Montreal

[Mongerer88]

It is easier to be more blunt on this board than on merb.

Things are changing a bit with a couple of stars going independent (or working in conjunction with a few other girls) using the withlove extension to their names, but in general the Montreal independents trend a bit older and a bit heavier in pounds than the agency ladies.

Every market is different and must be evaluated separately. There are many markets where I prefer independents and if I brought that mindset to Montreal, I would be skeptical of the agencies.

But Montreal has a highly competitive agency system where they simply do a tremendous amount of work for the girls, and my personal opinion is that a lot of younger college students have simply decided that it is not worth it for them to do their own scheduling and transportation and safety as independents.

There are so many agencies that it seems a few of them are trying to specialize a bit. Euphoria and XO seem to pride themselves on having line-ups of Victoria Secret type models in the 18-25 year old range every day, and they get the most attention. But there are a lot of great agencies that don't get reviewed as often. My favorite in Montreal is at Wildtime, Jasmine's Unicorns offer fetish sessions unavailable in most cities, Vogue has been getting a lot of excellent reviews on the American review site, and XXXtase and MTLGFE and Montreal Sex City have some great performers, too.

No reason to look a gift horse in the mouth. There is a reason that the city has top talent. It is a big college town that draws a lot of 18-29 year old women from relatively poor Quebec villages where fast food does not seem to have succeeded in making most of the people obese. Montreal is an uninhibited place with limited overall economic opportunities, so sex work is popular. Add to this the draw of Americans looking for better services at lower prices to the mix of young ladies being able to work with agencies that take excellent care of them, and you get a lot of excellent supply and a lot of demand converging.

Thanks RTheMan and Sammi123 for the relative comparison. It's helpful.

I'm not sure what to make of the MERB board. There seems to be a couple noticeable things on MERB. The forum posters seem to discuss the same agencies over and over again. They seem to be generous in rating performance. Perhaps because they tend to rate facial beauty a bit lower this jives with your assessments of FKKs vs. MTL girls. The fact that the same agencies are mentioned over and over again makes me think that some of the forum posters are trying to curry favor with the agencies in order to get better service and scheduling. Many of the top MTL independents rarely get mentioned. I'm not sure if that's because the independents have a dedicated clientele who don't share and / or independents see less clients.

[WyattEarp]

I would say that the top 15-20% of girls at the better FKKs are model-like and rate higher than the top end Montreal agency girls. But their service level is usually not as GFE as Montreal. At an FKK I often go for an optifuck just to bang a really hot girl, not expecting GFE. At 50 euros / hh or 100 euros / h, you can sample a lot of girls during an FKK trip.

Thanks RTheMan and Sammi123 for the relative comparison. It's helpful.

I'm not sure what to make of the MERB board. There seems to be a couple noticeable things on MERB. The forum posters seem to discuss the same agencies over and over again. They seem to be generous in rating performance. Perhaps because they tend to rate facial beauty a bit lower this jives with your assessments of FKKs vs. MTL girls. The fact that the same agencies are mentioned over and over again makes me think that some of the forum posters are trying to curry favor with the agencies in order to get better service and scheduling. Many of the top MTL independents rarely get mentioned. I'm not sure if that's because the independents have a dedicated clientele who don't share and / or independents see less clients.

[LittleFeat]

I'll be in Montreal from the 28th to the 30th of June. Looking for BBFS, cheap is good. Don't need a model. Wouldn't get one cheap anyway. Just a good, nasty attitude. Any UTR recommends? Good internet sources? Much appreciated. Have LA references for similar girls I'm looking for in LA.

Thanks.

[Smuler]

At 50 euros / hh you can sample a lot of girls during an FKK trip.

100 % agree.

Best Regards.

Smuler.

[R The Man]

Varies. I have seen many girls at FKKs that I would rate above the ladies I met in Montreal. But also have gone with many FKK girls that were not as good.

