. The guy actually takes frequent breaks. And that's what enables him to last for so long. There is nothing superhuman about it. Any guy can do it, if he watches himself and withdraws from the lady, before it's too late.

I've compared amateur porn movies with those professionally made. And I found one big difference between them is that amateurs go through fewer sex-positions. And their sex lasts longer in each position. Which means that they have less variety and more sameness. And the guy is typically slower and milder with the lady. Because staying inside the lady longer, means that he needs to slow down. Or else, he'll cum prematurely.

Having less variety, even when you do it for just as long, is actually bad for your memory of your experience. Because according to neuroscientists who did research in this matter, our memories seem shorter in time, when our experience has less variety. And our memories seem longer in time, when our experience has more variety. There is actually a pretty good talk about it on youtube at the link below:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqwJHasGT9w

And this research means that if you want to have a good memory of your experience, instead of just enjoying it at the moment and then having some regrets about it later on, then you should do it the way professional porn-scenes are made. Take the lady in many different sex-positions. And bang her hard but only for short periods of time. Having a lot of variety and many penetrations is enjoyable not only at the moment, but it also makes for an ideal memory to recall and enjoy later on.

Your memory lasts a lot longer than your actual experience with the lady. And that's why it's important to do it in a way that makes you remember it in a good way, rather than just do it for your enjoyment at the moment.

There is a reason why professionally-made porn-scenes are addictive. They are especially designed to produce a good memory for you by showing you a lot of variety. And it's your good memory of it that makes you come back to watch some more porn.

I think it's a good idea to have some sex-positions pictures on your smart-phone to show to your Thai lady and get her to do multiple sex-positions with you. It can be pretty hard to explain to the lady what you want. But showing her the picture explains it all. And I found a good website where you can save a lot of such pictures on your phone, before you go to see your Thai lady:

http://sexpositions.club/

[Dan7373]

One woman says that women and men are different in how they get sexually aroused:

For a lot of women, desire doesn't necessarily precede arousal. We need to be touched, caressed, and loved in order to crave sex. So instead of whining about how horny you are and how unlikely it seems that you'll get laid that night because we are a bit mopey or whatever, sneak up behind us and start rubbing our shoulders and work your way down to our waist, or go in for a boob grab. The key is physical contact, so touch us!

http://thoughtcatalog.com/melanie-be...-from-a-woman/

I found from my own experience with Thai P4P ladies that the above quote is very true for them too.

The lady I go with to the private room is almost never panting for me, the way I'm panting for her. She isn't yet in the mood, even while I want to do her good.

Some guys take their lady's lack of arousal as evidence that they don't mean anything to her. They think it's just a way for her to make money. They are disappointed by this. But they don't think they can do anything about this. And that's why they look for younger, inexperienced ladies, who haven't yet been with too many guys.

But I think this explanation is wrong. This isn't just fate that you need to accept and move on. There is something you can do about it to make it better for yourself and the lady.

I haven't yet met a lady, whom I couldn't arouse with a well-lubricated pussy and clit massage. Masturbating the hot lady is what I'm talking about here. And this kind of thing works for arousing the lady, no matter how experienced she is.

It's like you might've been masturbating all of your life. But just because you've masturbated many times before doesn't mean that your masturbation becomes ineffective. It still works every time. And that's how it is for experienced ladies, who have been with many guys before.

The women's lack of arousal at first has nothing to do with how many guys they've been with before. Because this is the way it works for most women, regardless of how experienced or inexperienced they are.

It's true that younger, inexperienced women are often feeling a little anxious. And some guys think this is arousal. And it is an arousal of emotions. But this isn't sexual arousal. This is just plain anxiety and nothing else.

I think it's a mistake to take your lady's initial lack of arousal as something disappointing and something that cannot be changed. Because this kind of thinking leads to a self-fulfilling prophecy. When you don't believe that you can arouse your lady, then you don't try much to arouse her. And without your foreplay to get her on the way, she indeed stays unaroused with you for the rest of her session with you.

You make your belief come true by behaving according to your belief. And you can't possibly find out your mistake, until you behave inconsistently with your belief and do something different. And even then you might see the result as a fluke and dismiss it, instead or learning from it and changing your behavior permanently. That's why it can be so hard to learn something different and change your behavior with women, even when you belief about women is wrong.

