Montreal

[Jalimon2]

What are people's thoughts on leolist? I found a great girl on there this afternoon. Really huge tits, G cups, super big. She let me titty fuck them and have fun with them for an hour today. I was able to negotiate down to $160 an hour. It was a good session so I rebooked her for tomorrow morning, but this time 90 minutes at $220. I'm starting to really like leolist. There are a lot of girls on there and potential for some great finds. I like working directly with the girl and texting her. Plus I find that you can negotiate some really great prices. It's very flexible since you are working 1 on 1 with the girl and she is probably a more amateur provider / normal girl. You can knock off 10-15% off the "sticker" price in some cases. It reminds me of Tijuana Mexico, a lot of people would go right into the clubs and fuck the girls in there. I did that too, but I much prefer the street girls. Why? Well the main reason is because they are super cheap. Like $20 USD for 20 minutes. You can basically get an hour for $60 USD. It's really really cheap with street girls. The street girls aren't ugly too. You can find some really hot girls like 8/10 if you keep looking and stay on the lookout. That's why I like the street so much. It's more effort and screening, but in the end you find much better deals, save more money, and have a good time.

I am mostly a independent guy. Only went 4 times in agency in 2019 so far. And really pretty much for the same reason you wrote (but I never tried to negotiate the first meet up, I wait for a repeat).

But I would never ever suggest Leolist or AI or Hump or 123 to any outside visitors. Those ad site are filled with 95% bait. You got lucky but continue and you will see what I mean These independent web add sites are for hard core locals. And still most local I know never bother they prefer to pay a bit more the agency way.

Cheers.

[Jalimon2]

What type of men prefer the independent women? Without criticizing anyone, some of the independent girls have higher prices so exactly who is going to pay more and For what reasons? Plus the independent girls get to keep the entire payment. As opposed to the escort girls who have to split it with the agency. If the independent girls keep all the money then For which reasons do they feel the need to charge more? Unless there is a good explanation, it just seems From a certain point of view like The independents are stepping on their own feet.

In some situations it would just be better for the girl to Make friends With the guy so they can spend more time Together or have more sessions instead of trying to balloon raise the prices. Anyways, it's never about the money. People should just focus more on providing a quality creative service only then will they get ahead of themselves.

Hum sorry but it's all about the money if offer and demand. Period. It's not all girl that want to work a lot. I know of some girl who are happy to grab 2-3 fish per month at 500 $ hour. I do have some rebate on some independent who agreed to see me at fixed lower price. But that is because I asked frankly. Some hesitate or don't answer so I take this as a no. Most agreed.

Also Twitter helps to bring more high price independent. It's free and easy marketing / networking.

[TerOnlyOnce]

What are people's thoughts on leolist? I found a great girl on there this afternoon. Really huge tits, G cups, super big. She let me titty fuck them and have fun with them for an hour today. I was able to negotiate down to $160 an hour. It was a good session so I rebooked her for tomorrow morning, but this time 90 minutes at $220. I'm starting to really like leolist. There are a lot of girls on there and potential for some great finds. I like working directly with the girl and texting her. Plus I find that you can negotiate some really great prices. It's very flexible since you are working 1 on 1 with the girl and she is probably a more amateur provider / normal girl. You can knock off 10-15% off the "sticker" price in some cases. It reminds me of Tijuana Mexico, a lot of people would go right into the clubs and fuck the girls in there. I did that too, but I much prefer the street girls. Why? Well the main reason is because they are super cheap. Like $20 USD for 20 minutes. You can basically get an hour for $60 USD. It's really really cheap with street girls. The street girls aren't ugly too. You can find some really hot girls like 8/10 if you keep looking and stay on the lookout. That's why I like the street so much. It's more effort and screening, but in the end you find much better deals, save more money, and have a good time.

[Mongerer88]

What type of men prefer the independent women? Without criticizing anyone, some of the independent girls have higher prices so exactly who is going to pay more and For what reasons? Plus the independent girls get to keep the entire payment. As opposed to the escort girls who have to split it with the agency. If the independent girls keep all the money then For which reasons do they feel the need to charge more? Unless there is a good explanation, it just seems From a certain point of view like The independents are stepping on their own feet.

