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  1. #542
    Quote Originally Posted by SubCmdr  [View Original Post]

    In fact, I have a list. Some chicas reject my requests straight out and withdraw from negotiations based on what I ask for. I always like when that happens. Because that means I would have never been able to get what I want in the first place. Then there are those that agree to everything up front. I am also suspicious of them. They often say that just to get the appointment and then they don't deliver. The best for me have been the ones that say they do some things but not others. I like that. Honesty. And I will often take a girl that does not do everything that I like if the price is right.
    This paragraph should be a guide to all newbies. The P4 P game is not an exact science. Different techniques for different people seeking the same basic outcome. Follow these practical techniques and adjust as you must.

  2. #541

    Sosua Story: T2 C3 (after breakfast)

    Reaching back a bit. To place this in context of the my overall posts. This was on my second trip to The Sue. Chica Three.

    I met a chica that had a smoking body while posted on the beach. She came over and put my number into her phone. After that she was constantly hitting me up to see her. I finally decided that I would after breakfast one morning. But I was checking out of my hotel and told her she had to be on time.

    She was and the hotel took her cedula and we were headed up to my room.

    Clothes off she did not disappoint. But even though she had agreed to everything on my list she refused to do several things I requested. Oh well, sometimes a chica can get something over on SubCmdr. But that body she had was banging, so I asked for some pictures and I could tell she has done this before. Because she gave me several nasty poses without exposing her face and I really liked that. Finally, I asked her to let me cum in her mouth (leche in boca) and she agreed. She gave me a good suck until I filled her mouth with my leche and then she went in the bathroom to spit and clean up. I gave her 3000 pesos plus 200 transportation.

    deal!

  3. #540

    New Guy Teaching point

    Quote Originally Posted by GrownMan1  [View Original Post]
    We get in the room and I ask her was her Chupa really good? Then she asked me which would I prefer. Do you think you're good enough to make me CIM without sex I asked her? Si.

    I don't believe you. I tell you what- if you can I will give you 2000 pesos (1500 agreed) and you can go home. Claro.

    She did it and It took her about a good two wonderful minutes. This is The missing ingredient I've been missing for the last six to seven rotations. She was gone in 20 minutes. Would have been sooner but she had to wait for the Motoconcho.

    The next morning my TrackStar and two other regulars try to hit me up before I left. Too late. I had promise my new Chupa queen a Repeat if she's on time. She was five minutes early. Gave her 1500 pesos and a pair of $10.00 Nike flip-flops. She thought the Nike flip-flops was her payment and she was cool with that. LOL. I may return to Boca in a couple of weeks now that I've added her to the roster.
    The new guy teaching point I take way from your post Grownman is that you should always ask for what it is you want.

    That is the only way you are going to get it. You might just happen upon something you like. But I leave chance to my non pros. When it is pay 4 play then I don't leave that up to chance and ask for exactly what I want.

    In fact, I have a list. Some chicas reject my requests straight out and withdraw from negotiations based on what I ask for. I always like when that happens. Because that means I would have never been able to get what I want in the first place. Then there are those that agree to everything up front. I am also suspicious of them. They often say that just to get the appointment and then they don't deliver. The best for me have been the ones that say they do some things but not others. I like that. Honesty. And I will often take a girl that does not do everything that I like if the price is right.

  4. #539
    Still can't respond to Grownman, due to moderation.

    Can't even remember what we argued about, LOL.

    But just wanted to add a thumbs up to your last post.

    A roster, harem, or fan club is always good to have, but it does need refreshing with new talent periodically, because they move on, get pregnant, get fat, or whatever so fast down here.

    The fun part is auditioning the new talent, referred to us by the old regulars.

  5. #538

    Missing link

    So I started my routine going out the country every month for at least a week. I haven't been to the Su. I've basically relaxed in Boca Chica sometimes bringing friends and sometimes being solo.

    The block has definitely changed in BC. Seems like yesterday; I remember standing on the block sitting at the only Haitian restaurant in the area. Watching the parade of Dominicans and Haitians walk by. It was one of my favorite past time Hobbies.

