Pina love

[BrainDrain]

Whenever I have paid the subscription I go immediately to the setting and cancel the renewal because, like you, I would forget otherwise.
I suspect that you have cancelled the subscription rather than cancelling the renewal because they are completely different things.
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I went into Paypal and cancelled the authorization for the service. Not on PL. Arrgggg.

[Red Kilt]

Knowing that I would forget to cancel the subscription in 4 weeks time, I cancelled the subscription in Paypal thinking that that will just stop the renewal.

Seems that as soon as I did that, PL knocked me back to the free account and 10 minute delays again.

Have sent email to customer service. No reply. Will update if ever I should get a reply. Most expensive 10 minutes for $24.95. That's more that a Perimeter barfine.

BD.

After you pay PL has a setting where you can cancel the automatic renewal after 1 month. The default is to renew unless you actually cancel.

Whenever I have paid the subscription I go immediately to the setting and cancel the renewal because, like you, I would forget otherwise.
I suspect that you have cancelled the subscription rather than cancelling the renewal because they are completely different things.

I hope in your case that the PayPal may not yet have been processed, and so when you cancelled it was assumed you had a change of mind.

It takes a day for them to process billings I have found so I reckon you haven't actually been billed.

[BrainDrain]

I took the step and upgraded my free account to Premium for my upcoming weeks in AC.

Paid via Paypal and all was good.

Knowing that I would forget to cancel the subscription in 4 weeks time, I cancelled the subscription in Paypal thinking that that will just stop the renewal.

Seems that as soon as I did that, PL knocked me back to the free account and 10 minute delays again.

Have sent email to customer service. No reply. Will update if ever I should get a reply. Most expensive 10 minutes for $24.95. That's more that a Perimeter barfine.

BD.

[Wazoo]

I use both DIA and Pinalove, but I use them differently. I've got a dual agenda. I'm open to a long-term relationship and find DIA best for that. There seems to be a higher class of woman available there than in Pina. Yes, you have to work past all the fakes and scammers. I have one absolute rule that I never, no matter how heart-breaking the story, will send money to anyone unless we meet in person first. The ones who are just in it for the pesos will drop you in a heartbeat once they find that out. I've had women play me along as two weeks before telling me about the "emergency. " They can really fool you. But I've also met some really great women from DIA and will enjoy some getting to know you dates when I'm there. I don't expect immediate sex from my DIA pool because I'm open to long-term from them.

I use Pina mainly to spot the working girls. I don't really like the bar atmosphere. My goal is to find a sweet semi-pro instead of a hardened bar girl. I've reached the age that one night stands just don't appeal to me anymore. I want some connection. The semi-pros are easy to spot on Pina. Just look for sexy outfits and poses, lots of cleavage, and spare profiles. A lot of them just give you their phone number and don't want much chat. It's pure business. But I've been able to find a couple of sweet girls that I wouldn't mind seeing over multiple days.

The biggest mistake I made in DIA is to start too early. For more serious relationships, I wouldn't start until a month ahead. For the casual relationships, a couple of weeks should be fine. These girls tend to be pretty erratic and it's hard to keep things going much longer than that.

[Aron001]

I tried PL because I heard it was a good dating site to meet regular, freelancer, and working girls. So I'll just go straight to the point and tell my story.

I planned to visit Philippines for a 2 week vacation during New Years eve so I open an account with PL 2 months prior to my visit and yes I paid the $25 to be able to message any time without having to wait those stupid 10 minutes. Something about me is that I'm 30 year old Latino and I could pass as a Pinoy so I'm not sure if that affected my chances with girls. My strategy was to build a friendly relationship over PL and then meet up in Phil to close the deal. By the end of 2 months I was seriously talking to 8 girls (4 in Manila / 2 in Cebu / 2 in Angeles) which were looking to meet with me. Out of the 8 girls I actually met with 3 (2 Manila / 1 in Angeles) but not because the other girls didn't want to meet but because the girls I met initially wanted to see me again or because I was busy going in activity tours.

Manila.

