SubCmdr's UTR's, Non-Pros (NP), and Sugar Babies (SB)

[SubCmdr]

Before you come at me with your worthless lectures and have been on this board long before your annoying personality came on. Why not show members here respect. If a member asks you not to send out there information then do not do it. Is that to much to ask from a grownman? Why not show that person respect. Your disrespectful and very insecure as a man. Your life not mine. Stop worrying about me and learn how to be a man and when someone asks you not to do something then do it. Not a lot to ask. Now is it. Do not send me a private email like you done in the past.

Before you come at me with assumptions and statements about something you know nothing about remember that I could care less about your time on the board. I've been reading your posts for the entire time I've been posting here. But I've failed to see you post anything that is close to being a comprehensive guide to the game that you claim to use to pull non-pros out of various venues across Republica Dominicana. Why? Is it due too fear insecurity or both? I have no such fears or insecurities. Reference is made to my guide to Day Game posted below. Now in fairness to you, if you posted it before I came onto this board please give me the reference. As I am always interested in solid, actionable information.

Before you become a shill for another grown man ask him why he is sending death threats to someone simply because he disagrees / dislikes him? Would you like to see the emails? Probably not as that would cause you to have to confront a inconvenient truth and require you to receive a private message from me. Instead of calling me out about respect, review your own posts for that consistent tone of superiority and constant lack of actionable information. Only an insure person such as yourself would make the statements as you do about other people. It's a projection. When you post incorrect information and I post correct information complete with screen shots and you have a meltdown combined with an apoplectic fit it indicates to me that you not in the position to lecture anyone (except the person you see in the mirror) about the actions of a grown man. Grown men can handle criticism when they are wrong and you clearly were. It's also fairly clear that at least in this forum you can't handle your man business.

My policy is to praise in public and to discuss differences in private. But since you didn't want a private message. This is my response to your rant.

[SubCmdr]

IMO if you have been coming to DR for more than a year and you are still dependent on pros your doing something wrong.

I'm a bit confused by this comment. Didn't the conversation start about streetwalkers? If they are not "Pros" who are?

I thought we were talking about streetwalkers? I been here long enough I don't need pros anymore nor advice. There are several casas that un mil will get you one pop and go outside of the tourist traps.

Well then I guess we were talking about streetwalkers after all. Care to share information on the several 1000 DOP for one pop casas that you mentioned in your post?

Non pros are the best. Been talking about them since I hit the island. The last trip I relied on pros was my first trip.

I remember posting reports saying that exact kind of thing in this forum (get a chick and just give her 1000 the next day when you are ready for her to leave) while other members were posting crazy stuff like negotiating and paying 2000 and 3000. And I'm like why are y'all paying so much? I guess the other guys won out because now you got hoes asking 5 and 8 thousand. Fuck that.

Nobody won out. It's the laws of supply and demand. Also the cost of living. Anyone who lives here and is not on the tourist economy where they are spending money like they are 1%'s know that the cost of living is going up. I see it every week in my grocery bill, combustibles and propane. A lot of you went to college but maybe not all of you did so well in economics. Quick review of laws of supply and demand might help. And for those advanced enough to handle it check out the concepts of Bounded Rationality.

https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/bounded-rationality/

This is real talk. Notice how the writer gives actual experiences then his opinions and does not tell anyone else what to do. Others could learn from him instead of getting defensive and critical. Straight man in the arena talk here.

I got a girl from tagged who is a 19 year old university student that was ready to spend 2 hours for 1 mil pesos with as many shots as you can and DFK and BBBJ. I guess it depends from non pros to pros. The pros (girls from the street or casas) know the prices and more about the business, so they want to hustle for the next client. But just offer them a propina of 100 or 200 pesos (2 or 4 dollars) so she can do 2 pops in an hour. There is no casa or club girl that can meet for 1000. I think the least was GBP for 1200. But when they have the special, they throw you in 2 girls for that price..

Roll The Boss' music for the outro!

[Tempoecorto]

Many do not want to mess with non-pros because they are more hassle than pay for play with putas. Quite honestly I'm not sure I would mess with them if I was on a clock from wheels down to wheels up. But I'm not. So I have time to play no matter how tough the girl game is.

I cannot speak for others but non-pro (actually a semi pro is more apt) is the only way for me even when I rarely stay longer than a week. I cannot remember when was the last time I got one in Sosua from the streets. It also means that I do not have to negotiate a price or have other issue often spoken of here. Most women I invite wait for you to hold their hand to lead and I do not see any rush. Indeed it is often I that has to suggest that they leave. But all that calls for some advance work that I do on line and given that I am not going to marry anyone, online interactions and photos have so far worked fine with me. I am sure there are quite a few people like you, who follow the same playbook but do not advertise it, reason why I said "kudos" to you for writing about it.

[SubCmdr]

Excellent write up and suggestions. Personally I have never been to Mega centro but then I am kind of allergic to SD as it is a big city but I am, some what like you, drawn to anything "barrio". LOL! Indeed I would be curious to try it out at this location, once.