I would say that the top 15-20% of girls at the better FKKs are model-like and rate higher than the top end Montreal agency girls. But their service level is usually not as GFE as Montreal. At an FKK I often go for an optifuck just to bang a really hot girl, not expecting GFE. At 50 euros / hh or 100 euros / h, you can sample a lot of girls during an FKK trip.

[Sammi123]

Having spent time with FKK providers how do the Montreal ladies compare with those at the FKKs looks wise?

Varies. I have seen many girls at FKKs that I would rate above the ladies I met in Montreal. But also have gone with many FKK girls that were not as good.

[Bruno68]

I'm going to give Montreal another try. I've read the Omni is the best for these types of assignations, but I don't want to book a room there. I'll be there for a five-day pleasure trip, and I don't want to just be in a room with a bed that I sexed a working girl on. Plus, the Omni is a little pricey at $200 a night.

I know Airbnbs can be touchy since many people don't want to rent their bed to someone who will have sex on it, so I'm mainly looking for absentee landlord-type Airbnbs, which will have less things that a working girl can steal too. Any recommendations? Or I might have to do incall. Thanks!

I have used airbnb multiple times for montreal trips. The key is to only search for places where you get the entire unit to yourself. When you do that search, nearly all of the listing in old montreal and downtown will be units that are exclusively listed on airbnb. No one lives in them when they aren't being used for airbnb rentals. You will never see your host (unless you really want to) and no one is ever going to see who you bring to your room except the guy who drove her to your place. Agencies are used to them and they are fine with it.

[Turgid]

I wanted to thank everyone for the excellent reports and advice on the Montreal forum.

Had a chance to see three ladies on my recent trip. (I had tried to schedule with Jennifer at XO with no luck). Overall, I left feeling jealous of all you guys in Montreal.

First was Margot at XO ($200/ hour). She's from France but does speak good English. Not a drop-dead gorgeous but cute enough. She has big, luscious lips. Thought her services were excellent though: DFK, DT BBBJ CIM, rimming, MSOG. Overall, excellent, and would recommend.

Second was Jordan from Nadya's ($200/ hour). This girl was truly beautiful. Service was not as good however (though not bad). LFK only. She interrupted the proceedings to remind me that CIM was an extra $50 -- ouch. I suppose I appreciate the warning, but kind of killed the mood. She is also a clock watcher -- and is very careful to include your shower time in the hour. With 15 minutes to go she was reminding that if I wanted to take another shower I probably would be able to finish Round 2! Overall, not a GFE. Beautiful girl, but I think better options. Would not repeat.

Finally saw Meghan from XO ($220/ hour). Beautiful, petite, blonde. Definitely worth the extra $. Excellent service: DFK BBBJ CIM, rimming, DATY. Highly recommend, though I wish I could keep her to myself.

Already looking forward to my next trip to Montreal.

In some ways, I prefer the FKK scene in Germany since there are never any doubts about the looks for the girl you are going to be with, but I can't complain at all about Montreal.

Having spent time with FKK providers how do the Montreal ladies compare with those at the FKKs looks wise?

[Sammi123]

I wanted to thank everyone for the excellent reports and advice on the Montreal forum.

Had a chance to see three ladies on my recent trip. (I had tried to schedule with Jennifer at XO with no luck). Overall, I left feeling jealous of all you guys in Montreal.

First was Margot at XO ($200/ hour). She's from France but does speak good English. Not a drop-dead gorgeous but cute enough. She has big, luscious lips. Thought her services were excellent though: DFK, DT BBBJ CIM, rimming, MSOG. Overall, excellent, and would recommend.

Second was Jordan from Nadya's ($200/ hour). This girl was truly beautiful. Service was not as good however (though not bad). LFK only. She interrupted the proceedings to remind me that CIM was an extra $50 -- ouch. I suppose I appreciate the warning, but kind of killed the mood. She is also a clock watcher -- and is very careful to include your shower time in the hour. With 15 minutes to go she was reminding that if I wanted to take another shower I probably would be able to finish Round 2! Overall, not a GFE. Beautiful girl, but I think better options. Would not repeat.

