Smooci Advertiser Thread

[LA Guy 5]

Even though a customer who is "forced" or emotionally blackmailed by the girl to give her a high rating in her presence can change his rating over the next few days without her knowing it, the customer who is faced with a truly awful delivery or non delivery of claimed services, lousy attitude or whatever will now be reluctant to simply convey a disapproval of it in real time during the session in order to possibly get things back on track for fear that any negative vibe he exudes or a normally firm request for this or that will be taken as a reason for her to report negatively about his "poor hygiene" or him being a "problem customer".

I'm guessing a lot of guys who book girls for, among other things, that second shot but it requires the girl to work harder and stay longer to achieve it than she felt like providing that night are suddenly going to be subject to getting negative comments about "poor hygiene" or being a "problem customer" in HIS review as a way for her to run ahead of whatever negative review she suspects she will (rightfully) get from him. I would liken it to a terrible session with a scammer girl from a bar where she knows you might report badly on her to the mamasan later that night or tomorrow, so she runs ahead to give the mamasan an earful about how terrible YOU were to HER as soon as she returns to the bar and before you get to tell your side of the story. Only in this case, it isn't just the mamasan that gets an earful of terrible stories about you, but also every other girl in the bar and even girls who are not working there yet but will start working there next week, next month or next year! lol.

I'm a little puzzled about why Smooci thinks they need to give the girls this routine reviewing leverage rather than just asking them to report any abusive and particularly objectionable behavior from the customers in general with an assurance that it will be acted upon and responded to appropriately.

I was thinking the exact same thing as you expressed in your last paragraph. It is hard to know what motivated Smooci to adopt a system where the girls rate their customers. Did they have a lot of agencies or girls who told them they would refuse to be part of their service unless the girls could rate the customers? Somehow I think I know the answer.

It results in a bad incentive structure. An ill-advised move on their part IMHO.

[EihTooms]

I wouldn't trust guys' ratings on the website if the guys know they themselves will be rated, and part of their rating might depend on how they rate the girl.

Even though a customer who is "forced" or emotionally blackmailed by the girl to give her a high rating in her presence can change his rating over the next few days without her knowing it, the customer who is faced with a truly awful delivery or non delivery of claimed services, lousy attitude or whatever will now be reluctant to simply convey a disapproval of it in real time during the session in order to possibly get things back on track for fear that any negative vibe he exudes or a normally firm request for this or that will be taken as a reason for her to report negatively about his "poor hygiene" or him being a "problem customer".

I'm guessing a lot of guys who book girls for, among other things, that second shot but it requires the girl to work harder and stay longer to achieve it than she felt like providing that night are suddenly going to be subject to getting negative comments about "poor hygiene" or being a "problem customer" in HIS review as a way for her to run ahead of whatever negative review she suspects she will (rightfully) get from him. I would liken it to a terrible session with a scammer girl from a bar where she knows you might report badly on her to the mamasan later that night or tomorrow, so she runs ahead to give the mamasan an earful about how terrible YOU were to HER as soon as she returns to the bar and before you get to tell your side of the story. Only in this case, it isn't just the mamasan that gets an earful of terrible stories about you, but also every other girl in the bar and even girls who are not working there yet but will start working there next week, next month or next year! lol.

I'm a little puzzled about why Smooci thinks they need to give the girls this routine reviewing leverage rather than just asking them to report any abusive and particularly objectionable behavior from the customers in general with an assurance that it will be acted upon and responded to appropriately.

[LA Guy 5]

Ok. And all of that is fine if all the girls are honest players in the game. But bear in mind that if you find yourself with a girl who is not really making a conscientious effort to provide services for which you booked her in the first place, presents a notably lousy attitude about it and doesn't take kindly to you not just accepting it with a smile, "thank you, ma'am" and how dare you expect her to squeeze out that second shot in the second hour instead of letting her go early, you just might be in store for a pretty darn negative report and review yourself that all the other Smooci girls will be reading and likely accepting as the gospel truth.

My earlier post concerning the possibility a girl who gets a bad rating may retaliate by giving the guy a bad rating never received an answer from Smooci (I proposed one way, probably among many, this could be prevented). I wouldn't trust guys' ratings on the website if the guys know they themselves will be rated, and part of their rating might depend on how they rate the girl.

[EihTooms]

People usually cooperate for mutual benefit. And the mutual benefit P4P women have is in pointing out bad guys, who don't treat P4P women well. They all want to avoid such guys. And they all have an interest in pointing out such guys to each other.