One caveat though: You are giving away the secrets and that might not be a good thing by overcrowding the field, eh? .

Thanks for the props brother. Hit me if you ever you ever get over your allergy. Trust me I understand. Santo Domingo and especially Santo Domingo este is very different in ways both good and bad from the way it was when I first arrived here.

Yes, I did give away secrets. I did it to show the difference in making a positive contribution to the sharing of information on having sex with girls instead of all of the chest beating, dick measuring and girly man chatting in the hen house that goes on in the regular forum. I started my blog to chat about non pros. It is a subject that gets ignored and when a poster does mention it in the regular forums usually there is no detailed information within. Even when I pointed to a place where you can find non pros and it was confirmed by another poster it was met with a personal assault by no less than three different critics that almost never post any useful information but go around patting each other on the back and I'm sure they are on their knees with each other in praise (and other unmentionables) when they get together. I'm not about that. And it was a error and serious misjudgment of character on my part to meet any of them initially. But I digress.

No fear of over crowding my brother. Many more than you have an allergy to Santo Domingo / Santo Domingo este. I've been told to stay in Santo Domingo este by people who don't even know that Venezuela Avenue is in Santo Domingo este not Santo Domingo. Took another person to confirm what I showed them in a screen shot of google maps (I guess they thought I photoshopped the screen shot).

Many do not want to mess with non-pros because they are more hassle than pay for play with putas. Quite honestly I'm not sure I would mess with them if I was on a clock from wheels down to wheels up. But I'm not. So I have time to play no matter how tough the girl game is. It's one reason I favor online interaction. I don't have to waste my time vetting girls in person. I'm not running all over the two cities chasing pussy. Pussy comes to me. If a girl wants a full blown dinner date before she drops the panties I'm not down with that. Coffee, lunch or drink is all that on offer with this brother. If they are not down with that then I'm moving on.

Remember what I said about hundreds of girls turning 18 every day on the island. It's true. It's the mentality of abundance and I'm all for sharing in the abundance because I didn't know a thing about it until someone shared the idea with me. And no it wasn't the new self appointed SEA expert who claims he did everything for me (that claim is the REAL weird shit).

No, It was a buddy that moved here a year before I did. He doesn't even read the forum or post here. We had taken a trip together to the island about 3 years before and I stopped coming because I liked the place so much that I went back home to clean up my affairs in country of origin so I could spend as much time down here as I wanted. Who starts off in Santo Domingo for their first trip to Republica Dominicana? I did. Who suggests that you start like that? Well let's just say I don't see many suggestions in the main forum that you do it like me. And why should you if you are not like me?

But, now anyone who is interested in running day game in Santo Domingo, Santo Domingo este, Santiago (which I've been told is a tough nut to crack on the non pro side) has a guide. Anyone who wants do what I did (and still do) has a guide that contains solid useable information (actionable intelligence my brothers). They can take what works for them and modify it for their needs. Even my haters ain't got shit to say now because I'm the real deal and always have been. They just don't like my style of doing things and especially they way I write about it. Like Young Jezzy says: "I talk it like I did it cause I lived it by the way".

LOL!

May the pussy be with you always!

Afterward: Light rain in Santo Domingo este as I write this. Which of my critics can give me a weather report on where they are right now?

I had the occasion to be out on the street at night (yes, I do that too). I was rolling along Las Vegas Boulevard (I call San Isidro east as you cross over Charles DeGulle that because it's lit up a little like Las Vegas due to all the cabanas. My critics, you have seen that right?) And I see no less than six to ten putas sitting around the cabanas waiting for a pick up. Now the gran jefe mobile was already filled up and I was heading for my own close encounter of the sexual kind already. Looked at my watch it was three in the morning!

[Tempoecorto]

Mega Centro- Speed Dating Dominican Style.

Excellent write up and suggestions. Personally I have never been to Mega centro but then I am kind of allergic to SD as it is a big city but I am, some what like you, drawn to anything "barrio". LOL! Indeed I would be curious to try it out at this location, once.

One caveat though: You are giving away the secrets and that might not be a good thing by overcrowding the field, eh? .

[SubCmdr]

Mega Centro- Speed Dating Dominican Style.

Walk up to a girl; greet her; complement her; ask for her phone number; ask if she is doing anything right now. Invite her to have a bite to eat in the food court. Buy her something to eat. Afterwards invite her to the cabana or your room. If she says yes, it's on.

If she says no, it isn't over yet. Send her on her way but keep in touch with her via whatsapp. Invite her to the cabana or straight to your room the next day. If she says no at that point all you have lost is your time and the 250 pesos you spent on her for lunch. You got to no quickly. You still had to eat and you made more than one approach that day right?

