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[Artvand1]

My experience in MTL as a brown guy is very good. MTL is still on top of my list for best service and best quality of providers.

As a brown guy, I never felt any discrimination or bad service.

Rather, I always had best service in MTL and providers themselves referred me to other providers and suggested 3 somes.

Only once I had incident where one provider (highly reviewed and one of the top provider) who said NO to brown client after making appointment, so I had to make another plan.

I just assume she had bad experience with brown client before my appointment, so she changed her policy.

As AnwarFarzad said this maybe one off experience but IMP, MTL providers are one of the best.

Thanks, my recent experience has been very positive. I have posted my report below. I always mention I am brown before booking. That way if they have reservations they can avoid. But it takes just one bad client to ruin it though like you said about the one provider. That's why I was wary and always conscious on what I do.

[Joseph Brenner]

The irony of the clash between the green board and XO is not lost. I have to wonder if there is something more going on behind the scenes.

I say this because the green board usual shills are quite noticeable in launching new agency girls. You would have to wait for more reviews to come in from objective players to honestly gauge new girls. So basically it appears the shills get first crack at the new girls with the agency knowing they will help launch their escort career. It even seems that being aware of the shill's importance some of the girls provide better service to them. You know the typical response "She provided intense DFK to me. Sorry chap, you know YMMV."

The green board has also been known to remove poor reviews for girls. This is particularly true if they leave the business for awhile and come back. Even when they change names and move around their erratic service tends to resurface and their reputation haunts them.

That's understandable. Some guys have lots of $ so they book often. In counterpart they get offered new girls first by agencies and unless things would go very south, they make a good review and keep this business relationship going. I wouldn't be surprise they embelish a lot of stuff. But hey if you can afford to "loose" 250 $ like its no big deal and still get some privileges, I supose its understandable.

They do so.

[Pk099]

My experience in MTL as a brown guy is very good. MTL is still on top of my list for best service and best quality of providers.

As a brown guy, I never felt any discrimination or bad service.

Rather, I always had best service in MTL and providers themselves referred me to other providers and suggested 3 somes.

Only once I had incident where one provider (highly reviewed and one of the top provider) who said NO to brown client after making appointment, so I had to make another plan.

I just assume she had bad experience with brown client before my appointment, so she changed her policy.

As AnwarFarzad said this maybe one off experience but IMP, MTL providers are one of the best.

I live in Montreal and frequently hobby here. Being a brown guy, I have never faced any race-specific discrimination from indies / agencies, and I have seen girls from both humpchies and the green board. Some escorts on humpchies exclude black men, but most reputable indies do not discriminate. Without knowing the name of the girl you saw, I can only guess that it's a problem with that specific girl or maybe she was just having a bad day.

If an escort is biased against or makes it a policy to exclude certain races, they would usually ask for your "appearance" in the booking email and / or explictly mention it in their ad.

If you're in Montreal as a visitor, booking indies might be difficult as it requires planning ahead. I would recommend to check out reputed agencies lile Vog / Euphoria / XO, or the high-mileage massage places like Amazing Thai Spa / YPG / Adagio / the 2214 if the agencies are all booked.

[DethManRulz]

In any case, ultimately Xo (and likely Euphoria too for sure, maybe even VOG as you say) clearly do not need them to make $. Their reputation has been done and they are always almost fully booked very early. Avertising there always meant that your agency was legit, not a fraud, GFE (unless specified differently) and just overall safe. After winning 6 or so years in a row of best agency, I think they don't need more. They can thrive of their current clients for many more years.

I don't want to remove anything off other agencies, I had great services myself from them, but winning when the champ does not compete pretty much is the equivalent of entering a competition for second place.

The shame is really more for the girls of XO and any indies who do not have ads on the green board. As you mentioned, XO will be fine. Everyone knows them. The awards are very useful for the girls, should they continue in this career. But, it's been crazy to have a vote for best girls when all the XO girls are off the vote list.

[Artvand1]

I live in Montreal and frequently hobby here. Being a brown guy, I have never faced any race-specific discrimination from indies / agencies, and I have seen girls from both humpchies and the green board. Some escorts on humpchies exclude black men, but most reputable indies do not discriminate. Without knowing the name of the girl you saw, I can only guess that it's a problem with that specific girl or maybe she was just having a bad day.

If an escort is biased against or makes it a policy to exclude certain races, they would usually ask for your "appearance" in the booking email and / or explictly mention it in their ad.

If you're in Montreal as a visitor, booking indies might be difficult as it requires planning ahead. I would recommend to check out reputed agencies lile Vog / Euphoria / XO, or the high-mileage massage places like Amazing Thai Spa / YPG / Adagio / the 2214 if the agencies are all booked.