Girl 1: University Student, works in mall, 21 years old, no kids, lives in Quezon city. Picked me up in airport day of my arrival and together went to my airbnb apartment. We chit chat for about 15 minutes, then started making out, then shower, and you know the rest. No money transaction was made or requested by the girl. She couldn't stay the nights with me as she lived with family and she was a decent girl, this work to my advantage as I had the chance to enjoy the nights in Manila. Total GFE and I actually believed her story based on the pictures she showed me. I met her 3 other days when she was free and we had sex multiple times each day, again no money was requested.

Girl 2: Customer service rep, 33 year old, no kids, lives in Makati. Met on NYE and went to celebrate in Cafe Havana. We dance all night till probably 3 am then, as we are in the taxi ride back to her place, she asked me if I wanted her to stay the night. Of course my reply was absolutely. Arrive to hotel, make out, then shower, and you know the rest. We had sex multiple times when we woke up and again no money was requested, total GFE.

Angeles.

Girl 3: University Student, works in restaurant, 25 year old, no kids, lives in Angeles. Picked me up in manila airport (after my trip in the islands) and then together took the bus to Angeles. We chit chat thru the 3 hours in bus, we checked in hotel, make out, then shower, and you know the rest. We had sex one time, then went out to bars in Angeles and disco to dance, came back to hotel and had another session of sex before sleeping and waking up later that day. She too gas a GFE. She didn't ask straight forward for money but hinted she needed to buy her school books, I asked her how much, she said 1000 pesos. So I gave her 1500 pesos. Why in the world would I go with a girl to Angeles, well it was my first time in Phil and I didn't know the bus route.

Now some may think that I'm cheap because I didn't give some girls any money but just to make a note that thru my meeting with the girls I paid for everything (food, drinks, transportation) and some didn't ask for money.

Remember how I said I built the friendly relationship which help me get free sex, well the con is that now the girls are either attached or playing attached and I have to close the relationship. Which makes me feel somehow of an asshole.

Overall great experience with PL. There is potential if you are willing to put in the time, otherwise just pick up girls at the bar.

[Fastpiston]

I have developed the following estimates from my regular use of Pinalove:

Over 50% have kids and looking for a foreigner to take on all the financial costs.

Over 20% of the "Manila" girls are not actually living in Manila but in provinces.

A significant number just say "Yeah" to all questions, must be illiterate or something.

About 20% are "working girls" easily detected when the request for money comes on day 2 or 3.

Some jump at the invitation to come to Manila to meet you, if this happens very fast, there is either a money agenda or just looking for somebody to buy them a ticket for them to work in Manila. Once in Manila, they may just disappear.

Those "Manila" girls with sexy pictures are almost certainly working girls looking for a wider client base. With these, simpler to just bar fine from a bar and know what one is getting!

[Drukyul2000]

You're welcome.

I'm on PL often and I've never a seen a girl worth 8K. I think 2-3K is acceptable..

Thank you Hutsori for sharing your experiences, I owe you a beer. Also your PM is full, please delete few to accept new ones.

[Hutsori]

First of all, thank you Hutsori for taking the time to write the post below, very informative!! I am a new monger so please bear with me, I haven't done much except for picking up FLs in Pattaya.

I am OK to pay for the services but now the confusion is what is the right amount, I do not want to be the reason for shooting up the rates nor Payless to somebody. There was this chick I really liked and wanted to bang but she asked for 8 k (pesos of course), I found that way too high. In Pattaya I could get someone like her for 2 to 3 k. Can somebody share the range between what we should pay.

BTW I have these contacts from pinalove.

You're welcome.

I'm on PL often and I've never a seen a girl worth 8K. I think 2-3K is acceptable. There are a few that 4K is understandable.

Some advocate gifting a sum, say p3000, and accepting whatever service is provided. When dealing with a known working girl, i.e. one who asks "how much will pay me?" or discusses money, I think it's best to discuss what she'll do and what she won't.

