Montreal

[Hacsek]

What are people's thoughts on leolist? I found a great girl on there this afternoon. Really huge tits, G cups, super big. She let me titty fuck them and have fun with them for an hour today. I was able to negotiate down to $160 an hour. It was a good session so I rebooked her for tomorrow morning, but this time 90 minutes at $220. I'm starting to really like leolist. There are a lot of girls on there and potential for some great finds. I like working directly with the girl and texting her. Plus I find that you can negotiate some really great prices. It's very flexible since you are working 1 on 1 with the girl and she is probably a more amateur provider / normal girl. You can knock off 10-15% off the "sticker" price in some cases. It reminds me of Tijuana Mexico, a lot of people would go right into the clubs and fuck the girls in there. I did that too, but I much prefer the street girls. Why? Well the main reason is because they are super cheap. Like $20 USD for 20 minutes. You can basically get an hour for $60 USD. It's really really cheap with street girls. The street girls aren't ugly too. You can find some really hot girls like 8/10 if you keep looking and stay on the lookout. That's why I like the street so much. It's more effort and screening, but in the end you find much better deals, save more money, and have a good time.

If you are not a local forget leolist, Humpchies, an123 these sites are 90%. Bait and switch and if you are not familiar with the neighberhoods it can even get dangerous and scary.

Stick to the 5 or 6 agencies advertised on the green board, or the Indys advertising there.

Two other good sites for MTL Indys are Indy companions. Com and Tryst Link there should be ample supply of Indys to suit any bodies needs and with them you can easily set up sessions even weeks in advance.

I am a local Montrealer not very active here, sometimes post on the Budapest / Hungary thread, but post more on the local Montreal green board.

[JoeZakary]

What are people's thoughts on leolist? I found a great girl on there this afternoon. Really huge tits, G cups, super big. She let me titty fuck them and have fun with them for an hour today. I was able to negotiate down to $160 an hour. It was a good session so I rebooked her for tomorrow morning, but this time 90 minutes at $220. I'm starting to really like leolist. There are a lot of girls on there and potential for some great finds. I like working directly with the girl and texting her. Plus I find that you can negotiate some really great prices. It's very flexible since you are working 1 on 1 with the girl and she is probably a more amateur provider / normal girl. You can knock off 10-15% off the "sticker" price in some cases. It reminds me of Tijuana Mexico, a lot of people would go right into the clubs and fuck the girls in there. I did that too, but I much prefer the street girls. Why? Well the main reason is because they are super cheap. Like $20 USD for 20 minutes. You can basically get an hour for $60 USD. It's really really cheap with street girls. The street girls aren't ugly too. You can find some really hot girls like 8/10 if you keep looking and stay on the lookout. That's why I like the street so much. It's more effort and screening, but in the end you find much better deals, save more money, and have a good time.

Would you care to share her profile so I can get what you're talking about! We seem to have the same tastes LOL and I can completely relate to your story with Tara.

[Hacsek]

What type of men prefer the independent women? Without criticizing anyone, some of the independent girls have higher prices so exactly who is going to pay more and For what reasons? Plus the independent girls get to keep the entire payment. As opposed to the escort girls who have to split it with the agency. If the independent girls keep all the money then For which reasons do they feel the need to charge more? Unless there is a good explanation, it just seems From a certain point of view like The independents are stepping on their own feet.

In some situations it would just be better for the girl to Make friends With the guy so they can spend more time Together or have more sessions instead of trying to balloon raise the prices. Anyways, it's never about the money. People should just focus more on providing a quality creative service only then will they get ahead of themselves.

I for one always use independents.

First it is always about the money agency or independent don't kid yourself that it is not.

Independents have a higher overhead, their own web sight, incall location are shared with few others or maybe entirely their own, they do their own booking etc. There is a long list of reasons why they are more expensive most of which are justifiable.

I prefer the individual dialogue, with the Indys, I don't like talking to bookers.

With repeats you get to know them quite well, most will go out of their way to please you.

Repeat business is their bread and butter they know the value of a regular client.

They tend to be way more mature and experienced, then if you are really lucky you may end up with a couple that are not only amazing to be with but you end up being friends and actually really get to like each other and appreciate each other's company not just the sex.

This is very rare but it does happen.

I have never had a bad session so far, but I have only used well reviewed indys that advertise on the local green board.

