Smooci Advertiser Thread

[Gargano19]

Although one will pay a little more, I think the 2 hours 2 pops design has advantage. My experience is that the girls tend to stick around in the bed longer and not hurry to leave or clean up. I can cuddle with and talk to the girls even if I just intend to have one pop. Some will just lie in bed to play with their phone and that is just fine with me.

Yes 2 hours is perfect time. When I go to massage shops and pick a repeat, I prefer 2 hours session.

[Nounce]

Pretty much the same.

Independents rarely ask for up-front. But those who are looking for pse, agency girls would be better option sometimes.

Although one will pay a little more, I think the 2 hours 2 pops design has advantage. My experience is that the girls tend to stick around in the bed longer and not hurry to leave or clean up. I can cuddle with and talk to the girls even if I just intend to have one pop. Some will just lie in bed to play with their phone and that is just fine with me.

[Gargano19]

I mostly go with independents because I guess the ratings are more reliable. I do plan to pay up front but the girls never asked.

Pretty much the same.

Independents rarely ask for up-front. But those who are looking for pse, agency girls would be better option sometimes.

[CzarNicholas]

That is so absurdly high that you could build a business model around causing the customer to cancel (for instance, send your grandmother). Even these days, there's a fair number of girls who give a full ST for 1,000 baht.

A fair escort cancellation fee would be 300 baht or so. Even that is way too generous in most cases (equal to the daily minimum wage), but let's be generous and assume she needs to commute from Samut Prakan.

Do customers get to leave a rating if they cancel a session with a girl?

Its a win / win / win / win for them all day long.

And I'm sure some guys are going to say fuck it she isn't very good but she's already here if I send her away it will cost me a 1000, "fuck it".

I think ill just bite the bullet and do her anyway!

Also they are trying to filter out the smart mongers from the meek.

Anyone willing to jump thru any hoop is their ideal demographic.

Sounds like Pandora's box to me!

[Nounce]

A girl once asked me to pay before getting started (which I usually do anyway) so that she can notify her agency.

Regarding rating, whether there should be rating or not, as we're paying customers.

Uber also have rating system for riders. Once I was 3. 6, and a driver cancelled my ride because of my low rating.

I mostly go with independents because I guess the ratings are more reliable. I do plan to pay up front but the girls never asked.

[Gargano19]

Good point, I have not thought about it, haha. Most ads says 10 minutes but I have seen 1 ad say 5 minute. I would avoid 5 minutes and higher than average cancellation fee.

I am wondering how do they enforce it if someone decide not to make payment within 10 minutes or not to pay cancellation fee at all?

A girl once asked me to pay before getting started (which I usually do anyway) so that she can notify her agency.

Regarding rating, whether there should be rating or not, as we're paying customers.

Uber also have rating system for riders. Once I was 3. 6, and a driver cancelled my ride because of my low rating.

[Gargano19]

But a go-go girl had to travel all the way to the bar. Maybe it took her longer to get there and at greater expense than the girl you booked on Smooci spent to get to your hotel room.

On top of which she had to change out of her street clothes and into a skimpy bikini, shuffle around on a stage for 1-2 hours before getting called down for an up close interview, if she gets one at all that night.

Meanwhile, an inconsiderate customer might call her over and occupy the next hour of her only 5-6 hours of the night that she has a shot to be barfined. Unlike the Smooci girl who might be available for booking three times that number of hours in a day and night.

Are you really going to be so cruel and unthinking to call her over, take her out of the running for meeting a much kinder customer in the bar for that 45 minutes to an hour of her work shift and not feel compelled to give her a 1,000-2,000 baht Cancellation Fee?

No wonder mamasans at go-go bars are more and more often demanding full Payment Upfront for the girl along with the barfine to protect those girls from such cruel and unthinking customers. We already have bars being thoughtful enough to demand we buy TWO lady drinks just to call over some of those poor girls in the bars to sit with us.

Hopefully, it is only a matter of time before they start adding a hefty Cancellation Fee for any customers so selfish as to decide what the girl offers in a take out after negotiation and checking out the chemistry does not suit their fancy enough to Pay the whole sum Upfront.

A very weird comparison.

Gogo girl's job is to go to bar, an escort's job is not to come to my room, unless I book her.

Asking for 2 lady drinks before asking for lady in gogo, yes I have been here. And it's harsh but just a reaction to action.

Noone talks about it in the forum, but so many guys just call the girl to talk to her and have "fun", with no intention of paying barfine. These bars have to make money, and if they start to have influx of these customers who have no intention to pay other than for couple of beers. Then they have to enforce harsh measures like entry fee or some threshold amount to pay on drinks before talking to girl.

[Nounce]

Nounce, you might be flirting dangerously close to getting a low Star Rating and then having problems getting a booking through Smooci again with that behavior

Good point, I have not thought about it, haha. Most ads says 10 minutes but I have seen 1 ad say 5 minute. I would avoid 5 minutes and higher than average cancellation fee.

I am wondering how do they enforce it if someone decide not to make payment within 10 minutes or not to pay cancellation fee at all?