The trick to compensation is to lay out your expectations. Don't ask an open-ended question like "What will you do?" With a working girl I think it's best to specify exactly what you want upfront. You want anal? Mention it. You want bareback. Mention that too. If her answers are many refusals then offer p2000 or decline the meeting. If she's agreeable adjust your offer higher. If she's vague saying "I'll think about it" that's code for "no". A meeting is spoilt when there's a disagreement caused by a misalignment of your expectations and her willingness to perform.

Another thing to consider for your payment is how long she'll stay. If it's one shot and she's gone that's very different from her staying 10 hours and multiple pops.

Lastly, the best way to avoid a change in the agreement is to tell her you'll give a bonus of p500-1000 for no complaining, no "emergency and I have to go", etc.

This was the case when somebody asked upfront but what should one pay if someone drops into your hotel room without any upfront deal?

I think there should rarely if ever be a mystery. With practice you should be able to determine someone's socio-economic background through conversation. Is she well educated? Not claims it, but can demonstrate it? Does she have a professional job like an accountant, lawyer, marketing manager, etc.? Even call centre / BPO girls can be paid well. Does she have her own car and drove it to your condo? What does her father do? Can she converse about these, not just give simple answers? Girls who are from middle class and higher I don't pay.

Alternatively, if the girl can't function well in English, has no job or a menial one like a waitress, talks about money problems, lives in a bed sit, etc. then I put some money in her purse. If you are uncertain it's best to put some money in her purse. If she scolds you, which has happened to me, mention that you wanted to buy her a present but don't have time and don't know what she needs. Trust me, girls who aren't working girls are deeply offended by even the suggestion they are.

Lastly, don't mislead girls into thinking you're a potential boyfriend if you are not. If you're looking for fubus then this needs to be mentioned in your profile, if allowed, or in your initial messages.

[Drukyul2000]

First of all, thank you Hutsori for taking the time to write the post below, very informative!! I am a new monger so please bear with me, I haven't done much except for picking up FLs in Pattaya.

I am OK to pay for the services but now the confusion is what is the right amount, I do not want to be the reason for shooting up the rates nor Payless to somebody. There was this chick I really liked and wanted to bang but she asked for 8 k (pesos of course), I found that way too high. In Pattaya I could get someone like her for 2 to 3 k. Can somebody share the range between what we should pay.

This was the case when somebody asked upfront but what should one pay if someone drops into your hotel room without any upfront deal?

BTW I have these contacts from pinalove.

[Hutsori]

I plan to make a list of about 8 to 10 hottest ladies that I would have banged and keep rotating among them. Instead of going and hunting or starting from scratch, I think this idea should work. Please share your thoughts people. Is this practical or am I just naive?

It's what I do, but I'm resident so I'm not flying in occasionally. Another member was a very frequent visitor and he kept in contact with them on wastebook, but he's no longer participating on the forum so no info coming from him anymore.

Keep in mind these women have their own lives and many genuinely want to marry; you can't expect them to sit idly waiting around for you. I don't care if they meet other guys; I explicitly tell them that if they're looking for a husband they should stay active on the dating sites, but there's no reason to sacrifice enjoying one's life waiting around for the mythical Prince Charming. So many women are accustomed to a fella trying to control their lives, keeping tabs on them, jealous arguments, etc. that my approach surprises them.

Many of my fubus share with me the messages they exchange with some other blokes. "Should I say this?" "What does he mean?" They tell me about their dates. I helped one girl screen all the replies to her Craigslist casual encounters postings; in her advert she stated clearly she's not a prostitute and wasn't looking for money, yet many of the replies she received disregarded this and asked for her fees. Men have poor reading comprehension skills. I've had girls drop off for a while because they decided to pursue a relationship with a fella, but then he either ceases communication with her online or he visits the Philippines for 2-4 weeks and departs; then she's back at my place again.

Anyway, you want a mix of girls by occupation. Most call centre employees work the night shift, so a girl is able to meet in the morning after work or she visits in the early evening before going to work. Students have gaps between classes. It's smart to limit meetings to no more than twice a week.

Of the group 2-3 are ones I do outside activities with too, such as seeing a film, going out to dinner, partying at a nightclub, etc. It would be impossible to do this with all, so the majority are strictly at-home entertainment. Learn to cook a few dishes very well because a lot of girls like this.

