SubCmdr's UTR's, Non-Pros (NP), and Sugar Babies (SB)

[Mr Enternational]

Actually carrot juice and garlic is recognized as a treatment for constipation, so not witchcraft.
So actually that chica knew her shit.

And there in lies the issue. The problem was not that I could not go, but that I could not stop going. So that would have just compounded the interest.

[Frannie]

LOL. I guess they are only trying to help but this witchcraft of remedies that they are privy to can go to hell. A couple of days ago I had stomach problems. The girl I brought to BQ's party told me to chop up fresh garlic and carrots together and eat it. (Hierve un diente de ajo con zanahoria rallada y tomate lo). Then a couple of hours later said did you do it? LOL. Hell no. I took my ass to a pharmacy.

Then I was out to eat because I thought my stomach was finally able to hold something. I sent her a picture of the fresh Thai chicken noodle soup that I was about to feast on and she said that looks horrible. I said you are Dominican. You don't know anything about food. All you know is carne y papas, pollo y arroz.

Then when I hurt my foot a few months ago they all wanted to tell me a remedy to make it better. Never mind that I have been going to a freakin podiatric surgeon twice a week for the past 3 months and they have had to cut out flesh and grow new meat and skin to rehab the area. But want me to try their outhouse remedy vs how many years of professional medical experience.

Don't listen to them island chicas no matter how kind you think they are trying to be. They will have you 6 feet under down there. Next patient, same treatment.

http://www.dibdabdoo.com/articles/di...stipation.html

Actually carrot juice and garlic is recognized as a treatment for constipation, so not witchcraft. Carrot juices contain certain oils that work on the mucus membranes of the stomach and colon. This helps with digestion and starts your bowels functioning properly. Carrots are high in fiber and beta-carotene, an antioxidant, which the body converts to vitamin A. Carrots can make your stools softer and larger. Garlic helps in stimulating intestinal movements (peristalsis).

So actually that chica knew her shit. And carrots and garlic are cheaper than anything in the pharmacy. Next time you see her ask if she has a herbal remedy from the vegetable section to replace Viagra.

[Mr Enternational]

Without a doubt you have failed to follow the Mr. Gogo school of chica management.

LOL. I guess they are only trying to help but this witchcraft of remedies that they are privy to can go to hell. A couple of days ago I had stomach problems. The girl I brought to BQ's party told me to chop up fresh garlic and carrots together and eat it. (Hierve un diente de ajo con zanahoria rallada y tomate lo). Then a couple of hours later said did you do it? LOL. Hell no. I took my ass to a pharmacy.

Then I was out to eat because I thought my stomach was finally able to hold something. I sent her a picture of the fresh Thai chicken noodle soup that I was about to feast on and she said that looks horrible. I said you are Dominican. You don't know anything about food. All you know is carne y papas, pollo y arroz.

Then when I hurt my foot a few months ago they all wanted to tell me a remedy to make it better. Never mind that I have been going to a freakin podiatric surgeon twice a week for the past 3 months and they have had to cut out flesh and grow new meat and skin to rehab the area. But want me to try their outhouse remedy vs how many years of professional medical experience.

Don't listen to them island chicas no matter how kind you think they are trying to be. They will have you 6 feet under down there. Next patient, same treatment.

[Frannie]

Without a doubt you have failed to follow the Mr. Gogo school of chica management. If I understand the Mr. Gogo school of chica management techniques correctly:

1. You should have questioned her intentions. 2. You shouldn't have drank her cough medicine that was not from a pharmacy. 3. After tasting it you should have spoken to her harshly for disrespecting your mouth, by preparing her ill tasting elixir and bringing it to you. 4. And you most certainly should not have given her a couple of hundred pesos. After all, how much did the chica have invested in her home-made remedy.

We are going to have send you back for remedial training. LOL.

