Toronto

[Banana Boi]

Thank you for your reply. I have checked many reviews and yes will go for any agency, if possible for you can you please let me know if there is any particular agency which I should try first, I will really appreciate if you or any senior member can help me out in choosing my first agency. Thank you.

Go to Mirage first.

[JHappyDog]

Recently I have read good reviews from WEL - https://www.westendladies.com/toronto-escorts.

Thank you for your reply. I have checked many reviews and yes will go for any agency, if possible for you can you please let me know if there is any particular agency which I should try first, I will really appreciate if you or any senior member can help me out in choosing my first agency. Thank you.

[MeddyAvi]

Welcome to TO (T Dot) the 6. Good time to move, the Leafs, Raptors are good and TFC will be good again. (if you are a soccer fan).

To be safe start with agencies and look at reviews on Terb. (also review your self after).

Most agencies have options in Mississauga so that won't be a problem.

Try to read ladies profiles and check out on twitter to see a little of personality and interact with.

Note: Many lovely and friendly choices available. Anal is referred to as "greek" and usually costs extra and ladies like to be prepared.

Thank you for your reply. I have checked many reviews and yes will go for any agency, if possible for you can you please let me know if there is any particular agency which I should try first, I will really appreciate if you or any senior member can help me out in choosing my first agency. Thank you.

[JHappyDog]

Welcome to TO (T Dot) the 6. Good time to move, the Leafs, Raptors are good and TFC will be good again. (if you are a soccer fan).

To be safe start with agencies and look at reviews on Terb. (also review your self after).

Most agencies have options in Mississauga so that won't be a problem.

Try to read ladies profiles and check out on twitter to see a little of personality and interact with.

Note: Many lovely and friendly choices available. Anal is referred to as "greek" and usually costs extra and ladies like to be prepared.

Hi all,
I recently shifted from India to Mississauga. I am a regular member of India forum, and I am really looking forward to start my mongering Carrier in Mississauga. Can someone senior please let me know from where I can start, I have gone though some of the pages of Toronto section but I am unable to decide from where should I start, I am looking for a GFE experience with some anal action. Thank you guys I really appreciate any help provided and will reciprocate the same in near future. Thank you.

[MeddyAvi]

Hi all,

I recently shifted from India to Mississauga. I am a regular member of India forum, and I am really looking forward to start my mongering Carrier in Mississauga. Can someone senior please let me know from where I can start, I have gone though some of the pages of Toronto section but I am unable to decide from where should I start, I am looking for a GFE experience with some anal action. Thank you guys I really appreciate any help provided and will reciprocate the same in near future. Thank you.

[Rishselby]

Hello guys,

I am new to ISG and Toronto (recently moved from Sweden). I have gone through many posts on this forum and happy to see everyone helping and sharing their experiences. I am trying to understand the mongering culture here and looking for any tips and contact of MPs in Sauga. Also, If anyone can give a feedback about independent therapists in Sauga.

Thanks!

[Rishselby]

Hello guys,

I'm new to ISG and Toronto (recently moved from Sweden). I have been reading a lot many posts on this forum and am happy to see everyone helping and sharing their experiences. I am trying to understand mongering culture here, especially in Sauga, so looking for some tips and contacts of good MPs in Sauga.

Also, what's better and safe: known MPs or Independent therapists (saw some on Leolist)?

Thanks.

[Kintaro18]

I had a good session with curly haired blonde at Garden of Eden. Years ago I had really good experiences at Garden of Eden and in Toronto in general. The numerous escort agencies in Toronto used to have a good selection of hot women at any time. But lately there has been a lot of bait and switch. Hot pics of women online, and dogs when you show up to the door. And they hide behind the door when they let you in even though you're going to see them in about 2 seconds, like you can't walk away and cancel it then.

Even the reputable agencies do bait and switch. I've walked out on ugly girls at garden of Eden, toronto passions, and this other place. All 3 agencies texted me after I left and asked "what happened" and said I owe them a cancellation fee. There's no way I would pay for someone else lying to me. Plus whether it's be&s or not, if the girl is unattractive, I have every right to leave without paying anything anyway. Most online escorts won't show their face online, so usually you can't see that until you arrive anyway.

[Mongerer88]

I'd really appreciate some INTEL on this Asian Sexy Babes place. The providers look almost too good to be true and being an out of towner, I want to use my time wisely! Will report my experience. Thank you!

Here are some comments from experienced posters on the local www.terb.cc board regarding Asian Sexy Babes, commonly abbreviated ASB.

"I've always liked ASB. I find the pictures "somewhat" close to their actual appearance. I only try to book the girls that are VIP (E. G. , Lemon, Solar, Amy, Roxy, etc.) as usually there's a reason they're priced higher. ".

"I have only seen ASB gals for the longest time when in YYZ for this same reason. It is a pleasure and a very pleasant interaction when doing business with VIVI and her colleagues on the phone or via SMS. With BH and PG, I have had good experiences in the past as well, but I am pretty much all ASB in my limited time I have in YYZ travels. So definitely not fair to lump all of them together with the likes of MW or others, but I do know even ASB has their faults as well, just not as egregious in my eyes as others. It has been very expensive, and rewarding, in finding out which agencies are best suited for my "needs".