[Franciscass]

Do you pay for car repair upfront?.

It's simple if the girls are upfront about their age, their pics are a reasonable representation of how they look and yes this can be subjective and the client knows when you book its payment upfront they you pay upfront. If you don't want to then don't book in the first place.

On the other hand if who's standing there when you open the door doesn't come close to who was on the site either in age or appearance no way should you be penalized by having to cough up 1000 to 2000 baht. Girls who misrepresent their age or appearance have only themselves to blame when the client refuses to continue with the booking. A 200 taxi fare is more than fair.

This is why age verification and recent unphotoshopped pics should be a priority for any escort booking site.

The correlation between service and paying before or after has been discussed at length with different views. Personally I don't feel paying upfront equals an inferior experience so when I have to I. E. Escorts soapies I do so willingly.

[Gargano19]

That is so absurdly high that you could build a business model around causing the customer to cancel (for instance, send your grandmother). Even these days, there's a fair number of girls who give a full ST for 1,000 baht.

A fair escort cancellation fee would be 300 baht or so. Even that is way too generous in most cases (equal to the daily minimum wage), but let's be generous and assume she needs to commute from Samut Prakan.

Do customers get to leave a rating if they cancel a session with a girl?

If cancellation policy is just to compensate let's say the taxi fare, then 200-300 are enough. But for this small amount, users will cancel a lot more showing cold feet at last moment. And if there started to happen more cancelled bookings than actual bookings on Smooci platform, not a lot of agency or indies are going to be on it. It's just annoying, getting the booking message, getting ready, booking cab, and on half-way, oops it's cancelled here is your 300 thb.

The role of cancellation fee is not just to compensate for expenses happened during that timeframe, but actually to reduce the amount of potential cancellation, reasonably.

[Member #4698]

The ad says pay up front but I have never encountered a girl ask to be paid up front in person.

Smooci operates as a network facilitator arranging for customers and working girls to get together. Smooci girls are basically independent agents and are pretty free to do it their way as opposed to how girls work in a massage parlor directly under managerial control or even in a Go Go.

I recently took a Smooci girl, my 1st escort ever, on my 1st night back in Manila. It was an interesting session and I enjoyed it, so I will post a full report over in the Manila forum, but to the point: the girl came over to my hotel, we texted back and forth before I made the date and while she was in the taxi, upon her arrival there was no mention of payment, she looked like her photos, we had sex, and I paid her just before I escorted her down to a taxi. She was happy with the session and so was I. We still text from time to time. A couple of days later I posted a positive review of her in Smooci. But again, she did not act like a Smooci employee, she acted like an independent contractor.

Smooci made money on the transaction through my purchase of a 3-day premium subscription which I recommend to those planning to use its services here or in Manila. The cancellation penalty is stiff hence the usefulness of the premium subscription feature which allows the customer and girl to text back and forth before making a decision. The premium subscription also provides the customer access to all the reviews which help lower the risk as well. I still prefer meeting girls out in the real world by a wide, wide margin, but I will use Smooci again under the right circumstances like a late arrival, to tired to go out, a bar holiday or something similar. It's ok and it works.

[EihTooms]

The ad says pay up front but I have never encountered a girl ask to be paid up front in person.
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Nounce, you might be flirting dangerously close to getting a low Star Rating and then having problems getting a booking through Smooci again with that behavior.

From a Smooci profile just now:

Payment method
Payment to be made within 10 minutes of arrival in local currency.

Cancellation policy
Cancellation on arrival 1,500 THB.

Note, the policy does not say "upon request." It says, "to be made."

You have no idea how rankled those girls are that you put them in the uncomfortably awkward position of actually having to ask you to comply with their clearly stated policy.

Of course, the sword cuts both ways, or should. If a girl's profile states she provides BBBJ yet when the moment calls for it, is perfect for it when her face is inches away from my willy but instead she just stares at it waiting for me to literally ask her to do it, at least one Star is about to fall on her Rating.

And if she dawdles and stalls, pretends not to hear or to be distracted by the sound of a squirrel skittering across the drapes, at least two Stars are about to fall for her this night.

Fair is fair.

[Ixgzca]

That is so absurdly high that you could build a business model around causing the customer to cancel (for instance, send your grandmother). Even these days, there's a fair number of girls who give a full ST for 1,000 baht.

A fair escort cancellation fee would be 300 baht or so. Even that is way too generous in most cases (equal to the daily minimum wage), but let's be generous and assume she needs to commute from Samut Prakan.

Do customers get to leave a rating if they cancel a session with a girl?

I tell them if it's not the same girl then I won't pay. Since I started saying that no one has pulled bait and switch on me since.

[Nounce]

Do you pay for car repair upfront? How about other services?

Car repair shop will have your car. Do you expect to get your car back without paying.

Lawyers will ask some form of up front payment.

[Nounce]

The ad says pay up front but I have never encountered a girl ask to be paid up front in person.

Many places ask for up front payment. The quality of service depends more on the management. That is why the Japaneses managed places provide better service.