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  1. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by Wolvenvacht  [View Original Post]
    If I were you, I'd have a good night's sleep, get rid of my jetlag and have full energy to properly explore the night spots next day.
    I think you underestimate how desperate we can get for a fuck after not having had one for weeks. Jet lag is greatly dependent on where you fly in from, whether any sleep was had, etc. , and often hits a day or two later. If fly in from the USA for example, at 1 AM, your body clock will think it is just after midday. So maybe not the right time to sleep. If fly in from Australia, it might be a bit late for a fuck, but won't stop someone really horny.

    Hotel 1 am. No problem. I would go get a girl from a bar or streetwalker or anything still open. It might be best to take a cheap alternative first up, in case it disappoints, or the guy's energy levels are not at peak.

  2. #25
    Quote Originally Posted by JudeBright  [View Original Post]
    Will visit BKK for the first time and landing in airport by 11:10 pm. I guess I may not be able to get in my hotel 1 am. I may be tired to go out to gogo or freelance, and think it is better to get escort services. I have looking at your web and I think it would be helpful to specify what each girl will do and will not do, such as DFK, BBBJ, rim, a level etc. What if I booked on line and I do not like the look when I see the girl in person, can I cancel it?

    Thk.

    Jb.
    Arriving late in Bangkok, probably after a long flight, maybe tired and on your first visit to the City of Angels. And you want to throw your happiness into the arms of a computer program, probably photoshopped pictures and an unknown girl? All that for expensive prices?

    If I were you, I'd have a good night's sleep, get rid of my jetlag and have full energy to properly explore the night spots next day.

  3. #24
    I have used twice this website already and I am pretty satisfied with their services.

    The process is very simple, you can see what girls are available. They are very responsive: as soon as the booking form was completed I received a phone call to my room for confirmation; impressive.

    The prices can be more interesting than those found on the agencies' website but not always.

    If you want to plan your trip early, then it is better to contact the agency directly.

  4. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by JudeBright  [View Original Post]
    I have looking at your web and I think it would be helpful to specify what each girl will do and will not do, such as DFK, BBBJ, rim, a level etc. What if I booked on line and I do not like the look when I see the girl in person, can I cancel it?

    Thk.

    Jb.
    Unless or until SmoociApp replies to your post, I think the answers to your questions are kind of easy as smooci exists currently; If you click on the girl's name on the smooci website you will see more pics of her and a list of activities the girl claims she will do, i. e. DFK, BBBJ, CIM, Rimming, etc.

    And since there is no requirement for the customer to pay smooci in advance for the girl's services upon booking and she will be asking you to pay her directly upon arrival, whatever happens if you do not like the way she looks or behaves and choose to cancel is pretty much up to you. That includes either giving her nothing, enough for taxi fare or the full amount she cited on her smooci page just for the hell of it.

    I assume the girl can cancel upon arrival and seeing us, too. And if she does decide to cancel, I also assume she isn't going to throw in a free quickie BBBJ on the spot anyway just so we won't feel like she and smooci wasted our time, right?

  5. #22

    They do specify what each girl will do and will not do to a certain point

    Quote Originally Posted by JudeBright  [View Original Post]
    Will visit BKK for the first time and landing in airport by 11:10 pm. I guess I may not be able to get in my hotel 1 am. I may be tired to go out to gogo or freelance, and think it is better to get escort services. I have looking at your web and I think it would be helpful to specify what each girl will do and will not do, such as DFK, BBBJ, rim, a level etc. What if I booked on line and I do not like the look when I see the girl in person, can I cancel it?

    Thk.

    Jb.
    Hi JB,

    They do specify that crucial information, to a certain point.

    Random profile. Carla.

    BBBJ CIM COB COF Couples DFK Full Service Rimming.

  6. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by BionicMan  [View Original Post]
    To whom are you writing this?
    I thought "Originally Posted by SmoociApp " is the person who running the Smooci.

    Jb.

  7. #20
    Quote Originally Posted by BionicMan  [View Original Post]
    To whom are you writing this?
    Obviously to anyone who can provide a good answer, which is not me. Obviously "your web" refers to someone running Smooci or similar. Not all parts of a post need to be addressed to exactly the same person.

  8. #19
    Quote Originally Posted by JudeBright  [View Original Post]
    Will visit BKK for the first time and landing in airport by 11:10 pm. I guess I may not be able to get in my hotel 1 am. I may be tired to go out to gogo or freelance, and think it is better to get escort services. I have looking at your web and I think it would be helpful to specify what each girl will do and will not do, such as DFK, BBBJ, rim, a level etc. What if I booked on line and I do not like the look when I see the girl in person, can I cancel it?

    Thk.

    Jb.
    To whom are you writing this?

