Smooci Advertiser Thread

[Franciscass]

To add to my previous post and in response to yours and the discussion about ladies who may not offer some services even if its posted on their profile, the reality of the P4P industry is that its still up to the lady.

I agree with a lot of what you say particularly as it refers to nut job customers but sorry no it's not up to her whether she delivers on a service offered on her profile. If she specifies say CIM then the customer is entitled to get CIM. That's part of what he paid for and may even be the chief reason he booked her.

[SmoociApp]

Do you bias the ratings towards the more recent ones over the ones several months old?

I think that would be a good idea to both reflect degradation in service (girls do get lazy over time), as well as reward improvement (rare, but happens). If a girl has 10 ratings it may not matter (and could even arguably be unrepresentative by letting one sessions skew the result), but if she has 100, I sure care more about the recent ones than ones several months ago.

We do currently give bias to the most recent photo scores in order to determine accuracy of photos but we don't do it for ratings.

Premium members are able to see the review comments which also show the scores, so in that respect you can view some of the most recent scores and comments first, in the context of the overall rating. But what you are suggesting is a good idea, and something we will make note of for when we get to review the rating code again. Thanks.

[Crocodilexp]

Around 40% of users currently give ratings after a booking. But it's also worth to bear in mind that some of the girls have been on the platform for over 9 months and had a large amount of bookings, so a single rating may not make an immediate noticable difference, especially if that rating is close to her average, whereas with a new companion will see her rating change very noticably with each new rating.

Do you bias the ratings towards the more recent ones over the ones several months old?

I think that would be a good idea to both reflect degradation in service (girls do get lazy over time), as well as reward improvement (rare, but happens). If a girl has 10 ratings it may not matter (and could even arguably be unrepresentative by letting one sessions skew the result), but if she has 100, I sure care more about the recent ones than ones several months ago.

[Grandaddy Perp]

Exactly.

There is also another point to take in consideration. I've used smooci five times and I've given a rate each times. The next day, the girl's rate was different than her rate prior to my booking with each girls. That means that my rating had a real influence on the girl's global rate.

Now I'm regularly looking at smooci and I see a lot of girls with rates that doesn't change at all, some of these girls are the ones that I've met earlier. I see these girls available many times, disappear for some hours then reappear on smooci. I cannot believe that these girls are never chosen by any customer. So my conclusion is that a lot of customer do not even bother giving a rate after their session. As you said the rating helps to separate the providers in two categories: girls below 4.2 only for adventurous guys and girls over 4.2 that seems to be the best ones but we still have no guarantee that they will perform well or that their pic is accurate or not.

To add to my previous post and in response to yours and the discussion about ladies who may not offer some services even if its posted on their profile, the reality of the P4P industry is that its still up to the lady. They are after all human beings and just like everyone else, they have freedom to do whatever they want with their bodies. And they should have the right to make personal decisions based on any number of reasons, with some being that they just don't feel comfortable with the guy. I haven't delved into the premium membership of the site so I apologize if this exists but is there a profile system for customers where other users can view each others profiles and look at past reviews they've made? Are the ladies allowed to rate customers as well in order to provide them with some sort of protection? Do they have any type of option to refuse customers?

I think the access to user profiles and comment history can really be beneficial because there exists two very divisive groups within the sex monger scene. There are a good number of guys who see sex workers as underprivileged people and see themselves as white knights and any experience they have is amazing regardless of the level of service because they don't want to hurt the woman's business. They will skew the numbers higher than reality.

On the other hand, there are guys who are extremely cynical and see the women as things and can become quite bitter and have a superiority complex. They tend to have unrealistic expectations, can often be abusive, so they could then skew the numbers in a totally different direction and their comments can often be quite damaging, more so than the first group.

Being able to see these histories can help weed out the people who may not be giving accurate reviews.

[Tiandihui]

Actually, I have been a customer of at least three of the "product" I have seen featured on Smooci. Just not through Smooci or any other escort service. LOL.

Exactly what I mean LOL.

[EihTooms]

Unfortunately, I used to think this way way too, before I learned better from my experience.

