Smooci Advertiser Thread

[Member #4591]

I have used Smooci from the beginning and I my findings are as follows:

Good points: The customer service from Smooci has been outstanding. I've always received a call if the lady was running late and assistance with inaccurate GPS addresses and seemless verification of my credentials were always handled with the utmost privacy when confirming my bookings with my hotel or condo switch board. I always received good service from the ladies other than most being very condom conscious. I have never seen a lady who looked nothing like her photos and most times I was not forced to pay upfront. I firmly believe the lady makes a judgment call as soon as she walks in the door. On the other hand, the money has always been set out in plain site and it was never touched until the session was over. It was never even discussed. There is a location option for free where all members, including non- premium members can see how far the ladies are away from you before you book. This helps gage how long she will be before she arrives. Also free members can see the last few reviews of the ladies if you click the share profile button. This brings her profile link up and if you copy and paste that link into your browser, you will see the latest reviews before you book the lady.

Bad points: I don't care what anyone says but Smooci does absolutely no age verification. I have it first hand knowledge that most of the ladies deduct 5-8 years off their age on their profile. Secondly, the website states the ladies don't pay any commission but they pay 450 Baht to Smooci and or their home agency. Finally, some bookings add a taxi fare depending on where the lady is located but it does not mention that in the rate quoted in the profiles.

Additional: I was able to take a look at the android Smooci app the ladies use. I got a look at the bookings screen and it shows the customer booking history, the commission the ladies must pay, and the reviews of the customer. These reviews for free members will show your name, email address and phone number. The girls can see all this.

[SmoociApp]

Russian Indy advertising on smooci. But it's she really Russian or just an Asian with blonde hair? Looks like blatent false advertising somewhere in the line, saying she's from the Russian federation gives the impression of a Caucasian girl.

We don't like to comment on individual companions, but this companion has had several bookings on Smooci, she gets very positive ratings and comments and no complaints, and her ID (nationality) seems correct.

We have quite a few non-Thai companions on Smooci in Bangkok (Russian, Eastern Europe, African, South American). If you are unsure if a companions natioanlity is correct please email us. If we receive any complaints that a nationality is incorrect we'd try to check it and verify it, or ask the companion to correct it.

[Breadman]

Russian Indy advertising on smooci. But it's she really Russian or just an Asian with blonde hair? Looks like blatent false advertising somewhere in the line, saying she's from the Russian federation gives the impression of a Caucasian girl.

[Tiandihui]

Since it seems smooci is paid by membership, not by bookings what's to stop an agency or even the girl herself from 'booking on' and making up false 5 star reviews under various fake emails and names at hotels to give herself a 5 star rating? I've only used outcall escorts in Canada and on occasion the service just sucked or the girl would try to skip out early. You could then call the agency and ask for a solution, in many cases they knew you were a member of the local review board and they would work to fix the issue. You could hand over the money knowing that something could be done. What do you do if things don't go as planned when you book thru smooci? What can they do anyway seeing that they aren't involved directly with the girl. Call the agency if its an agency girl? All comes down to handing over the money beforehand that bothers me.

In this era.

Want good service, we be a good customer too. This is something I always believe.

If paying before hands bother you, I think you never ever buy things from online and by from any fasts food restaurants.

Anyway from your doubts above on "What do you do if things don't go as planned when you book thru smooci?" I always booked agency's girls from smooci and not the independent.

I can call the agency if there is any issues but for independent, they can just off the phone and disappear.

So I guess your main concern for paying before hand will apply to the independents rather to the agency's girls.

For agency's girls, there is always something to fall back on.

[EihTooms]

To suggest reviews should be written in a particular format to suit somebody else by giving detailed information on exactly how a particular service was provided is utterly ridiculous.

I agree. Yet that was the pitch for the kind of thing we would read in the essay type comments once it became obvious that a Star Rating system with no obvious reference to what was being rated other than "overall experience" (read: virtually nothing to do with whether or not the girl actually fully provided the requested services as described on her profile) would not actually rate those things. Users should not be expected to choose the words that would verify that the girl actually finished a service the way it was stated in her profile and compose sentences to convey it accordingly. That would be Smooci's job to compose within a set of examples the potential customer would be made unavoidably aware of before choosing a girl and reminded of again before giving her a Star Rating, no? Users don't have to rhapsodize and compose words to verify photo accuracy, right? Isn't it simply a matter of the user giving the photos an accuracy rating? The more effective way to accomplish this is with a Star Rating system, no words required by the person submitting the rating. But only if the users at least start out on the same page for what they are rating.