Thanks very much for the info, AnwarFarzad! Much appreciated. Like you mentioned the girl might have been having a bad day. And like you said booking an indy if I am only visiting Montreal has been difficult. I did not try indies up until recently as I was not sure if they would have any inhibitions seeing a brown guy, buy tried two as a last resort. I did a trip report a few posts below and yeah like you said I tried reputed agencies. I booked a girl from Euphoria and a girl from Sensation and boy I was blown away by their services. They were very nice, accommodating and provided excellent GFE. Probably the best I had so far outside FKKs in Germany. Will probably stick to them and good to know you have not faced any discrimination. I think I am too conscious / paranoid that way LOL. Thanks again!

[WyattEarp]

I agree that asking is better than speculation. However, the inability to pay for a 100 a night hotel is exactly the reason the services rules people out. People who cannot afford a decent hotel are very likely not able to afford an escort or by experience likely to be poor customers (like cancelling an appointment). Good clients attracts better girls which creates a positive feedback loop. Girls have no incentive to pay an agency that wastes their time. That is why the better girls become independents. They have good paying regulars and don't have to share their fees.

I would not suggest that there was an issue booking Montreal outcalls to an Airbnb unless this is actually known.

If you book an Airbnb in the center of Montreal, you will likely be in a high-rise. The agency will easily be able to determine this. True, some of the Airbnb's interiors are more austere than others. The agency will not know what you are paying. You can easily spend over $100 a night. Many of us book Airbnb's because we like the comfort and space. I don't even cook. Though I have brought back carryout.

If one was staying away from the center in a walk-up apartment, the agency might balk for a variety of reasons including security.

[WyattEarp]

On the Xo situation specifically its a bit weird. Xo mentioned on their twitter that they had issues with them allowing certain bad reviews that were made only to "dirt" them. I know for a fact from a time where a "blue board clone" (not here obviously) existed that Xo had some big haters. Maybe competition or clients they banned for various reasons, no idea, but the hate was strong. Now that being said my personal issue with the greens is the censorship and not being allow to talk enough about very important topics. So kinda like the opposite of what Xo has against them.

The irony of the clash between the green board and XO is not lost. I have to wonder if there is something more going on behind the scenes.

I say this because the green board usual shills are quite noticeable in launching new agency girls. You would have to wait for more reviews to come in from objective players to honestly gauge new girls. So basically it appears the shills get first crack at the new girls with the agency knowing they will help launch their escort career. It even seems that being aware of the shill's importance some of the girls provide better service to them. You know the typical response "She provided intense DFK to me. Sorry chap, you know YMMV."

The green board has also been known to remove poor reviews for girls. This is particularly true if they leave the business for awhile and come back. Even when they change names and move around their erratic service tends to resurface and their reputation haunts them.

[Bearsi]

I do not have any problems booking outcalls staying in a Montreal AirBnB. I would recommend staying in the center. I like the area around Concordia University. It's conveniently between the green and orange metro lines. There is a young, hip crowd centered around Rue Sainte-Catherine. Let's say you won't go hungry or thirsty. If you think you have game with the under 30 civilian girls, it's a target rich environment.

Of course, you can always reach out to Vogue to confirm they are cool with AirBnBs. I don't see any "hotels only" policy anywhere.

Yes, the summer festivals are great. Besides the music and street festivals, don't forget the big comedy festival in July. A who's who of comics drop into Montreal to perform.

One might say avoid January through March unless you enjoy hockey, but there other things to consider. The girls might not be as booked up because a drop in tourists. The cost of lodging definitely drops. The St. Patrick's Day parade can be fun.

Having said that all, if you want to have a great vacation the summer months in Montreal can't be beat.

BIG COMEDY FAN!

Will definitely look out for that! Looks like the summer will be my time to go!

It's been 3 years since I been back so will be fun to check out the city and be a tourist again. Hopefully this time around the girls I'm looking forward arent booked.

I'm rather fond of the petite french quebec girls.

[Akibono]

I do not have any problems booking outcalls staying in a Montreal AirBnB. I would recommend staying in the center. I like the area around Concordia University. It's conveniently between the green and orange metro lines. There is a young, hip crowd centered around Rue Sainte-Catherine. Let's say you won't go hungry or thirsty. If you think you have game with the under 30 civilian girls, it's a target rich environment.

Of course, you can always reach out to Vogue to confirm they are cool with AirBnBs. I don't see any "hotels only" policy anywhere.

Yes, the summer festivals are great. Besides the music and street festivals, don't forget the big comedy festival in July. A who's who of comics drop into Montreal to perform.