You don't know the truth, until you hear both sides. And the lady obviously isn't here to tell her side of the story.

I used to put on two condoms to make myself last longer with the lady. And I really pounded the chick with my dick. It was an enjoyable experience for me. And the lady let me do it too. Because I was giving her more money than most guys, and I was staying with her for my whole vacation. But later I found out that she was getting rubber burns and abrasions in her pussy and going to see the doctor once in a while, when she was with me.

The lady won't necessarily tell you the reason why she wants you to stop after a 7-minute ride. But chances are that she probably has a good reason for it.

Just because the lady is kind enough to have sex for money with you, doesn't mean that you can do whatever you want with her and treat her like a thing, rather than the human being she is.

Yes, I used to think the way you do now too until I learned better from my experience.

Of course, since neither of us was the punter who wrote the original report and neither of us is the girl and neither of us was sitting in that room to observe first hand, we don't know the truth or what her reasons were for balking at and refusing to provide "half" the services she listed on her profile and balking at enduring as much as 7 minutes of FS. But my experience in Thailand's P4P environment tells me when I hear that kind of report it was merely a typical scammer encounter and it no longer strikes me as so unusual as to lead me to assume anything else. Such as when a cowboy hears hoof beats outside his barn door he thinks of horses and has very little reason to stretch his imagination into thinking that might be a herd of zebras outside instead.

And there is more to consider here that leads me to my conclusion. A 20 y.o. girl that looks (in her pics at least) as perfectly acceptably attractive as the one in question who is only pulling a 4.1 Star rating is very likely NOT also honestly delivering the goods listed on her profile or her rating would be over 4.5, imo. It can't be that middling a rating just because she has been booked by a string of brutish, inconsiderate customers who expect too much of her.

[Paolo99]

Around 40% of users currently give ratings after a booking. But it's also worth to bear in mind that some of the girls have been on the platform for over 9 months and had a large amount of bookings, so a single rating may not make an immediate noticable difference, especially if that rating is close to her average, whereas with a new companion will see her rating change very noticably with each new rating.

Thanks for your post.

It's true that the girls I've met did not appear on smooci from the beginning. They were there at most 2 or 3 months before I booked them, and at least one of them had very few bookings at the time I met her, so your explanation is pretty accurate in my opinion.

[Paolo99]

The lady won't necessarily tell you the reason why she wants you to stop after a 7-minute ride. But chances are that she probably has a good reason for it.

Just because the lady is kind enough to have sex for money with you, doesn't mean that you can do whatever you want with her and treat her like a thing, rather than the human being she is.

I doubt that many guys would be happy with such an experience. When you can fuck longer than a 7 minutes ride it's very frustrating to deal with a girl that wants you to stop. It might be ok if she was your girlfriend but certainly not if she is willingly taking your money in exchange of that short ride. The girl can open or close her application by herself in order to appear available or not on smooci. If she cannot be fucked she shouldn't be available. When she accepts a booking of 2 hours including two shots, it's a shame that she asks to stop after such a short time. I would certainly avoid any girl with such an attitude no matter what she looks like.

By the way, she is not kind with you when she has sex with you. She does it in exchange of a considerable amount of money. If she was kind she would do it for free for some guys, or would accept that some guys give her less money for any given reason. By reading reviews about her it appears that she had that attitude with many customers, so she is exactly the opposite of a kind girl, I would say that she looks very close to a scammer, at least her customers should know before booking her that she expects every guys to be very quick to finish.

[Dan7373]

.... a Thai girl who has the BALLS to approach and walk into a strange hotel to meet a man she's never laid eyes on for sex without even a mamasan or a drink server around to oversee, manage or protect her is definitely not "inexperienced" in any way, shape or form no matter what her age. And if it is true that such a girl shows up prepared NOT to even provide half the services she knowingly listed on her profile and/or balk at the pathetically simple task of merely laying there with her legs open for 7 minutes ....

Unfortunately, I used to think this way way too, before I learned better from my experience.

You don't know the truth, until you hear both sides. And the lady obviously isn't here to tell her side of the story.