My memory fails me a bit as this was about 5 years ago, but I believe it was one of the two chicas Jenny and Kathy mentioned by Tempoecorto just a couple of days ago on this board. At that time those two girls were renting a room in the same hotel as Tempoecorto and myself, sharing with a third girl and paying $400 per month for a somewhat crummy room. So they were kind of honorary mongers. They complained that it did not have a view of the pool and of course one bathroom could never be enough for three chicas to make themselves beautiful. They used to come up to my apartment which had a kitchen and use my stove to fix their meals and use my computer to communicate with their online "friends". All I got out of the deal was. Well, I forget, but whatever it was I enjoyed with all three of them, although never all three at one time. I now realize that they were disrespecting me by using my kitchen, but at the time it seemed like a good idea and it saved me having to go outside to get a girl..

[Frannie]

Of course I do!

I try not to laugh at the guys that come back-and-forth and think they are really know something about the Dominican Republic while they are passing through. You don't really know a place until you live there. I'm not just saying this about the DR. Same thing happened to me when I moved to Las Vegas. I have been going to Las Vegas since I was a kid with my parents. As I grew up and became an adult, I continued to go there. But it wasn't until I moved there that I really began to know Vegas. And if you think you know Vegas because you visit a lot. I can tell you for certain that you don't. Life as a resident there is very different. Same for the DR. But I'm really going to reference Santo Domingo. Because that's what I know. I'll stipulate to the fact that there are any number of people on the forum that know a lot more about other cities in the DR than I do.

Most of the guys in this forum are dealing with women who regularly fuck for money (not the women who consider themselves to be in the top tier of their society). The women who have jobs, goto university and have ambition to make something out of themselves. Most of guys on this forum don't know a damn thing about the Dominican Republic past how to pay to get into a woman's pants. And any thought that these women that are fucking them for money give a damn thing about them other than what they have in their wallet is self-delusion.

For those with the "Kia mentality" who are gnashing their teeth when they read my posts, rest assured. I'm not driving up the price for the street Chicas (girls), Casa girls and Dominican Cupid chicas that are looking for a foreign man to fund their life. I'm flying in FAA class A airspace. Most are unqualified to fly at my altitude. They strictly operate at lower altitudes. There is a level, the 10% of high quality mujers (women) that exist here, that most will never see nor would the woman pay a bit of attention to them because they lack of refinement, language skills and have the "Kia mentality".

When you tell one of your mujers (women), as I have before, that you are sick and they buy or prepare food for you, then call a taxi they have a relationship with and send the food to you in the taxi, well that's a whole another level of human interaction that most of guys in this Forum will ever understand as long as they castigate my methods and the way that I do things. I'm hanging with young women who are going to university and studying medicine, engineering, business, government. We are strolling through Agora mall. They are shopping. They have their own money. Not even interested in mine. They are just traveling in style with me. We are chilling out in the mall at Santo Domingo's having cafe (coffee). No different than any other modern city.

The way I operate would be considered being a sugar daddy in the United States. But I do it for a 10th of the price I would have to pay in the US. I'm offering insight into a different game. It's not for everybody but it works for me. I appreciate everyone's insight and I listen to them. But most of what I read simply is not representative of my experiences. And most are not interested in reading, understanding and appreciating my experiences.

I'm living like a motherfucking boss, like a 1%er. A lifestyle that I could never even get close to in the US for the same money and I'm enjoying every minute of it. So if that lifestyle requires me to pay over two times what someone else does ($3 at Rainbow verses $7 at Forever 21) for a dress so be it. Why do I buy my girls, computers, cellphones, name brand clothes, shoes and designer handbags? Because I motherfucking can! The girls that I bring into my life give me experiences impossible to pay for. They come to the table with way more than just pussy! I suited up to attend a military reception. One of my girls invited me to her families 24th gathering. One of her Aunt's was back from Spain to celebrate the event. She owns a house here and one in Spain. All of this has required time and investment of energy into developing real relationships with people. It requires Spanish skills and the perception that I have enough money to be in their class.

I understand the perspective here on the forum, but nobody here seems to be able, or has the desire to understand mine. I hope this gives you better insight into where I'm coming from when I post. I'm considering the possibility that maybe no one is really interested in what I'm doing. They are simply interested in advancing their views, inflating their egos and ridiculing others. Bragging about their conquests as if sticking their dick into women who regularly fuck for money requires game.

You want GFE. I don't believe you can pay for that. You have to give BFE. And remember that your vacation is my life each and every motherfucking day!