In some situations it would just be better for the girl to Make friends With the guy so they can spend more time Together or have more sessions instead of trying to balloon raise the prices. Anyways, it's never about the money. People should just focus more on providing a quality creative service only then will they get ahead of themselves.

Most independents have shared trick pads for incall, and there are fewer overall transactions in that incall to spread the costs among.

Their advertising costs are significant, as they usually maintain their own websites and pay a photographer.

They usually Uber to outcalls, which is more expensive than the agency "carpool".

And most have a separate work smartphone for calls, emails, and to do basic screening and security.

Those costs are borne by the agency and spread among the agency ladies by the agency taking a "cut".

Not sure that most independents don't have a higher "overhead" fee per session than agency girls do. And it isn't an upfront fee an agency lady.

[TerOnlyOnce]

So far my trip has been good. I saw Amira from vogue earlier today. She is a very nice girl. If anyone is on the fence about her I would go see her. She is nice and ensures that you will have a good time. Reminds me of girls that I would normally get in real life. Very laid back, a bit quiet, and goes with the flow. She is good, I recommend.

I booked a girl from leolist and she should be arriving shortly. I had to cancel a booking from xo escorts, 4 hours notice. I feel bad but things turned out differently for me. I'm sure there are cancellations. In fact, the 2nd vogue girl I booked canceled on me today which worked out since I discovered that leolist has some pretty solid girls on there. A lot of junk but if you sift through it you can find some solid pictures. One girl has G cup tits that is coming to my hotel in an hour. I am excited about that. I'm hoping the pictures are accurate and she is a nice girl.

Overall paying for sex is a different experience. I'm use to meeting girls out on a date, chatting and vibing, and then bringing them back to my apartment to fuck them, then venmo them some money. This is my standard routine for girls that I meet on sugar daddy websites. Here it's a bit different, of course it's a direct transaction and it's timed, so psychologically that can fuck with you a bit during the session. Plus there's the question of: are the girls somewhat enjoying the session or is 90% of their focus on making money, going through it, and then heading home. It's all very psychological and it doesn't help to think so deeply on it.

I will say that I enjoy both paying directly for sex, and putting in the work to actually earn the girl. Both have their benefits and downsides. Getting exactly the girl you want is nice and can be fun. But there is a different kind of fun when you actually earn the girl and see that she wants to be horny for you and fuck you. I've had both experiences, there's definitely a marked difference. I guess it all comes down to chemistry, but again both aspects have their advantages and disadvantages.

[Member #4665]

What type of men prefer the independent women? Without criticizing anyone, some of the independent girls have higher prices so exactly who is going to pay more and For what reasons? Plus the independent girls get to keep the entire payment. As opposed to the escort girls who have to split it with the agency. If the independent girls keep all the money then For which reasons do they feel the need to charge more? Unless there is a good explanation, it just seems From a certain point of view like The independents are stepping on their own feet.

In some situations it would just be better for the girl to Make friends With the guy so they can spend more time Together or have more sessions instead of trying to balloon raise the prices. Anyways, it's never about the money. People should just focus more on providing a quality creative service only then will they get ahead of themselves.

[TerOnlyOnce]

Hi everyone. First I just want to apologize for my posts earlier. I was honestly very new to the process and got a little disappointed and got carried away. The process is not that bad. Usually on the day before the schedule is somewhat rounded out so I would recommend booking the night before. I enjoyed my first night here yesterday and I saw one girl. The experience with her was not too good as I will review below. I also want to mention that I did try to book an indy that I found from https://www.indycompanion.com/. I was texting with her and found out she requires a deposit. I didn't see the point to pay it when vogue and xo will let me book with no problems and no deposit, so I passed on the indy. Plus, she was actually a bit more expensive then the agencies, $250 CAD.