Finally saw Meghan from XO ($220/ hour). Beautiful, petite, blonde. Definitely worth the extra $. Excellent service: DFK BBBJ CIM, rimming, DATY. Highly recommend, though I wish I could keep her to myself.

Already looking forward to my next trip to Montreal.

In some ways, I prefer the FKK scene in Germany since there are never any doubts about the looks for the girl you are going to be with, but I can't complain at all about Montreal.

[Jmioffe]

I'm going to give Montreal another try. I've read the Omni is the best for these types of assignations, but I don't want to book a room there. I'll be there for a five-day pleasure trip, and I don't want to just be in a room with a bed that I sexed a working girl on. Plus, the Omni is a little pricey at $200 a night.

I know Airbnbs can be touchy since many people don't want to rent their bed to someone who will have sex on it, so I'm mainly looking for absentee landlord-type Airbnbs, which will have less things that a working girl can steal too. Any recommendations? Or I might have to do incall. Thanks!

[Sun Devil]

I went to this place. A 30 minute massage cost $60 and naked HJ $90. The girl I had Shetha?, from Armenia, didn't want to partake in FS. Won't recommend due to this lack of service. Location on 1637St. Catherine is good for eating out due to plethora of restaurants in the area.

[BigTwins]

How many DUI's do you have. If you have 2 or more you are banned for life and need special permission to return to Canada.

How would they even know if it's been so long. I ran a pretty thorough background check on myself and nothing came up. Even the state police found nothing.

[Mongerer88]

Mongerer88, thanks for your response. Montreal is definitely interesting territory. I know that economic challenges and legal tolerance are two keys to the equation in creating a good mongering city, but I think there is a cultural element that makes the great ones. Having been out with Brazilian colleagues in Brazil, they might enjoy the hobby but they get a bit self-conscious if you ask them why there is so much action. Many of them don't like Brazil portrayed as an hyper-sexual country.

While Quebec faces economic challenges it is still very much a first world region, so there must be an underlying cultural catalyst that triggers young, attractive Quebecoise to slip into the game. I read somewhere that the Quebecois' liberal sexual attitudes can be traced to a 1960 social revolution that countered extremely conservative Catholic attitudes. Quebec women were also second class citizens not gaining the right to vote until 1940. I'm guessing birth control and abortion were outlawed for a long time within the province.

Someone also wrote that the original French settlers came without women and banged the natives with less regard for monogamy and matrimony. Later, the French King rounded up French working girls and sent them to Quebec. If that's true, that could possibly explain some of the latent sexual attitudes. This story kind of mirrors the early Portuguese history in Brazil, but it seems more like folklore in the case of Quebec.

One last, but important question, is it still fair to assume law enforcement is not too interested in what goes on behind closed doors? Some independents are asking for references, but I'm hoping they're concerned about my reputation and their safety not law enforcement.

Old article, and the new law has changed the strip joint scene, but it touches on your question.

https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/...l_culture.html

I am not sure it is possible to exactly figure these things out. Certain countries even in Europe are much more openly sexual than the country next door. Even amongst the sexually open countries in Europe, some are BBBJ for sex workers, others you can rarely avoid CBJs. I have never been able to figure it out. I just appreciate what is available.

And yes, there has so far been no law enforcement interest in consensual sex worker / John transactions behind closed doors. The independents do screening because they feel it is a necessary safety mechanism. Agencies do little or no screening for hotel guests. Presumably driving her to the hotel, having her call at the beginning and end of the session, and picking her up at the hotel is enough security. For first time customers, they might insist that you call at least once from the hotel room to make sure you aren't a prankster.