  9. #18
    Quote Originally Posted by SmoociApp  [View Original Post]
    Firstly, thanks for all your comments and feedback, we really do take it all on board.

    achieve this.
    Will visit BKK for the first time and landing in airport by 11:10 pm. I guess I may not be able to get in my hotel 1 am. I may be tired to go out to gogo or freelance, and think it is better to get escort services. I have looking at your web and I think it would be helpful to specify what each girl will do and will not do, such as DFK, BBBJ, rim, a level etc. What if I booked on line and I do not like the look when I see the girl in person, can I cancel it?

    Thk.

    Jb.

  10. #17
    Quote Originally Posted by Bkkdog  [View Original Post]
    That's great. If you don't mind I will add the information that you sent to me to enhance this post.

    I asked Smooci what is the benefit of using their service instead booking with the agency directly. They replied with a very detailed and informative answer. The good news is I will be booking with them next week. As far I can see, there is no app but the website operates like an app. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Anyways, here's their reply:

    That is a difficult question to answer, and it really depends on the circumstances. In some cases it may be better to book directly with the agency, especially if you have unique circumstances, wish to book for longer than 24 hours, or if you would like to book more than 4 hours in advance.

    In some cases it may be advantageous to book through smooci, for example you may get a better price than going direct to the agency; you may wish to use our rating service to select your compaion or have the opportunity to rate your experience after (this is still new but some companions already have a rating); through our service you will also get a large selection of companions from several agencies which you can use to compare services and prices;...
    Bkkdog is a senior member in here and so I guess your words can be trusted. As many mentioned before, need the seniors to verified.

    Anyway, I myself think smooci might be a good choice. They are like big C or HOMEPRO. LOL. Just a funny thoughts though.

    Browse through the site last night and still considering to try, came across a few escorts at the rates 2 hrs 3000 thb and 1 HR at 2400 thb. Seriously. If more of this rates are on more of the girls listed in smooci, you guys will be busy I guess. 2 hrs 3000 thb with 2 shots allows (correct me if I'm wrong) without bar fines, without paying tips, without buying own drinks, without taxi fares to and fro, without ladies drink and etc. Well worth it IMO. May not apply to others who just insist on eye candy.

  11. #16

    Finally!

    Quote Originally Posted by SmoociApp  [View Original Post]
    Firstly, thanks for all your comments and feedback, we really do take it all on board.

    Please note that Smooci is very far from being a completed product, and there are a lot of positive things going on behind the scenes as we speak.

    Very basically, Smooci is a platform for Escort agencies and independents to offer their services and users to make instant bookings. Smooci has a live api system which is retrieving live information on the availability of the companion directly from their app. (each companion has their own app), the benefit of this is users will not get the call and say. I am sorry, this companion is not available. Or worst, the agency performs a bait and switch on you. With smooci, we do have technical algorithms in place to check for bait and switch. Booking at odd hours before would have been tough, but with Smooci, the agency does not have to stay up to facilitate late night bookings as the companion is able to perform the check, and confirm the booking all by themselves.

    Re pricing: We do not set or control pricing. Agencies and independents are free to control their own pricing. We have encouraged agencies to offer competitive pricing on our platform, and the feedback has been very positive, with most agencies seeing an increase in bookings and they have continued their initial price structure on smooci.

    One important thing to note is that our companion app (the app needed for independent Escorts to work on smooci and manage their profile and bookings) is still being tested and updated and is not ready to be released, hence we currently only have agency Escorts on our platform. Once this app is ready for release we will then open up to independent Escorts, which will mean more companions and a wide range of pricing (and what we hope will be more competitive pricing in general). We have a database of interested independents ready to be added to the platform as soon as we are happy to release the independent app to them but at the moment we cannot confirm when this will be.

    Benefits to users (long term):

    - Competitive pricing (in the long term we hope that our platform will create a more competitively priced market, with agency escorts and independents all competing on a more even playing field).

    - The ability to search multiple agencies and independents in one place with instant availability checks and booking confirmation through our api.

    - Higher standards. In the long term we hope the even playing field and rating system will help highlight the best companions and raise standards in general. We will also be introducing a vetting and verification system for all companions, and try to tackle the issue of heavily photoshopped profile pictures.

    - Improved customer service with 24/7 support.

    - GPS tracking. This additional feature allows users to track their companions to their door, allowing for more accurate arrival times.

    Benefits to Escort agencies:

    - A larger customer base and brand building opportunities.

    - Automated booking. Meaning 24/7 bookings, client verification etc. Agencies can operate around the clock with less staff and outgoing costs.

    - The opportunity to build reputation through good service.

    Benefits to Independent escorts (long term):

    - The chance to compete with agency Escorts.