But you have to execute the lunch date correctly. You eat where you want to eat. Do not ask her where she wants to go. Take the lead and make the order for both of you. Dominicans are a sharing people so she's going to want to try what you are having anyway. The most you need to do is figure out if she likes beef, chicken or fish so you can at least order her something that she likes on a basic level. During this time eating together spend it asking her questions and even if your Spanish is not great find some way to communicate using hand gestures or pointing at things. Say the english word and ask her how you say it in Spanish. All of this is to simply build rapport, making eye contact, smiling and lowering her inhibitions through familiarity. If the vibe is right and you are ready to escalate do not hesitate to tell her you want to spend more time with her in a more private setting and invite her to the cabana or to your hotel room.

Yes, it's that simple gentlemen. You are selling the dream of potential but they know if the panties don't drop immediately they are going to lose that opportunity. Most will not want to take that loss. It's a "right now" culture in the Dominican Republic. They worry about tomorrow when it gets here. Make whatever promises you are comfortable making except when it comes to money. Her immediate request for money is a red flag that should cause you to what Snoop Dogg says and "drop her like she's hot". Remember you have already done something for her (bought lunch / food / desert / drink). Once you have done that you can say maybe all the time and still have an opportunity because she is looking for the next thing you are going to do for her.

The example given above is of actual mall day game in Santo Domingo Este. You can apply the same basic principles to all approaches during the day. Take your cue from how she's dressed. If she seems to be headed to work or getting lunch you have to swoop in and get straight after it. Get that number and keep moving. At most find out when she gets off work or her day off.

One of the reasons I prefer Mega Centro over the upscale malls like Galeria 360, Acropolis and Blue Mall is the down to earth accessibility of the girls roaming around that mall. I have to admit that I'm biased. I started out making approaches in that mall and I also feel the girls there are more attractive than in the other malls. But that's because I'm so barrio myself. I prefer barrio girls over all others. I cut my teeth making approaches in colmados in and around Zona Colonia. Right behind my first apartment in Santo Domingo Este it was straight barrio.

You see barrio is a type not a location. Because you can take the girl out of the barrio but you can't take the barrio out of the girl. You can find barrio girls that goto university and that have jobs. If their families live in the area chances are unless they are married or have kids they are going to stay close to their family and the area where they grew up. So being a barrio girl can have absolutely nothing to do with their actual socio economic position within Dominican society. Keep that in mind everywhere you go in the Dominican Republic.

"Yeah shorty's bad, but she broke and she don't own shit" - Migos can apply to the hot girl that has caught your eye in Blue Mall that just running around and faking the funk as it can to a barrio girl shaking that big ole ass in Mega Centro.

Much success to you gentlemen and good hunting!

Afterward.

This is non-pro advice. You don't have to bother with it if you are chasing putas. With putas all over the island you just have to find one, make a deal with her, fuck her, pay her, puta leaves. It's really no more complicated than that. You just got to know where the putas be at in any particular location you happen to be in on the island.

Now there are those that claim that I'm a know it all. That I post to try and show off my intelligence. I do not post for that reason. I don't know it all. But I know a lot. I'm very intelligent but the knowledge I share here has come from actually living on the island for years.

Look at the posts of these same individuals claiming I know it all and being critical of my writing. They post nothing useful nor provide any tips to new individuals to the Dominican Republic on how to actually pull girls (non pros) in different situations. Now they talk about doing it. And I can name names but I won't because they know who they are and you do too.

Remember while some were claiming to hold my hand, walking me around a puta pueblo nearly three years ago, by the time that happened I had actually lived on the island for more days than they ever visited over the last 10 years. I had put together a harem of six girls from non pros. And I was already doing the things they are just now talking about being able to do in retrospect. Better yet, I experienced it first hand, made my mistakes, posted about them. Took much written abuse from many and yet I am still here throwing up posts like this one. Posts that share actual information on how to have sex with girls in the Dominican Republic.

Although I enjoyed my visit to the puta pueblos of Sosua and Boca Chica. Not a single girl that I was with was more attractive or gave me better sex than any of the girls in my harem or for that matter my booty call girls. And the putas all cost me more and that's not even factoring in having to pay for the hotel room (none of them compared to the view had had of the ocean from my apartment), food away from home (my harem would cook for me) and the over all hassle of having to pack and travel. I haven't been back to Sosua. But Boca Chica is a lot closer and I've visited there a bit more.

You can disagree with my methods, but instead of being just being critical, take time to share the actual techniques you use to successfully pull girls of all type on the island. And I don't mean that bullshit "I goto clubs and pull girls". How some posts on how you actually did it?

You see there is not a shortage of girls here. The death nell to success is failing to have a mentality of abundance. It's said that every day hundreds of girls on the island turn 18. And it's true. If you don't want to fuck around with non pros the idea is not to brag and boast but to share what works for you no matter what type of girl you prefer or the methods you use to get her to wet your dick with her pussy.

But to talk to girls here you have to learn Spanish. I cannot emphasize this enough. It's like breaking the Enigma code. It's like being handed the keys to the kingdom. It's like unlocking the vault of endless pussy. It is a steep learning curve for sure. But one that pays dividends across 20 counties and over 400 million people world wide. Half of those are girls. How many girls are in your home country? Once you can talk to them if you are dealing with non pros you need to bring some degree of game to the table. A lot has to do with just being fearless.