Yes they are maybe more pricey, but not always, as there is usually none of the nonsense that there is an extra for this an extra for that, and once they are comfortable with you, you would be amazed just what really is available without even asking.

[Chubzy Maximus]

What has gone wrong with this agency? Xxxtase. Back in the day when Martin was working there. Was a great agency. Martin left the day-to-day to run his restaurant and the agency went to hell and never recovered.

Has anyone had any luck with this agency lately?

Had a great time with this chic.

https://montrealxxxtase.com/escort/jessica/

[HungryStud101]

Now for the review: I saw Tara from XXXtase and she was not that great. I just want to say that I went into this very objectively and have communicated with the agencies and girl thus far in a very down to earth and casual way. I do have some courtesy and for the most part am not a loud idiot. That being said, I personally did not enjoy my session with Tara to the best extent. Yes she has huge titties which is why I was excited to book her. They are very big, one tit is almost as big as the size of your head if you are into that. They are fake tits. It was all great and I got to titty fuck her for sometime, but in general she didn't have a solid attitude towards the session. She didn't allow any kissing and no BBBJ. I was surprised, thought BBBJ was the standard? She also didn't take her pants off during the session. I was mainly there to titty fuck her huge tits which is what I wanted and got to do. But there was not even an offer or gesture towards sex. In fact, she was actually encouraging me to cum after 10 minutes in the session.

Tara from XXXtase in a terrible provider. I highly recommend to avoid her if you want to save your money. I really feel that I should put this up there and make this public. Some guys would really benefit to know this information. Let me be the Guinea pig, let me take one for the team and waste my money for you, and give you the information so you don't have to find out yourself. She is awful. Yes her tits are huge, but really you won't be able to enjoy them as much as you would like. You can tell she has restrictions. It was so awkward because I wanted to do more, I wanted to really enjoy her tits, but I knew she wouldn't let me. And when I did try to enjoy them, she backed off towards the end. She does not want to please you, she does not care about that or you, she just wants to deliver sub par experience, and leave. She complained a lot about me rubbing her tits. She complains to me and says she hates it when people touch her tits!

What has gone wrong with this agency? Xxxtase. Back in the day when Martin was working there. Was a great agency. Martin left the day-to-day to run his restaurant and the agency went to hell and never recovered. My worst service from an agency girl was a Delights girl and Delights was just another name for Xxxtase. I'm telling you that my 2nd Montreal agency girl ever was an Xxxtase girl and I had had a few after that and they were always top notch.

Has anyone had any luck with this agency lately?

Thanks for the review TerOnlyOnce. The bad ones like this one are the ones that help the most. Avoid Tara. Got it.

[Jalimon2]

I'm reading all this shit now. How many times have I told you fuckers to call a week in advance and introduce yourself to the bookers? James from euphoria literally spent 10 min talking to me and hooked me up with an appointment when I first tried to book with euphoria, and she was a tough chic to book. Amanda / Mia diverted me to Elena when she was in her second week at XO, when Meghan was totally booked. Call ahead dudes, makes a huge difference.

One thing I noticed for sure, there's a lot of locals who write favorable reviews cause they think they will get in good with a girl, others who give so, so, service a pass cause the girl is really hot, and others who just don't have the gonads to come out and say they had an average time with a popular girl (I myself am guilty of this).

So the girls you think your missing out on, might not be in reality what they are hyped up to be. One time I went to MTL, and had a TSL, didn't see one chic on that list. My plan be's and see's also bailed, but still had a blast. Remember Sam from XO pointed out a girl after none of the girls I wanted to see were available or canceled. Don't think I would booked this chic had he not mentioned her to me. Booked her for 90, she ended up staying another half hour.

Talk to the bookers, forget prebooking, forget the starlets, you may not think they are one, or might be able to book a starlet in evolution, LOL! Just go to MLT and enjoy!

Right on target.

I guess many visitors are a bit shy and nervous of what they are doing. So they prefer least communication with the booker and expect the best. Well it's a recipe for missing out.

This is Montreal folks. Let it go don't be shy. Talks to bookers. Also if one booker gives you special attention let him know you will only use his agency for your trip if he helps you out. Booker need to know your plan to help you out. For example if you want 2 h or even 3 h session my god let them know!! They will prioritize you big time as it's easier for everyone to book a girl multiple hours.