It's a circular trap where your wrong belief and your behavior according to your belief re-enforce each other and provide evidence for each other. Which makes your wrong belief seem to you like a universal truth. Because it happens like this for you every time, and you have plenty of personal experience to back it up too.

I can say from my own experience with very experienced Thai P4P ladies that there is no such thing as the lady being too experienced to get aroused with you. Masturbating her pussy with a well-lubricated hand works every time, no matter how experienced the lady is. Which isn't surprising. Because that's how the human body normally works. Exercising your bodily functions actually maintains them in good shape, rather than destroys them and makes them ineffective. Your masturbation work well, even though you might have been with many ladies and have masturbated many times before. And that's how it is for masturbating experienced P4P ladies. It works for them too, no matter how experienced they are.

The only thing that's different between women and guys is how they get aroused. Guys get aroused by looking at ladies and fantasizing about them. While women need sexual touching and foreplay to get them on the way.

That's why I think that the first thing to do, when a hot lady goes with you, is to masturbate her pussy and clit with a well-lubricated hand, until she is in a similar state of sexual arousal to the one you feel with her. Bringing the hot lady up to speed is what I call it.

And that's the way to avoid feeling disappointed with the hot lady, when she obviously doesn't look aroused with you. Instead of seeing it as some kind of a failure. You can look at it as an opportunity to masturbate the hot chick and get her ready for your dick.

One thing about the above quote from the lady instructing guys I would cation you is that grabbing your lady's boobs isn't necessarily a good way to arouse her. Because I found from my experience that even though this works for some ladies, for other ladies this can be a turn-off. The thing that works every time with virtually every lady is going after her pussy and clit and masturbating it. The lady's boobs should come second, while you are already masturbating her pussy and clit with one hand.

I found that some ladies don't enjoy it and don't like it, when you just start grabbing and sucking their tits. But these same ladies enjoy tit-grabbing and tit-sucking, if you do it, while you masturbate her pussy and clit with your hand at the same time. And that's the way to go after the hot lady, who doesn't like to have her boobs touched. In combination with pussy masturbation, such a lady is usually more than okay with tit foreplay.

[Dan7373]

I have used this position at times since I can remember, if the lady showed a preference for it. I never had a special name for it.

Sliding is still going just fine, but a bit more friction than normal. I guess that means we are well lubed. Never just pushing and pulling for me.....

I suppose it all depends on several things. How well lubricated the lady is. How tight her pussy is. And how thick your cock is too.

You can get either anchored inside the lady's pussy and end up pushing and pulling on her pussy, instead of sliding in and out of her. Or it can just make the lady more tight for the ride, without you getting anchored inside her.

I used this position with Thai ladies who complained that my cock was too big for them. These ladies were tight to begin with, when I entered their pussy. And I made them even more tight by bringing their legs close together. Which made my ride so tight, that I couldn't slide in and out of the lady. I could only push and pull on her pussy with my cock firmly anchored inside her. And that's what made it so pleasant for the lady. She had no friction at all. Her sensation came from her pussy stretching, when I tried to pull out of her. And her sensation also came from me pressing on her pussy with my cock, when I tried to push deeper inside her.

I couldn't slide in and out of her. But I was certainly moving her pussy around with my cock. And that's what made it so pleasant for her.

This position can be used to solve too different kinds of problems:

If the lady is too lose for you. Then you can make her more tight by bringing her legs close together.

And if the lady complains that you are too big for her. Then bringing her legs close together and making her even more tight for the ride might be the thing to do. Because this anchors you inside her pussy and makes it more pleasant for her.

But it's not just about finding one good technique with the lady and using it all the time. Because even a good technique can get boring after a while, if you do the lady the same way for some time.

I think it's also important to vary your cock thrusts between shallow and deep in a way that the lady can't always predict. You still need some regular rhythm. But you need to vary it in a way that she can't always predict. Because this surprises the lady and keeps her attention focused on your ride with her.

It's easy for the lady to tune out and start daydreaming about something else, when you do her the same way all the time. But if you keep it a little unpredictable for her and surprise her with your cock once in a while, then this keeps her attention focused on your ride with her. Which makes it hotter for both you and her.

Here is an example, where the guy maintains a good rhythm, but he also varies it between a series of slower, balls-deep thrusts with the lady and a series of faster, shallower thrusts.

https://dl.phncdn.com/pics/gifs/007/.../7401061a.webm

Doing the hot lady this way is actually an advice for cocky guys from a female sex-therapist:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBaprHhD6CA