I had a chica make me some home-made cough medicine with honey, red wine, and god knows what else and it nearly killed me. But the fact that she went to the trouble of making the medicine and bringing it to me was very moving. It was a while ago and I think I gave her a few hundred pesos as a thank you gift. I now realize I was politically incorrect and I beg for the forgiveness of the board. Next time I would tell her to fuck off and drink it herself.

[SubCmdr]

Of course I do!

I try not to laugh at the guys that come back-and-forth and think they are really know something about the Dominican Republic while they are passing through. You don't really know a place until you live there. I'm not just saying this about the DR. Same thing happened to me when I moved to Las Vegas. I have been going to Las Vegas since I was a kid with my parents. As I grew up and became an adult, I continued to go there. But it wasn't until I moved there that I really began to know Vegas. And if you think you know Vegas because you visit a lot. I can tell you for certain that you don't. Life as a resident there is very different. Same for the DR. But I'm really going to reference Santo Domingo. Because that's what I know. I'll stipulate to the fact that there are any number of people on the forum that know a lot more about other cities in the DR than I do.

Most of the guys in this forum are dealing with women who regularly fuck for money (not the women who consider themselves to be in the top tier of their society). The women who have jobs, goto university and have ambition to make something out of themselves. Most of guys on this forum don't know a damn thing about the Dominican Republic past how to pay to get into a woman's pants. And any thought that these women that are fucking them for money give a damn thing about them other than what they have in their wallet is self-delusion.

For those with the "Kia mentality" who are gnashing their teeth when they read my posts, rest assured. I'm not driving up the price for the street Chicas (girls), Casa girls and Dominican Cupid chicas that are looking for a foreign man to fund their life. I'm flying in FAA class A airspace. Most are unqualified to fly at my altitude. They strictly operate at lower altitudes. There is a level, the 10% of high quality mujers (women) that exist here, that most will never see nor would the woman pay a bit of attention to them because they lack of refinement, language skills and have the "Kia mentality".

When you tell one of your mujers (women), as I have before, that you are sick and they buy or prepare food for you, then call a taxi they have a relationship with and send the food to you in the taxi, well that's a whole another level of human interaction that most of guys in this Forum will ever understand as long as they castigate my methods and the way that I do things. I'm hanging with young women who are going to university and studying medicine, engineering, business, government. We are strolling through Agora mall. They are shopping. They have their own money. Not even interested in mine. They are just traveling in style with me. We are chilling out in the mall at Santo Domingo's having cafe (coffee). No different than any other modern city.

The way I operate would be considered being a sugar daddy in the United States. But I do it for a 10th of the price I would have to pay in the US. I'm offering insight into a different game. It's not for everybody but it works for me. I appreciate everyone's insight and I listen to them. But most of what I read simply is not representative of my experiences. And most are not interested in reading, understanding and appreciating my experiences.

I'm living like a motherfucking boss, like a 1%er. A lifestyle that I could never even get close to in the US for the same money and I'm enjoying every minute of it. So if that lifestyle requires me to pay over two times what someone else does ($3 at Rainbow verses $7 at Forever 21) for a dress so be it. Why do I buy my girls, computers, cellphones, name brand clothes, shoes and designer handbags? Because I motherfucking can! The girls that I bring into my life give me experiences impossible to pay for. They come to the table with way more than just pussy! I suited up to attend a military reception. One of my girls invited me to her families 24th gathering. One of her Aunt's was back from Spain to celebrate the event. She owns a house here and one in Spain. All of this has required time and investment of energy into developing real relationships with people. It requires Spanish skills and the perception that I have enough money to be in their class.

I understand the perspective here on the forum, but nobody here seems to be able, or has the desire to understand mine. I hope this gives you better insight into where I'm coming from when I post. I'm considering the possibility that maybe no one is really interested in what I'm doing. They are simply interested in advancing their views, inflating their egos and ridiculing others. Bragging about their conquests as if sticking their dick into women who regularly fuck for money requires game.

You want GFE. I don't believe you can pay for that. You have to give BFE. And remember that your vacation is my life each and every motherfucking day!

[SubCmdr]

...but when you demonstrate that you don't know Latin women I feel a need to offer my advice.

