Smooci Advertiser Thread

[Tiandihui]

Smooci is very simple app to use and a welcome new platform for booking escorts. It's not perfect but as somebody said it's a work in progress. I believe they want to get it right and welcome suggestions from the forum. Their policy of not allowing escorts to include unprotected sex on their profiles is both their right to do so and in my opinion a responsible position to take.

The success of a session with an escort starts with.

1. Is what you see when you open the door what you were expecting. Here I have some issues with Smooci in that I believe they should confirm from the ID card whether the age on the profile is correct or not and no it is not easy for the escort to get a fake card. As to whether the pic is old or has been photo shopped, this is more difficult to monitor.

2. Will she provide all the services she advertised plus any you specifically asked for in the booking? This needs to be confirmed before the session starts.t.

He just want everything to follow his style and his way. Its better to leave no reply to his comments. It will be a never ending fault finding.

[Franciscass]

Good info. May I ask if the two ladies you booked were each sporting a 4.0 or higher Star Ratings when you booked them, particularly the one that was so much older than her photos suggested and profile stated that you sent her on her way with 200 Baht taxi money?

It was a couple of months back. I was on a bender that day with a pal of mine so details are a bit sketchy. I booked both on the same day, the second after sending back the first. I've checked the Smooci site and cannot find the second girl at least as I remember her but I'm reasonably sure the first girl was Ngam who is rated 4.2.

[EihTooms]

The words that I used were " In my opinion to engage in this does not make sense". This is my personal opinion.

Yes, but you didn't say, "In my opinion, Providers should not be asked to engage in BBFS. " Your "In my opinion" statement came after you said the thing about what Providers should not be asked. And the sentence before it, "There are some safety factors for provider and user," appeared to be setting up that particular statement as an example of a safety issue you saw on their website. That is what I meant.

There are all kinds of details hidden deep in their Blog, Terms & conditions, Privacy policy, etc. that I doubt most customers of Smooci ever see or know about and I thought the thing you said about Providers not being asked for BBFS was one of them, that's all. Thanks for the clarification.

[Carpaccio18]

Smooci is very simple app to use and a welcome new platform for booking escorts. It's not perfect but as somebody said it's a work in progress. I believe they want to get it right and welcome suggestions from the forum. Their policy of not allowing escorts to include unprotected sex on their profiles is both their right to do so and in my opinion a responsible position to take.

The success of a session with an escort starts with.

1. Is what you see when you open the door what you were expecting. Here I have some issues with Smooci in that I believe they should confirm from the ID card whether the age on the profile is correct or not and no it is not easy for the escort to get a fake card. As to whether the pic is old or has been photo shopped, this is more difficult to monitor.

2. Will she provide all the services she advertised plus any you specifically asked for in the booking? This needs to be confirmed before the session starts.

3. The quality of the service itself we all know depends on too many variables to go into here. This is where the reviews are so important and notwithstanding possible manipulation of the ratings system it is I believe a good guide.

I have used then twice. On both occasions the lady was definitely a lot older than her profiled age. One I immediately gave 200 Baht taxi money to and said goodbye, the other because of her personality and great body I continued with and had a sweet time.

So I suggest let's work with Smooci to help them get it right.

I've sampled Smooci on 2 occasions. Although I had previously never thought I'd be using an escort agency in BKK. Both experience were good. The girls showing up was clearly the girls on the picture. Both were very accommodating, nice, good english and good sex. The first was slightly chubbier than I had expected, but not due to any photoshopping (I double-checked afterwards, and I probably just wasnt paying enough attention originally). Anyhow, both had very good reviews, and delivered accordingly. In particular the second I picked also partly based on some very good reviews, and she did not disappoint. To the contrary.

But on the other hand, I do find the selection somewhat limited. You can go 5 minutes any direction on Sukhumvit and choose among thousand of girls. There is that.

So probably Smoooci's best thing could be in the consistency of service. Pickups can be hit and miss, dick scare, starfish, clock watching and all other kinds bad experiences.
Oh yeah - and the APP is impressive, like uber for mongers. It really works well.

[WarmStone25]

or were you already engaged in expressing your personal opinion at that point ?

The words that I used were " In my opinion to engage in this does not make sense". This is my personal opinion.

[EihTooms]

Smooci is very simple app to use and a welcome new platform for booking escorts. It's not perfect but as somebody said it's a work in progress. I believe they want to get it right and welcome suggestions from the forum. Their policy of not allowing escorts to include unprotected sex on their profiles is both their right to do so and in my opinion a responsible position to take.