    Now there are at least 5 to 7 Haitian businesses on the block. Most of them are bar type businesses. The large parade of chicas has dwindled down from what was about 25 to 30 SW to be 8 to 10. Mostly Haitians of very high mileage and low hanging fruit Dominicans.

    Many of the Haitians have boyfriends. Unlike the Dominican guys who drop the chicas off and leave the area; the Haitian guys like to hang on the block around there chicas.

    Many of the Haitians chicas can be observed soliciting customers and if that does not work; they quickly return to post up in between their boyfriends legs. The boyfriend's are usually posted on the wall may be about 10 or 20 steps away. There's always one or two new ones a week that I politely declined their approaches.

    I rarely have to resort to these Chicas. Sometimes I would rather take an L than a random pick. I like Nu Nu however I haven't been able to change my roster and I haven't seen my Super head in about five or six months. I kind of miss her.

    She got me hooked on her CIM. I have a All-Star team but I miss running the plays with her. When there's nothing else to do I can always call her. 40 to 60 seconds I am blasting her tonsils and she keeps going. Very few are that good and she is the GOAT. Not only that but she likes to put one in the air. When she's nice and high she takes off my shoes and massages my feet While I continue to smoke.

    Anyway after doing my regulars and or repeats basically for the last 6 rotations; I hit a home run on my last day. Thanks to my track star who stood me up my last night. I called up a chica that I had a star next to her name. Thats my sign that she is Repeat worthy.

    I couldn't remember having sex with her within the last year. It was 11:50 pm when I called her and asked her to come through. She was outside my complex in less than 15 minutes.

    She was a ok Haitian really nothing to write home about. Said she was 28 and had four kids. Her oldest being 15.

    Damn I'm thinking in my mind how did I pick her? On a scale of 1 to 10 she's about a 6. Not my best choice but she was last minute and I leave tomorrow morning. Her behavior is saying she and I really got along.

    We get in the room and I ask her was her Chupa really good? Then she asked me which would I prefer. Do you think you're good enough to make me CIM without sex I asked her? Si.

    I don't believe you. I tell you what- if you can I will give you 2000 pesos (1500 agreed) and you can go home. Claro.

    She did it and It took her about a good two wonderful minutes. This is The missing ingredient I've been missing for the last six to seven rotations. She was gone in 20 minutes. Would have been sooner but she had to wait for the Motoconcho.

    The next morning my TrackStar and two other regulars try to hit me up before I left. Too late. I had promise my new Chupa queen a Repeat if she's on time. She was five minutes early. Gave her 1500 pesos and a pair of $10.00 Nike flip-flops. She thought the Nike flip-flops was her payment and she was cool with that. LOL. I may return to Boca in a couple of weeks now that I've added her to the roster.

  6. #537

    The intelligent discussion continues

    I enjoyed reading your responses to my report, Coolie High. They generated some additional thoughts and comments from your fellow man in the arena.

    Quote Originally Posted by CoolieHigh  [View Original Post]
    Great report Subcmdr. Enjoy reading your reports on the SU and seeing how you move. A few things. The whole going rate is in the end bullshit but it helps a newbie and / or first time person that's coming to the SU to gauge prices. Now that the monger has a sense of what these hunnies are tryng to get it's up to him to either negotiate down, pay the quote on quote paying rate (which basically means the fastest way to close the deal with the hunny) or pay even higher if she starts out asking for it.
    Thank you Coolie High. Just passing on knowledge and experiences as others have done for me in the past. And I agree with you about the going rate especially people posting about it without putting their actual numbers behind it when they are negotiating.

    Quote Originally Posted by CoolieHigh  [View Original Post]
    What you just display is classic text book negotiating skils when high intangibles come into play. You know the language, study the culture, have time on your side and have plenty of other options to choose from if she doesn't agreed to your price so its not a big deal for you. Hell I'm surprised after you gave her your intital price that you didn't cut it short and just paid her no nevermind and just totally moved on.
    You are dead on point and make a very astute observation about me and some of the best qualities I posses as a man in the arena. The results others receive may be better or worse depending upon the individual skill set and desires that they bring into the arena. Either way, it is the critic who does not count.

