Smooci Advertiser Thread

[Syzygies]

As it turns out Mr. S, you are correct. There was was lengthly explanation of the service on thread post number 84 about 9 pages back. While I can't compare with 10,000 posts, I don't consider myself a FNG either. I admit that I only reviewed the thread about 7 pages back and now feel I am well versed in photoshopped girls pictures and use of the rating system. I did try to make it known that I had not used the service before and that I planned to change that one issue before the week is out. I do appreciate your taking the time to educate me on the fine points of Smoochi's service, and will endeavour to be more diligent in my future searches before asking for assistance.

Sky.

Well I wasn't admonishing you as such, merely pointing out a look back could find expansive questioning on this topic (just a fact). I did not make any comments about yourself doing anything bad. I am normally am too verbose so explained why I kept it shorter, due to not wanting to be repeating past stuff. So don't be sensitive. Sometimes there is mud slinging, sometimes it isn't really.

I do understand very well since I was recently a total newbie on the Cambodia thread and knew nothing at all. I don't like to dump shit on new comers like some others do, unless they really show they deserve it. If someone was to keep persisting with the same dumb questions over and over, that would be a more valid cause.

Note I gave you a short answer, which indicates I was okay for you to ask. Searching for old info isn't always easy. The technique I find easiest to use is, is to use "Thread Tools", "Display Thread as a Printable Version", select to display past posts using 1000 posts per page, then Find for words or phrases in each massive page. The Thread Search function is rather more difficult to work well, especially searching for very short words, and problems when search word is not surrounded by blanks.

[Dan7373]

.... our concept is simply set up to create more openness and give the users a more informed choice, fairer pricing, and more control over their experience. The system is set out to reward the agencies and companions who offer genuine and high levels of service, and expose the agencies and companions who hide behind glossy ads and sites without delivering.

I have to say, this smooci.com website is already having a good effect on the escort market for both guys and ladies.

I've checked out the profiles of all the ladies there on two different days. And I was pleasantly surprised to see that on the first day, 53 out of 55 ladies offered 2 shots for their guys. On the second day, it was 55 out of 58 ladies. One hot lady there actually changed her profile from 1 shot on one day to 2 shots the next day.

The ladies at this website are probably checking out each others' profiles and making sure that their offer to guys is at least as good as that of other ladies.

At most other places, ladies offer you only 1 shot. And this makes your encounter with the hot lady and iffy kind of experience. You pick a lady, who is too hot for you. And then you can't last with her. She is happy you took only 5 minutes. But you are disappointed.

It's like the hot lady gets the better end of the deal. She wins and you lose. And this kind of thing destroys the market. Because guys don't trust hot ladies and are reluctant to deal with them.

And that's what this 2-shot thing at smooci.com is about. It's like the hot lady says to you that her being too hot is no problem. You can cum prematurely with her. And she will work with you to get you to last with her for a long time anyway.

I think this website has the potential to expand the escort market. Because with 2-shot ladies, guys don't need to worry about possibly getting the short end of the deal. You have more trust. And this usually leads to more trade and exchange.

[Sky Ryder]

I think this question has been covered to death before, so I will keep it brief. If you want a specific girl, you best go to the Escort Agency direct, assuming no "bait and switch", or you select a timeslot in Smooci, and get lucky that she happens to be available. Smooci is not designed for your requirements, it is designed to cover girls available in a specific timeslot in the next 4 hours. I have no affiliation with Smooci.

As it turns out Mr. S, you are correct. There was was lengthly explanation of the service on thread post number 84 about 9 pages back. While I can't compare with 10,000 posts, I don't consider myself a FNG either. I admit that I only reviewed the thread about 7 pages back and now feel I am well versed in photoshopped girls pictures and use of the rating system. I did try to make it known that I had not used the service before and that I planned to change that one issue before the week is out. I do appreciate your taking the time to educate me on the fine points of Smoochi's service, and will endeavour to be more diligent in my future searches before asking for assistance.

Sky.

