Smooci Advertiser Thread

[Franciscass]

Is this the Fo that you are referring to? http://www.newbangkokescort.com/girls/fo/.

If so, the website has her weight at 163 kg and her height at 46 cm. So there are some obvious discrepancies with her situation. Otherwise, her photos look rather nice, too bad they cannot be relied on. Another case of obvious misrepresentation.

Smooci will soon lose any credibility as users find the site to be worthless shills of product that is unreliable. BTW my experience was similar to yours. Photoshop is too easy to use and taking a plain jane and making her look like a Barbie doll is far too common.

To be fair to Smoocii when it comes to pics it's impossible to vouch for accuracy. Photo shopping along with lighting, soft focus lens etc. Are accepted practices in marketing products and I personally have no issue. It is what it is and caveat emptor.

With escorts though unless its super professionally done it's obvious when an image is photo shopped and a little creative reverse engineering can sometimes give a decent idea of what to expect when the door opens.

It's somewhat different when old pics are used and here I would argue that ensuring the correct age is shown makes that easier to spot.

Smooci is a terrific resource are should be recognized as such. I could see it developing into a major platform for all levels of the escort market from a Hi end membership only service to everyday providers but it has to have maximum credibility. Unfortunately judging from a significant number of posts on this forum that is presently lacking. Over to you Smooci.

[Crocodilexp]

As per our terms and conditions and legal requirements we cannot auto fill info on the profiles

Translated into plain English "we allow providers to lie to our customers about their age because we choose to do so (per our own terms and conditions)". There are no legal requirements whatsoever forbidding you from ensuring the displayed age is correct.

If you were a free service, I'd sort-of understand not wanting to touch more profile info than was absolutely necessary, but you're not. You have paid subscriptions, you post reviews and you have photo verification. As others have said, showing a fake age when you know it's wrong (and already have a process in place to verify IDs) is indeed fraud.

Makes me wonder, what other kinds of fraud or misrepresentation would you consider acceptable? Frankly, I'm not sure I'd trust you with you my credit card info and real name. What if you decide at some point that blackmailing customers (directly or by selling data to a 3rd party) is perfectly fine "according to your terms and conditions and legal requirements"?

[Rodwint2]

My most recent was Fo. She's closer to 40's than 20's.

Then Anna. Her pictures are definitely old pictures from when she was young. She's probably early 30's, minimum.

They were both fun, but not what I was looking for for that night, which is the problem.

Is this the Fo that you are referring to? http://www.newbangkokescort.com/girls/fo/.

If so, the website has her weight at 163 kg and her height at 46 cm. So there are some obvious discrepancies with her situation. Otherwise, her photos look rather nice, too bad they cannot be relied on. Another case of obvious misrepresentation.

Smooci will soon lose any credibility as users find the site to be worthless shills of product that is unreliable. BTW my experience was similar to yours. Photoshop is too easy to use and taking a plain jane and making her look like a Barbie doll is far too common.

[SmoociApp]

Will there be any extra charges I should pay for the escort to come into my hotel?

Such as transport charges.

Transport charges will only apply to bookings outside of Bangkok's main city area, such as the airport hotels. Most companions / agencies charge 500 Baht travel fees for the airport hotels.

[Luther1211]

Will there be any extra charges I should pay for the escort to come into my hotel?

Such as transport charges.

[Franciscass]

It is a manual system, we recieve the IDs and manually check that they are genuine and the companion is of legal age. As per our terms and conditions and legal requirements we cannot auto fill info on the profiles, the companions / agencies must remain fully responsible for the information shown. If a companion gets common complaints stating that the info on their profile is incorrect we then step in to warn them and even ban them in extreme cases.

I may be missing something here but really Smoocci come on, using cop outs like we cannot auto fill due to legal restrictions seems somewhat disingenuous. It's your site, you control the terms and conditions of listings. I understand you need as many escorts as possible using it to ensure a viable business proposition but I suggest that the long term success of your app would be best served by developing a sterling reputation for credibility. Accepted escorts using photo shopped or old pics is something you can only control after complaints are made but on age you know. Think about it, agreed you might lose some listings from girls reluctant to use their actual age but over time you will develop a larger consumer base because of greater transparency which in turn will attract more genuine escorts to use Smoocci. Am I missing something?

[Shiba7]

I would have guessed based on Fo's pictures that she was 35. I figured that they photoshopped away any blemishes but she still doesn't look all that young. Then I'd guess that most girls with implants had to work a good amount to afford implants. Overall I'd probably add 4 to 7 years to any girl listed older than 26.

As to the smooci website I'd rather have guaranteed photos than guaranteed age.