The success of a session with an escort starts with.

1. Is what you see when you open the door what you were expecting. Here I have some issues with Smooci in that I believe they should confirm from the ID card whether the age on the profile is correct or not and no it is not easy for the escort to get a fake card. As to whether the pic is old or has been photo shopped, this is more difficult to monitor.

2. Will she provide all the services she advertised plus any you specifically asked for in the booking? This needs to be confirmed before the session starts.

3. The quality of the service itself we all know depends on too many variables to go into here. This is where the reviews are so important and notwithstanding possible manipulation of the ratings system it is I believe a good guide.

I have used then twice. On both occasions the lady was definitely a lot older than her profiled age. One I immediately gave 200 Baht taxi money to and said goodbye, the other because of her personality and great body I continued with and had a sweet time.

So I suggest let's work with Smooci to help them get it right.

Good info. May I ask if the two ladies you booked were each sporting a 4.0 or higher Star Ratings when you booked them, particularly the one that was so much older than her photos suggested and profile stated that you sent her on her way with 200 Baht taxi money?

[EihTooms]

-snip- Delivery has always been efficient, direct to the comfort and safety of my own room. There are some safety factors for provider and user. Providers should not be asked to engage in BBFS. In my opinion to engage in this does not make sense. I would not trust the views of any one who behaved like this.

Just for clarification, are you saying that there is a statement somewhere on the Smooci website (There are some safety factors for provider and user.) that "Providers should not be asked to engage in BBFS" or were you already engaged in expressing your personal opinion at that point and no longer relating info about how the Star Ratings are calculated, how the website appears and your level of satisfaction with the service?

[WarmStone25]

I don't see anyone complaining about the questions and issues being brought up here, Bkkdog. Although it does appear you are complaining about potential Smooci customers asking those questions.

I would assume SmoociApp approves of and actually WANTS potential Smooci customers who are not yet already users of their service to ask questions and bring up issues that might be keeping them from becoming so. In fact, I would say that is a major reason this thread with Smooci's name on it even exists; to entice and add new Smooci customers.

You say that "Smooci offers a star rating system that is at least 80% accurate." Where did you come up with that figure? How would you know? And, BTW, "accurate" about what?

The fact that there isn't a more clearly defined and proposed standard on which customers are encouraged to base their rating (when there easily really could be) happens to be one of the main reasons no one can possibly know whether their Star Rating system is "80% accurate", "20% accurate" or even "1% accurate" for the things that matter to a given potential customer. And I would imagine that is a primary reason some potential customers here and elsewhere are reluctant to make a booking through Smooci when they are already steeped in plenty of hot, young P4P experiences via other options for less money than similar girls on Smooci are asking for and after already taking a first hand gander at the girl who is offering it, not just at questionable photos, and quite possibly with a negotiated assurance that if she doesn't deliver as agreed upon then even less money will be paid to her if not zero money.

Much is said about the Smooci Rating system, but this should be used in conjunction with the reveiws submited to Smooci by customers. The reviews should be used to build up an impression of the service likely to be received from the provider. The reviews are based on the users feelings after the service has been provided and not on a calculation according to a formula. Smooci provides the number of reviews for each provider. A minimum numer of these, over a minimum length of time, should be required to help form a reliable impression. The Smooci service has not, in my experience, solved the problems of out of date photos, or stated ages. There are examples of where these can be out by about 10 years. I have not suffered from switch and bait, the girl at the door has always been the girl in the photo. I have had good service on the whole, by choosing girls with a good rating and using the reviews. Booking has always been quick and easy. Delivery has always been efficient, direct to the comfort and safety of my own room. There are some safety factors for provider and user. Providers should not be asked to engage in BBFS. In my opinion to engage in this does not make sense. I would not trust the views of any one who behaved like this.

[Franciscass]

Smooci is very simple app to use and a welcome new platform for booking escorts. It's not perfect but as somebody said it's a work in progress. I believe they want to get it right and welcome suggestions from the forum. Their policy of not allowing escorts to include unprotected sex on their profiles is both their right to do so and in my opinion a responsible position to take.

The success of a session with an escort starts with.

1. Is what you see when you open the door what you were expecting. Here I have some issues with Smooci in that I believe they should confirm from the ID card whether the age on the profile is correct or not and no it is not easy for the escort to get a fake card. As to whether the pic is old or has been photo shopped, this is more difficult to monitor.