[Syzygies]

I am asking because I am not 100% sure of all the procedures with Smooci, so pardon my inexperience with your service. I plan to change that status to experienced by the end of the week! Are you allowed to "request" a specific lady, or just hope that she shows up on your website. Is there any way to be alerted is a lady you are interested in seeing comes available on your site? I am not sure how much interaction, if any you have with the actual escorts, but any idea how "flexible" they may be with advertised services? I suspect that is a very individual situation based upon the girl and her feelings at the time /.

TIA for your answer.

Sky.

I think this question has been covered to death before, so I will keep it brief. If you want a specific girl, you best go to the Escort Agency direct, assuming no "bait and switch", or you select a timeslot in Smooci, and get lucky that she happens to be available. Smooci is not designed for your requirements, it is designed to cover girls available in a specific timeslot in the next 4 hours. I have no affiliation with Smooci.

[SmoociApp]

Photo verification was introduced on April 3rd and yet when I browse the contents of the females available I do not see any verified photos. Over this period of time I would expect to see some photos verified. In what way will verified photos be indicated?

The photo verification is in place. Photo verification scores are used once a photo receives it's 5th yes / no vote.

Verification stamps will be shown to premium members, and we are looking to launch premium memberships in around 15/20 days. These accounts will also include the ability to read all comments and book up to 24 hours in advance.

We are already removing photos which receive a high number of no votes after the 5th vote (these photos are removed for all members).

[SmoociApp]

I am asking because I am not 100% sure of all the procedures with Smooci, so pardon my inexperience with your service. I plan to change that status to experienced by the end of the week! Are you allowed to "request" a specific lady, or just hope that she shows up on your website. Is there any way to be alerted is a lady you are interested in seeing comes available on your site? I am not sure how much interaction, if any you have with the actual escorts, but any idea how "flexible" they may be with advertised services? I suspect that is a very individual situation based upon the girl and her feelings at the time /.

TIA for your answer.

Sky.

Hi Sky,

When you make a booking you book and exact companion, and that companion is the one who must turn up. It's not acceptable for an alternative companion and we would potentially ban a companion / agency if they didn't send the correct companion.

There is no way to set notifications of when certain companions come online, although if the companion works for an agency you would be able to contact them and ask for that companions schedule.

When you place a booking it's for the agreed services at the agreed price, and both the client and companion / agency have to agree to that for the booking to be confirmed. It is possible to send a note / request with your booking if you require anything specific, and once a booking is confirmed you will have direct contact with the agency or companion.

[WarmStone25]

Photo verification was introduced on April 3rd and yet when I browse the contents of the females available I do not see any verified photos. Over this period of time I would expect to see some photos verified. In what way will verified photos be indicated?

[Sky Ryder]

I am asking because I am not 100% sure of all the procedures with Smooci, so pardon my inexperience with your service. I plan to change that status to experienced by the end of the week! Are you allowed to "request" a specific lady, or just hope that she shows up on your website. Is there any way to be alerted is a lady you are interested in seeing comes available on your site? I am not sure how much interaction, if any you have with the actual escorts, but any idea how "flexible" they may be with advertised services? I suspect that is a very individual situation based upon the girl and her feelings at the time /.

TIA for your answer.

Sky.

[SmoociApp]

I think just have the ladies send it in by photo or scanned PDF to your office directly would be the best way. Another would be to see their original by having them visit your office in person to get verified before being accepted onto the platform. I understand this may be a challenge if your office is not in Thailand. If that's the case then this will be a challenge.

Looking at the bigger picture I don't think this will be an option. We haven't fully launched yet, as in Bangkok was originally just our testing ground and we only took on a few agencies to develop the system before full launch and expansion. We are getting very close to being able to allow freelancers on to our system and moving into a few other countries, so manually verifying photos isn't a long term solution.

We feel the system we have no put in place is more reliable and solves the photoshopping issue:

After every completed booking the client gets a review link where they add a rating, give a comment on the booking, and rate each photo of the companion they just met, with a simple yes or no as to whether it was accurate.