Now for the review: I saw Tara from XXXtase and she was not that great. I just want to say that I went into this very objectively and have communicated with the agencies and girl thus far in a very down to earth and casual way. I do have some courtesy and for the most part am not a loud idiot. That being said, I personally did not enjoy my session with Tara to the best extent. Yes she has huge titties which is why I was excited to book her. They are very big, one tit is almost as big as the size of your head if you are into that. They are fake tits. It was all great and I got to titty fuck her for sometime, but in general she didn't have a solid attitude towards the session. She didn't allow any kissing and no BBBJ. I was surprised, thought BBBJ was the standard? She also didn't take her pants off during the session. I was mainly there to titty fuck her huge tits which is what I wanted and got to do. But there was not even an offer or gesture towards sex. In fact, she was actually encouraging me to cum after 10 minutes in the session.

Tara from XXXtase in a terrible provider. I highly recommend to avoid her if you want to save your money. I really feel that I should put this up there and make this public. Some guys would really benefit to know this information. Let me be the Guinea pig, let me take one for the team and waste my money for you, and give you the information so you don't have to find out yourself. She is awful. Yes her tits are huge, but really you won't be able to enjoy them as much as you would like. You can tell she has restrictions. It was so awkward because I wanted to do more, I wanted to really enjoy her tits, but I knew she wouldn't let me. And when I did try to enjoy them, she backed off towards the end. She does not want to please you, she does not care about that or you, she just wants to deliver sub par experience, and leave. She complained a lot about me rubbing her tits. She complains to me and says she hates it when people touch her tits!

Half way into the session, she wouldn't let me titty fuck her anymore and told me I could jerk off to her tits as she put them in my face. She has huge tits but she doesn't like to use them very much. Again, she says she hates it when guys touch her tits. If you like huge tits guys, she is not the one for you. Way too many restrictions, isn't interested in ensuring your desires are met, just wants you to cum quickly so she can leave. In fact, she actually left 12 minutes early. This was a problem in tijuana as well, girls leaving early. I mean, honestly it worked out cause I was able to make it to this restaurant before it closed. But in general, she was really bad. I wonder if most girls leave 10-15 minutes early? Yes I track the time each session starts. I wish the girls would just uphold their commitment and stay and deliver.

Another thing, she ate some of the stuff I had in my hotel room without asking me first. And she used a lot of my lube, like gushing tons of it. It's interesting, I paid her $200 CAD and this is how she treats me? This is how she treats clients? I know as a client I have to be respectful and courtesy as well, but for christ sake I'm paying her $200 CAD. I should be able to get an experience that I really like and really am into.

In short, I would not see her ever again, and recommend others to not see her either. I will be compiling a list of reviews, mainly bad reviews and will be posting them on here and maybe merb down the line. This list will serve as a guide for the providers that you should avoid and not see again. Even if you don't agree with the list I would still read it just to be informed.

I have 3 girls I will see today. 2 vogue and 1 xo. I'm planning 1 more xo girl tomorrow afternoon. Hopefully it all goes well.

[HungryStud101]

Hey all,

Last time I was 20 years ago and the memory that is etched into my brain is of the Grand Prix club in Richelieu (where you walked in and porn was on all the TV's and the dancers were the hottest chicks on the planet. I shed a tear when I found out it closed down but now that I'm heading back up I was wondering, how does the Bar LE Gentlemen compare? Close? Worth a stop? Let me know what you think.

Thanks,

Dupplehouse.

My first trip to Montreal was 2001 and I made a visit to the Grand Prix and loved it. I haven't been to LeGentlemen in years but it is a lot like the Grand Prix. I do escorts these days. The service is a lot better with Montreal escorts but I have to say that I enjoyed my visits to both these places. I think that LeGentlemen (as I remember) was just a half a step down from Grand Prix. But Nostelgia is a seductive liar. I'll never forget how beautiful the woman were. Only my first visit to FKK Oase would beat that feeling.

[Mongerer88]

Type indycompanion twitter. You should see many thick or non skinny girls this way throughout Canada.