    - Access to a large customer base.

    - The tools to manage and organize themselves on a whole new level (price, availability, booking records, schedule).

    Again, please note that Smooci is still very much work in process with a lot of improvements to come, and we are very much open to all feedback. Our goal is to improve the Escort booking experience for both the users and companions, creating higher standards and more healthy competition within the markets, and we wish to work with both in order to achieve this.
    That's great. If you don't mind I will add the information that you sent to me to enhance this post.

    I asked Smooci what is the benefit of using their service instead booking with the agency directly. They replied with a very detailed and informative answer. The good news is I will be booking with them next week. As far I can see, there is no app but the website operates like an app. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Anyways, here's their reply:

    That is a difficult question to answer, and it really depends on the circumstances. In some cases it may be better to book directly with the agency, especially if you have unique circumstances, wish to book for longer than 24 hours, or if you would like to book more than 4 hours in advance.

    In some cases it may be advantageous to book through smooci, for example you may get a better price than going direct to the agency; you may wish to use our rating service to select your compaion or have the opportunity to rate your experience after (this is still new but some companions already have a rating); through our service you will also get a large selection of companions from several agencies which you can use to compare services and prices; and you may also enjoy using our GPS tracking system which is available on most bookings.

    We are a new service and still developing, but our aim is to create higher standards through our verification and rating system, and to create higher standards, reliable customer services, and more competitive rates, through sharing our tools and creating an even playing field.

    You can also follow our progress through our blog, which we will aim to keep our users uptodate on our progress http://blog.smooci.com/.



    Thanks again to smooci for the excellent reply. It only took a few hours for them to reply to my email and they were very polite even when knowing I was not making a booking at that time.

  12. #15
    Firstly, thanks for all your comments and feedback, we really do take it all on board.

    Please note that Smooci is very far from being a completed product, and there are a lot of positive things going on behind the scenes as we speak.

    Very basically, Smooci is a platform for Escort agencies and independents to offer their services and users to make instant bookings. Smooci has a live api system which is retrieving live information on the availability of the companion directly from their app. (each companion has their own app), the benefit of this is users will not get the call and say. I am sorry, this companion is not available. Or worst, the agency performs a bait and switch on you. With smooci, we do have technical algorithms in place to check for bait and switch. Booking at odd hours before would have been tough, but with Smooci, the agency does not have to stay up to facilitate late night bookings as the companion is able to perform the check, and confirm the booking all by themselves.

    Re pricing: We do not set or control pricing. Agencies and independents are free to control their own pricing. We have encouraged agencies to offer competitive pricing on our platform, and the feedback has been very positive, with most agencies seeing an increase in bookings and they have continued their initial price structure on smooci.

    One important thing to note is that our companion app (the app needed for independent Escorts to work on smooci and manage their profile and bookings) is still being tested and updated and is not ready to be released, hence we currently only have agency Escorts on our platform. Once this app is ready for release we will then open up to independent Escorts, which will mean more companions and a wide range of pricing (and what we hope will be more competitive pricing in general). We have a database of interested independents ready to be added to the platform as soon as we are happy to release the independent app to them but at the moment we cannot confirm when this will be.

    Benefits to users (long term):

    - Competitive pricing (in the long term we hope that our platform will create a more competitively priced market, with agency escorts and independents all competing on a more even playing field).

    - The ability to search multiple agencies and independents in one place with instant availability checks and booking confirmation through our api.

    - Higher standards. In the long term we hope the even playing field and rating system will help highlight the best companions and raise standards in general. We will also be introducing a vetting and verification system for all companions, and try to tackle the issue of heavily photoshopped profile pictures.

    - Improved customer service with 24/7 support.

    - GPS tracking. This additional feature allows users to track their companions to their door, allowing for more accurate arrival times.

    Benefits to Escort agencies:

    - A larger customer base and brand building opportunities.

    - Automated booking. Meaning 24/7 bookings, client verification etc. Agencies can operate around the clock with less staff and outgoing costs.

    - The opportunity to build reputation through good service.

    Benefits to Independent escorts (long term):

    - The chance to compete with agency Escorts.

    - Access to a large customer base.

    - The tools to manage and organize themselves on a whole new level (price, availability, booking records, schedule).

    Again, please note that Smooci is still very much work in process with a lot of improvements to come, and we are very much open to all feedback. Our goal is to improve the Escort booking experience for both the users and companions, creating higher standards and more healthy competition within the markets, and we wish to work with both in order to achieve this.

  13. #14

    Good customer service

    Quote Originally Posted by Crocodilexp  [View Original Post]
    I can't see how involving an agency (which must somehow get a cut) helps attract either girls or customers. It doesn't do much for quality quality either. Perhaps it's necessary as a first step to getting a decent number of girls, but unless Smooci ditches the agencies and manages to attract independents, they'll remain stuck with the small piece of a tiny escort-service niche.