After receiving 5 yes / no scores a photo will then be judged.

- A very high number of yes votes will give the photo a verified stamp.

- A very high number of no votes will get the photo removed from the profile.

- If they don't have a decisive score then the photo will remain visible but without a stamp, until they have enough yes or no votes to make it decisive.

So ultimately the clients / users decide whether a photo is accurate based on actual meet up.

We have also created an algorithm to give a lot more weight to more recent scores, and less weight as a score gets older, in order to keep judgement relevant and up to date.

[Member #4591]

I think age will be a separate issue, although photo accuracy will go someway to confirming that.

One of the things holding up the companion's app, which will allow independents onto our platform, is implementing an ID verification system, this will verify that a companion is of legal age and of the gender they claim to be.

I think just have the ladies send it in by photo or scanned PDF to your office directly would be the best way. Another would be to see their original by having them visit your office in person to get verified before being accepted onto the platform. I understand this may be a challenge if your office is not in Thailand. If that's the case then this will be a challenge.

[SmoociApp]

Can I suggest we are missing a clear verification opportunity here. From many reports the issue of photos is not often one of a completely different person but photoshopping or more accurately AGE. I have had the pleasure of a few escorts in Bangkok and my finding time and again is not that the pictures are false or even photoshopped but that they were taken 10 or even more years ago.

So my point is that these ladies who still have wildly outdated photos would've easily picked up if the agency or smooci verifies the escorts age. Surely not that hard to do? There are too many still showing and pretending to be 24 when comments and ratings would indicate closer to 40. And if age is accurately given we can all assess how recent or well preserved a photo looks and decide accordingly.

I think age will be a separate issue, although photo accuracy will go someway to confirming that.

One of the things holding up the companion's app, which will allow independents onto our platform, is implementing an ID verification system, this will verify that a companion is of legal age and of the gender they claim to be.

[Statton69]

I think you are twisting our words or have misread / misunderstood. We are most definitely challenging ALL agencies which come onto our platform, which is clear with the ratings, photo verification, and even the GPS tracking. No one is given any special treatment and all scores, comments, and photo ratings are left unedited. Each and every agency on our platform is made to take responsibility for their performance and service, as well as their advertisements / profile. And by doing that it is rewarding the good agencies and helping us to weed out the bad ones. In that way we very much agree with you, and our concept is to highlight the agencies and companions which offer the best.

We are already completing over 150 bookings per day and are genuinely getting so much positive feedback, especially from users who contact us after their bookings. We are listening to all the suggestions and are trying to act on all common feedback. In fact the photo verification system was a result of conversations on here and two other forums, so we are very grateful for all the interest here.

We will also have a big update coming up in the next 2-3 weeks, which are very excited about. Thanks again for all the support and feedback.

Can I suggest we are missing a clear verification opportunity here. From many reports the issue of photos is not often one of a completely different person but photoshopping or more accurately AGE. I have had the pleasure of a few escorts in Bangkok and my finding time and again is not that the pictures are false or even photoshopped but that they were taken 10 or even more years ago.

So my point is that these ladies who still have wildly outdated photos would've easily picked up if the agency or smooci verifies the escorts age. Surely not that hard to do? There are too many still showing and pretending to be 24 when comments and ratings would indicate closer to 40. And if age is accurately given we can all assess how recent or well preserved a photo looks and decide accordingly.

[SmoociApp]

It's good to stay positive especially since it's your business but it is pretty obvious the feedback here has been mostly critical.

I just hope you and your team are taking notes and honestly trying to address these concerns. I, for one, would like to try it but it just isn't where it needs to be yet for me to join. As you correctly stated, you are not challenging good agencies at all, that much is very clear. But that should be your goal, shouldn't it? Go big or go home. Just that admittance itself lessens my interest in your venture although the honesty is appreciated.

