SubCmdr's UTR's, Non-Pros (NP), and Sugar Babies (SB)

[SubCmdr]

Always appreciate the feedback!

Always good to hear from new people reporting. And you have been posting up some great information on having sex with girls in the Dominican Republic.

Someone else said there are all shapes and sizes and something for everyone. That is pretty much true. The reality for me so far is that the two girls I have probably enjoyed the most were found there. Grownman1 posted a range of 2-8. Very few 9's. Yeah, 2-8 ish sounds about right. On the nights I've been there I have not seen more than 1 girl that I would call a stunner. I'm splitting hairs here. 8.0-8.5 very pretty. 9 stunning. But as someone else said. Probably my 9 is there 8.0 and my 8.0 is there 9. Let's say there are 80 girls there. Maybe 10-15% are in the upper range that most any guy would want.

Thank you my man. Those who oppose numerical ratings simply don't have to use them. Here we focus on information about having sex with girls in the Dominican Republic. And all opinions are welcome. But those who are rolling with the CCC (Clown Car Crew) who post their CCC (Constantly Critical Commentary) up in here, yeah that shit gets deleted! And I make no apologies for that.

[Newb20]

Always appreciate the feedback! IDK about throwing at some ratings. First thing is. That looks like they may have started charging a cover. It was 200 pesos at least for the guys to get in. Not sure about the girls. But I think that may start at 10 pm and don't know if it will be every night. Someone else said there are all shapes and sizes and something for everyone. That is pretty much true. The reality for me so far is that the two girls I have probably enjoyed the most were found there. Grownman1 posted a range of 2-8. Very few 9's. Yeah, 2-8 ish sounds about right. On the nights I've been there I have not seen more than 1 girl that I would call a stunner. I'm splitting hairs here. 8.0-8.5 very pretty. 9 stunning. But as someone else said. Probably my 9 is there 8.0 and my 8.0 is there 9.

Let's say there are 80 girls there. Maybe 10-15% are in the upper range that most any guy would want.

And some of the better looking ones aren't good performers or consistent enough. I pulled a Hati_n girl off the street some time back. She was my 9. She wasn't consistent so I stopped seeing her. Which sucked because she had that "it" factor for me. But I won't be disappointed by performance more than once.

[SubCmdr]

It is kinda ludicrous to speak of numbers on a 1-10 scale as my 10 could be a 5 for others.

On this I agree. But it does not stop numerous posters from throwing numbers around to judge attractiveness. I see it in posts in many threads in the Dominican Republic forum.

The only number that is universally agreed upon in this context, is the age.

Why pay an older lady to fuck? If it's your thing I understand. If you like it I love it. But when it comes to non pros as long as they are at least 20 years younger than me that's good.

[SubCmdr]

Felicidades. Conociste herrera porque por fin encontraste las sensuales en skokka. Cual es lo mejor steakhouse en Herrera? Ja ja ja ja.

Gracias hermano. Me alego tenia un oportunidad a aprender algo nuevo. Antes fui in herrera porque mi amigo le gusta un lugar por pico pollo alla. Porque estas escribiendo a mi in espanol? Este es un lugar por ingles. Si o no? Hermano, donde is tu informacion sobre tieniendo sexo con chicas?

[Prtyr2]

Neither is being a man in the arena.

I've got a poster telling everyone I'm fucked up because I have a vehicle and have not been to San Pedro de Marcoris and yet he does not even have one. He's hoofing it and taking uber. If he cannot even afford a vehicle, how can he tell me where I should be going in mine?

I've got a poster telling everyone I'm fucked up because I actually posted information I had not seen posted before about having sex with girls in the Dominican Republic. And I posted a restaurant review he did not agree with. And I don't know the city as well as he does.

I've got a poster telling everyone because I posted information on an escort agency in Punta Cana that I'm promoting human trafficking. Is he mother fucking Interpol?

All the while there was not one single post from any of them sharing information pertaining to the actual purpose of the forum. And you wonder why I keep repeating that critics don't count?

Felicidades. Conociste herrera porque por fin encontraste las sensuales en skokka. Cual es lo mejor steakhouse en Herrera? Ja ja ja ja.

[SubCmdr]

Neither is being a man in the arena.

I've got a poster telling everyone I'm fucked up because I have a vehicle and have not been to San Pedro de Marcoris and yet he does not even have one. He's hoofing it and taking uber. If he cannot even afford a vehicle, how can he tell me where I should be going in mine?