I appreciate that Mr. Gogo. You know everything there is to know about Latin women and I know nothing. It's amazing I can even get pussy here and that I'm not broke and in the street crying over the fact that "I ben don wrong" given my total lack of knowledge of Latin woman.

Latin women like to follow and be led, being it dancing, love making or just general things in life. Being perceived as gullible and not knowledgeable to this only leads to men being taken advantage of by a Latina. Its not about taking advantage of a situation but demonstrating that you are to be respected.

With this I agree. But I fail understand how I have demonstrated a lack of knowledge about Latin women or gullibility.

Understanding the "Latin male Neanderthal" will allow you to enjoy Latin women at half the price generous gringo pays, as you said you live there.

So because I don't follow the Mr. Gogo gorilla pimp style of chica management, my girls don't respect me. And I overpay for their company.

What would I have done differently? First, I would wonder why my main girl would bring a friend for our special Valentines day. Then I would have stated that we are all friends so why charge me? I would do this to test their reaction. Would my main girl forsake me and side with her friend? Would her friend get hostile? Would they call me cheap? Their reaction would tell me things about them. Maybe they would both say I'm right and they wouldn't charge me. I would have my answers to what I'm dealing with and in the end I probably would pay the 300 pesos for that info.

Well Mr. Gogo, I'm not you! I hate holidays and tradition. V Day is a hallmark holiday designed and perpetrated on the world by capitalist interests. To the contrary, the just any other day mentality that my girl had for V Day was perfectly fine with me. And I didn't even see my number two. All she wanted to know was where her V Day gift was. Because I live here I don't have to wonder about the loyalties of my girls. I know exactly with ones are loyal to me and which ones are loyal to my money. But I never forget the real question: Is there a difference? I find it interesting that you have to actively play games with people in order to ascertain motives. I'm much more refined and distinguished. And more importantly, it is precisely because I live here that I have the time to make observations and allow those around me to demonstrate their loyalties to me. I've spent a lifetime as an observer. It's my nature.

You have the jeep, you have the crib with the pool, you have the money, be that "Latin Neanderthal" and call the shots and dictate what goes and what doesn't, be the boss. As you said" I live there".

Damn straight Mr. Gogo! You have the most amazing ability to state the obvious. You go ahead, be the "Latin Neanderthal". My suggestion to you is to continue to wield your pimp stick with authority and keep your chicas in line. It works for you. It is you!

Now, I am much more distinguished. I choose to exercise and employ a different leadership style with my girls. I lead by example. I explain what I like and what I want. I exercise subtle control precisely because I have the apartment with the ocean view, the grand jefe (Big Boss) mobile and the money. No expenditure of money happens without my approval. And I get exactly what I want. That a man of your worldly experience cannot recognize the effectiveness of my leadership style is surprising to me.

But there are two sayings that apply here Mr. Gogo:

1. When you are a hammer. The entire world looks like a nail.

2. The Kia owner always believes the BMW owner paid too much for a car.

[SubCmdr]

Early in my relationship with AFC, I got sick. She had a heavy course load (as a pre-med student in university) and was able not be there to take care of me. She was literally crying on the phone because of it. I was fine with it. Don't have any difficulties handing anything in my life. I told her right from the beginning school and work should be her priorities. I would be there when she had time.

She called her favorite taxi and sent me food in it. I had to pay for the food and the taxi. But I did not mind. Because, although I had not been in country that long. I knew the price of the food and the taxi ride was correct. He actually gave me a receipt for the food. And I gave him a tip.

My number two said, "I'll take care of you. You take care of me. " I respect that. I also respect that it was over a year before she said "Te quiero" (I love you). I believe her. After hearing so many women tell me they love me or that they want to be my girlfriend after the first fuck. Damn straight! I believe her.

After we had been seeing each other for seven months, I ask her how she's doing. She says not well. I can tell she's having a serious problem. I ask what is it. She said "It's money". She tells me that her ex refused to buy his sons school uniforms and she needed money to enroll in school. I asked: "How much do you need?" She stated that she needed 3000 pesos. But if I could not give her all of it anything I could give her she would appreciate. Now, this is a girl that has never asked me for anything. Except for something to eat and drink when in casa (house) with me. When she came by the next day I was just going to give her the money she needed, but she was having none of that. She came thorough the door stripped. Got on her knees, sucked, no she gorged and gagged herself on my dick. Bent over for me. Flipped over for me. She rode. Then we finished up in our favorite position. After some rest and cuddling. She went down on me like a nuclear sub commander and did not surface until "me leche fue en su estomago (my milk was in her stomach). ".