Fuck all this talk about attractiveness and personality. It's been claimed by some that I'm fat, ugly, insecure, a elfin jerk, with an annoying personality that can't speak Spanish very well. But all those personal opinions of me have never stopped me from getting my dick wet and busting a nut with what I consider to be hot young girls (and even a few ugly ones). That should give you some insight into why critics don't matter.

Approach, Approach, Approach and Approach some more. Do it with confidence. That alone is attractive. Domincanas are approached all the time. They say no a lot. But pretty much the only ones that say no have husbands and boyfriends. And the idea is to get to no quickly anyway. You got to be able to take a no and just move on. And if you are going to post up in here you got to be able to ignore the critics keep doing what you are doing. And keep posting about it just like me.

Get your clothing in order. Not flashy or expensive. Neat clean and don't look like a tourist on vacation. Look around and see what other Dominican males in your age range are wearing for clothing. Especially the ones with good looking girls. For 90 percent of the girls here surpassing the bar of the men they usually have the opportunity to hang out with is pretty low. You only need to just clear it to be a success.

I'm not here to win a flame war, have others praise me or count my responses to build my self confidence. I'll leave that to my critics and others. I'm in it for the pussy! I'm a man in the arena. I know that the critics don't count. Because they confuse style with substance. I provide substance. They don't like how I write. They post inaccurate information. I correct it and they have apoplectic fit. Man up!

If just one person reads anything I write and it helps them get some poosy. That's a win! And that makes me happy. Isn't that why were are all here? To bust a good nut? If not, then I can't do nothing for you man. Because, well that's why I'm here. And to share. Share what I've learned the hard way and what others have taught me.

It's the occasional personal contact that I make off of ISG that keeps me here. Yes, my initial experiences meeting people off ISG were all bad. But even one of those initial ones worked out well. Then I met a series of high quality people of like mind and that has made it all worth it.

Anyone with boots on the ground who would like to explore este can send me a personal message and I'll fire up the Gran Jefe mobile. As the expression goes: "I got a full tank of unleaded". I do this for the real brothers because overall it's personal meetings and the information shared with me by those individuals that has been the net plus for The Cmdr.

Side note: There is so much about the Dominican Republic that never winds up in ISG. I think it's because when somebody throws up a post about how they do something and it does not fit what (this small group of critics that populate the forum) they like to do they trash the methods and the person.

Board credibility has very little meaning for me. Post count, length of time on the board. Who cares? I sure don't. Talk to me about the number of remain overnights you have on the island. Post up useful information on what you actually do on this island. And save your personal opinions about people you have never met (non pro guy and big boob guy I'm talking to you) for yourself. Or come out from behind your keyboards. You know where to find me.

There are many brothers on here the have earned my respect. I don't need to list them here because they are not the type that thrive on self validation and promotion in the main forum. They know I respect them because they have answered my personal messages and shared useful information with me. And I have thanked them for it. I also return the favor when I can. Most are way more knowledgeable than me but often can't be bothered to even post anymore because they realize that the Dominican Republic forum has been played out for years. They have earned my respect because they understand and execute the real spirit of the forum. They are my fellow men in the arena. And all of us know that it is not the critic that counts.

May the pussy be with you. Always!

[SubCmdr]

This post is about a casa.

So me no like casa guy should not have any interest in it. Nor should anyone that questions the validity of my posts. That would include I like big boobies guy who thinks I am a "effin jerk" and does not want to met me anywhere in the world. Strange I don't remember extending an invitation to him. Non pro expert guy that talks a lot of shit and finds my personality annoying. He needs to get up off his knees, put his big boy pants on, stop shilling for other members posting on here and admit you made a very simple mistake. Or is Google Maps wrong? Next time don't kill the messenger. Own your error! Full Stop. Not interested in taking man lessons from you. Real men can make a mistake and be corrected without screaming like as the former Governor of California would say "a girly man".

But first I shall digress to address a few issues: Santo Domingo province was created as a separate municipality in 2001. The dividing line is the Ozama River. That means all geographical features including a street named Venezuela is in Santo Domingo Este. If there is a business located on that street it would be in Santo Domingo Este. If you find this information mentally disturbing, offensive, or disrespectful tough! Deal with it. If you been one of those around so long on ISG that you missed the change I understand that.

But I've lived in Santo Domingo este since I moved to the island. That's the different between the SubCmdr and a lot of other people that post on ISG. I post from a base of street knowledge and could give a fuck about board credibility. Why? Board credibility does not get me laid or anyone else.

Factual correct information that allows me to find and bed girls is what gets me laid. And would guess that's what most of the readership is looking for also. The question that remains in my mind is: Why don't my critics just put me on ignore if you don't want to read my posts or respond to my personal messages? There is a help function to explain the process. And this process is not just available for me, my critics should feel free to use it on anyone they disagree with or find annoying. Respect is earned!