I used to put on two condoms to make myself last longer with the lady. And I really pounded the chick with my dick. It was an enjoyable experience for me. And the lady let me do it too. Because I was giving her more money than most guys, and I was staying with her for my whole vacation. But later I found out that she was getting rubber burns and abrasions in her pussy and going to see the doctor once in a while, when she was with me.

The lady won't necessarily tell you the reason why she wants you to stop after a 7-minute ride. But chances are that she probably has a good reason for it.

Just because the lady is kind enough to have sex for money with you, doesn't mean that you can do whatever you want with her and treat her like a thing, rather than the human being she is.

[SmoociApp]

Exactly.

There is also another point to take in consideration. I've used smooci five times and I've given a rate each times. The next day, the girl's rate was different than her rate prior to my booking with each girls. That means that my rating had a real influence on the girl's global rate.

Now I'm regularly looking at smooci and I see a lot of girls with rates that doesn't change at all, some of these girls are the ones that I've met earlier. I see these girls available many times, disappear for some hours then reappear on smooci. I cannot believe that these girls are never chosen by any customer. So my conclusion is that a lot of customer do not even bother giving a rate after their session. As you said the rating helps to separate the providers in two categories: girls below 4.2 only for adventurous guys and girls over 4.2 that seems to be the best ones but we still have no guarantee that they will perform well or that their pic is accurate or not.

Thanks for your support.

Around 40% of users currently give ratings after a booking. But it's also worth to bear in mind that some of the girls have been on the platform for over 9 months and had a large amount of bookings, so a single rating may not make an immediate noticable difference, especially if that rating is close to her average, whereas with a new companion will see her rating change very noticably with each new rating.

We are very pleased with the way the rating system is now working and the large amount of positive feedback we are getting. It's not a perfect science, and some guys still book girls with very low ratings and have a great time, whilst you could also book a girl with a very high rating and find the chemistry isn't quite there, but we feel the rating and comments are still very useful to most users.

[EihTooms]

Not yet a consumer of a said product but comment on the product. LOLx.

Actually, I have been a customer of at least three of the "product" I have seen featured on Smooci. Maybe more than that if I scan through their line up today and see another familiar face and body. Just not through Smooci or any other escort service. LOL. I got them when they were younger, slimmer and much cheaper than any discounted amount I have seen quoted on an online Escort-related service. One of the consistently top rated girls is someone I used to take from a portable bar set up on Sukhumvit back when they had more of them and it was all of 500 baht barfine and 1,000 baht to her for ST.

But as far as the Smooci service goes, what would one have to know from personal experience that contradicts what everyone can see is the way they handle and present their rating system that would lead you or anyone else to believe my observations of it aren't valid? In fact, my observation that one would be best to stick with girls rated 4.5 or greater if actual delivery of the services listed on their profiles really matters to you precisely matches that of the owner of Smooci. And I posted that observation weeks before he did. It is just one of those things anyone can easily figure out based on how the site is set up even if you have not actually typed in a booking and given someone your hotel room number.

The "experience" at issue is what one sees and reads on their website, whether or not it can tell you much regarding delivery of services listed, not anything whatsoever to do with what happens when you go through the booking process. I already know the various things likely to happen when a P4P girl shows up at your hotel room and the door shuts behind you. I don't believe my actually booking a girl through them is going to reveal something startlingly different I hadn't considered.

So, tell us, other than discovering exactly how long it takes for the girl to arrive to your room after you've made the online booking, how much back and forth communication between Smooci, your hotel and you is required to get it done, whether she was punctual or not, whether she expected more money than posted or not, what is it about Smooci's service and / or rating system has been misunderstood by those of us who have not actually booked through them? And where on their website might we get the clarification of that you believe you are privy to having booked through them while the rest of us are not?

[AngeloDeath]

Guys,

I need some help. Most of the girls on Smooci seem to be bad or reluctant at DFK from my experience. I am a premium member and most reviews don't really tell you if the girl is good or bad at DFK. Can anyone with prior experience with smooci girls point me in the direction of some girls who are good at DFK??

[Paolo99]

Well said.

I think that there is some sort of misconceived notion of what smooci is.