It is about helping good people when they help you. And if you are conducting business as opposed to building relationships then you better know your prices. Because if you get ripped off by someone here in the DR that is your own damn fault.

[Mr Gogo]

On the contrary my blog brother, how you spend your money has no effect on me but when you demonstrate that you don't know Latin women I feel a need to offer my advice. Latin women like to follow and be led, being it dancing, love making or just general things in life. Being perceived as gullible and not knowledgeable to this only leads to men being taken advantage of by a Latina. Its not about taking advantage of a situation but demonstrating that you are to be respected. Understanding the "Latin male Neanderthal" will allow you to enjoy Latin women at half the price generous gringo pays, as you said you live there. As I posted I paid before 800 pesos for a taxi and and 3000 pesos for the girl which I think is very generous, so I'm not a cheepo trying to get the best deal but I don't like being taken advantage of. Understand there was a growth process I had to learn to cut through the bullshit and develop a situation where mutual respect was required.

What would I have done differently? First, I would wonder why my main girl would bring a friend for our special Valentines day. Then I would have stated that we are all friends so why charge me? I would do this to test their reaction. Would my main girl forsake me and side with her friend? Would her friend get hostile? Would they call me cheap? Their reaction would tell me things about them. Maybe they would both say I'm right and they wouldn't charge me. I would have my answers to what I'm dealing with and in the end I probably would pay the 300 pesos for that info.

You have the jeep, you have the crib with the pool, you have the money, be that "Latin Neanderthal" and call the shots and dictate what goes and what doesn't, be the boss. As you said" I live there".

[Mr Gogo]

Blast from the past.

[SubCmdr]

Mr. Gogo,

Thank you for your post. Your response is exactly why I started this new thread in the hole in the first place. I believe that your information, experiences and opinions are useful. And that is exactly what I want. Your response is completely different from the initial responses that I received when I first started posting in the upper sections of the ISG-Dominican Republic Forum. You are not attempting to ridicule or engage in an exercise of one-upmanship. Your response was reasoned and well thought out. It explains your experiences and details what you learned and how you corrected them. You provided solid information on how to handle chicas (girls) here on the island. And quite honestly, I don't really think we differ in how we approach things. You pointed out to me in our conversation on Super Bowl Sunday that when the writer is writing about things already experienced sometimes important details are left out that leave questions for the reader.

If I understood our conversation correctly, and the posts we have shared with each other in the open form and through private messaging, you think I'm getting ripped off, scammed, and hustled (your words). But, it's not really that important that we agree. It's not really that important what my style is or what your style is. And it's not really about the money. The world of economics is not absolute. We all place different values on different things. This is because of the Concept of Bounded Rationality in decision-making.

I would like to introduce you to the concept of Bounded Rationality in decision-making (my apologies if you are already familiar with the concept). I will go through it for the benefit of others unfamiliar with it.

This is the concept that concept that decision makers (irrespective of their level of intelligence) have to work under three unavoidable constraints:

1. Only limited, often unreliable, information is available regarding possible alternatives and their consequences.

2. The human mind has only limited capacity to evaluate and process the information that is available.

3. Only a limited amount of time is available to make a decision. Therefore even individuals who intend to make rational choices are bound to make satisficing (rather than maximizing or optimizing) choices in complex situations.

Let's apply the concept to my situation on V day. Her plan was to hang out and go swimming with her friend. My thoughts were that's a great plan all things considered. Not having to go through usual V day hassles. Gives me the opportunity to bestow valuable benefits on others without it costing me a dime, thereby creating goodwill. This is because I've already paid for use of the pool in my monthly rent. And the cost of picking up her friend is simply the per kilometer cost of operating the Grande Jefe (Big Boss) mobile and my time. And my time had already been allocated to AFC as this was V day.