I'm not here for the book of face or grams that be instant. My apologies to the other members for having to wade through the posts made by those failing to share information, that instead having a desire to conduct their personal business and make their criticisms of others in the main forum as a way to develop board credibility and favoritism.

In my opinion, much of it should be handed through the Personal Message system but instead they choose to make the main forum their personal chat room. But I'm not running things up in here. So don't hate the player, hate the game! Now shall we return to sharing information about having sex with girls? We shall see.

I fired up the Gran Jefe mobile and headed out of Santo Domingo Este. When I crossed over the Ozama River I entered Santo Domingo. I know stuff like this because I live here. Rolled up on Young Dude and he hopped in. We hit the road. He showed me some of the pictures hot girls he be working with that I hadn't already seen and just like the other ones they were smoking hot (in my opinion of course). Prolific poster guy and I like big bobbies guy need to take note of this. The Subcmdr and Young Dude also had a nice discussion during the ride to our destination. We were on the search for day casas.

The Penthouse (Ph).

Through a whatsapp conversation with the representative I learned that the Ph was open from 10 AM to 2 AM the next day. Price of service is 1 hour 2 ejaculations. It is located off of Avenida 27 Febrero on Calle Caonabo in Plaza Irene II, Santo Domingo Oeste, Santo Domingo. Send me a PM for the phone number or you can find them online. It's in a commercial plaza that is very busy during the day, but deserted at night. You go up four flights of stairs and it's a unmarked door on your right.

I rung the bell and a old man came to the door looking like we woke him up. He paused a little like he was confused, then told us to wait a minute. He left the security on the door with it cracked. A few minutes later he then came back and let us in. We were led into a salon area that was well lighted with two metal chairs. It is a two story establishment. I could see into one of the bedrooms. The place looked clean. Out came a blonde who told us her name was Tatiana. She was about a 6 in looks with an average body. Average face. She made a little small talk with me and I asked her if there were more girls than her. She told me one other and she came down from the upstairs. She was a 4 and gordita. Not either of our cup of tea. I would have done the blonde and so we asked when there were more girls in house. We were told after 7 PM.

Back on the road in search of day casas. I heard there was one over on the rich side and I had been there before. But it had been a while and when I last hit with one of my road dogs, I wasn't driving and was deep into the crown. So and we drove around a bit but could not find it. It's a casa that always has a full house of 6 to 8 girls and they operate from 10 AM - 10 PM that is their specialty. Holla at me or post it up if you know what I'm talking about.

Back to the Ph. Once you are in their mailing list you get a message from them each morning. I hit the representative back and told them I visited yesterday and there were only two girls in the house. They asked me when I visited. I told them 4 PM. They said OK. I asked at what hour will there be more girls there. They did not respond. They sent Young Dude fake pictures. And I saw their advertisement online today and they are also using fake pictures.

May the pussy be with you. Always!

[SubCmdr]

Critics are going to be critical, but if the critics are also going to read your posts just to know what you are up to, so I don't really care. If you are a critic who is still reading my blog then you are doing so just to be critical of me. If you then feel the need to comment on it even if you don't mention the SubCmdr I'm on your mind and as always happy to share my thoughts and opinions with you.

No matter how critical any particular person happens to be of me, they don't matter. Because it is not the critic that counts. Only the man in the arena!

[SubCmdr]

Oh yes "we" are! LOL.

This is just bar talk, been going on forever.

Some mongers who contantly buy sex have frail egos, reps and street cred to maintain. Especially so with the crowd that mongers and hangs together, or used to!

It often turns into a pissing match and sometimes a circle jerk, always ready to jump all over a newbie, with their own fisherman's tales.

"Quality" of chicas is in the eye of the beholder, hence "true value", and of all the photos that have been posted here, I don't recall any I'd be personally interested in fucking!

The result is that newbies get tired of the BS and move on and leave the forum to the old "experts" here. Or they just don't tell the truth anymore about their fishing trips.

Thanks for the history lesson Mr. Oakie. You are one of the men in the arena. I started posting here in 2015. So it's been going on for that long. Was it the same thing before my time?

I've got 1825 days living on the island. Most of my personal critics to not live on the island. So most to have spent an equivalent time over the last 10 years they would have need to spent 182.5 days a year here. That's more vacation days a year than the average working man has. Mere time on the island means nothing if you aren't doing anything with it. Lucky for me that hasn't been the case.

The idea of the forum is to share information on fucking girls on the island. It really does not matter how you want to find the girls to do that. Payment, online, pulling them from clubs, Day Game in malls, random street meetings, personal introductions, bars, piano bars, casas. At the end of the day the men in the arena are talking about what they have done. Our critics are taking about what we have done.

[SubCmdr]

Very strange that a man who claimed in several email exchanges that he no longer posted on ISG and that others (like Mr. E) had moved on also is back again living in the past and bragging about something he did with me (not for me) years ago.