One might say avoid January through March unless you enjoy hockey, but there other things to consider. The girls might not be as booked up because a drop in tourists. The cost of lodging definitely drops. The St. Patrick's Day parade can be fun.

Having said that all, if you want to have a great vacation the summer months in Montreal can't be beat.

I agree that asking is better than speculation. However, the inability to pay for a 100 a night hotel is exactly the reason the services rules people out. People who cannot afford a decent hotel are very likely not able to afford an escort or by experience likely to be poor customers (like cancelling an appointment). Good clients attracts better girls which creates a positive feedback loop. Girls have no incentive to pay an agency that wastes their time. That is why the better girls become independents. They have good paying regulars and don't have to share their fees.

[AnwarFarzad]

After a lot of research and screening, I finally got to see an indy here. Being non-Caucasian I am grateful an indy saw me, but the experience has not been great. The reviews on the Montreal green board about this provider were great. Folks mentioned she did DFK, CIM, and BBBJ. But all I got was LFK, CBJ and a HJ. I know like everything in life, ymmv. But before folks say it depends on your hygiene, trust me I am pretty clean. I showered and throughly mouthwash before reaching the incall location and again after reaching I shower and mouthwash. If anything, found the SP not that clean tbh.

I would appreciate any comments from folks who had similar experiences. And any pointers on how to book in the future.

I live in Montreal and frequently hobby here. Being a brown guy, I have never faced any race-specific discrimination from indies / agencies, and I have seen girls from both humpchies and the green board. Some escorts on humpchies exclude black men, but most reputable indies do not discriminate. Without knowing the name of the girl you saw, I can only guess that it's a problem with that specific girl or maybe she was just having a bad day.

If an escort is biased against or makes it a policy to exclude certain races, they would usually ask for your "appearance" in the booking email and / or explictly mention it in their ad.

If you're in Montreal as a visitor, booking indies might be difficult as it requires planning ahead. I would recommend to check out reputed agencies lile Vog / Euphoria / XO, or the high-mileage massage places like Amazing Thai Spa / YPG / Adagio / the 2214 if the agencies are all booked.

[Joseph Brenner]

Didn't Jalimon or someone mention some fallout recently? I drop in once in a every month or so to read reviews. I couldn't find any XO girls' reviews. Seems crazy since XO has been one of the top MTL agencies for several years.

Most of us know the green board has it's odd peculiarities and it seems the site owners allow the moderators to perpetuate them. The mods are far too meddlesome and edit or delete fairly innocuous comments at their whim. It's now kind of fun to watch the mods there try to fuck with one of their former sponsors. I always thought XO, Euphoria and Vogue didn't need the green board to thrive.

If you go in Incall section (wich is what Xo does mostly these days with few exeptions) there is reviews. They allow reviews of anyone, not only just advertisers. Otherwise the board would really loose A TON of its purpose.

Now that said, I have been censored multiple times on the Green board. You are not even allowed to talk about rates and screening anymore wich is laughable. You can't talk about Twitter either. The moderation has always been overboard in my opinion but it has gotten worst the past few years. Fred Zed is not Fred Zed anymore either (dude passed away). I would like to know who own the board and who are the mods but they keep these secrets tied.

On the Xo situation specifically its a bit weird. Xo mentioned on their twitter that they had issues with them allowing certain bad reviews that were made only to "dirt" them. I know for a fact from a time where a "blue board clone" (not here obviously) existed that Xo had some big haters. Maybe competition or clients they banned for various reasons, no idea, but the hate was strong. Now that being said my personal issue with the greens is the censorship and not being allow to talk enough about very important topics. So kinda like the opposite of what Xo has against them.

In any case, ultimately Xo (and likely Euphoria too for sure, maybe even VOG as you say) clearly do not need them to make $. Their reputation has been done and they are always almost fully booked very early. Avertising there always meant that your agency was legit, not a fraud, GFE (unless specified differently) and just overall safe. After winning 6 or so years in a row of best agency, I think they don't need more. They can thrive of their current clients for many more years.

I don't want to remove anything off other agencies, I had great services myself from them, but winning when the champ does not compete pretty much is the equivalent of entering a competition for second place. Euphoria has always been a rather solid agency. Mostly due to James exeptional services. They always had a chance to win even if they finish 2nd every year. I think they will win by default this year. Vog will be 2nd and a smaller agency will snatch 3rd place. Its easy to predict. Altough it may be cool to see a small agency get 3rd place, it would had been much better to see Xo and Euphoria go head to head again.

[WyattEarp]

So I guess a private condo / house on airbnb is ok? Don't want to book a place and have them say they only do hotels.