I've got a poster telling everyone I'm fucked up because I actually posted information I had not seen posted before about having sex with girls in the Dominican Republic. And I posted a restaurant review he did not agree with. And I don't know the city as well as he does.

I've got a poster telling everyone because I posted information on an escort agency in Punta Cana that I'm promoting human trafficking. Is he mother fucking Interpol?

All the while there was not one single post from any of them sharing information pertaining to the actual purpose of the forum. And you wonder why I keep repeating that critics don't count?

[SubCmdr]

I remember just last year someone posted they knew of a place where you could get pussy for 1000 DOP. When I PM'ed about it I was told to "fuck off". Now I don't expect anyone to give up their personal contacts. But, I think about things a little differently. If it is a business that caters to the public then why are you withholding the information like it's some secret? And if it only serves a private clientele then why are you bragging about it on ISG? Guys be like: I'm not going to tell you about 1000 DOP pussy, but here is the restaurant where I get lunch for 100 DOP. WTF?

OK, so I rummaged around and found a 1200/ hour pussy deal. PM me about my 1200/ hour pussy experience and I'll give you the number. That's a big difference in the way that a lot of guys do things up in here. Man in the arena difference. When someone posts a trip report and they get attacked for giving out information and doing things in a way that others don't like it does not promote the exchange of information. That's why I like Grownman's blog. It stays on point and he truly welcomes all posts.

A lot of claims being made on how to get pussy (for less money, that's better looking, online) than what I have suggested. But they don't back it up with any hard information like I do. So they remain that, claims. It's so easy to get pussy in Republica Dominicana but no one is willing to share how they are doing it. Isn't that interesting?

When it comes to pussy, I don't care if you are an expat or off-islander. I'm not going to tell you how to spend your money, who to fuck with your dick, or how you should go about finding who you want to fuck with your dick here in Republica Dominicana (unless you ask).

There is pussy and then there are girls with pussy. Sometimes I have a relationship with the girl with the pussy. And man I still miss one. She was worth every peso. If she asked to rummage through my bank account I would have let her. That is how sprung on the cat I was. But she never did. I was leaving for a month and gave her my money clip that had 10,000 pesos in it and told her to take what she needed for the month (this was back when the exchange rate was 33 DOP to 1 USD). She took 4000 pesos. That's right. For the month. Check out this out this response to the very first post I ever made in ISG:

Nice post for the first time here. A thirty year old with a perfect face (10) and over perfect sex (12). (redacted for brevity) Wow. You truly are Santa Claus. Your money is your money like you I wouldn't care what anyone says.

I've been considered a pussy spend thrift since I started posting here. And I've always had tremendous respect for Grownman saying that right from the jump. Some think I have learned and moderated my spending habits like Grownman (learned a lot from him). Others still have a problem with how I spend my money cause I have more of it than they do. If you can afford to spend 300 USD a day on pussy you probably have more of it than they do too. I also don't have a problem buying two new tennis racquets for 200 USD each if I think it will help me serve better (the weakest part of my game). I like me tennis just tiny bit less than I like pussy. I would never cancel a tennis match in order to get some pussy. But I would cancel a pussy meeting to go play tennis. That's how much I like my tennis!

Someone asked about escorts. Now, I'm seeing a post from someone who said they were not even going to respond. Is that not some weird shit? Who among us are too good to help new people now? Some individuals confuse a question of the style of how you do things with the information a person asked for and the desire to do things the way they want to do it. When you ask a question do you want to know what someone else wouldn't do? Or do you want an answer to your question? There are people who don't rent cars here in Republica Dominicana. Does that mean they can't drive? Do you give a fuck if they don't rent cars if your question is about car rentals? Do you have to jump bad on someone and basically tell them that they are dumb as fuck for doing this every time you read about something that you don't do? How about a simple message about what you actually do? There is a post in the Sosua section that contains information about renting a car. It is not critical of anyone. It simply explains the disadvantages of car rental as the poster sees it and leaves it at that. Real man in the arena post!

My handle is SubCmdr and I approved this message. LOL!

[SubCmdr]

Yes in country getting pussy is as easy as falling off a log.
I wonder why some guys make it so complicated?

In which country? Because I've looked and I don't see any "falling off a log" reports for Republica Dominicana from you for the last year.

Why even have a forum if pussy is so easy for veterans to get? Oh, new people have questions about how to get pussy in Republica Dominicana. They ask the questions all the time in the main forum.