2. Will she provide all the services she advertised plus any you specifically asked for in the booking? This needs to be confirmed before the session starts.

3. The quality of the service itself we all know depends on too many variables to go into here. This is where the reviews are so important and notwithstanding possible manipulation of the ratings system it is I believe a good guide.

I have used then twice. On both occasions the lady was definitely a lot older than her profiled age. One I immediately gave 200 Baht taxi money to and said goodbye, the other because of her personality and great body I continued with and had a sweet time.

So I suggest let's work with Smooci to help them get it right.

[Tiandihui]

if she is ok to do BBFS with me. On that last part she said, "with condom ok". I made my case about having a current, normal/negative/non-reactive HIV result blood test document and sent her a photo of it.

(For non printer ones) With any normal report from normal clinic, dip into nail polish remover can produce a brand new fresh piece of report and still can be reuse again and again. Write what ever results you wish on your own.

Its a old school trick to reuse medical certificate to skip school.

[EihTooms]

So you did not book an escort. You booked an independent using a website or chat app. Not the same but great story. I've dkne that myself plenty of times but the one difference is I have to talk where with an agency just book.

The end result of the girl showing up at my door for a pre-arranged price is the same, which is why I put quotation marks around the term "escort", but with the added advantage that a minimal amount of talk/chat confirmed for me before I even booked her that I would be enjoying DATY without eating hairy pussy, that there would be no further conversation about condoms, disease and death for the rest of the night particularly at the point of entry and that I would not be rushed.

The talk/chat necessary to get those things confirmed was so minimal and easy (and useful for allowing us a moment of personal interaction before meeting too), the shopping online required so convenient even when I click Interested first instead of the girl as it was in this case and the available young hotties so abundant I could achieve the same result with a new girl every night and only choose a different route such as hitting the go-go bars in order to add variety to my approach and get off my butt.

So when an online booking service purports to smooth the way by better informing me on the issues that matter to me (it might have been BBBJ+CIM or perhaps BBBJ+CIM+SWALLOW instead of shaved pussy, BBFS and no rush as it was this time. Or something else for another punter) via a Star Rating system as long as I pay more by using their service, I don't see it as complaining, unreasonable or a pursuit of unattainable "perfection" to ask them how they can claim to be doing that and, where appropriate, to offer suggestions re their self-described work-in-progress for how they could better accomplish that if they want my and others' business and money.

The Star System along with their initial guidelines came closest to accomplishing that at first. Tantalizingly close and I had high praise and support for them at that point because that gave at least some objective meaning to the Star Ratings. But then they dropped the ball on associating those guidelines with the Star Ratings by declaring them mere suggestions so it was fine if every rater makes up his own guidelines for what deserves a 5 Star Rating vs a 1 Star Rating. Huh? And the initial seeming standards and basis for the ratings were even further obscured wnen no effort was made to make anyone aware that they did or ever existed at the point if booking and rating afterwards.

So we're left with a Star Rating that might, might not and probably doesn't tell most potential customers anything objectively knowable about the girl's delivery or not of her listed services but we can pay for Premium if we want to read subjective rhapsodizing about the girl's perceived winning attitude, how warm and fuzzy Burt from Podunk felt when he saw her at the door and stuff like that. Meanwhile, if I want to confirm the things I easily confirmed before my booking last night, I need to type/chat about it in their SPECIAL REQUESTS box, talk/chat about it with a third party on the telephone and wait to see if my chosen girl is perfectly comfortable agreeing to things like BBFS or BBBJ+CIM+SWALLOW in front of whoever else is reading that SPECIAL REQUESTS box and on the phone when I call to have a conversation about it with that third party.

Now, I believe Smooci's system CAN provide a more competitive level of service and results to what I can already achieve quite easily without Smooci's help and paying more for it. And up to now I have tried to nudge them closer to getting there by posting in this thread. But if my doing so is just creating an annoyance, no problem, let the unqualified praise for achieving 100% success every time and without exception from those who are already giving them their money due to how it is right now continue uninterrupted.

[Member #4591]

Hmm. No mention that I had nailed a bit of inside rigging of the system that you thought a "foolish" notion and improbable but turns out was exactly what was going on behind the scenes in a service that you claim to know so much more about than me? Um. Ok. I'll let that pass. (nonexistent smiley emoticon).

I am perfectly aware of what it is like to do what you described. In fact, I booked an "escort" last night. LOL. One big difference in the scenario you described above is that I had already cleared the deck for hassle-free BBFS with the lady before I booked her, not leaving it up to chance or finding out if that will be a go or not after she arrives or, worse, at crunch time.