On smooci.com website, the lady doesn't interact with the guy, until he contacts her and wants to meet her. Which means that she already has the guy at the price she asks for. Competition isn't a concern for her anymore at this point. But she needs to know if the guy has behaved well with other women before. And she can trust the ratings of other women. Because they all have an interest to cooperate with each other and help each other in this.

The lady doesn't even come into contact with the guy in a competitive situation. Because the competition happens, when the guy looks at the pictures of ladies, reads their descriptions of what they are willing to do, and looks at their ratings from other guys. When the guy is contacting the lady, then her competition is finished and done. The guy has already made his choice. That's why ladies can cooperate with each other in pointing out bad guys, without becoming less competitive with each other. Their cooperation happens only after they've finished competing with each other.

And guys have an interest in giving good ratings to ladies who did well with them, because one guy's business isn't enough for a lady to stay in business. She needs to be successful with many guys. Or else it doesn't make sense for her to stay in the business. She might as well go home.

Which means that if you like the lady and you want to see her again some time in the future, then you'd better give her good ratings. Or else she might not be in the business anymore, the next time you look for her.

Ok. And all of that is fine if all the girls are honest players in the game. But bear in mind that if you find yourself with a girl who is not really making a conscientious effort to provide services for which you booked her in the first place, presents a notably lousy attitude about it and doesn't take kindly to you not just accepting it with a smile, "thank you, ma'am" and how dare you expect her to squeeze out that second shot in the second hour instead of letting her go early, you just might be in store for a pretty darn negative report and review yourself that all the other Smooci girls will be reading and likely accepting as the gospel truth.

[Dan7373]

...Then the guy still has this candy store of options available to stroll through and choose another.

But there is no such counterpart for the P4P girls who can't stroll through a candy store and point to the next guy who now is under pressure to pay her before rent is due. The competition between P4P girls to bag a good, clean and generous paying customer before the day or night is over is high. The competition between customers to bag the next available and receptive P4P girl is practically non-existent if you're willing to wait 90 minutes or less....

People usually cooperate for mutual benefit. And the mutual benefit P4P women have is in pointing out bad guys, who don't treat P4P women well. They all want to avoid such guys. And they all have an interest in pointing out such guys to each other.

On smooci.com website, the lady doesn't interact with the guy, until he contacts her and wants to meet her. Which means that she already has the guy at the price she asks for. Competition isn't a concern for her anymore at this point. But she needs to know if the guy has behaved well with other women before. And she can trust the ratings of other women. Because they all have an interest to cooperate with each other and help each other in this.

The lady doesn't even come into contact with the guy in a competitive situation. Because the competition happens, when the guy looks at the pictures of ladies, reads their descriptions of what they are willing to do, and looks at their ratings from other guys. When the guy is contacting the lady, then her competition is finished and done. The guy has already made his choice. That's why ladies can cooperate with each other in pointing out bad guys, without becoming less competitive with each other. Their cooperation happens only after they've finished competing with each other.

And guys have an interest in giving good ratings to ladies who did well with them, because one guy's business isn't enough for a lady to stay in business. She needs to be successful with many guys. Or else it doesn't make sense for her to stay in the business. She might as well go home.

Which means that if you like the lady and you want to see her again some time in the future, then you'd better give her good ratings. Or else she might not be in the business anymore, the next time you look for her.

[Franciscass]

So an escort's post might read like this.

Had 3 customers today 2 falangs and a Japanese. Made 10,000 baht so good business for me. One pum pui old guy falang so have to make sure he not lie on me, he not too much power and take long time to finish, have to give him hand job, but he ok nice guy. He give me 500 Baht tip and then fall asleep. He snoring when I leave room.

Next customer from Japan. He have school uniform he want me to wear with no panties. He tell me to sit at table with book open and write on paper and then he go out of room and come back again. He come behind me and ask me what I do and I laugh because I not really understand what he saying and what he do. Then he say he school teacher and I bad student and he want to teach me lesson. He very serious but I am ok because I know men from Japan sometimes are bit crazy and do like this and really I think he very funny guy and he have good body and good boom boom with but he not tip anything when we finish.

Last customer stay very nice hotel but when I see him I not so happy. He look not so good, not smile not say Hello, and tell me to go to bathroom and have shower. I think maybe I leave but It's my job so cannot be like this just I not like customer. When I come from shower he have no clothes on and I see he have big dick. He say to bend over on bed and he try to put in my ass. I tell him no, it's too big cannot do but he says its ok he will use KY and will give me big tip. I try again and he go in a little bit but I feel pain so I say sorry but cannot do. Then he say he want to kiss me and I say ok but he stick his tongue too much in my mouth I nearly choke. I say ok I go and give you back your money. Then he change and say he so sorry and ask me to stay. He tell me his girlfriend leave him go with somebody else and he very sad and angry. I see he nearly crying and I try to take good care of him and make him happy and he better when I leave him. I think he ok good man but not so happy now.