Let's set the record straight I sent a cease and desist notification to this individual who threatened me with physical body harm one time and then another time threatened me with death. This is the same individual claiming he did so much for me. That is the core of the obsession. The idea that I owe him something or need something from him. The block on whatsapp occurred after the threats. And I tapped that button. So, I guess the conversations he had with me were lies and empty threats. Because I'm still here. All you have to do is read several of his posts to see the level of his emotional imbalance when it comes to the Subcmdr. Or you can PM me and I'll share our personal email correspondence and you can judge for yourself.

Remember the universal law of reciprocity in interpersonal relations: 95% of the time when you don't like somebody, they don't like you either.

[SubCmdr]

This was written in the Blackbeards Resort User Blog.

Nice report. Comprehensive, and to the point. Good to see trip reports back on the thread, which is why the thread exists. Muchas gracias.

It was followed up by this:

Surely you do not prefer fact-filled trip reports to the ten-paragraph posts on the theory of mongering?

Actually I do prefer fact-filled trip reports. It would seem that there needs to be a Santo Domingo Chat forum and they could use one for Sousa also since it seems like those with diarrhea of the keyboard simply cannot keep negative commentary to themselves while pinning away for their return to the island.

Yes, you can tell someone to RTTF, but it you have to slog through the swap of lame ass commentary about dick slanging, chest beating, where in the world the pussy is better and extreme one upsmanship before you get to some substantial usable information about having sex with girls on the island.

Just my opinion on what I read. I can drop out for six months at a time, return and in the Dominican Republic Forum it's like time stands still.

[SubCmdr]

because my 2 regular girls won't want to go to a "puta hotel" in Sosua. (Yes, I know guests brinng hoes to Victorian house but it isn't as blatant or common as the other hotels in sosua).

This statement supports my view that Prostitution is legal but not accepted in all circles in the Dominican Republic.

Can I get a witness?

[SubCmdr]

Let me start by saying I'm responding to a post from Brother P here as I have no new information to add that I consider useful to others. This is my blog and so this post is designed make a point.

I said walleska went legit. Not sure why that bothered you. If working in a clothing store instead of selling pussy is not legit to you fine. Most people got what I meant.

Nothing you do Brother P bothers me. I bother you. A review of your posts responding to mine will quickly indicate that. It should be noted I'm not most people. I'm exceptional. And although I'm flattered at your need to improve my understanding of things most of the time is not necessary.

For the record 17 years fulltime, three years previous were on and off. Have rented 8 places, lived in a pension for aboit 7 months and bought one apt. My first apt near you on ave espana was in 1999. The first DR map for mongers was on an old website I did. Before google maps, facebook, youtube etc. When they closed all the places in Gazcue, allen who had Cisne briefly after he had a place off charles de gaulle wrote me and asked me to kill the site as there was a lot of "heat", so I did. Back then there were a ton of places in Gazcue alone and seeing dudes walk into an unmarked MP or casa holding a printout of my hand drawn on computer map. BTW the longest thread by far on Allen's old UG site is by me as well. All about Ficha bars. Ficha bars are very similar to Piano bars but piano bars do not have fichas, all based on propinas.

Well hasn't technology progress quite a bit since you hit the island Brother P? A most impressive history Brother P. But does that make anything I have said inaccurate or invalid? Let me tell you that history is not what I'm interested in when I look at the Santo Domingo forum. Guys with lots of experience relating stories about the glory days (not just you Brother P many others do it also) may be entertaining but they are not useful for me. Let me explain it to you this way: My most important nut was my last nut. I'm not pining away about nuts I busted years ago or for that matter significant achievements from years back. Furthermore, I do not let my experience in the country blind me to the fact that the experiences of others may be very different. My experiences based on a longer history on the island than someone else do not invalidate the experiences of others. But this is a reoccurring theme in the posts of individuals in the Dominican Republic forum, and of yours Brother P. YMMV is just an expression but is often very true. I'm quick to note that there is no way anyone's experiences can mirror mine because they are not me and therefore unlikely to do things like me. And why do you post your assumptions that are not true?

If you actually wanted info instead of back and forth you learned what the laws are in DR and what a Fiscalia is.

I'll let you in on a secret my man, of all the posts you have written I have learned very little info from them. Unless you think attitude is useful information for me and others. You think I didn't know what a fiscalia is? Wrong again about me Brother P. I know all about fiscalias. FYI, I have appeared before three different ones and beat the rap every time. But your comment completely missed the idea I was trying to convey: the sharing of useful information for others. Even though I knew what a fiscalia was others may have not. I would hate to see the Santo Domingo forum deteriorate into the Sousa chat type of forum. I'm focused on the sharing information.

As for Piano bars.

Mamayes. up on tiradentes

XXOO. around the block from Mamayes

Puro Caf in Villa Agricolas down the block from Par de 55 which is now Don Juan Caf bar and was across the street from Conejitas. Taxi drivers did not like going to Villa Agricolas.

Jotas Bar whch is on Nunez and would be walking distance from me if it was still around. Loved that place.

Jey Jey. On Romulo after Baba Lu but became a cafeteria. Most Jotas girls went there when Jotas closed. A girl that worked there now runs Mambo and is the wife ir GF of the manager.