Personally, I feel like booking were easier prior to Mike's Mansuon being absorbed. Maybe it's just everything has reached a sort of peak polularity. Someone on the green mentioned more indepedants advetising than ever, and indpedants being strictly on twitter and no where else. The only lady I'm seeing right now is one of those people, actually. In any event, I don't think you can call a list of who is available that day relative to the full list of employees at an agency false advertising. Everyone has their own schedule and life to live.

For advance booking of anyone popular, I would say give-up because those girls have local regulars who fill that spot. Last minute is all tou would get with them, if you're lucy. The heart of winter is ideal for that, since even if we're use to the cold, it can still stifle our urges to go out.

He was advised many pages ago that certain independents would best fit what he was interested in as far as body type goes, but he said they were way too expensive and somehow uppity for having their own fancy websites.

[Bsizzle123]

I think December is a great time to visit Montreal. I went last year and got to see some popular girls who I was unable to see in summer because they were booked solid. And I booked them on the same day without any problem. Frankly there are so many nice girls, you won't have a problem booking a nice one the same day in December. But I would avoid Christmas and Boxing day.

Hotel rates are much lower in December. Using one of the online discount hotel services, you should be able to get a 4 star hotel for under $100 a night. And there are plenty of other activities. Fireworks on Saturday at the Old Port (usually starting around 12/14), Cirque du Soleil at Centre Belle, Casse Noisette at Placedesarts, the light show at night in Quartier des Spectacles, the small Christmas villages set up in the small parks.

Just remember to dress warmly even if the weather report shows warm weather for Montreal for the December weekend. It can change quickly. Also there is a whole underground city to explore if it gets too cold.

Thanks Tnewton for all your help. After your review, I just booked my montreal flight and hotel today. Staying 2 nights so hopefully that weekend will have some girls that I like. Most of the girls now on euphoria vog and Xo, I like these types of girls. Skinny, 5 ft 3 inches and taller. Wish me luck.

[MtlLocal]

Allow me to explain, the agencies are lying to you. They don't actually have all those girls on their "models" page. It's all a lie, don't get too excited when you see a girl that you'the love to bang on their sites. Cause chances are, you won't be able to book her. The girl makes up her own schedule, and it gets updated last minute, which fucking sucks for people like you and I that are planning trips and are only there for a few nights.

You can't book in advance. Fucking piece of shit vogue wouldn't let me do it. You can only book the same day. You have to go off of what is on the schedule on their site. If you look at the schedule there's only like 6 girls on for tomorrow. It's fucking bullshit. You basically can only select from those 6 girls. Which is why vogue engages in false advertising. They are lying to you. They don't really have those hot girls on their websites. Far from it. Those hot girls can work one day in a month and they stay on the site. The longer they are there, the more these agencies lie and mislead potential customers like me and you. We think we are going to fuck some really hot girls, then we see the schedule and it's 3 anorexic bitches that weigh 70 pounds each with no tits and no ass. Fucking disgusting and nasty. No idea how that is the standard of beauty. Like where the fuck are the thick bitches? Despicable.

Type indycompanion twitter. You should see many thick or non skinny girls this way throughout Canada.

Personally, I feel like booking were easier prior to Mike's Mansuon being absorbed. Maybe it's just everything has reached a sort of peak polularity. Someone on the green mentioned more indepedants advetising than ever, and indpedants being strictly on twitter and no where else. The only lady I'm seeing right now is one of those people, actually. In any event, I don't think you can call a list of who is available that day relative to the full list of employees at an agency false advertising. Everyone has their own schedule and life to live.

For advance booking of anyone popular, I would say give-up because those girls have local regulars who fill that spot. Last minute is all tou would get with them, if you're lucy. The heart of winter is ideal for that, since even if we're use to the cold, it can still stifle our urges to go out.

[Jalimon2]

I think December is a great time to visit Montreal. I went last year and got to see some popular girls who I was unable to see in summer because they were booked solid. And I booked them on the same day without any problem. Frankly there are so many nice girls, you won't have a problem booking a nice one the same day in December. But I would avoid Christmas and Boxing day.