Cheers,

[MtlLocal]

What type of men prefer the independent women? Without criticizing anyone, some of the independent girls have higher prices so exactly who is going to pay more and For what reasons? Plus the independent girls get to keep the entire payment. As opposed to the escort girls who have to split it with the agency. If the independent girls keep all the money then For which reasons do they feel the need to charge more? Unless there is a good explanation, it just seems From a certain point of view like The independents are stepping on their own feet.

In some situations it would just be better for the girl to Make friends With the guy so they can spend more time Together or have more sessions instead of trying to balloon raise the prices. Anyways, it's never about the money. People should just focus more on providing a quality creative service only then will they get ahead of themselves.

I prefer indy and I will tell you why.

1) You can ask them blantant and explicit questions about your preferences before seeing them. This includes asking or suggesting specific clothing, lipstick, or accessories.

2) Indy on the green at least always trend older. This usually means they already have experience in the industry. Often this translates into an increased willingness to "let themselves" naturally react when intimate. This leads me to my next point.

2.1) Indy are much more inclined to DFK with passion than Agency ladies. This isn't to say agency girls do not DFK. It's just much more likely on average to get that sweet DFK from indy. This isn't a concidence. Many of the more popular ladies in the agency that have since retired gave generous DFK and sweet GFE. Many who go on to become Indy do as well.

3) Indy rates are very often all inclusive. So, while it may seem like it's way higher, if she's giving you CIM or CIMSW at 300 hour, it's not that bloated compared to say an agency at 220 h where there is usually a $40 CIM upcharge.

4) TIME. With the indy I've seen at least, I've always got the full time. Never a minute less. And often a few minutes more. All have asked if I wanted to take a shower once my time was up. Never before. At the agency they simply cannot be as generous with time because they have back to back bookings. Maybe if you're the last of the day that's different.

I don't like paying more. All girls are totally about the money until the day they aren't doing this anymore. Never think otherwise. They make as much as they can while they can, although some aren't as profit mongering as others.

[Ludacris775]

I grew up in the backpage days where you had to go through fake pictures to find 1 or 2 real girls and hope they weren't crazy enough to rob or stab you, all while you avoid getting arrested by the cops LOL. Leolist looks like what I'm use to. I agree that I wouldn't recommend it for everyone. To people that are more experienced or have mongered in the US the site will feel very familiar because this is how we are use to getting sex from hookers in a country where prostitution is illegal.

My last day in Montreal was great and I can't complain at all. I had a great 90 minute session with the same girl from last night which was plenty of fun. I fucked her tits a lot and we cuddled and chatted. It was an eye opening experience and makes me think I should try for some civilian girls again even if I can't fuck them. In reality, just sex and no connection with the girl can really suck, especially after you nut. At the same time, paying for sex is excellent when you are at a low point with women and haven't gotten laid in a really really long time. So it's like a balancing act. When I'm over sexed I tend to go for more connections, but when I'm under sexed I pay for sex and go for sex no matter what.

"You had to sift through lots of fake pics to find one or two real girls who hopefully aren't crazy enough to stab you all while avoiding getting arrested. This is what we are used to mongering in the US".

LOL. I'm also from the US but never have bothered with that bullshit. Not worth it. Only place I have mongered in the US is Nevada where it is safe and legal. Sure prices are higher than in the illegal scene but you don't have to worry about being stabbed, robbed, or arrested! The girls there are even regularly tested for STIs. Nevada's legal scene is more similar to German FKKs. In NV you have a club type of environment and can choose girls from a lineup. There are pics online but they are usually pretty accurate and are rarely completely fake. Never used backpage or similar sites such as skip the games in the US so I wouldn't be used to something like leolist.

Good to hear the rest of your trip turned out well.

[Chubzy Maximus]

I literally can't plan for my trip LOL. Cause I don't know what girls are really working that day. So I can't make a good choice LOL. I'm looking at broken / busted ass schedules for tomorrow and Sunday. It's all bullshit because all the fuckin girls put their schedule up last minute.

So there's not even a point to plan it. Fuck it LOL. Fuck this stupid shit LOL.

I'm reading all this shit now. How many times have I told you fuckers to call a week in advance and introduce yourself to the bookers? James from euphoria literally spent 10 min talking to me and hooked me up with an appointment when I first tried to book with euphoria, and she was a tough chic to book. Amanda / Mia diverted me to Elena when she was in her second week at XO, when Meghan was totally booked. Call ahead dudes, makes a huge difference.