The founder must have thought sharing information on how to have sex with girls was important. I wonder why some guys are some having such trouble recognizing that? It shows how much reading compression skills are lacking along with basic trip report writing skills amongst a certain group. Getting pussy is easy in Republica Dominicana. But apparently writing a good trip report in order to help others is very difficult and complicated. Try not to hurt yourself the next time you fall off a log. LOL!

I guess for that group of veterans (sex in the DR not the military type) the spirit of giving back is lacking also. They hit the island and knew everything there was to know right from the beginning. Right? They are all self taught Dominican Republic experts who cut their teeth with their boots on the ground and learned everything needed to know without anyone telling them anything about the country. Nah, I doubt that.

Good shit bruh! Serve no wine before it's time! By which I mean the bruthas that are ready to explore will appreciate your info! The others will appreciate it eventually! Enjoy! Peace!

Lead by example eh? Ask your leader if he discovered carnival after reading my post "brutha" and by that I mean it inclusively.

Always representing East Side!

Note the picture.

Also, ask him if he also discovered Sosua and Boca Chica back when I was already informing those who appreciated my info about Santo Domingo / Santo Domingo este.

I don't need a leader. Nor do I lead. I show. And allow others to find their own path. I answer questions about things that I know and I direct them to others in the forum who I know have more knowledge in a particular area (even if they have a history of tangling with me). Because unlike the veterans group, I'm here to help and give back. Because I appreciated the help others gave me and that was provided when the main forum contained trip reports with information on how to have sex with girls.

Whole lotta speculation going on. That's some serious girly man shit. Real men in the arena talk directly to each other. But to each their own.

[SubCmdr]

Got Mr. E following my lead.

If you are looking to pay someone I would say Tinder is best. I do not think there is a limit to chicks hoeing on that site. And there is no need to tiptoe around. They will bring up money before they come. I had a 24 year old last night that was just what the doctor ordered. She wanted 3500 for all night, but I got her to 3000 (my new record high).

Same girl in my post. Imitation is the greatest form of flattery.

[SubCmdr]

Photos.

I have action shots of myself. I also have photos of myself in recognizable places in Republica Dominicans. Make sure your photos are clear and are a combination that show your face and body.

Written.

I have my profile in Spanish first and then the English version below it. My profile makes it clear I am not looking for a relationship. I'm looking to have fun right now. It does not put girls off here in Republica Dominicans. Girls here value directness. Those not into what your profile is asking for simply will not swipe right.

Settings.

I like to start with a tight range around me distance wise (5 - 10 miles) and an age range of 4 years. I don't read profiles. I swipe right with abandon not even looking through all the photos. If their initial photo does not catch my interest I swipe left. If you are not a paid Tender member the app will let you know you missed a match. I don't give a fuck.

Matches.

Once you get a match my dialogue is nothing fancy. Goes something like this:

Hello (Hola).

Wait for a response.

How are you doing?

Wait for a response (I don't pay any attention here if they use the usted form when they reply. I'm often much older than the girls I go after and the more educated they are the more formal the Spanish they will use with you).

I ask to see them (Quiero concocerte en persona).

They usually respond with a question of where I'm from.

I tell them where I'm from (But I always tell them where I am. Go to google maps and find the subdivision of the city you are in) I don't give them specific information on the hotel that I'm in until we have an appointment. It's important to let them know you are on the ground and ready to play.

Then once you get a positive response about seeing them I tell them to give me their number and we will talk more in WhatsApp.

Now this next part is optional. Depending upon where you are, you may want to un-match with them after you get their number in whatsapp and make contact. Sometime girls that are difficult (for example the ones from my country of origin) will complain about you and get your account shut down. I've had that happen to me once. I'm very careful when I'm in my country of origin.

Once you have their whatsapp number and have made contact with them. You just cut straight to the chase. Pros are going to tell you they are pros in Tinder and you will simply talk business in WhatsApp. Non-pros or semi-pros will be a bit coy about it and ask what are you going to be doing together. Key: don't promise something you are not going to deliver. They get that shit from Dominican guys all the time. Be a man! Say what you want and deliver on what you promise. That is the best way to avoid chica drama in Republica Domincana.

If the chica asks for a gift, ask her what she wants specifically. If she says: "cash", ask her how much? If she gives you a response in USD and you only have DOP ask her how much in DOP. Some girls are spot on exchange rates. Some are not. Unless the initial amount is within my range, I always counter with less, more services or more time.