Hotel rates are much lower in December. Using one of the online discount hotel services, you should be able to get a 4 star hotel for under $100 a night. And there are plenty of other activities. Fireworks on Saturday at the Old Port (usually starting around 12/14), Cirque du Soleil at Centre Belle, Casse Noisette at Placedesarts, the light show at night in Quartier des Spectacles, the small Christmas villages set up in the small parks.

Just remember to dress warmly even if the weather report shows warm weather for Montreal for the December weekend. It can change quickly. Also there is a whole underground city to explore if it gets too cold.

December is absolutely great time to be in the city of Montreal. Many girl will work a lot to get more money for Christmas holiday. January / February can still be good in regards to low price and girl not being booked much.

The problem with the Summer is many girl barely working. They get a few shift in just to get enough money to then hop from music festival or to some vacation. In August you have more chance to hit SP at the Pointe-Callumet Beach Club north of montreal then at popular agencies.

[Jalimon2]

Most of these girls in the major agencies in Montreal do this as a part time job. They are attending university or have a daytime full time job. They schedule agency work to fit in with other demands.

Some guys in the States may be used to girls who do this line of work full time. In Montreal they make the rules and you can chose to accept their scheduling or go elsewhere. The major agencies have plenty of girls who are booked solid. I have seen plenty of girls from Vogue and they are not all anorexic. I have never had a problem with booking and their service is great. There is no false advertising because again most of these girls do this part time. They are not working every day.

The problem with an advance schedule, that I have learned, is that some guys will book girls from XO on Monday for later in the week, and then if someone else more desireable pops up later in the week, will cancel the original appointment. So if someone is frustrated because they can't book in advance, think of the girls who lose appointments they thought they had booked.

Well said. I think TerOnlyOnce 's problem is he probably exchange with the agency the same way he is writing here. Which is quite rude. Booker will spot dude like that fast and ignore them quickly.

When you get yourself known from these bookers as a good and reliable client they will pre-book girl for you. Even agencies that supposedly do not pre book. You learn that when you organize 3 some or mini party with a few guys / girls.

Now girl being girl. Being young and yes on the rebel side (they would do another line of work if they were not a bit rebellious) you always need a plan B because last minute cancellation will happen. Probably 1 out of 5 of your booking. If not more sometimes. You have to plan to deal with that.

Cheers.

[Mongerer88]

Some girls are booked by regulars. I am one of the regulars. You tourists get what's left. As simple as that.

The Montreal agencies or independents do not show favoritism toward locals in comparison to tourists.

Guys from the USA are a huge portion of their revenue.

Don't take this troublemaking bait and discourage people from visiting Montreal.

The big agencies do what is called marketing branding. It doesn't matter that much who you chose because all the ladies are similar in looks and performance and service offerings. They don't have a lot of heavy-set ladies with giant breasts (to go along with other thick parts) since that is not their "brand". Their aren't as many thick girls in Montreal as in Mexico and other poor countries, because the First World diet is lower in carbs and more importantly lower in meats where the animals were given growth hormones that cause abnormally large breast development. And for the sake of the ladies health, thank god for that. And it helps with their long-term earnings also, since they can be attractive for a longer period of time.

Booking way in advance is not a big part of the Montreal agency scene.

For independents, where there is a greater variance in ages, body styles and service offerings, it is a bigger deal.

But the guy creating all of this trouble was not interested in independents due to their slightly higher prices.

And to the guy saying he was comparing Montreal to the USA, he was not. His comparisons were Montreal to Mexico, particularly Tijuana.

[HarvestBoi]

Works both ways. Would Teronlyonce be Ok with sending a deposit to ensure his chosen girls shows? Unlikely.

Most of these girls in the major agencies in Montreal do this as a part time job. They are attending university or have a daytime full time job. They schedule agency work to fit in with other demands.
So if someone is frustrated because they can't book in advance, think of the girls who lose appointments they thought they had booked.

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