Problems arise with weekends and holidays like Valentine's day and Christmas. Many girls want it to be her special day. Some girls get it in their heads it would be nice to go away on holiday for a long weekend or even a week, which is something I would find maddening. Girls who have a lot of free time may want to park their behinds at your place, and you have another date coming in a few hours. You need to have a good excuse why you must leave, and mine is golf. Why golf? Because she can't come along. Walk her out to hail a taxi or catch a bus. Make sure she's not going in the same direction as you pretend to be going or else you're stuck trying to explain why you can't travel together. I also have friends who host "boys only" events like playing poker or watching the football. Again, made up. Girls know I'm meeting others, but most of them don't want it rubbed in their faces. You'll meet a few who are cool with it.

The other sad problem that arises is when the girl wants to promote the relationship from fubu to exclusive. This happens more than I like, involves hurt feelings, tears, etc. A real bummer. It's best to let them go than promise something you won't deliver.

Lastly, stay active on the dating sites because you're always looking for new talent.

[Drukyul2000]

Speaking of PinaL, I just had 2 besties leave me just now. Both college students (yeah right). Met me at Metrowalk last night. Had some Starbucks and back to Hotel. Switching back and forth between them, BBBJ, DATY other, switch, cum and then sleep. Order Jollibee for breakfast (YUCK) for 500 p. Dam its pricey for delivery LOL.

More fucking till 7 am. Shower and call Uber to get them gone. 5 k for both all night. For about $130 USD, not a bad deal for 2 21 yr olds IMHO and coffee LOL.

Yes its better in the Phils LOL.

PC out.

I plan to make a list of about 8 to 10 hottest ladies that I would have banged and keep rotating among them. Instead of going and hunting or starting from scratch, I think this idea should work. Please share your thoughts people. Is this practical or am I just naive?

[LittlePervert]

Second this. Kudos to PL for finding a killer way to sell memberships. I'll be upgrading shortly before my next trip.

I've only been an active member on PL for about a week. I have a ton of messages from girls ranging from 18 - 40. Most I end up chatting with on Viber. Several have already agreed to see me during my next trip and two keep sending me topless selfies. I am very interested in seeing what the return on the time I've spent is.

I have far less message. Do you show your original country location in your profile, or the Philippines (Cebu?).

Thanks.

[Pcpc1688]

Speaking of PinaL, I just had 2 besties leave me just now. Both college students (yeah right). Met me at Metrowalk last night. Had some Starbucks and back to Hotel. Switching back and forth between them, BBBJ, DATY other, switch, cum and then sleep. Order Jollibee for breakfast (YUCK) for 500 p. Dam its pricey for delivery LOL.

More fucking till 7 am. Shower and call Uber to get them gone. 5 k for both all night. For about $130 USD, not a bad deal for 2 21 yr olds IMHO and coffee LOL.

Yes its better in the Phils LOL.

PC out.

[Drukyul2000]

To anyone who wants to use this site, a word to the wise. Make your profile very clear what you are looking for, and that you only want to see local, on site ladies, unless you want to get messages from all over The Philippines. I have had so many messages its annoying.

On the other hand, I met a very nice 23 year old who spent the night with me for a nominal fee. She was very nice, and I'm sure I have a regular any tie I'm in Angeles city if I desire. Good luck, be polite, have fun, be careful.

Thanks for the info, I have some good contacts from Pinalove, yet to try them out since my trip has only got delayed. Frustrating part is that I might have to reconnect with them and go through the irritating greetings and formalities again. I am sure none will remember me after two weeks.

[Azhiker54]

To anyone who wants to use this site, a word to the wise. Make your profile very clear what you are looking for, and that you only want to see local, on site ladies, unless you want to get messages from all over The Philippines. I have had so many messages its annoying.

On the other hand, I met a very nice 23 year old who spent the night with me for a nominal fee. She was very nice, and I'm sure I have a regular any tie I'm in Angeles city if I desire. Good luck, be polite, have fun, be careful.