In my opinion, the experience between a young WG and one who has been in the business for so long, is completely different.

For me it's more a change in the state of mind than the body. When you book someone you think is in their 20's, is fun, spontaneous, and adventurous, you instead get a hardened woman in her 40's who has seen it all, it's just not the same.

The older woman could have a better body and be better in bed, but that's still not what I was initially looking for when I booked her.

[SmoociApp]

Why not? It's not hard, and would be huge value to the customers. If there's a business case, restrict it to those who pay.

Are you worried that you'd lose providers or that you'd lose customers if they providers could no longer misrepresent their age?

It is a manual system, we recieve the IDs and manually check that they are genuine and the companion is of legal age. As per our terms and conditions and legal requirements we cannot auto fill info on the profiles, the companions / agencies must remain fully responsible for the information shown. If a companion gets common complaints stating that the info on their profile is incorrect we then step in to warn them and even ban them in extreme cases.

[Breadman]

My most recent was Fo. She's closer to 40's than 20's.

Then Anna. Her pictures are definitely old pictures from when she was young. She's probably early 30's, minimum.

They were both fun, but not what I was looking for for that night, which is the problem.

I would have guessed based on Fo's pictures that she was 35. I figured that they photoshopped away any blemishes but she still doesn't look all that young. Then I'd guess that most girls with implants had to work a good amount to afford implants. Overall I'd probably add 4 to 7 years to any girl listed older than 26.

As to the smooci website I'd rather have guaranteed photos than guaranteed age.

[Rodwint2]

Knowing their age from seeing their ID I find it puzzling that you would allow your platform which incidentally is an excellent addition to sourcing providers to show what you know to be misleading profile data. Seems you are somehow arguing it's not your responsibility. If you didn't know fine but you do know and yet you allow it on your site. When booking age is an important consideration for a lot of your customers and constant disappointment might not be in your best long-term business interest. Just a thought.

If Smooci knows the age of the woman and allows incorrect information to be posted on the website, that is plain fraud by anyone's definition. There is no excuse for not putting the correct age of the women on the website.

[Franciscass]

While we do require to see a companion's ID in order to confirm they are over 18 and allow them on to the platform, we don't autofill their age.

Companions / agencies are required to take full responsibility for the accuracy of the info on their profiles.

Knowing their age from seeing their ID I find it puzzling that you would allow your platform which incidentally is an excellent addition to sourcing providers to show what you know to be misleading profile data. Seems you are somehow arguing it's not your responsibility. If you didn't know fine but you do know and yet you allow it on your site. When booking age is an important consideration for a lot of your customers and constant disappointment might not be in your best long-term business interest. Just a thought.

[Crocodilexp]

While we do require to see a companion's ID in order to confirm they are over 18 and allow them on to the platform, we don't autofill their age.

Why not? It's not hard, and would be huge value to the customers. If there's a business case, restrict it to those who pay.

Are you worried that you'd lose providers or that you'd lose customers if they providers could no longer misrepresent their age?

[SmoociApp]

While we do require to see a companion's ID in order to confirm they are over 18 and allow them on to the platform, we don't autofill their age.

Companions / agencies are required to take full responsibility for the accuracy of the info on their profiles. So far we haven't found age to be a huge issue, while some companions are more creative with their info than others the photo voting helps remove photos which are highly inaccurate, and the comments usually talk about the looks and age of the model, pointing out any notable discrepancies.

When a companion gets a number of negative reviews and their rating falls below a certain figure we go through their reviews and send the companion the common complaints as a means to improve, and if necessary, to correct the info on their profile. Their account is then restricted, limiting the number of bookings they can take until their score improve, and if they continue to get negative reviews they are then removed from the platform.

[Shiba7]

Can you give us some examples? What age was the girl listed at and how old was she in reality?

My most recent was Fo. She's closer to 40's than 20's.

Then Anna. Her pictures are definitely old pictures from when she was young. She's probably early 30's, minimum.

They were both fun, but not what I was looking for for that night, which is the problem.

[Hiete]

Lots of new ladies on Smooci these days, but after many big age discrepancies the last couple of times, I'm very hesitant.

The old ladies are nice enough, but I can pick those up for free.

Until there's some actual age verification, I'm afraid I will have to remain very hesitant about using Smooci again.

If the exact age is not feasible to put on there, maybe classify the ladies as 'MILF', 'teen', '20's', '30's' etc.

What's a big discrepancy? From the three 20+ year old escorts I have met the difference was maximum 3 years. One was even younger than what was indicated on her Smooci profile. I think it was Cake who was 23 instead of 26 but as it has been a while I might be wrong.