Montreal

[DontMindMe11]

Yeah grandfathers are loyal Like dogs So they keep coming backTo the girl. Grandfathers have enough trust And know how to negotiate, If she is going to say no Then don't even ask. Grandfathers know how to develop a business friendship with the girl. She has to be okay with spending time with you, not just sex. Doesn't work if you want to see a different girl every time. First hour cost $300 for skilled sex. 2nd hour was just talking so it has to cost less. Just find the girl that will tell you these things herself so you don't have to bargain Nor negotiate.

To all the doubters and critical thinkers, I'm just telling you something that is true. Instead of trying to prove me wrong Or dismissing me, figure out how you can make it happen. Try it for yourself. And only if you're Wise enough to be like a grandfather.Doesn't work all the times. Don't be discouraged. Of course not everyone wants to be a grandfather.

Cersei isReally hot LOL.

Multi-hour sessions are so overrated. Usually as soon as I bust the first nut, I'm already planning my exit. I would rather have an action packed 1 hour session than a multi-hour where I'm paying the girl to have a chat.

[Member #4665]

Grandfather rate is only benficial if the client brings in more business because of it. A new cient would almost never get a grandfather rate because he'll probably be blocked before he can propose something or another.

Anyway, I will probably pay Cersei a cisit in July.

Yeah grandfathers are loyal Like dogs So they keep coming backTo the girl. Grandfathers have enough trust And know how to negotiate, If she is going to say no Then don't even ask. Grandfathers know how to develop a business friendship with the girl. She has to be okay with spending time with you, not just sex. Doesn't work if you want to see a different girl every time. First hour cost $300 for skilled sex. 2nd hour was just talking so it has to cost less. Just find the girl that will tell you these things herself so you don't have to bargain Nor negotiate.

To all the doubters and critical thinkers, I'm just telling you something that is true. Instead of trying to prove me wrong Or dismissing me, figure out how you can make it happen. Try it for yourself. And only if you're Wise enough to be like a grandfather.Doesn't work all the times. Don't be discouraged. Of course not everyone wants to be a grandfather.

Cersei isReally hot LOL.

[MtlLocal]

See, I told you. Grandfather rateS.

Well maybe the Independent rate should not be lower but the same as the agencies. Okay so they Hopefully can pay their rent with the money they aren't giving the agency. Most guys would probably go for the agency girl because it's more affordable. Take a look at the products on Amazon, the lower price wins practically every time. It's not about me. Independent providers are losing their customers just for charging more than the agencies.



The other day my priest told me to get creative. So if one client cancels on an independent provider. Next time she should wise up and book tWo clients for the same hour. If both clients show up they can just have a threesome. My priest. What a fng genius. He should get married.

I'd never pay for a 2 hour booking where the overall hourly isn't lower. I. E. She has an hourly rate of $300, but her 2 hour rate is $600 won't ever get my business. I've only ever booked 3 hours once, and probably never again. Right now, I do agree girls are losing business like mine by having these static hourly rates. They only seem to be dropping it at the 3 hour mark or more.

Grandfather rate is only benficial if the client brings in more business because of it. A new cient would almost never get a grandfather rate because he'll probably be blocked before he can propose something or another.

Anyway, I will probably pay Cersei a cisit in July.

[PCode80]

With Lola's figure I would suggest you Annabelle https://twitter.com/rose_anna_belle And she is awesome. Have not seen her yet but I have good intel on her.

From the one that are working now the one I would see in a heartbeat are:

XO: ELLY, Priscilla.

Euphoria: Annabelle, Amanda, Candice, heaven, Khloe, Marylin and Ruby.

Thanks, I am copying your list haha, although I have seen some of them in the past.

Yeah I have seen Annabelle. She's very toned and I feel she is more down-to-earth than LolaTheBrat, not that there is anything wrong with Lola. It's just the way she carries herself is a bit less energetic, which worked for me.

[PCode80]

LOL.

I've had my fancy for ysabella at vog. Tall, slender. But more to the point anyone with a 32" chest or (under), with 5'8" (and above) is nearing the realm of model frame. This is near Brats zone.

But as you can see where brat is rather modest up top in the cup, which is often the case w / slender frames, ysabella is no exception too, but she has paid for hers.

Looks like a fine job as any, at least on the agency photos. But too pronounced still, if I had to complain. Maybe she's thinks she will grow into it by the time she's 26-27, but whatever.

Yeah, I see what you mean. She's on my list as well. Tried to see her last time I was there but she wasn't around. Well if she's still around when I am there later this summer, I'll report back to this group.