Here is how it went: A 22 year old honey whose photos I had seen and lusted over on ThaiFriendly but whose stated acceptable age range was at least ten years younger than me (so I didn't bother clicking on her profile) clicked Interested in me first anyway. She was upfront about her purpose; "I am looking for customers". I replied with my Line ID and that is where the rest of our chat last evening took place.

Her photos would compare very positively with the better photos on Smooci. In person, she looked about 95% as good as she did in her photos, which would be a very high mark for any of us posting photos on the Internet, imo. She would fit right in with the better looking girls in Thermae and could easily command the 2,500 baht+ rate stated for standard, lick around the edges (if that), slip on a cover and proceed kind of fare usually offered there. Except this was going to be much better than that for me.

Her asking price was 3,000 baht for "sex for money" ST. Not interested in negotiating on price exactly from that starting point but on service instead, I countered with my agreeing to pay that much if her pussy is shaved, if the ST is not rushed and if she is ok to do BBFS with me. On that last part she said, "with condom ok". I made my case about having a current, normal/negative/non-reactive HIV result blood test document and sent her a photo of it. In response to that she said she wanted to think about it. Well, she said "Let me thing". But I knew what she meant. One minute later the answer was affirmative and so we set a time to meet at my room later, 11PM. She arrived in a taxi at exactly and I mean to the minute of 11PM, after Lining me a few times along the way, updating me on where her taxi was at this or that moment.

Everything was exactly as I had negotiated, wanted, asked for and expected, but better. Now, I should also mention that our very brief and easy "negotiation" and assurances about her having a shaved pussy, agreeing to BBFS with me and so on was conducted in complete one-to-one privacy only between her and me. There was no requirement for me to write out those SPECIAL REQUESTS in a box on a website and follow up with a telephone conversation about it with anyone else. Most important on that point, the GIRL knew that there was no third party participation or interpreter involved in whether or not she was going to agree to my SPECIAL REQUESTS in the towering Smooci Booking Dispatch building. And I suspect that went a long way to leading her to a "yes" response to me rather than a "no" response.

So, THAT is Smooci's very real world competition in the "escort" business. My and other posts like mine here are, if nothing else, simply trying to move Smooci's admitted "work in progress" and requested suggestions on how to improve their service when they set up this thread in the first place closer to a competitive edge against the obvious alternatives like the one I enjoyed last night.

It has nothing to do with expecting "perfection". It is simply trying to help THEM get closer to what is already easily available out there where thousands of baht are being exchanged and where, unless they know WE know about that competition and are already partaking of it, THEY are missing out and leaving money on the table. I would love for what I enjoyed last night to be more closely institutionalized and incorporated into the Smooci business model. So I post my questions and concerns that might but only might lead them to doing what is necessary to make that happen. That's all.

So you did not book an escort. You booked an independent using a website or chat app. Not the same but great story. I've dkne that myself plenty of times but the one difference is I have to talk where with an agency just book.

[EihTooms]

Trying to speculate, review, suggest on a company, product, or service you have never used is frankly rediculous.

I submit that is exactly a major reason why this thread with the Smooci name on it exists. It ought to go without saying a high priority mission here, for Smooci, is to smooth the way and field concerns that might be preventing reluctant, unconvinced or, frankly, better aware and informed potential customers who are already choosing and paying money to their competition to choose Smooci's service instead.

This is the 15th post submitted on this thread and SmoociApp's 3rd or 4th post:

Firstly, thanks for all your comments and feedback, we really do take it all on board.

Please note that Smooci is very far from being a completed product, and there are a lot of positive things going on behind the scenes as we speak.

-snip-

Again, please note that Smooci is still very much work in process with a lot of improvements to come, and we are very much open to all feedback. Our goal is to improve the Escort booking experience for both the users and companions, creating higher standards and more healthy competition within the markets, and we wish to work with both in order to achieve this.

[EihTooms]

So, Eitooms, sit back in your condo one night after a hard days work. You don't feel like going out but your horny as hell. Open your smart phone, tablet, or computer, navigate to smooci, shop for your girl, and choose her. Then go take a shower, and lay on your bed. 20 minutes later, a knock on your door will come. Your lady will enter and she will be in your bed within 10 minutes. 2 hours later, kick her out, smoke your cigar and fall asleep. Oh and before you talk about BBFS not being an option, let me just tell you that I have had no more different of an experience dealing with this request with a smooci girl than I have had with this same request from one of the many other formentiomed mongerimg choices here in BKK. If the girl is willing to do it or not is up to the girl and not her employer or method of how she finds clients. It all comes down to service and return as in what the girl will get in return for her service.