So soon I meet my friends for dinner and then go home check my phone for line messages Instagram and Facebook watch Korean series and have a good sleep. Tomorrow new day. I wonder what customers I meet tomorrow.

[EihTooms]

I suppose, it's the same reason why a guy would want to give a good rating to the lady he likes, even though this would make her more popular among other guys and make her less available for him.

It's not an exclusive one-on-one relationship. When you have many ladies available, then usually you want to butterfly.
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Right. The last sentence I quoted above is exactly why it is different when a customer gives a girl he liked a high rating. More often than not, most guys might see the same girl a second or third time at the most then they move on. And there is an element of trophy boasting at play; "Yeah, I had her every which way but Sunday and she wanted me to do her Sunday as well."

Then the guy still has this candy store of options available to stroll through and choose another.

But there is no such counterpart for the P4P girls who can't stroll through a candy store and point to the next guy who now is under pressure to pay her before rent is due. The competition between P4P girls to bag a good, clean and generous paying customer before the day or night is over is high. The competition between customers to bag the next available and receptive P4P girl is practically non-existent if you're willing to wait 90 minutes or less.

If a P4P girl could have the same easy, clean, pleasant and generous customer every day of her working life she would probably take that deal in a minute. But for a punter to consider such an arrangement with almost any P4P girl, even his favorite of the week, is practically unthinkable.

The joke on the way out of the brothel is, "Ok, thanks, honey. See you tomorrow! Haha." But it's the girl saying that to a favorite customer, not the other way around.

[Dan7373]

Why would Escort ABC want to convince Escorts DEF, GHI, JKL, etc. that they should happily accept a booking from a particularly easy and generous customer if it is in Escort ABC's interest for him to encounter roadblock after roadblock in booking someone other than Escort ABC again tonight?

I suppose, it's the same reason why a guy would want to give a good rating to the lady he likes, even though this would make her more popular among other guys and make her less available for him.

It's not an exclusive one-on-one relationship. When you have many ladies available, then usually you want to butterfly. Because your sex-interest doesn't just depend on you. It also depends on the lady. One lady might have really nice tits. So, she brings out the tit-man in you. And you fall for her this way. Another lady might have a pretty face, which makes you want to get some oral sex from her. And a third lady might have a nice ass, which brings out the ass-man in you. Every lady is interesting in her own way. Which makes you want to butterfly with your dick on every chick.

And the hot lady, who did well with you, needs to do well with other guys too. Or else, she might not be there, when you come back. It's in your interest to help her out by giving her a good recommendation.

And P4P ladies of course know that virtually every guy likes to butterfly. They get guys from other ladies, and other ladies get their guys. Which makes it in the interest of all the ladies to rate their guys honestly and openly for each other. Their guys are common property, rather than an exclusive relationship. All of the ladies benefit, when they rate their guys openly and honestly. And they all suffer, if they lie and give inaccurate ratings.

When everybody is trading and exchanging with each other, then everybody has an interest to keep the market going for themselves and for everybody else.

[SmoociApp]

We are now inviting freelance escorts (girls and ladyboys) to join Smooci in Bangkok, and offering clients who bring a freelance companions on to the platform a free premium membership.

THe girls simply contact us to get the download link for our app (currently Android only). Using the app they can create their profile, set their services and prices, and upload their pictures. Companions click on and offline when they are available, and bookings come direct to the app. They have 10 minutes to accept or reject each booking / After each*booking companions can rate and review their client.

Smooci is currently free for companions, and they keep 100% of the booking earnings. Girls need to contact us on Line (ID: smoociapp).

For guys who help us sign up companions we are happy to offer a free 1-month premium membership, please tell the girl to let us know your email address for your free membership.

[AstoraDick]

We don't control the number of shots, the companions / agencies set this. Admittedily all the agencies we have worked with so far offer just about identical number of shots, but as we are starting to add independents it should hopefully start to bring more variety in the number of shots and rates.

Couples refers to companions who will service a male / female couple. This means they are offering to give sexual service to both the male and the female (lesbian / bi). In your scenario I would probably suggest booking the escort as a solo booking but picking a girl who has couples as a service. You can then negotiate with her to change the booking to the couples rate if / when you find someone else to join you.

If so then, can you invite agencies that offer unlimited shots to the platform, too? They can still be listed without the discounted rate but at least the availability will be there and might encourage other participants to follow the lead. Noticeably, those independents tend to copy what others provide and yet aren't unanswerable to anybody but themselves.

