Montreal

[CloudSurf]

Will be going to Montreal for 3 nights in September.

Use XO, Euphoria, and VOG.

Can I get any must see girls from these agencies?

I will post a short list of the girls I like later in the week but.

A must do list would really help.

Thank you!.

Between now and Sept. There will be changes at the agencies. So you may want to hold off on a list for a few more weeks.

In the meantime read up on reviews and see what you like.

For us to help we would need some more detail on your preferences. Body type, hair, type of service. Whatever info you can supply on what you are looking for.

[Hacsek]

Don't dismiss agency girls so quickly. As a matter of fact your favourite Indy spent several years at an agency, honing her people skills. Some of the best Indies today are former agency girls (SP's or MP's). The famous Maria Star who has worked both in agencies and as an Indy, started out as a stripper..

Like I said I am probably wrong, but for now I like the personal contact and communication with the lady you are going to see.

I am not fond of middlemen.

As far as my ATF, I know her history quite well and her skills even better.

I do think however that indies are more mature and know the value of keeping a repeat customer happy.

If they don't develop these skills they won't last long and will be back at an agency LOL.

[Monger718]

Will be going to Montreal for 3 nights in September.

Use XO, Euphoria, and VOG.

Can I get any must see girls from these agencies?

I will post a short list of the girls I like later in the week but.

A must do list would really help.

Thank you!

[WyattEarp]

Just to set the record straight, I've heard from a very reliable source that Gabrielle Garnier does her own booking. When I saw her circa 2016 she did have someone who helped with bookings but the last few years she has handled her own bookings.

Yeah, there's lots of great scheduling software out there.

[Chubzy Maximus]

This is an interesting discussion of Indys vs. Agency. Over the last year in Montreal, I have a few disappointing meetings with Agency girls who just didn't seem to be in the mood. Their excuses were they were tired from a long day or personal issues at home etc. When I asked them why they didn't just take the day off, the answer was always the same -"I really need the money. " I am starting to think that maybe Indys spread their appointments out more so that they are not too tired. Maybe because they are running their own business they are more committed to it?

(Not that I want to be accused of being a shill. LOL).

I prefer indies by far!

1. They are a bit older and more mature. Less likely to cancel! I had 3 cancellations on the same day with an agency. You can get pissed, but really it's life. I would like to think I was a 20 yo some time ago and would cut out on work to hit the beach or go out on a Friday night!

2. With indy girls you can contact them directly and ask "this is my schedule, can you meet up", it's either a yes or a no answer, your not waiting around to see if the chic you want gets posted on the roster the day your available and passing up other potential great sessions.

The best is to get numbers from agency chics, even better. Cuts out all the uncertainty.

[Hacsek]

Just to set the record straight, I've heard from a very reliable source that Gabrielle Garnier does her own booking. When I saw her circa 2016 she did have someone who helped with bookings but the last few years she has handled her own bookings.

Hungry you are right, Gabrielle does it all on her own for a long time now.

I see her often and talk to her even more, that lady has communication down to a science, I have never waited for her more than an hour or two to respond whether by email or text, she does not take phone calls, and on the day of the meet it is within minutes.

She did have someone help her and Jezabelle around the time you mentioned, they were I think using the same person and incall if I remember right he was called Phil.

Now she is completely Indy has her own stylish incall and manages it all.

[HungryStud101]

I too think that Indies may spread their appointments out a bit better or take fewer appointments overall. However, there is no guarantee of this. Some like Gabrielle and Maria Star will hire people to take their calls..

Just to set the record straight, I've heard from a very reliable source that Gabrielle Garnier does her own booking. When I saw her circa 2016 she did have someone who helped with bookings but the last few years she has handled her own bookings.

[CloudSurf]

I have always thought of agency girls as being one of many on a production line, probably the wrong way of looking at it totally..

Don't dismiss agency girls so quickly. As a matter of fact your favourite Indy spent several years at an agency, honing her people skills. Some of the best Indies today are former agency girls (SP's or MP's). The famous Maria Star who has worked both in agencies and as an Indy, started out as a stripper.

You can find coal and you can find diamonds among Indies as well as Agencies.

BTW I've never found an Indy who was worst on a subsequent date than on a first date. They are very protective of their reputation.

I have found a few agency girls, just a few mind you, who felt that they've figured me out and cut back on their service level on repeat dates.

[HungryStud101]

This is an interesting discussion of Indys vs. Agency. Over the last year in Montreal, I have a few disappointing meetings with Agency girls who just didn't seem to be in the mood. Their excuses were they were tired from a long day or personal issues at home etc. When I asked them why they didn't just take the day off, the answer was always the same -"I really need the money. " I am starting to think that maybe Indys spread their appointments out more so that they are not too tired. Maybe because they are running their own business they are more committed to it?

I think that all of us (guys and girls) can have a bad day. Can you imagine having to be at your best for 3- 4 appointments a day, 4-5 days a week?

I too think that Indies may spread their appointments out a bit better or take fewer appointments overall. However, there is no guarantee of this. Some like Gabrielle and Maria Star will hire people to take their calls. Some, like Isabella Desrosiers used manage her own calls and she used to take several appointments a day. I think the vision of an Indy only seeing one or two guys a day is mostly a myth.