One thing I noticed for sure, there's a lot of locals who write favorable reviews cause they think they will get in good with a girl, others who give so, so, service a pass cause the girl is really hot, and others who just don't have the gonads to come out and say they had an average time with a popular girl (I myself am guilty of this).

So the girls you think your missing out on, might not be in reality what they are hyped up to be. One time I went to MTL, and had a TSL, didn't see one chic on that list. My plan be's and see's also bailed, but still had a blast. Remember Sam from XO pointed out a girl after none of the girls I wanted to see were available or canceled. Don't think I would booked this chic had he not mentioned her to me. Booked her for 90, she ended up staying another half hour.

Talk to the bookers, forget prebooking, forget the starlets, you may not think they are one, or might be able to book a starlet in evolution, LOL! Just go to MLT and enjoy!

[TerOnlyOnce]

I am mostly a independent guy. Only went 4 times in agency in 2019 so far. And really pretty much for the same reason you wrote (but I never tried to negotiate the first meet up, I wait for a repeat).

But I would never ever suggest Leolist or AI or Hump or 123 to any outside visitors. Those ad site are filled with 95% bait. You got lucky but continue and you will see what I mean These independent web add sites are for hard core locals. And still most local I know never bother they prefer to pay a bit more the agency way.

Cheers.

I grew up in the backpage days where you had to go through fake pictures to find 1 or 2 real girls and hope they weren't crazy enough to rob or stab you, all while you avoid getting arrested by the cops LOL. Leolist looks like what I'm use to. I agree that I wouldn't recommend it for everyone. To people that are more experienced or have mongered in the US the site will feel very familiar because this is how we are use to getting sex from hookers in a country where prostitution is illegal.

My last day in Montreal was great and I can't complain at all. I had a great 90 minute session with the same girl from last night which was plenty of fun. I fucked her tits a lot and we cuddled and chatted. It was an eye opening experience and makes me think I should try for some civilian girls again even if I can't fuck them. In reality, just sex and no connection with the girl can really suck, especially after you nut. At the same time, paying for sex is excellent when you are at a low point with women and haven't gotten laid in a really really long time. So it's like a balancing act. When I'm over sexed I tend to go for more connections, but when I'm under sexed I pay for sex and go for sex no matter what.

[Jalimon2]

What are people's thoughts on leolist? I found a great girl on there this afternoon. Really huge tits, G cups, super big. She let me titty fuck them and have fun with them for an hour today. I was able to negotiate down to $160 an hour. It was a good session so I rebooked her for tomorrow morning, but this time 90 minutes at $220. I'm starting to really like leolist. There are a lot of girls on there and potential for some great finds. I like working directly with the girl and texting her. Plus I find that you can negotiate some really great prices. It's very flexible since you are working 1 on 1 with the girl and she is probably a more amateur provider / normal girl. You can knock off 10-15% off the "sticker" price in some cases. It reminds me of Tijuana Mexico, a lot of people would go right into the clubs and fuck the girls in there. I did that too, but I much prefer the street girls. Why? Well the main reason is because they are super cheap. Like $20 USD for 20 minutes. You can basically get an hour for $60 USD. It's really really cheap with street girls. The street girls aren't ugly too. You can find some really hot girls like 8/10 if you keep looking and stay on the lookout. That's why I like the street so much. It's more effort and screening, but in the end you find much better deals, save more money, and have a good time.

I am mostly a independent guy. Only went 4 times in agency in 2019 so far. And really pretty much for the same reason you wrote (but I never tried to negotiate the first meet up, I wait for a repeat).

But I would never ever suggest Leolist or AI or Hump or 123 to any outside visitors. Those ad site are filled with 95% bait. You got lucky but continue and you will see what I mean These independent web add sites are for hard core locals. And still most local I know never bother they prefer to pay a bit more the agency way.

Cheers.

[Jalimon2]

What type of men prefer the independent women? Without criticizing anyone, some of the independent girls have higher prices so exactly who is going to pay more and For what reasons? Plus the independent girls get to keep the entire payment. As opposed to the escort girls who have to split it with the agency. If the independent girls keep all the money then For which reasons do they feel the need to charge more? Unless there is a good explanation, it just seems From a certain point of view like The independents are stepping on their own feet.

In some situations it would just be better for the girl to Make friends With the guy so they can spend more time Together or have more sessions instead of trying to balloon raise the prices. Anyways, it's never about the money. People should just focus more on providing a quality creative service only then will they get ahead of themselves.