Like I mentioned Dr. Covey earlier it goes back to achieving a win-win situation. I'm a big proponent of the agencies that do a wonderful job and pay them well for this. If I am to invest my time and capital in your business then I want to invest in the best or those who seek to be the best as I do in my endeavors. Anyway, that's my two cents for whatever it's worth. I'll be interested to see how things work out after a couple of months.

I think you are twisting our words or have misread / misunderstood. We are most definitely challenging ALL agencies which come onto our platform, which is clear with the ratings, photo verification, and even the GPS tracking. No one is given any special treatment and all scores, comments, and photo ratings are left unedited. Each and every agency on our platform is made to take responsibility for their performance and service, as well as their advertisements / profile. And by doing that it is rewarding the good agencies and helping us to weed out the bad ones. In that way we very much agree with you, and our concept is to highlight the agencies and companions which offer the best.

We are already completing over 150 bookings per day and are genuinely getting so much positive feedback, especially from users who contact us after their bookings. We are listening to all the suggestions and are trying to act on all common feedback. In fact the photo verification system was a result of conversations on here and two other forums, so we are very grateful for all the interest here.

We will also have a big update coming up in the next 2-3 weeks, which are very excited about. Thanks again for all the support and feedback.

[Johann2]

Please don't confuse the discussions here as to indicating that there are problems with the rating system and other aspects of our platform. The purpose of this thread was to work with the community here in order to improve the system and shape it to the needs of the clients, so we very much encourage the criticism and suggestions on how to improve. The feedback we are getting is extremely positive and the system is working better than expected.

This thread has a lot of members complaining about the Smooci rating system but most of the complainers haven't used the service.

It's good to stay positive especially since it's your business but it is pretty obvious the feedback here has been mostly critical.

I just hope you and your team are taking notes and honestly trying to address these concerns. I, for one, would like to try it but it just isn't where it needs to be yet for me to join. As you correctly stated, you are not challenging good agencies at all, that much is very clear. But that should be your goal, shouldn't it? Go big or go home. Just that admittance itself lessens my interest in your venture although the honesty is appreciated.

Like I mentioned Dr. Covey earlier it goes back to achieving a win-win situation. I'm a big proponent of the agencies that do a wonderful job and pay them well for this. If I am to invest my time and capital in your business then I want to invest in the best or those who seek to be the best as I do in my endeavors. Anyway, that's my two cents for whatever it's worth. I'll be interested to see how things work out after a couple of months.

[SmoociApp]

I'm not in the wrong area as far as I know. I was responding to your question.

My original point was in response to another poster regarding his overall opinion on Smooci and again the point is that escort agencies almost always are the better way to go. As others have mentioned, the feedback Star system is one of many issues with Smooci's approach. And I hardly see any posts related to bookings, it more consists of critiques of Smooci itself. Otherwise, everyone is in the wrong thread.

We work with trusted agencies in Bangkok and when booking through Smooci we give you direct contact with the agency. You have the opportunity to send special requests and speak directly to the agency / companion before booking starts. If you have a strong preference to book directly with an agency you can also use our platform to search lots of the best agencies in one place, seeing which companions are available for your booking and reviewing their performance on the site, and then contact the agency directly outside of our system. So ultimately you can take advantage of some of our features without having to complete your booking through our system.

We have been careful with regards to which agencies we've accepted on board, and we've rejected several Bangkok agencies who contacted us but didn't have a good enough reputation. Smooci isn't a rival to Escort agencies (not to the good ones at least), our concept is simply set up to create more openness and give the users a more informed choice, fairer pricing, and more control over their experience. The system is set out to reward the agencies and companions who offer genuine and high levels of service, and expose the agencies and companions who hide behind glossy ads and sites without delivering.

Please don't confuse the discussions here as to indicating that there are problems with the rating system and other aspects of our platform. The purpose of this thread was to work with the community here in order to improve the system and shape it to the needs of the clients, so we very much encourage the criticism and suggestions on how to improve. The feedback we are getting is extremely positive and the system is working better than expected. We have already secured major partnerships in several key regions outside of Thailand, and we are getting close to some exciting new additions and the ability to allow independents on to our platform.