Hmm. No mention that I had nailed a bit of inside rigging of the system that you thought a "foolish" notion and improbable but turns out was exactly what was going on behind the scenes in a service that you claim to know so much more about than me? Um. Ok. I'll let that pass. (nonexistent smiley emoticon).

I am perfectly aware of what it is like to do what you described. In fact, I booked an "escort" last night. LOL. One big difference in the scenario you described above is that I had already cleared the deck for hassle-free BBFS with the lady before I booked her, not leaving it up to chance or finding out if that will be a go or not after she arrives or, worse, at crunch time.

Here is how it went: A 22 year old honey whose photos I had seen and lusted over on ThaiFriendly but whose stated acceptable age range was at least ten years younger than me (so I didn't bother clicking on her profile) clicked Interested in me first anyway. She was upfront about her purpose; "I am looking for customers". I replied with my Line ID and that is where the rest of our chat last evening took place.

Her photos would compare very positively with the better photos on Smooci. In person, she looked about 95% as good as she did in her photos, which would be a very high mark for any of us posting photos on the Internet, imo. She would fit right in with the better looking girls in Thermae and could easily command the 2,500 baht+ rate stated for standard, lick around the edges (if that), slip on a cover and proceed kind of fare usually offered there. Except this was going to be much better than that for me.

Her asking price was 3,000 baht for "sex for money" ST. Not interested in negotiating on price exactly from that starting point but on service instead, I countered with my agreeing to pay that much if her pussy is shaved, if the ST is not rushed and if she is ok to do BBFS with me. On that last part she said, "with condom ok". I made my case about having a current, normal/negative/non-reactive HIV result blood test document and sent her a photo of it. In response to that she said she wanted to think about it. Well, she said "Let me thing". But I knew what she meant. One minute later the answer was affirmative and so we set a time to meet at my room later, 11PM. She arrived in a taxi at exactly and I mean to the minute of 11PM, after Lining me a few times along the way, updating me on where her taxi was at this or that moment.

Everything was exactly as I had negotiated, wanted, asked for and expected, but better. Now, I should also mention that our very brief and easy "negotiation" and assurances about her having a shaved pussy, agreeing to BBFS with me and so on was conducted in complete one-to-one privacy only between her and me. There was no requirement for me to write out those SPECIAL REQUESTS in a box on a website and follow up with a telephone conversation about it with anyone else. Most important on that point, the GIRL knew that there was no third party participation or interpreter involved in whether or not she was going to agree to my SPECIAL REQUESTS in the towering Smooci Booking Dispatch building. And I suspect that went a long way to leading her to a "yes" response to me rather than a "no" response.

So, THAT is Smooci's very real world competition in the "escort" business. My and other posts like mine here are, if nothing else, simply trying to move Smooci's admitted "work in progress" and requested suggestions on how to improve their service when they set up this thread in the first place closer to a competitive edge against the obvious alternatives like the one I enjoyed last night.

It has nothing to do with expecting "perfection". It is simply trying to help THEM get closer to what is already easily available out there where thousands of baht are being exchanged and where, unless they know WE know about that competition and are already partaking of it, THEY are missing out and leaving money on the table. I would love for what I enjoyed last night to be more closely institutionalized and incorporated into the Smooci business model. So I post my questions and concerns that might but only might lead them to doing what is necessary to make that happen. That's all.

[KeepFlyin]

I will have to agree with BKKdog's recent post about Smooci. I've been to BKK several times before this current trip and usually reached out to an escort company or made a visit to a soapy. However, I'm not the type of person that wants to find someone at a place like Thermae, Nana, etc. Nor am I interested in a place like Tulip that doesn't have much of a selection. That just leaves it down to a giant soapy or an escort agency. Between the two, I would rather go with an escort agency due to the convenience factor.

For the most part, it seems like all of the escort agencies charge roughly the same amount 5 K-6 K THB for two hours. So, Smooci's pricing of 3 K-5 K with many girls super competitive in terms of price. I just had a date with Kel the other night and she was definitely worth it for the price I paid. With that said, I look forward to Smooci opening up in other markets like SIN as reading stuff about the areas in Geylang seem to confusing for me.