Bad weather that day scrubbed the initial plans. So, we adapted and switched gears. As I stated in my original V day post. We returned to get her friends manicure / pedicure equipment. And when we did she returned with two bags of manicure / pedicure supplies, equipment and her plastic bowl for soaking, washing and rinsing your hands and feet. When we returned to the house she boiled water and placed her instruments in the boiling water and they hung out in the kitchen for a while. They returned and her friend did her hand and feet and then it was my turn. Was she a professional? I don't know. I didn't ask to see her cosmetology license. But I've been enough in enough salons and had enough manicure / pedicures to recognize the equipment, processes and products that she used similar to the "professional" manicure / pedicures I've had in the past. She performed a proper manicure / pedicure. She went over the top when it came to working on my feet because I play tennis and it is really hard on them. The results were of the same quality as I've had by favorite nail technicians in the ee. Uu (United States). And it was the same when it comes to my hands.

The factors you are failing to consider: Weather caused a change in the original plans; Cost of transportation to your salon and return; That I received my manicure / pedicure in my living room in front of my TV (The feeling was quite decadent); She was rubbing her breasts all over my feet while she was working. (A minor sensual pleasure but enjoyable none the less); She gave me an excellent massage on legs / feet and hands / arms; She was professional in how she provided her service (she is just doing what another poster on here recommends: only running a business with no overhead).

How Bounded Rationality applies to my V Day.

Given the limited information that was available to me regarding possible alternatives and their consequences, my brain's limited capacity to evaluate and process the information available and with only a limited time available to make my decision, I made one that was satisficing. I paid 300 pesos (6 dollars and 55 cents US) for my manicure / pedicure and gave her a 50 peso tip (1 dollar and 9 cents US). Wao!

...but if you can't understand or care what is really going on...

Of course I do. It's very clear to me. You are bothered by how I spend my money. You are bothered by how I run my operations. Never mind that fact that I was very satisfied with the service I received. I don't believe in taking advantage of others just because I can. I live here. I'm not here to leave a path of carnage and wreckage after getting my dick off at the lowest price possible and then hopping on a plane.

With all due respect Mr. Gogo, if you want to play the role of the latin male neanderthal, knock yourself the fuck out. I'm sure your girls leave happy and satisfied. And you never give up one more peso than necessary to bust a nut. But don't hate because I run a different operation than you. My operations does not require me to be on the clock because I've got wheels up by a certain time. It was V day. My girl didn't ask for much. And her friend was alone and made a little money that day off of me. You need to tell me what was so bad about that. I honestly don't see how you could have perceived my experience so negatively.

Now, if you can't see my point of view, then maybe you should rename your section "ATTENTION READ THIS: Mr. Gogo knows everything about girls in the Dominican Republic and you don't. " LOL! Meanwhile, I'm going to spread the news that if it feels this good getting used, they can just keep on using me; until they use me up! ROTFLMAO!

Gozando vivir mi amigo (Enjoying life my friend).

[Mr Gogo]

AFC wanted to stay in all day, just chill with her friend and use the pool. We hopped in the Grand Jefe (Big Boss) mobile to go pick up her friend. After we got back to the apartment it started raining very hard here. Pool activities were out. So we went back to her friends house so she could get her manicure / pedicure supplies.

Her friend is a cute little thing that is a couple of inches taller than my girl who is 5'3". Her friend has a cute little spinner body like my girl. My girl is a 10. Her friend is a 8. She is a police officer. But she gets paid so little that she has to do nails on the side to make ends meet. That the biggest shame of this country. Public servants forced to make money in other ways to survive.

After her friend took care of my girls feet and toes, she had her friend take care of me. So, here I am on Valentine's Day getting a my hands and feet done by this attractive 21 year old, in front of my TV, on my chase, in my living room..

First, welcome to the hole (what I call the bottom part of the DR forum). Keep the reports coming dude. We talked at the party and I got the impression that you were satisfied with your style even though I offered my opinion on handling things different, and I decided to move past it to other topics. But now that you want to discuss things on an open forum, let me share my views.

I learned the same lessons as you but let me offer up some more to maybe help others.