In fact, Smooci did initially provide a fairly good basic set of guidelines from which users could base their ratings rather specifically on "delivery of service" while leaving the essay portion to the things that, sure enough, wound up being about the extent of what users now write; "a nice experience", "a lovely girl", "maybe she was tired after a busy day" and so on. But then they disavowed those guidelines being used for that purpose and pretty much buried them deep into their website in a blog or whatever. That's when they and others suggested, oh, don't worry, those kinds of details will be found in the essay write-ups, no need for the Star Ratings to be so much about that. Remember? Well, most of the time now there is no reason to expect either the Star Ratings or the comments have much if anything to do with whether or not a girl fully delivered services as advertised and apparently a lot to do with whether or not she came across visually as expected and maintained a pleasant demeanor.

[Prothall]

We like to think we are cacthing any fake reviews but we continue to look into bookings which are supsicious or which are brought to our attention and will remove anything we are not sure about. Since the beginning we caught on to some of the tricks, and we use booking patterns, IP addresses, and the GPS movement (distance travelled, time at location, similar movements) to flag up suspicious activity.

We are trying to build a system where reviews and ratings are known to be trustworth and inturn have the escorts and agencies understand the importantce of having a good rating and positive comments. The system is by no means perfect but we are continuing to improve and working on new ideas and features, and we are very grateful for any feedback and ideas from users.

There is no real way to protect against this.

Reputation systems are by default broken. Sybil attacks are rather easy to employ, especially when there is money at stake.

Personally, I do not find that a huge problem: caveat emptor always applies.

Too glowing reviews or completely bad ones can mostly be ignored, in my experience.

Good to know you are on it, though, as some checking is better than none.

As long as people realise "trustworthy" in online reputation systems means "also keep a hold of common sense", it's fine with me. I take them as a rough guideline.

[Franciscass]

Kudos to Smooci on introducing age verification when possible. Pic verification is tricky. Even if the age of the pic can be established it doesn't mean a lot. There are so many free photo enhancement apps nowadays that can make you look years younger and a lot prettier.

I have no doubt that these guys are intent on making their app the most successful escort booking site on the net and are doing everything to enhance the experience for both customers and escorts so like some others I am confused as to why some would want to continuously find fault.

Yes the ignore button is there but why keep whining. To suggest reviews should be written in a particular format to suit somebody else by giving detailed information on exactly how a particular service was provided is utterly ridiculous. Customers are free to write reviews as they see fit and if anybody is not happy with that they should follow their own advice and simply ignore them.

I rarely use escorts but when I see an aged verified 23 year on Smooci that I like I'm in for 2 hours. Who knows I may even sign up for membership.

[SmoociApp]

Since it seems smooci is paid by membership, not by bookings what's to stop an agency or even the girl herself from 'booking on' and making up false 5 star reviews under various fake emails and names at hotels to give herself a 5 star rating? I've only used outcall escorts in Canada and on occasion the service just sucked or the girl would try to skip out early. You could then call the agency and ask for a solution, in many cases they knew you were a member of the local review board and they would work to fix the issue. You could hand over the money knowing that something could be done. What do you do if things don't go as planned when you book thru smooci? What can they do anyway seeing that they aren't involved directly with the girl. Call the agency if its an agency girl? All comes down to handing over the money beforehand that bothers me.

We like to think we are cacthing any fake reviews but we continue to look into bookings which are supsicious or which are brought to our attention and will remove anything we are not sure about. Since the beginning we caught on to some of the tricks, and we use booking patterns, IP addresses, and the GPS movement (distance travelled, time at location, similar movements) to flag up suspicious activity.

We are trying to build a system where reviews and ratings are known to be trustworth and inturn have the escorts and agencies understand the importantce of having a good rating and positive comments. The system is by no means perfect but we are continuing to improve and working on new ideas and features, and we are very grateful for any feedback and ideas from users.

[Paolo99]

All comes down to handing over the money beforehand that bothers me.

I've used them 5 times and never gave the money beforehand. Always paid in the end of session and never had any issue with the girls, but I was going with the flow and was not pushy about the service.

[Breadman]

As is often the case, you did not think through why I would ask the question I asked and possibly are not aware of what else was going on with regard to that very subject at the time. Posters on the Bangkok Escort Thread had been discussing the usefulness or not of the Smooci Star Rating system and the comments for the girls submitted by Smooci customers. Smooci users on that thread, not me, had been disparaging the comments on Smooci's site as essentially useless. My only observation on that thread after having read many of them was how generally non-specific they were about whether or not the girls actually delivered services listed on their profiles vs "a nice experience", "a lovely girl" and things like that, that one could easily take the glowing, positive comments along with a 5.0 Star Rating and still have no idea if those girls ever actually properly finished a, say, BBBJ+CIM.
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Since it seems smooci is paid by membership, not by bookings what's to stop an agency or even the girl herself from 'booking on' and making up false 5 star reviews under various fake emails and names at hotels to give herself a 5 star rating? I've only used outcall escorts in Canada and on occasion the service just sucked or the girl would try to skip out early. You could then call the agency and ask for a solution, in many cases they knew you were a member of the local review board and they would work to fix the issue. You could hand over the money knowing that something could be done. What do you do if things don't go as planned when you book thru smooci? What can they do anyway seeing that they aren't involved directly with the girl. Call the agency if its an agency girl? All comes down to handing over the money beforehand that bothers me.