"Because an agency like ASB have high quality Asian women working for them and this results in them having a very good reputation, especially for those looking for Asian agency women. Reviews are balanced and fair and you will rarely see the owner of an Asian agency come on Terb insulting a client like some owners do. As well, I have yet to see an SP from an Asian agency say anything on Terb, good or bad. I have to agree about the photos but that is why reviews are very important. Also, the booker is always willing to do her best to ensure the woman is a good fit for the client. You just have to ask her questions. ".

"Customer service is also very important to them and that is one area where you will rarely see ASB lacking. Yes, their screening has become a bit tougher but there has been an increase in women working in Asian agencies getting robbed and assaulted. All they are doing is trying to provide some additional screening in place to protect the women, I am sure you can understand that. ASB also allows existing client referrals as well if you don't meet their main requirement of being a review member for one year with numerous posts and / reviews. ".

So they are legitimate. Beyond that I don't know. Unlike the Montreal forum on ISG, there are not a lot of ISG posters who review Asian ladies here on ISG, so it will be appreciated if you are the first.

[JohnMason1]

I'm going to be in Toronto for a conference and ran across Asian Sexy Babes on a listing board. Has anyone used their services?

I'd really appreciate some INTEL on this Asian Sexy Babes place. The providers look almost too good to be true and being an out of towner, I want to use my time wisely! Will report my experience. Thank you!

[Mongerer88]

Just to clarify, I was responding to the specific comment that Vegas is an "adult Disneyland". I have no experience of sex work in other cities in the USA And was not making any reference to them. But if you are looking at $500 to $700 per hour in Vegas, you have to go through a screening process, and you run a risk of a police sting operation if you approach what appears to be a sex worker in a hotel or casino, then I would again state that I find it hard to believe that anyone could consider Vegas to be some sort of hobbying paradise. You mentioned "ridiculous cost" twice (about hotels and girls) when referring to Vegas, so I think we are in agreement on the particular point that I was making?

We owe one another accurate information, not hypotheticals.

We do it with Canada by relaying the police pronouncements regarding their enforcement under C-36. You wouldn't like it if someone posted that the Toronto police will bust down any hotel door they see a pretty girl entering where the room is registered to a man. It wouldn't be accurate.

The Las Vegas stings are streetwalker decoys completely away from the casinos. In the Backpage days there was the occasional fake ad taken out by the police, usually with obvious language and explicit follow-up texts, and an arrest once the guy went to a low-rent motel and encountered all policemen. Those were actually rare in Las Vegas compared to the rest of the country.

There was one instance where a policewoman sat at a bar at Mandalay Bay and arrested solicitors like 25 years ago when the place was open but still being finished. It was a big deal because the casinos felt it violated an understanding of separation between the casino security and the local police, according to a lady I know who really follows this stuff. Presumably the Mandalay Bay didn't provide good enough premium police parking or something. I haven't ever heard of it happening again anywhere in a casino. Picking up "casino girls" is a big part of the scene for many guys. It is less expensive than top-notch escorts, but not my scene because a lot of the casino girls are one shot and done, and relatively more of them are CBJ instead of BBBJ. But I know guys who like the unknown and are willing to take the good with the bad. The enforcement with respect to "casino girls" is that if casino security doesn't like them, they get banned from the hotel.

[Whinger]

You gave plenty of good advice and accurate observations, then you did exactly what you criticized him for doing.

Just to clarify, I was responding to the specific comment that Vegas is an "adult Disneyland". I have no experience of sex work in other cities in the USA And was not making any reference to them. But if you are looking at $500 to $700 per hour in Vegas, you have to go through a screening process, and you run a risk of a police sting operation if you approach what appears to be a sex worker in a hotel or casino, then I would again state that I find it hard to believe that anyone could consider Vegas to be some sort of hobbying paradise. You mentioned "ridiculous cost" twice (about hotels and girls) when referring to Vegas, so I think we are in agreement on the particular point that I was making?

[ScrewMachine]

Anyway, my point is that you get information about an actual place and make decisions. With good information, and excluding travel costs and time, I think that Europe represents the best value of the three locations. I can get truly top-notch service in much of Europe for 100-150 euros an hour, with the availability of half-hour incall sessions in many places at half that cost. I need to add 25% to that to convert it to US dollars. For Canada, depending on the price differences between Montreal and Toronto, it will cost me 200 to 350 Canadian dollars to get what I want from who I want it from. But I get to subtract 25% from that amount to convert it to dollars.

Thanks for the information. I travel to Europe frequently on corp. Dime, mainly to Germany and UK. I will RTFF the hell out of those forums before the next visit. I agree with you that having accurate information makes a difference in the type of experience you get and most likely I am not using all the available information in making choices in Europe.

[Mongerer88]

Your report on the girls you met was very helpful, thank you for that, but while I do not mean to be rude, I take issue with all of the above comments in your post.