Baba Lu. I took maybe twenty Dominican buddies there and none had no idea it existed. Walk into liquor store. Un marked door in the back of the store but inside the store. Open door and maybe twenty hot chicas at 3 in the PM. First place that started having colombianas..

Finally a post that contains useful information. Mission accomplished! This is some of your work that I actually enjoyed.

And now, I'll return to my regularly scheduled enjoyment of life.

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I just looked at a advertisement online where the following offer was made:

Hola Cario, Mi nombre es Madelin. Chica Educada why bonita Dominicana de 18 aos de edad. 💲1. 500 1 Hora💲2. 000 la hora 2 eyaculaciones Vaginal why sexo oral💲3. 000 2 horas 4 eyaculaciones why sexo oral💲4. 000 3 horas 6 eyaculaciones why sexo oral ATIENDO A APARTAMENTOS HOTELES why CABAAS Todo con Protecciand 7 mil la noche desde las 11 pm hasta las 8 am del thea siguiente o acordando horario con trato de pareja Toda la Noche.

Man also said he paid 7700 for overnight. You think he could not get a girl from CT for that?

Example of the strawman logical fallacy. You are attacking a position I do not hold. I was not addressing that issue. Your question also contains the "appeal to ignorance" logical fallacy as ignorance is not proof of anything except that one does not know something. No, I do not know the price of all night chica takeout from Casa Teresa costs. And neither do you because if you did you would have given us some factual information. But since the last time I was in Casa Teresa I was quoted 4500 DOP and hour, If I was running the house over night exit would have to to be at lease 7000 - 8000 DOP. That's my thought straight no chase without any logical fallacy mixed in. There is also a report that said "todo la noche" is 7000 DOP. Seems 7000 - 8000 DOP is the going rate when quotes for overnights are being given. I've only been living here almost five years, I just might of picked up on a few things here and there.

Just because a person did not purchase the lobster, does not mean they have never been to the restaurant.

Is the restaurant you are referring in Casa Teresa because I was not aware there was a restaurant in the place. That's the "red herring" logical fallacy.

So you are saying there is a train from Puerto Plata to Santo Domingo?

Once again you engaged in the "strawman" logical fallacy as that is not position that you can attribute to me. Feel free to review what I actually wrote in my post and I'm sure since you have good reading comprehension skills you will be able to answer your own question.

I drive everywhere, so how would I know if there was a train covering that route or not.

That is the "causal" logical fallacy. It's impossible for me to know what you have learned from driving everywhere in the Dominican Republic nor is it possible for you to know what I have learned during the almost 5 years I have lived here in the Dominican Republic. In my opinion (and there is nothing humble about it) your audience would be better serviced by direct statements from you instead of seres of logical fallacies that wastes everyones time fails to provide any information.

Do you have any actual factual information to share or would you simply like to continue to share your logical fallacies and opinions?

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Spoiler alert: The following post has no information that will help you get laid. Horny ones have been advised (donk, donk).

I'm going to list a series of statements about the Dominican Republic, ISG and myself that were sent to me by a well known (at least in some circles) visitor and poster who now claims to have found paradise in a peaceful beach town in a country that remains undisclosed (at least to me) "where people love each other and the culture is based on respect". My first question after receiving this information given what I know about the individual who sent this to me was: "How the fuck do you fit in there then?" LOL! But I digress.

First statement that we will deal with is this one: "FYI those people in the DR who are sad to see you leave and happy to see you arrive are only happy for the money you donate to them, surprised you still haven't realized that after living in the DR so long."

This statement is more of a reflection of the author's inability to integrate further than his dick entering pussy for a few pesos exchanged after wheels down in the DR. LOL! His problem was he never really lived in the DR. He was just a bird. He flew in and he flew out. Furthermore he doesn't speak Spanish well. Trust me on that one. I've sat through enough meals with him listening to him muck up the most basic Spanish when ordering.

Now, I'm not knocking sexual tourism. You have never seen a post from me where I criticized another man for how he chose to use his leave or spend his money. A sexual tourist comes to the Dominican Republic seeking to fulfill his or her (yeah fellas the girls are getting tuned up too) sexual desires by paying for them in some form. That hardly qualifies as a donation. Since I've been known to slip a chica a few pesos in return for doing the wild thing and I live here, that would make me as one poster put it a 'Sexpat'.

The notion of a donation is a completely different subject. A donation is something given without expecting anything back. I do that too. Doing that makes me a philanthropist. Is my philanthropy a bad thing? I don't know. You would have to ask the author exactly what he meant by his statement. Because the author has a way of talking a lot of shit and practicing what he preaches. Just because I don't have billions of dollars to give to a foundation that then hires people to figure out the best way to give my money away because I'm so busy making more money does not make my meager contributions (I live check to check like the 800,000+ government workers who are being used at pawns in a political fight by the President of my country of origin) to individuals, corporations and governments any less valuable to those that receive them. You see even though the Dominican Republic is on the come up, there is still a lot of resource poverty and great wealth and income inequality (similar to my county of origin).