I also remember an agency owner telling me that one of his girls insisted on X appointments a day and he tried to talk her out of it but she was saving up to take some time off in Europe. What he said was "those had to be terrible appointments. " he tried to talk her out of it but she insisted and what are you going to do?

I like agencies because I've had better luck with agencies keeping their promises to me. You have two heads thinking for you instead of 1 and if something happens, agencies have options. Also, most of the time, agencies cost less and you can see 2 or even 3 agency girls for the price of one Indy.

[Palcon]

Their excuses were they were tired from a long day or personal issues at home etc. "I really need the money. " I am starting to think that maybe Indys spread their appointments out more so that they are not too tired.

Most of them have issues and still need the money even after working for years. They either have no other options in life, never found a committed sugar daddy to keep the same life style, or spent most of it on shiny objects. You can't exactly go white collar without a college degree or do better than an assistant if you have no actual job experience. Indys charge 350+/ HR on average where as the agency girls take home 140-160/ HR on average. Even if you account for the indy's expenses the indy still makes at least 2 x more per hour. The indy doesn't need to see as many men plus if she's a successful indy her life is probably more together than your average 20 year old.

[Palcon]

There are two types of Indies.

I noticed Dasha was spending time in Toronto. Surprise, surprise, Dasha has the same flaky, undependable reputation there.

There is always a third type, the desperate, non service-oriented, quick cash upsell ones.

All of the shilling and mod cleanup can only do so much for her reputation on that green board so she went and tried to clean up her image and reinvent herself in Toronto. Her ads crack me up with mentions of sophistication, no drugs and wanting respect and dignity yet she's expanded her extras to [CodeWord101] and filming. I met her over a year ago but that's like a 180 on who I saw and her face and body has shown the wear and tear since then.

[Hacsek]

I have always thought of agency girls as being one of many on a production line, probably the wrong way of looking at it totally.

When I started I literally looked through hundreds of websites and kept coming back to the same girl all the time.

She was the first and of course I have been totally hooked on her ever since.

She is the reason I have remained with Indy's.

As Hungry said they tend to be more pricey but I have no complaints.

So far I have been lucky and can't really say I have had any bad experiences.

Of course I have had a few where on repeated visits they took me for granted and at the end I felt like another faceless client.

Stuff like " l will show you how to turn the shower on " or do you need a fresh towel LOL. I guess I must be senile and forgot how I turned the shower on 90 minutes ago LOL and I do wear a functional watch and know how to tell time.

Anyway time to move on in those situations their loss.

It is a shame sometimes they start off as total sweethearts and then get a twitter page and are corrupted by a bunch of internet beggars and get lost amongst them.

[CloudSurf]

There are two types of Indies. One is the conscientious and service-oriented Indy who has a stellar reputation. The other is the flaky and unreliable Indy. As HungryStud101 mentioned, there are quite a few who have a hard time keeping appointments.

I noticed Dasha was spending time in Toronto. Surprise, surprise, Dasha has the same flaky, undependable reputation there. She started posting hot, revealing photos when her flakiness in Montreal became well-known. I also suppose if you charge more you can afford to miss some appointments. On the other hand, there are truly some professional Indies who cultivate their following and reputation.

Wyatt you are correct.

But let me rephrase what you wrote.

There are 2 types of escorts. Those who have the maturity and reliability to be indie. And those who don't have the skill set to be indie.

Many of the more mature and reliable types are part of Indie Companions. Some of the newer advertisers on the green board are disaster zones while others are surprisingly capable. The good ones stay around for several years. While the unreliable types keep trying to re-invent themselves.

[FastMdSter]

I was in Montreal for the F1 Race and was able to sample some of the great providers in Montreal.

My 3 favorite agencies in no order are Vogue, XO, and Euphoria. But I did also use Godiva for some late night meetings.

First Report will be for Vogue:

All my appts were 90 minutes.

Chanel- Looks: She has a lot of tattoos, on her face, everywhere on her body. But, she is real nice to speak with. Body is soft. She is a party girl. Pretty open. Had a PSE session vs GFE session.

Looks: 6-7.

Attitude: 9.

Performance: 9.5.

Elie: She is a superstar. Absolutely great to look at and fuck. You would never expect a woman that looks like her to work like this. My time with her was amazing, a mix of GFE and PSE.

Looks:9.

Attitude: 10.

Performance: 10.

Laura: She is highly reviewed. I thought she was really good. But her looks were not as great as I thought they would be based on others reviews. A PSE experience.

Looks: 7-8.

Attitude: 9.

Performance: 9.

Valerie: Was not my cup of tea. It was a late night, last minute appt.

Looks: 6.

Attitude: 7.

Performance: 6.

Will post more when I have time.

[WyattEarp]

There are two types of Indies. One is the conscientious and service-oriented Indy who has a stellar reputation. The other is the flaky and unreliable Indy. As HungryStud101 mentioned, there are quite a few who have a hard time keeping appointments.

I noticed Dasha was spending time in Toronto. Surprise, surprise, Dasha has the same flaky, undependable reputation there. She started posting hot, revealing photos when her flakiness in Montreal became well-known. I also suppose if you charge more you can afford to miss some appointments. On the other hand, there are truly some professional Indies who cultivate their following and reputation.