    As for guarantees and flakiness, there are none, ever. That's what a good app workflow and review system can supposedly mitigate, although never reliably fix. A smartphone app could actually track the girl's on-time performance with good accuracy without relying on manual reviews. In addition, it could set up an incentive such as the girl making a small deposit when accepting a booking, which is returned when the customer confirms the session has started (but not if she's too late or cancels). Could be as little as 100 baht, loss aversion is a strong motivator.
    Their business model is good customer service and that seems to translate into something as simple as a successful booking. It seems to be the convenience of an uber style escort booking without the actual app, see my screen shot. I don't see the need or use for it but obviously the escort agencies are having issues with successful bookings so this middle man is required? Not sure I buy that.

    It would be nice if the owner would chime in with his ideas so we all can understand, but sadly he's silent! I wonder why?

    **** update****
    I did compare the rates for some of the girls with their agency and some are cheaper. For example Pure Bangkok escorts prices are 1000 Baht cheaper so that's a good start.
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  14. #13
    Quote Originally Posted by Syzygies  [View Original Post]
    Is the girl Agency relevant at all? How does that work? I mean some girls work for multiple agencies (unless they all have the same owner) and do freelance too.

    However there is no guarantee the girl will actually go through with it. Something may come up. So I can identify with Idea to meet the girl in just 1 hour to increase chance she will not change her mind. Girls are flaky and unreliable. Even if she does show up, likely to be not on time at all.
    I can't see how involving an agency (which must somehow get a cut) helps attract either girls or customers. It doesn't do much for quality quality either. Perhaps it's necessary as a first step to getting a decent number of girls, but unless Smooci ditches the agencies and manages to attract independents, they'll remain stuck with the small piece of a tiny escort-service niche.

    As for guarantees and flakiness, there are none, ever. That's what a good app workflow and review system can supposedly mitigate, although never reliably fix. A smartphone app could actually track the girl's on-time performance with good accuracy without relying on manual reviews. In addition, it could set up an incentive such as the girl making a small deposit when accepting a booking, which is returned when the customer confirms the session has started (but not if she's too late or cancels). Could be as little as 100 baht, loss aversion is a strong motivator.

  15. #12
    Quote Originally Posted by Crocodilexp  [View Original Post]
    At the moment, Smooci wedged itself firmly itself into the escort market (a tiny niche in Bangkok), providing a discount over escort sites, but still at a 50-100% markup over freelancer rates, and a 30-50% markup over over oily massage girl rates. At the latter, the benefit of choosing in person and impulse buys are a huge advantage, and at PSE oilies like Snow White service guarantees / standards are strong as well (you can get 2 h with unlimited shots for 2300).

    To succeed, an online booking system has to go mass market, both with customers and with providers. Sites like this strongly depend on network effects -- the more customers there are the more girls it attracts and vice versa.
    The niche seems tiny. Guys wanting an escort urgently within 4 hours or willing to leave it till the last 4 hours and take pot luck with what girls are available, or guys monitoring continually but willing to wait a long time till actually pull the trigger. Personally I would not fit any of these categories. Others might.

    Sure its major market should be people who already use Escorts, I don't know how big that market is. Most of them will not be on ISG. Also the discount tries to tempt some guys not normally taking Escorts, but with added pressure to choose something in a hurry without much research about the target girl.

    The 4 hour time slot is clearly the key, allowing girls to get a customer for reduced rate who normally would not have one at such short notice. I fear the quality of the girls available may not be the greatest compared to very best Escort girls. You get what you pay for. Ratings show the hit and miss nature of it all.

    Some of us have become less and less keen to take the gamble of how good the girl will be preferring more reliable approaches to choosing girls, such as face to face conversation, or reliable massage shops.

    Is this App going to work for really cautious guys, very choosy about girl characteristics, probably not? Pull in guys willing to try anything, sucked in by the discount. Anything like this needs significant time to build into something successful. Patience needed and teething troubles to be expected.

    The real key is setting up a win / win model for girl and customer and maybe agency and having extremely low overheads.

    Is the girl Agency relevant at all? How does that work? I mean some girls work for multiple agencies (unless they all have the same owner) and do freelance too.

    Privately I might make an arrangement to meet some girl tomorrow, by LINE contact (no agency involved). However there is no guarantee the girl will actually go through with it. Something may come up. So I can identify with Idea to meet the girl in just 1 hour to increase chance she will not change her mind. Girls are flaky and unreliable. Even if she does show up, likely to be not on time at all. The advantage is the girl and her performance is known already. if she shows up. Always have to have backup plans. LOL

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