Taxi scam:

I had a main girl who would visit me at Napolitano back in 2010. She would charge me 400 pesos each way for a cab and I would give her 2500-3000 pesos for dinner and an over night stay. After the second trip I noticed that the same raggedy, old taxi would pick her up and drop her off with the same guy driving. I asked "Jose the tout" about this and he said from where she lived to Napolitano is 150-200 pesos each way. He said girls have regular taxis that give them discounts. My next time I called her I said she was only going to get 200 pesos for a taxi and she protested so I hung up the phone after telling her to forget the date. Five seconds later she said she was on her way. I never paid more than 200 pesos for her taxi again. Girls will over-charge for a taxi to unsuspecting newbies.

Drinks:

Girls will ask you to buy them a beer and we think its only 90 Pesos, why not? But then she orders a Carona beer at 300 pesos and we don't know the difference until the bill comes. Always tell the waitress or bartender that the girl wants a presidente piqueno so everything is understood.

Dinner:

A girl I met through a couple in Cuba always had us double dating with me paying the full bill. After the first expensive dinner I explained to my girl that the money we spent on food should have gone to her for being with me alone. She cut the friends back to their disgust but my girl had to understand the rules and not play the full game.

Back to Subcmdr that "I don't mind mind paying" mentality should have limits. No price was previously discussed for the mani / pedi and they were riding in your jeep and hanging out at your house (and came to swim in your pool) but when it came to conclusion, you weren't her friend so you had to pay? Your main girl should have checked her for running this bullshit on her man but she played along. If you take them out for wings and the bill comes and you say" I'm paying for my lady but her friend has to pay for her wings' both those Dominicanas would have called you cheap and cussed you out before refusing to pay. What made you ask her "How much do I owe you" if no money was previously discussed for this service among so called friends? Did you feel sorry for the cop who had to do manicures on the side? She didn't feel good enough to give you the friends discount?

I got a manicure the day before the super bowl at this salon in Andres. It was 300 pesos and she was professional. She sterilized the equipment, soaked my hands, trimmed my nails and the sides then filed them. She finished with a brush to get the dead skin off my hands and a clear coat. If she did all this for a mani and pedi it was a great deal. Just maybe the girl didn't follow through with the hustle which was to charge you for both because she thought you were a nice guy but I still have a problem with your main girl letting you be charged anything if it was set up like friends hanging out killing an evening. Tell your girl not to bring friends or family around to hustle you unless its previously discussed, and that should end that.

I'm probably going to get the standard "Its my fucking money and I will spend it like I want" answer but if you can't understand or care what is really going on, then this forum should be titled "spending my money and I don't give a fuck what anyone thinks LOL".

Hopefully you will review this reply as coming from a friend and not just a poster here. Peace.

[SubCmdr]

AFC wanted to stay in all day, just chill with her friend and use the pool. We hopped in the Grand Jefe (Big Boss) mobile to go pick up her friend. After we got back to the apartment it started raining very hard here. Pool activities were out. So we went back to her friends house so she could get her manicure / pedicure supplies.

Her friend is a cute little thing that is a couple of inches taller than my girl who is 5'3". Her friend has a cute little spinner body like my girl. My girl is a 10. Her friend is a 8. She is a police officer. But she gets paid so little that she has to do nails on the side to make ends meet. That the biggest shame of this country. Public servants forced to make money in other ways to survive.

After her friend took care of my girls feet and toes, she had her friend take care of me. So, here I am on Valentine's Day getting a my hands and feet done by this attractive 21 year old, in front of my TV, on my chase, in my living room. When she was finished I asked her how much. She refused to take money from my girl because she is her friend. But she didn't have a problem charging me. And I didn't mind paying. She said 300 pesos. I gave it to her with a smile and a 50 peso tip. Man I love this country inside of my four walls.

Then all AFC wanted was to go out to the local shack that's really close in the barrio (neighborhood) behind my building and get some Yaroa (I think that is what it is called). We came back and I ate mine at the table while she was on the chase watching TV.

I give them BFE. So I get GFE.

[SubCmdr]

This is a thread to discuss the named topics and share my adventures here in the Dominican Republic (DR). A catch all place for things that just don't fit into the action packed threads of the different cities that are focused solely on the pro action. Cultural observations, philosophy, economics, game, chica psychology, negotiation, and anything else that leads to getting the panties on the floor action (POF) that we are all looking for.