[Questner]

Good posts, Frank11 You've asked where those men lived, on Saturn. Actually, as per Austin Powers movie they live 'on Uranus'.

[Chubzy Maximus]

Anyone see her yet?

[PCode80]

Mon frre, I'm surprised you have seen Emma, Gaia / Luna and April. You said you prefer the slim / slender girls. You must have a penchant for big naturals on occasion.

Lola would be a good choice for you. She seems like a blast. She might be a bit skinny for me, but I like her face (the glimpses I see) and hair.

Who's this Paril you speak of?

Sorry that's a typo. I meant "April".

[Kabukicho]

I propose we go back to discussing what's Montreal can offer so that I (selfishly) can make notes for my late summer / fall visit. Would anyone care to recommend someone to see who is active and close to LolaTheBrat's physical figure? I can tell you I've met the following ladies in the past (some of these go as far as 3 years ago, haha):

LOL.

I've had my fancy for ysabella at vog. Tall, slender. But more to the point anyone with a 32" chest or (under), with 5'8" (and above) is nearing the realm of model frame. This is near Brats zone.

But as you can see where brat is rather modest up top in the cup, which is often the case w / slender frames, ysabella is no exception too, but she has paid for hers.

Looks like a fine job as any, at least on the agency photos. But too pronounced still, if I had to complain. Maybe she's thinks she will grow into it by the time she's 26-27, but whatever.

[Jalimon2]

Yeah maybe we should stop talking and arguing about rates. I mean, it is what it is, it's working and it's hard to argue with something that works. And to each their own.

I propose we go back to discussing what's Montreal can offer so that I (selfishly) can make notes for my late summer / fall visit. Would anyone care to recommend someone to see who is active and close to LolaTheBrat's physical figure? I can tell you I've met the following ladies in the past (some of these go as far as 3 years ago, haha):

Vogue. Audry, Jade.

Velvet. Arielle.

Euphoria. Anna, Amanda, Katia, Annabelle, Erika, Heaven, Kiara.

XO. Dasha, Lana, Anastasia, Elisa.

I think you can still find the reviews of that I posted on the green board.

With Lola's figure I would suggest you Annabelle https://twitter.com/rose_anna_belle And she is awesome. Have not seen her yet but I have good intel on her.

From the one that are working now the one I would see in a heartbeat are:

XO: ELLY, Priscilla.

Euphoria: Annabelle, Amanda, Candice, heaven, Khloe, Marylin and Ruby.

[Jalimon2]

Jalimon, If you are so experienced Then I don't believe you would pay 1060 for 3 hours. Sorry, but I'm going to call you out on that. I'm telling you from experience The prices advertised For the top girls, if you know how to negotiate with leverage, are different from the real prices, At least Sometimes and Only for some locals. It depends sometimes the advertised prices are Actually correct.

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Plus, to be honest 90% of the times I wouldn't even be interested in having sex 3 hours straight. Also I think it's true what someone said, sometimes a girl may feel uncomfortable making a long booking with someone she doesn't know.

I am a special case I never do more than one hour. I never go for high price indy. The only thing I have done is multiple partner session with many girl. Where the girl got their regular hourly rate. I have met many girl this way. And we would always finish the night in a restaurant (where no social time was paid, only food / bar bill). Last one was last summer so it's been a while. But it was epic! 4 dudes 5 girls grrrr.

I have only succeed a few times with particular girl to extend a one hour session to a restaurant where again I only pay for food / booze. Tried with many others but received a no pay no go haha.

I am one who think, beside very few exception, there is absolutely no difference in service from a 220/240 reputable agency then from a 500/ hour indy.

There is enough fish in Montreal at every rate to stop talking rate.

[WyattEarp]

Yeah she's still on my list haha. I really like her demeanor and she was very good. Have you seen Emma from XO? I personally didn't think she's all that but I make a mention of this because she's got similar body type as Paril, just as pretty and apparently a lot of folks have voiced very positive reviews.

Mon frère, I'm surprised you have seen Emma, Gaia / Luna and April. You said you prefer the slim / slender girls. You must have a penchant for big naturals on occasion.

Lola would be a good choice for you. She seems like a blast. She might be a bit skinny for me, but I like her face (the glimpses I see) and hair.

Who's this Paril you speak of?

[Member #4665]

Totally with you on this. These girls have other things to do then hanging out with you unless you pay full rate.