"Ripoff experience in Europe"?

What a sweeping generalisation, as you can see from the thousands of Europe field reports in this forum the many countries in Europe have an unrivalled range of providers, services and costs. I can only see one post that you have made relating to Europe, with a Czech girl who you seemed to think highly of? Perhaps this is just indicative of many Americans having no understanding that there is a whole world outside the United States, and despite American paranoia, most people in the world are not out to "get" Americans..

You gave plenty of good advice and accurate observations, then you did exactly what you criticized him for doing.

The legal places in Nevada are in fact an expensive and clinical rip-off.

At lower cost levels, everywhere in the US has law enforcement dangers and the possibility of getting rolled.

However, Vegas has an excellent system of independents, and one reputable agency, who screen heavily and often charge $500-$700 an hour. While that is a truly ridiculous cost, the looks, age and service levels (BBBJ, CIM, Greek, Multiples in the hour, fetish, etc.) are the same as in Europe, Canada and Vegas. I know this because I monger in all three places.

Vegas is ridiculously expensive, but a lot of guys travel there on the corporate dime, so their comparison is the high cost of a US escort versus travel costs plus the much lower cost of an escort abroad.

As far as law enforcement goes, there is simply no activity in Vegas directed at ladies working independently who screen. There is a lot of activity directed at the lower-cost providers and groups perceived as working as an organization. But law-enforcement has never generally targeted customers in Vegas. The screening is in place to make sure you are not a cop and to make sure she isn't, either. It is intrusive and uncomfortable for guys unaccustomed to it, but it works.

Keep in mind that you can't stereotype all the US as one place. Phoenix is a hot bead of law-enforcement activity and the names of customers of one agency were in fact published online. But law enforcement regarding prostitution at the john / sex worker level is at the state level, so what happens in one state really has nothing to do with another state. In fact, the actual laws differ from state to state. Arizona and surprisingly Alaska are the only states that do not respect that screening is very beneficial for the safety of everyone, and which have a history of using screening information to the detriment of the parties. Vegas is pretty dedicated to "What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas", so a customer doesn't have much to worry about if screening occurs.

Anyway, my point is that you get information about an actual place and make decisions. With good information, and excluding travel costs and time, I think that Europe represents the best value of the three locations. I can get truly top-notch service in much of Europe for 100-150 euros an hour, with the availability of half-hour incall sessions in many places at half that cost. I need to add 25% to that to convert it to US dollars. For Canada, depending on the price differences between Montreal and Toronto, it will cost me 200 to 350 Canadian dollars to get what I want from who I want it from. But I get to subtract 25% from that amount to convert it to dollars.

As I said, for Vegas I am looking at at least $500 or more to get the same thing from the same level of provider, and there are screening hassles. But I can get it and not worry about it. That is Vegas. I wouldn't do the same thing in Phoenix, Arizona because I would have more worries about law enforcement and what might happen to screening data if uncovered in an investigation.

ISG is all about information and we owe it to each other to convey what we know. I don't know what caused the poster to classify Europe as a rip-off. I know with respect to Prague, I sent one polite email to an advertiser in English and received a price quote of 1,000 euros, which I politely declined. I used a group in Prague, and saw one independent, who charged in the 150 to 200 euro range per hour for what I wanted. So I can see how a person not doing research could get ripped off. I realize even that is on the high-end of Prague pricing, but it was for sessions with a lot of "upsell" activities. One of my points is that you can't stereotype Europe, either. Germany, Spain and Portugal are less expensive for the exact same thing from the exact same type of lady than the Czech Republic or the United Kingdom is.

But some of us end up in different places either by necessity or non-mongering choice, so accurate information is necessary to make good choices. Just like the same Big Mac sandwich costs a different amount in each location, so does the exact same sex act with a similar lady. And unfortunately the delivery mechanism is different with sex, so you can't just go up to the counter and order a "Big Mac" everywhere when it comes to sex.

[DavePhx]

Tip.
How many times must it be repeated, when Americans tip where this is not the local culture, all you are doing is screwing things up for everyone else.

Vegas.
Vegas is one of the biggest ripoffs in the world,

Very good comments. In 15+years of enjoying Canada's adult freedoms mostly in Toronto area but also Niagara, Hamilton and Victoria I have never tipped an escort or adult body rub gal. This tipping is an American thing or guys that want to be big shots or can afford to toss money around. It is simply not necessary or expected. These gals are not minimum wage restaurant workers but probably make more than you on an hourly basis.

Correction - I slipped up by saying when Americans tip and American thing. I often correct folks that say this and then I just did. Canada is part of America as is Mexico etc. So I should have said its a U.S. thing

Worse than Vegas are the legal pimp houses of Nevada. The big pimp who recently died is a very nice generous person who I've met with in Phoenix and was very helpful in a recent court case here. However, he was a self-serving pimp master who wanted to save us from sex trafficking by opening his pimp houses all over including in Phoenix for the last Superbowl. He offered his pimp services to the City who of course laughed at him. BTW, he grew up in the Phoenix area. After his recent death have no idea who will take over.