Hum sorry but it's all about the money if offer and demand. Period. It's not all girl that want to work a lot. I know of some girl who are happy to grab 2-3 fish per month at 500 $ hour. I do have some rebate on some independent who agreed to see me at fixed lower price. But that is because I asked frankly. Some hesitate or don't answer so I take this as a no. Most agreed.

Also Twitter helps to bring more high price independent. It's free and easy marketing / networking.

[TerOnlyOnce]

What are people's thoughts on leolist? I found a great girl on there this afternoon. Really huge tits, G cups, super big. She let me titty fuck them and have fun with them for an hour today. I was able to negotiate down to $160 an hour. It was a good session so I rebooked her for tomorrow morning, but this time 90 minutes at $220. I'm starting to really like leolist. There are a lot of girls on there and potential for some great finds. I like working directly with the girl and texting her. Plus I find that you can negotiate some really great prices. It's very flexible since you are working 1 on 1 with the girl and she is probably a more amateur provider / normal girl. You can knock off 10-15% off the "sticker" price in some cases. It reminds me of Tijuana Mexico, a lot of people would go right into the clubs and fuck the girls in there. I did that too, but I much prefer the street girls. Why? Well the main reason is because they are super cheap. Like $20 USD for 20 minutes. You can basically get an hour for $60 USD. It's really really cheap with street girls. The street girls aren't ugly too. You can find some really hot girls like 8/10 if you keep looking and stay on the lookout. That's why I like the street so much. It's more effort and screening, but in the end you find much better deals, save more money, and have a good time.

[Mongerer88]

What type of men prefer the independent women? Without criticizing anyone, some of the independent girls have higher prices so exactly who is going to pay more and For what reasons? Plus the independent girls get to keep the entire payment. As opposed to the escort girls who have to split it with the agency. If the independent girls keep all the money then For which reasons do they feel the need to charge more? Unless there is a good explanation, it just seems From a certain point of view like The independents are stepping on their own feet.

In some situations it would just be better for the girl to Make friends With the guy so they can spend more time Together or have more sessions instead of trying to balloon raise the prices. Anyways, it's never about the money. People should just focus more on providing a quality creative service only then will they get ahead of themselves.

Most independents have shared trick pads for incall, and there are fewer overall transactions in that incall to spread the costs among.

Their advertising costs are significant, as they usually maintain their own websites and pay a photographer.

They usually Uber to outcalls, which is more expensive than the agency "carpool".

And most have a separate work smartphone for calls, emails, and to do basic screening and security.

Those costs are borne by the agency and spread among the agency ladies by the agency taking a "cut".

Not sure that most independents don't have a higher "overhead" fee per session than agency girls do. And it isn't an upfront fee an agency lady.

[TerOnlyOnce]

So far my trip has been good. I saw Amira from vogue earlier today. She is a very nice girl. If anyone is on the fence about her I would go see her. She is nice and ensures that you will have a good time. Reminds me of girls that I would normally get in real life. Very laid back, a bit quiet, and goes with the flow. She is good, I recommend.

I booked a girl from leolist and she should be arriving shortly. I had to cancel a booking from xo escorts, 4 hours notice. I feel bad but things turned out differently for me. I'm sure there are cancellations. In fact, the 2nd vogue girl I booked canceled on me today which worked out since I discovered that leolist has some pretty solid girls on there. A lot of junk but if you sift through it you can find some solid pictures. One girl has G cup tits that is coming to my hotel in an hour. I am excited about that. I'm hoping the pictures are accurate and she is a nice girl.

Overall paying for sex is a different experience. I'm use to meeting girls out on a date, chatting and vibing, and then bringing them back to my apartment to fuck them, then venmo them some money. This is my standard routine for girls that I meet on sugar daddy websites. Here it's a bit different, of course it's a direct transaction and it's timed, so psychologically that can fuck with you a bit during the session. Plus there's the question of: are the girls somewhat enjoying the session or is 90% of their focus on making money, going through it, and then heading home. It's all very psychological and it doesn't help to think so deeply on it.

I will say that I enjoy both paying directly for sex, and putting in the work to actually earn the girl. Both have their benefits and downsides. Getting exactly the girl you want is nice and can be fun. But there is a different kind of fun when you actually earn the girl and see that she wants to be horny for you and fuck you. I've had both experiences, there's definitely a marked difference. I guess it all comes down to chemistry, but again both aspects have their advantages and disadvantages.