Let's start with my donations to the government of the Dominican Republic shall we. For every 1000 USD that I spend here the government collects 180 USD in the formal market. I also pay for a marbete to register my old vehicle that is more than 5 years old. I pay a tourist fee to enter the country and usually pay a overstay fee in order to leave. Since I routinely spend money in the Dominican Republic why wouldn't the government be sad to see me leave and happy to see me return. I know this to be true because every time I arrive numerous representatives from the Dominican government are waiting to see me when I arrive and are always there to give me a rousing send off when I leave.

When I'm stopped by the police (PN) I have often given a donation to the AFPR (Association for Police Refreshment). I'm not ever riding dirty so I've never had a traffic stop conducted on me. I am usually stopped at a checkpoint where the police are soliciting donations from upstanding citizens and respected visitors such as myself. This donation consists of 20 DOP and is given with the notation that it would allow one to buy a Coke at the closest colmado and still have 5 pesos left over. Lately, since the improvement in pay and pensions for the police, the last two time I have been stopped I was just questioned and sent on my way. Now when stopped by AMET they don't play. Their donations are based on the law. During my first year of vehicle ownership (Grand Jefe mobile) I failed to purchase a marbete on time so they stopped me (enforcement this year started on January 8th), impounded my vehicle and it cost me 4000 DOP overall to get it back. Needless to say I have not made that mistake again. I make my donation when I'm supposed to and purchase my marbete on time and display it proudly.

I have friends that pass through the Dominican Republic and live here. I donate a lot of alcohol to my friends when they visit me. They also donate lots of food and alcohol to me. I also donate my time and energy taking them places and showing them things. All have told me they appreciate it. And why shouldn't they? That's what real friends do. I'm always happy to see them arrive and sorry to see them go and it has nothing to do with their donations. LOL!

I get a haircut and a straight razor shave every week. My barber charges 200 DOP for the service I always tip 50 pesos. That 50 pesos is a donation. How do I know this? Because every time I give him a 500 DOP note he gives me back 300 DOP in change and I have to give him the 50 DOP tip. Never assumes that he is going to get it. He has a baby was born with medical problems. Severe medical problems the type where doctors are not certain if he will make it through his first year. I've held his son. I've given his son clothes and pampers. After seeing his son sleeping on the couch I increased the fortunes of Mr. Bezos and ordered a boxinete for his son then paid for it to be shipped here. You can't even buy stuff of that quality here. I know because I did my research. When his son was in the hospital I brought them a packet of baby wipes. I invite all to post and let me know if you think what I did shows somehow that I don't understand what I am doing? That I don't realize that they are appreciative of my "donations" or that the only reason I get smiled and welcomed into their business and home is because of my "donations". You see every time I go for my haircut I'm invited upstairs (he and his wife live above his shop). I'm offered something to eat and drink. Every time! It's a nice view up there. And sometimes I enter the shop and he has five or six other customers waiting for him. They are not invited upstairs.

I put a kid in futbol camp. Cost me 500 DOP. There goes another one of my donations. Got a group picture of his class via whatsup. Just so we can keep this shit in perspective I paid 1840 DOP for a bottle of Aviand aejo tequila. It's good stuff! I recommend it. Bottle had been on the shelf at Ron Depot so long it was collecting dust. I pay 250 DOP consistently when I go thru the drive thru of the new Burger King on San Isidro. After I spend some time internally processing the DOP I spent on these things wind up in the toilet. Just saying.

"FYI those people in the DR who are sad to see you leave and happy to see you arrive are only happy for the money you donate to them, surprised you still haven't realized that after living in the DR so long. ".

Really, my brother? Are you actually that self involved, that cynical that you have lost your humanity? I'm glad you have found your spot where you can focus on self and ignore the plight of others in your life there (if you have any other). I'm not that type of person. And although it may not be the right thing for you to do, it is the right thing for me. And that is how I'm comfortable living my life. For the sake of your own humanity I suggest that you stop being a critic of others and focus on living your life well. Reaching outside of yourself may be the key to finding your inner peace. It's not some particular place. No place is perfect.

I don't have a warrant out for my arrest in my country of origin so I don't need to hide out in another country trying to avoid extradition. I don't need to keep a secret about where I happen to be at any particular point. I spend my time between the Dominican Republic, The United States of America and Mexico. I have access to a fleet of jets from Delta Airlines that I use. Sometimes they even let me sit in first class. I got 99 problems living in Dominican Republic, but trust me on this: a chica ain't one. In fact I've come to the conclusion that it's a better place to visit and vacation in than to live. But I wouldn't have know any of this had I not actually lived here. Yes, I actually lived here. I wasn't a bird dropping bombs as I flew in and flew out. As a man in the arena I choose the ignore the critics, because although it's easy for them to be critics, they don't count. Take the road less traveled, be a man in arena. Be a man who counts!

Now back to my regularly scheduled enjoyment of life. I'm off the hooka. But still on the rum, with a little tequila and vodka thrown in to keep it fresh.