A note about services: there are a lot of massage girls that are showing up on Tinder. They are going to try to sell you that massage with happy ending. Make sure to ask specifically about the type of happy ending. If you are not interested tell her and ask for what you want. Most of the time you will get it. It's just a matter of price.

Some pros will just come out and say they are pros in their Tinder profile. Others show you by the types of photos. They don't show their faces. They are in hotels or location that they couldn't afford to be on their own.

When it comes to pros: ask about specifics when it comes to service. Time, covered, anal, ect. A girl claiming to be a pro who will not talk to you explicitly about services is to be avoided. I also avoid the answer to the "oral without condom" question of: depends on your hygiene. She knows your hygiene is never going to be good enough for her and by the time you find this out you are in the mix.

I lead by motherfucking example because that's the type of man I am:

Match RDTC1 (Republica Dominicana Tinder Chica 1).

She contacted me first (unusual but a sign she's ready to play).

Her / Me.

Hello / Hello.

How are you?/ Good and you?

Next day.

I am fine also. Thank you (Gracias) I want to know you in person. (Got heart from her on this one).

Good morning. Yes, when?/ Give me you number and we will make plans in whatsapp.

OK.

She gave me her number. / I gave her my number.

We switch to whatsapp.

The thing I noticed about her is that she paid attention to the little things in our conversation and she had real conversation with me. We talked about our lives and what we were doing and when we were going to meet. We did this over 30 days before I found myself in a situation where I just wanted to see her.

I was a little after midnight and I was just chilling a park on Avenida Espana. So I hit up RDTC1 to see what she was doing. She was just chilling at home. I asked her if she wanted to do something. She indicated that she did. Sent her my location and asked if she would come to me. She agreed, if I paid for the taxi. She got ready and just before she was ready to call the taxi. She asked if we were going to have sex. (It should be noted that not once had there ever been a sexual reference nor innuendo in the previous 30 days we had been talking). Said we could but if we did she needed a gift. I asked what she wanted for a gift and she told me money. I asked how much money and she wanted 3500 DOP. I countered with 2500 DOP. She pleaded with me to give her 3000 DOP because she needed to pay for her university. I agreed.

She arrived. I paid for the taxi. She had on one of those Dominican style off the shoulder tops that chicas tend to favor here; blue jeans (with a phat ass stuffed inside of them), flat white sandals and a lovely black hair thingy that really complemented her overall look. She had pink finger nail and toe nails painted white with contrasted nicely with her lovely dark skin. We went to a cabana.

Got inside and settle in. She started dancing on the pole and undressing all sexy and shit. Rubbing up against me and grinding. When her bra came off she had these huge dark nipples. They could poke your eye out if you were not careful. But the real treat was when the jeans dropped revealing the purple thong all up in that ass crack showing off those lovely cheeks. Sir Mix-a-lot's song comes to mind.

Sexually everything was covered, but that's not really important to me. She barely gave me five minutes of head, before climbing on. But for some reason that wasn't important to me either. She rode me in all kinds of different positions (knees, toes, reverse) before I put her on her back and drove it home in missionary. Light kisses on the lips on occasion. She was very cooperative and even though it was late and I was very tired, I managed to cross the finished line easily. She was not quick to get up. Just a quick check of the condom. I went to clean up. She stayed in the bed and got under the covers. Played around with me touching my nipples and rubbing my back and neck before falling off the sleep. I didn't blame her because she needed to get up early to head to class. So, I just let her sleep admiring her lovely body directly and in the mirror. Her skin was like silk and the color was exquisite. And that ass, yeah she had a lot of that. It was a very mellow session for me but it was just what I needed. She came out when it was really late. Put her work in and I had a good time. What more could I ask for? She woke up and was ready to leave. I wanted to take some pictures of her naked from behind but she told me she didn't like that.

When she went to clean up I put her money under her phone. I asked her if she would see me again and she agreed. I also asked if she had a friend for a trio (threesome). She explained that she did but it would just be for me because neither her or her friend was lesbian. She showed me the picture of her friend and she was fine too and a different body type so that's perfect. I had her call a taxi and walked her out to it. She notified me when she got home and thanked me for everything (what a sweetheart).

The next morning I hit her up in whatsapp. We exchanged greetings. She explained that she was already in class and asked how I was doing. Then she apologized for not spending more time with me but she needed to leave to attend an early class. I told her I understood and that we would spend more time together next time. She asked when that would be. I told her it would be after a brief business trip I have to go on.