Via Twitter DM Lolathebrat asked me to bring extra 60 $ for her on top of XO rate. She wrote "you will see why I will deserve the extra gratification."

What a brat! But she was totally right. I so much hope she will get back soon!

you need leverage to negotiate. What does leverage probably mean in this case? obviously leverage means money. So another words if you make a good contract where she's making a lot of money that can be used to receive more Time for the amount of money you offered her.You will not receive a discount if you're going to then go and spend your discount On another girl.

I would never negotiate through private messages. Plus I don't need to be rude And offer something she would not like. I would just wait to see what rates she offers me. I could politely say What sort of deal I expected. And then I would take her offer or leave it politely.

Most men here are working hard Their whole life. They probably don't make more than $100-$200 a day. They wouldn't pay 1060 for 3 hours. Why such inequality? So you would work 5 to 10 days (8 Times 10 = 80 hours) and spend it in 3 hours.

Jalimon, If you are so experienced Then I don't believe you would pay 1060 for 3 hours. Sorry, but I'm going to call you out on that. I'm telling you from experience The prices advertised For the top girls, if you know how to negotiate with leverage, are different from the real prices, At least Sometimes and Only for some locals. It depends sometimes the advertised prices areActually correct.

It's funny how it seems experienced mongers are trying to hide and lie about this obvious fact. And yes be careful with your money because you will find people who think you're dumb enough to pay 1500 for 4 hours. Just keep looking and you'll find most of these girls are down to earth when it comes to money. The girls themselves will make you a good offer. And a lot of them will feel bad if they are taking money from you that they don't deserve so much they will turn your payment down or return your money.The girls want you to keep coming back, they don't want you go broke.

Plus, to be honest 90% of the times I wouldn't even be interested in having sex 3 hours straight. Also I think it's true what someone said, sometimes a girl may feel uncomfortable making a long booking with someone she doesn't know.

[PCode80]

Totally with you on this. These girls have other things to do then hanging out with you unless you pay full rate.

Via Twitter DM Lolathebrat asked me to bring extra 60 $ for her on top of XO rate. She wrote "you will see why I will deserve the extra gratification."

What a brat! But she was totally right. I so much hope she will get back soon!

Yeah maybe we should stop talking and arguing about rates. I mean, it is what it is, it's working and it's hard to argue with something that works. And to each their own.

I propose we go back to discussing what's Montreal can offer so that I (selfishly) can make notes for my late summer / fall visit. Would anyone care to recommend someone to see who is active and close to LolaTheBrat's physical figure? I can tell you I've met the following ladies in the past (some of these go as far as 3 years ago, haha):

Vogue. Audry, Jade.

Velvet. Arielle.

Euphoria. Anna, Amanda, Katia, Annabelle, Erika, Heaven, Kiara.

XO. Dasha, Lana, Anastasia, Elisa.

I think you can still find the reviews of that I posted on the green board.

[PCode80]

There is something some of the experienced Montral members don't understand. When a girl works as an independent her rates have to be lower or the same than the agency rates. This is called cutting out the middleman in business. For example you can buy affordable products made in China from Amazon, or you can buy them directly from China at a lower price. If you're familiar with international import export business.

When you deal directly with the escort the prices are lower because she doesn't have to pay for the room the agency is renting her. Of course some people prefer to use the agency because they don't have an apartment where they can receive the escort or because then they'd have to rent a hotel room. Also to certain degree the agency guarantees quality reliability and safety..

I think, as I was trying to say before, the reason they charge higher prices as indy is because they are probably asked / requested to charge higher prices by the agency they work with so that the agency can remain competitive. If they charge the same or lower, then that may remove the agency as the middleman entirely as you said. I mean, I am sure they can, and I hazard a guess that if it has been discovered that they charge the same or lower rate than agency, the agency might let them go (or maybe charge lower rate at the agency themselves but that would set an undesired precedence). In other words, I do not think the intent of going indy for them is to cut off the agency entirely. I actually think this is a good move for everyone from the business sense.

Also, as you said, even if the main mentality in this situation is "why would I pay for indy rate over agency rate for the same service", well the answer is at least the option is there in case one isn't able to get time within the agency hours. Example, maybe you want to book the girl weeks or months ahead of time. Agencies don't do that so you book through the indy channel. So yeah, for the Montreal dwellers the indiy rates don't make much sense but for myself who only visit every now and then, I appreciate having the option.

I do agree the math become undesirable when it comes to multiple hours. However, its probably something they'll figure out as well. Who knows, maybe girls don't really want multi hours generally.