[WyattEarp]

Mongerer88, thanks for your response. Montreal is definitely interesting territory. I know that economic challenges and legal tolerance are two keys to the equation in creating a good mongering city, but I think there is a cultural element that makes the great ones. Having been out with Brazilian colleagues in Brazil, they might enjoy the hobby but they get a bit self-conscious if you ask them why there is so much action. Many of them don't like Brazil portrayed as an hyper-sexual country.

While Quebec faces economic challenges it is still very much a first world region, so there must be an underlying cultural catalyst that triggers young, attractive Quebecoise to slip into the game. I read somewhere that the Quebecois' liberal sexual attitudes can be traced to a 1960 social revolution that countered extremely conservative Catholic attitudes. Quebec women were also second class citizens not gaining the right to vote until 1940. I'm guessing birth control and abortion were outlawed for a long time within the province.

Someone also wrote that the original French settlers came without women and banged the natives with less regard for monogamy and matrimony. Later, the French King rounded up French working girls and sent them to Quebec. If that's true, that could possibly explain some of the latent sexual attitudes. This story kind of mirrors the early Portuguese history in Brazil, but it seems more like folklore in the case of Quebec.

One last, but important question, is it still fair to assume law enforcement is not too interested in what goes on behind closed doors? Some independents are asking for references, but I'm hoping they're concerned about my reputation and their safety not law enforcement.

[Mongerer88]

I've been curious about Montreal and Canada for awhile now. Both decent prices and legal ambivalence are a strong motivator.

I quickly figured out several MTL agencies have large rosters with many attractive, younger women. It seems they can guarantee young rookie women a steady flow of fans when they come up to the majors. Many seem to stay on agency rosters for a year or two even if they move from one team or another. The MTL fans (mongers) rave about their favorite players and teams even frowning about free agents driving up the prices and not playing the game as hard as the young players. I'm using the baseball analogy because the MTL agency business model seems to have some similarity to Major League Baseball. I would say some hot independents seem to be very highly-regarded and offer more candid glimpses of their faces and bodies.

I also noticed that the Toronto boards and Western Canada boards seem to note a Great Montreal Escort Migration westward in the years ensuing the 2008/2009 financial crisis. Interesting, many Quebecoise independents tour Toronto and smaller Western cities on a continuous loop. Some never work in MTL. It appears there is some good money for independents warming up those Oil boys in Alberta and those Prairie boys in Winnipeg on those cold Canadian nights. I'm guessing this migration was initially triggered by Quebec economic conditions and intense competition from the MTL agencies.

I would be curious to hear other's opinions on why Quebec is such ripe recruiting ground for lovely, young escorts. There seems to be a steady, steady flow of new talent.

You pretty much nailed it.

Montreal's economy is weaker than the rest of Canada's, especially after the oil sands and banking boom that benefited everywhere but Montreal.

A tremendous number of the Montreal escorts go to Montreal for college or vocational training or first jobs after leaving the banality of the small villages in Quebec. Most are bilingual, but more comfortable with French than English. So they don't leave for the English-only places far away from family and friends in droves.

Montreal is a friendly party-town, so it is a lot more fun than where they often grew up. Escort work pays a lot more than most other jobs, but most of the customers are local and that keeps the prices a lot lower than Toronto or Vancouver, since the median income in Quebec is lower for customers too.

A lot of the Montreal ladies who tour other parts of Canada are usually older. The younger ladies who work at agencies don't seem to tour as much, although I know of at least one star who moved to Toronto to earn more and pursue law school. She was very bilingual and very busty, so I suspect she is an excellent lawyer by now.

It seems to work for everyone, and a lot of ladies work for the same agency throughout college and / or while they are working at lower-wage day jobs. I think most everything is more expensive in Toronto and Vancouver in comparison to Montreal, not just sex. And the Montreal prices have been going up recently. It used to be that the independents were usually older, but a group of younger independents calling themselves the "with love" group broke off from a couple of agencies and raised their rates.