[EihTooms]

ET asks some rather tedious and exaggerated questions. Don't worry. We don't all agree with his strange conclusions.

You are right to ignore his somewhat seemingly sarcastic probing questions. The forum is for answering only the questions that interest you.

As is often the case, you did not think through why I would ask the question I asked and possibly are not aware of what else was going on with regard to that very subject at the time. Posters on the Bangkok Escort Thread had been discussing the usefulness or not of the Smooci Star Rating system and the comments for the girls submitted by Smooci customers. Smooci users on that thread, not me, had been disparaging the comments on Smooci's site as essentially useless. My only observation on that thread after having read many of them was how generally non-specific they were about whether or not the girls actually delivered services listed on their profiles vs "a nice experience", "a lovely girl" and things like that, that one could easily take the glowing, positive comments along with a 5.0 Star Rating and still have no idea if those girls ever actually properly finished a, say, BBBJ+CIM.

So during that same time period a poster here used the term "mouth" in relation to how well a couple of Smooci girls pleased him, being seemingly very happy to share that highly useful detail with us here on this website. My question was if he had made a comment about them on the Smooci website and put it that way in the comments and, if so, that might be the first such specific and useful comment ever submitted about a Smooci girl from what I have read of those comments and what the other posters on the Bangkok Escort Thread suggested as well. I wasn't being sarcastic. I was actually trying to praise him for being blissfully and mercifully specific about a certain kind of service he got from those girls, something somewhat rare in the usual Smooci review comments. But apparently he had not. His choice. Fine. But which then prompted my question, why not? I believe that is a logical and very good question with a positive purpose and a point that even SmoociApp might want to address, assuming he has probably never read nor will he be likely to reply to posters discussing his service and those comments on another thread.

IMO, if there is some reason Smooci users are not comfortable about being as usefully specific about these things on the Smooci website as they are here, then that is something not only good for Smooci to know about and address for the sake of their customers and potential customers but also good for the Thai P4P scene in general which ultimately effects all of us since I do believe there is a ripple effect out from what girls (hundreds of them by now in Bangkok alone, including freelancers) in any aspect of the scene are praised and rewarded for even if one does not regularly partake of a particular bar, a particular shop, a particular online service and so on.

Otherwise, you are right and I totally agree with you, Syzy; anyone and everyone here should only answer the questions that interest them. No need to answer for any other reason, such as to unnecessarily critique the writing style or perceived motives of other posters. Neither you nor anyone else will be missed if you simply Ignore the ones that do not interest you. Honestly.

[SmoociApp]

I have just looked at an other Escort site in Bangkok. It says about the photos that " this site pulls information from the image data". This is because each photo on the site has a date printed on it to show when it was taken. Is this something that could be used by Smooci to ensure that the photos are not to old?

I'll pass this message on to our tech team and see what they say. We are looking for more and better ways to try give better photo accuracy, it's a challenege but we will keep working on it.

We have now launched age vwerification, which allow companions to verify their age buy allowing us to lock their age to their date of birth, afterwhich it will show 'verified' by their age. We launched this feature yesterday and over the coming weeks you should start to see companions with their age verified.

[WarmStone25]

I have just looked at an other Escort site in Bangkok. It says about the photos that " this site pulls information from the image data". This is because each photo on the site has a date printed on it to show when it was taken. Is this something that could be used by Smooci to ensure that the photos are not to old?

[Syzygies]

I submitted my reviews, but sorry that I did not use that exact phraseology. BTW, I have been a poster on this board for over a decade- I have no dog in this race, so drop the attitude with me.

ET asks some rather tedious and exaggerated questions. Don't worry. We don't all agree with his strange conclusions.

You are right to ignore his somewhat seemingly sarcastic probing questions. The forum is for answering only the questions that interest you.

[SmoociApp]

I tried booking with Smooci last time but got canceled within 15 - 20 minutes without stating any reason. Was it because I didn't purchase premium client membership?

I'm coming back to Bangkok next week and plan to join premium membership before arriving in Thailand so should I list the phone number in my country or the one in Thailand in order to use other features and book companions?

Also I want to ask if the companions do actually provide services they list on their profiles: COF, DFK?

All bookings should be received and treated in the same way. In cases where a companion is supicious that a client may be a timewaster or not genuine being a premium member should encourage them to treat the booking as genuine, but if there is no reason to have suspicion or no warnings then not being a premium member shouldn't hamper a booking.

Bookings are sent direct to the companions and if a companion declines the booking they have to select a reason why. If they haven't responded within 10 minutes the booking is auto declined and the client is also informed the reason.

Send us an email and we can look into it and check the reason why your booking was declined or cancelled contact@smooci.com.