[EihTooms]

I would say about 90-95% of reviews have been positive and about 70% of those are pretty general with comments like 'good'. 'good client', ' nice guy' and variations of that. The more indepth ones are pretty mixed but I've seen good hygeine being commented on a several times (and have seen bad hygeine commented on a lot in the less positive reviews) and I've also seen a few comments that a client is a 'funny guy', and I'm pretty sure thay mean good humour.

A lot of the negative ones tend to be more specific, detailing a particular issue they had.

I see. Thanks for the info. Maybe there could be a check list for customers at the booking stage for the girls to review before deciding to accept an appointment with them or not. You know, similar to what the customers see on the girls' profiles before they make a decision. Something like:

Personal Qualities/Habits:
FAC (funny and charming)
SDFC (shower daily, fresh clothes)
BTBS (brush teeth before session)
FOTT (fast on the trigger)
SSNN (second shot not necessary)
RGFER (real girlfriend experiences rewarded)
RBCD (recent blood check document)
etc.
I'm sure others could recommend a few more.

Of course, I think current photos (with faces blurred out I suppose) along with data on Age, Height, Weight, Body Type, Erect Penis Length/Circumference would be very helpful as well.

[SmoociApp]

Can you give us some insight on what the girls are considering a "positive experience" vs a "negative experience" with regard to the customers?

I mean, based on what you have read so far, how would I be more likely to earn a 5 Star rating from more girls instead of a 1 Star rating? And, btw, just curious, how often has an unprompted question like that been asked of you from the girls with regard to their ratings and assessment by the customers?

I would say about 90-95% of reviews have been positive and about 70% of those are pretty general with comments like 'good'. 'good client', ' nice guy' and variations of that. The more indepth ones are pretty mixed but I've seen good hygeine being commented on a several times (and have seen bad hygeine commented on a lot in the less positive reviews) and I've also seen a few comments that a client is a 'funny guy', and I'm pretty sure thay mean good humour.

A lot of the negative ones tend to be more specific, detailing a particular issue they had.

[EihTooms]

I don't think you are giving the average escort enough credit. So far we are seeing the companions give generally very positive comments and highlighting the clients that were a positive experience. As with the clients, the companions can buy into a community system and contribute to it working and reap it's benefit, and signs so far are that it will work and help the companions.

We are sure that occassionally a companion will give a falsely bias report, but we are sure the clients do too, and it shouldn't stop the comments and ratings being useful from both sides.

Can you give us some insight on what the girls are considering a "positive experience" vs a "negative experience" with regard to the customers?

I mean, based on what you have read so far, how would I be more likely to earn a 5 Star rating from more girls instead of a 1 Star rating? And, btw, just curious, how often has an unprompted question like that been asked of you from the girls with regard to their ratings and assessment by the customers?

[SmoociApp]

I wonder if number of shots can be revised for 12, 15, and 24 hours bookings and possibly introduce an option for unlimited shots, too, like anal additional fee across the board. I'm aware that longer bookings is meant for those who want a companion to tour the city but there is much more room than only limiting to 4-shot for 15 and 24 hours while touring. I think an increase to 6 and 7 shots for 15 and 24 hours is proper especially that it won't necessary lead to full usage.

Lastly, could you clarify more on couple option offered by some of the companions. It's double the price, understandably, but does the companion choose the one she works best or is that I already have my own and wishes she could come and mingle with us? I really want to try threesome through Smooci and of my own choosing, too.

Thanks.

We don't control the number of shots, the companions / agencies set this. Admittedily all the agencies we have worked with so far offer just about identical number of shots, but as we are starting to add independents it should hopefully start to bring more variety in the number of shots and rates.

Couples refers to companions who will service a male / female couple. This means they are offering to give sexual service to both the male and the female (lesbian / bi). In your scenario I would probably suggest booking the escort as a solo booking but picking a girl who has couples as a service. You can then negotiate with her to change the booking to the couples rate if / when you find someone else to join you.

[SmoociApp]

Why would Escort ABC want to convince Escorts DEF, GHI, JKL, etc. that they should happily accept a booking from a particularly easy and generous customer if it is in Escort ABC's interest for him to encounter roadblock after roadblock in booking someone other than Escort ABC again tonight?

I don't think you are giving the average escort enough credit. So far we are seeing the companions give generally very positive comments and highlighting the clients that were a positive experience. As with the clients, the companions can buy into a community system and contribute to it working and reap it's benefit, and signs so far are that it will work and help the companions.

We are sure that occassionally a companion will give a falsely bias report, but we are sure the clients do too, and it shouldn't stop the comments and ratings being useful from both sides.