Finances.

200 DOP Taxi to me.

200 DOP Taxi home.

3000 DOP for her.

650 for the room (a cabana that since I entered after midnight bought me time until 11 AM the next morning).

Epilogue.

Remember those who talk shit about me and ask them where is their actionable intelligence that they have posted with the specifics on how to pull girls in Republica Dominicana.

"You don't know what you are doing. Of course I do. " - Jay-Z.

[SubCmdr]

Damn I feel cheap as hell. I give an average of 1500 pesos to 2000 not by the hour but it's an exit fee. Overnight to me is overrated. I don't want anyone to feel like they're obligated they have to stay. Especially when they really want to leave. I will start off with 1500 pesos to 2000 and if I want her to stay all night, or she asks me, will I even think about extra. I do give gifts but the price range from 3 to 8 dollars gifts. Giving a Chica $125-$180 per night to damn much for in my game plan. 3000 pesos is the most I've ever given a Chica for staying overnight.

That's some real talk Mr. Grownman. Those new to the country better listen up. Those who already do things they way they do can just keep spending all that money you got how you like!

[Cameltoelova]

This is old but, my first trip to the DR. Santo Domingo - 58 days.

Thanks for the props brother. Hit me if you ever you ever get over your allergy. Trust me I understand. Santo Domingo and especially Santo Domingo este is very different in ways both good and bad from the way it was when I first arrived here.

Yes, I did give away secrets. I did it to show the difference in making a positive contribution to the sharing of information on having sex with girls instead of all of the chest beating, dick measuring and girly man chatting in the hen house that goes on in the regular forum. I started my blog to chat about non pros. It is a subject that gets ignored and when a poster does mention it in the regular forums usually there is no detailed information within. Even when I pointed to a place where you can find non pros and it was confirmed by another poster it was met with a personal assault by no less than three different critics that almost never post any useful information but go around patting each other on the back and I'm sure they are on their knees with each other in praise (and other unmentionables) when they get together. I'm not about that. And it was a error and serious misjudgment of character on my part to meet any of them initially. But I digress.

[SubCmdr]

Man I miss reading this post I don't know how. Ain't no Thang Sub. Glad to see you're back.

I ask not what ISG can do for me. I ask what I can do for ISG. My only regret as I have but one dick to give to the chicas.

Live long my brother, smoke, and may the pussy be with you. Always!

[SubCmdr]

I simply asked how do you know whose girl looked better for whatever price seeing that neither have posted pictures of any girls?

And neither had anyone else who made the challenge about prices. Your normal double standard being applied because of personal biases? Dime (tell me). You didn't challenge the person claiming I'm an internet bully. Seriously?

Maybe they both emailed you pictures of the girls for you to judge. Whatever the case you left the question unanswered as to how you knew whose girl looked better. Or is it that you are just assuming that someone one person gives 8000 to would look better than someone another person gives 5000?

Your entire reasoning is one grand logical fallacy. But you are not alone in this. Many make them throughout the forum. I don't make assumptions. Nor do I post about them in this forum. I have opinions and I really don't give a fuck what you think of them. Then there are facts. And no one has every successfully challenged a fact I have posted about Santo Domingo este in this forum. And how could they? Show me the active poster here has spent more time in este than I have.

But to answer your question (even though I don't have to because I don't answer to you or anyone else on the forum) I know because I've seen the pictures of the girls in his network. I've seen the girls in his network and I've been with the girls in his network. Asked and answered counsel. The defense rests!

[SubCmdr]

The last post by Mr. E is one of the best posts in the Santo Domingo forum that I have read about game. It contains useful information and actionable intelligence.

Old Kool that is where game comes into play. Just because someone wants something does not mean you have to give it to them. I honestly do not know how many non-pros I am fucking right now that want a committed relationship. Whenever they mention it I shoot the idea down. Then everything continues as normal.

The problem is that most guys are afraid to lose out on pussy so they give in to what a woman asks, thinking if they say no then the woman is gone in the wind. So what. There are millions more where that one came from. And telling a woman no is the best way to find out why she is really with you.

I was seeing a chick in Colombia and we took a trip to the beach at the beginning of February. She was really impressed at how I could take pictures in the water with my Galaxy Note 9. So impressed that she told me to bring her one just like it next time. I told her no. I offered no excuses and no alternatives, just a flat out no. She never spoke to me again. What me worry..

True that!