All the app is doing is providing customers with a more convenient way to order up escorts and to potentially separate the best from the rest of a fairly limited pool but mostly in regards to accuracy of pics. It doesn't guarantee anything related to the services and looks of the ladies nor does it change the realities of the industry. The ratings are all provided by the users and as we know all too well YMMV.

Exactly.

There is also another point to take in consideration. I've used smooci five times and I've given a rate each times. The next day, the girl's rate was different than her rate prior to my booking with each girls. That means that my rating had a real influence on the girl's global rate.

Now I'm regularly looking at smooci and I see a lot of girls with rates that doesn't change at all, some of these girls are the ones that I've met earlier. I see these girls available many times, disappear for some hours then reappear on smooci. I cannot believe that these girls are never chosen by any customer. So my conclusion is that a lot of customer do not even bother giving a rate after their session. As you said the rating helps to separate the providers in two categories: girls below 4.2 only for adventurous guys and girls over 4.2 that seems to be the best ones but we still have no guarantee that they will perform well or that their pic is accurate or not.

[Grandaddy Perp]

With all due respect, I completely disagree. First of all, a 4.1 Star rating on Smooci probably isn't good at all with regard to the issue of the girl delivering the services listed on her profile and likely doesn't reflect anything positive about what she is "giving" customers. Even the owner of Smooci has said he would stick to girls with 4.5 Star ratings or greater to better ensure accuracy on the services listed on their profiles. Considering the way Smooci handles their Star ratings, that girl could easily float to a small fraction on either side of a 4 Star rating on the strength of her youngish age alone, having virtually nothing to do with whether or not she has ever delivered half of the services she lists on her profile to any customer. Where the poster made his mistake, assuming the girl's actual delivery of the services she listed on her profile were important to him and it sure sounds like it is, was in choosing a girl with less than a 4. 5 Star rating, imo.

But, again, considering the way Smooci handles its Star rating system on its own site, it would be easy for a customer to make that mistake and assume a 4.1 Star rating is a good rating as far as delivery of services is concerned rather than her getting that rating simply because the girl is young, cute, punctual, presents a good first impression, has a wonderful personal story to tell about cheating drunk Thai boyfriends, how much she prefers farangs, must take care of her sick grandmother and a whole host of other issues having nothing whatsoever to do with her actually delivering the services listed on her profile. One would only know about Smooci's own recommendation on that issue if he reads these message boards thoroughly..

Well said.

I think that there is some sort of misconceived notion of what smooci is.

All the app is doing is providing customers with a more convenient way to order up escorts and to potentially separate the best from the rest of a fairly limited pool but mostly in regards to accuracy of pics. It doesn't guarantee anything related to the services and looks of the ladies nor does it change the realities of the industry. The ratings are all provided by the users and as we know all too well YMMV.

[Tiandihui]

With all due respect, I completely disagree. First of all, a 4.1 Star rating on Smooci probably isn't good at all with regard to the issue of the girl delivering the services listed on her profile and likely doesn't reflect anything positive about what she is "giving" customers. Even the owner of Smooci has said he would stick to girls with 4.5 Star ratings or greater to better ensure accuracy on the services listed on their profiles. Considering the way Smooci handles their Star ratings, that girl could easily float to a small fraction on either side of a 4 Star rating on the strength of her youngish age alone, having virtually nothing to do with whether or not she has ever delivered half of the services she lists on her profile to any customer ever. Where the poster made his mistake, assuming the girl's actual delivery of the services she listed on her profile were important to him and it sure sounds like it is, was in choosing a girl with less than a 4. 5 Star rating, imo.

But, again, considering the way Smooci handles its Star rating on its own site, it would be easy for a customer to make that mistake and assume a 4.1 Star rating is a good rating as far as delivery of services is concerned rather than her getting that rating simply because the girl is young, cute, punctual, presents a good first impression, has a wonderful personal story to tell about cheating drunk Thai boyfriends, how much she prefers farangs, must take care of her sick grandmother and a whole host of other issues having nothing whatsoever to do with her actually delivering the services listed on her profile..

Not yet a consumer of a said product but comment on the product. LOLx.