I'll most likely do a long weekend trip to MTL in 2023 maybe during the summer. They have some cool music festivals in the summer. I like to travel and enjoy the city as well as it's female occupants. Plus MTL although nice, I dislike the fact that girls are constantly booked or they cancel last minute.

What would be the months to avoid tho?

I do not have any problems booking outcalls staying in a Montreal AirBnB. I would recommend staying in the center. I like the area around Concordia University. It's conveniently between the green and orange metro lines. There is a young, hip crowd centered around Rue Sainte-Catherine. Let's say you won't go hungry or thirsty. If you think you have game with the under 30 civilian girls, it's a target rich environment.

Of course, you can always reach out to Vogue to confirm they are cool with AirBnBs. I don't see any "hotels only" policy anywhere.

Yes, the summer festivals are great. Besides the music and street festivals, don't forget the big comedy festival in July. A who's who of comics drop into Montreal to perform.

One might say avoid January through March unless you enjoy hockey, but there other things to consider. The girls might not be as booked up because a drop in tourists. The cost of lodging definitely drops. The St. Patrick's Day parade can be fun.

Having said that all, if you want to have a great vacation the summer months in Montreal can't be beat.

[Bearsi]

Vogue is still only outcall. Oddly, I don't think that is mentioned specifically on their website.

I'm guessing the economics are different for the agency and the girl. Perhaps some girls like getting shuttled around town rather than being cooped up in a condo.

For guys, you can wait and relax in your own place. You aren't directed to the shower as you are when you walk into an incall.

I remember when I booked superstar April of Vogue (quickly became an Indy now retired) awhile back she got there a bit early. As I was just returning from the liquor store, I was texted she was waiting out front of my AirBnB building. She was wearing a cute summer dress and didn't look like an escort. She was still a very pretty blonde who stood out even in this young, happening part of town.

Yea they don't have the listed so I thought maybe they have changed their policies. I was staying at a hostel in the gay village so I had no place to bring a girl over. I was going to book an airbnb but I didn't know if girls would be ok with that as some girls / agencies prefer a hotel for safety reasons which I understand, so I decided to go with a hostel since A) this was my first visit and don't speak a lick of french and might need some help B) I would be saving some coin doing so. Hostel was $33 a night compared to $75 a night for a private place on airbnb or $100 a night at a hotel.

So I guess a private condo / house on airbnb is ok? Don't want to book a place and have them say they only do hotels.

I'll most likely do a long weekend trip to MTL in 2023 maybe during the summer. They have some cool music festivals in the summer. I like to travel and enjoy the city as well as it's female occupants. Plus MTL although nice, I dislike the fact that girls are constantly booked or they cancel last minute.

What would be the months to avoid tho?

[WyattEarp]

Yes. In my opinion in judging ease of booking, variety of women, quality of experience, VOG is the best by far, followed by Euphoria, then XO.

Vogue, Euphoria and XO are the big three. Perhaps Vogue is the best. These three have the largest rosters and have a superstar or two at various times. They all have popular girls who work sparingly so you really have to be ready to pull the trigger when they pop on the schedule. For whatever reasons, some of the girls jump agencies and have stints at two and even three agencies.

Just a general observation, but Vogue seems to currently have a lot of tenure. Outcall only might also make it easy for us visitors to get a crack at Vogue's top talents. Locals might just want to slip into a condo building in a quiet neighborhood for an incall. These could be reasons why you perceive them as the best.

At the end of the day, it only take one or two incredible girls to really make an agency impression. So I am not sure about brand loyalty unless you really prefer Vogue's outcall preponderance.

Side note: I always encourage visitors to stay near the center and tell the agency that anytime works when booking. Vogue can work it into a popular girl's schedule much easier. You are also competing with less locals as far as the time of day and the outcall set-up (mentioned above). (If you are on business, of course your schedule will be tighter.).

[WyattEarp]

When I went before the panedemic I recall that VOG is mainly if not only outcall? Do they do incall or is it strictly outcalls? I remember only doing XO and Euphoria mainly because of this.

Vogue is still only outcall. Oddly, I don't think that is mentioned specifically on their website.

I'm guessing the economics are different for the agency and the girl. Perhaps some girls like getting shuttled around town rather than being cooped up in a condo.

For guys, you can wait and relax in your own place. You aren't directed to the shower as you are when you walk into an incall.

I remember when I booked superstar April of Vogue (quickly became an Indy now retired) awhile back she got there a bit early. As I was just returning from the liquor store, I was texted she was waiting out front of my AirBnB building. She was wearing a cute summer dress and didn't look like an escort. She was still a very pretty blonde who stood out even in this young, happening part of town.