    Why did I continue to negotiate with her? Two reasons:

    1. Because I want to hit that 95 mph fast ball out of the park. And the only way to do that is to get in the batters box and swing away. I'm not up in here talking theory. I'm giving a boots on the ground bird's eye view of what I am doing up in The Sue.

    2. Because I know every chica has a price that will change based on her personal circumstances at the time. I knew that if the chica ever needed 2000 pesos and didn't have a good option to get it from someplace else. She would hit me up. And eventually she did.

    In Santo Domingo, chicas that were standing pat on 5000 DOP were asking to suck my dick in my vehicle for 1000 DOP when the pandemic hit. Circumstances change.

    Quote Originally Posted by CoolieHigh  [View Original Post]
    Now looking at a new guy perspective that's in the SU that doesn't have your intangibles as he only have 5 days before hes back in sex prison USA, he is most likely going to take her initial offer because he doesn't want to do deep negotiating over almost 75 bucks because in his mind he pays more then that in filling up his gas tank every few days in the states, as right now hes harder then chinese math and needs some release from this young hunny dip LOL.
    Walk off home run Coolie High. It is precisely because I have time on my side that the negotiation worked. Eight days to close the deal is not going to work for someone on a 5 day vacation. LOL!

    Quote Originally Posted by CoolieHigh  [View Original Post]
    BTW IMHO theres a huge difference in quality of females that are just outright in the street selling that thing to females that have working gigs and are just trying to make a little extra doe. Theres an old school saying. Its not what you do, its how you do it.
    At one point after I first moved here I would have agreed with you. But after spending time on the island my position now is since prostitution is legal (under certain conditions) in the Dominican Republic, selling social / sexual services on the street is as legitimate of a business as the guys that work the fruit cart that I buy from everyday while I am in The Sue.

    The girls that are selling social / sexual services on the side, can be of higher quality or they may not be. You really don't know this until you have experienced the qualities of their social sexual services. If a waitress or bartender is going home with a new guy every night that is 365 guys a year (minus their day off, vacation time if they get any and their period. But they can still suck a dick and take it in the ass while they are on their period). And that does not include the sex they have for fun. When they are letting some Dominican dude run up in them head naked and flood the zone.

    I have said it once and I'll say it again, in my opinion, the mere fact that a girl has a job does not put her "higher" category with me. If you feel otherwise, no problem. If you like it, I love it!

    Quote Originally Posted by CoolieHigh  [View Original Post]
    Anyway again enjoy reading your reports on the Sue, keep them coming.
    Thank you for your kind words. You know I was very close to calling it quits. But ever since the intelligent discussion in the Boom Boom Room broke out, I have hope. The hope is that not only can I contribute useful information but also learn something too.

  7. #536

    Notes from the arena

    Quote Originally Posted by GrownMan1  [View Original Post]
    IMHO it's basically three types of chicas. Chicas that will not have money for sex period. They are not selling and they will not sell point blank.

    Chicas that will sell services however they won't work the streets to do it. They have normal jobs or another source of income. These type of Chicas are willing to meet a guy in more sociably acceptable introductions. Through friends, family members, the Internet, or neutral areas between the both of them. (Like her job). These type of Chicas are usually selective or can be selective and are usually more discrete with their business.

    Then there are chicas that's out in the open. They don't care who sees them and let it be known their intentions. These type of Chicas are willing to go with anyone who can meet their price. Selling service is their main source of income and that's how they get down 24/7.
    I liked how you described the differences in chicas without placing them in rank order. Why did I like that? Because that is what they are: differences. The different types are not better than one another.

    Take the chica that will not sell it, but will give it away to someone other than her husband or boyfriend. Maybe she gives it away every time she goes out to whomever tickles her fancy? High mileage? Compared to what?

    I am not one to judge or place chicas in rank order based on their behavior. Especially when many are operating within financial circumstances many of us cannot even image nor could endure. The other reason I liked your simple descriptions of differences is because there is no assurance of good sex in any of the categories or better sex because the chica is in one category or the other.

    Quote Originally Posted by GrownMan1  [View Original Post]
    If someone thinks there's no difference between the two Chica's they are delusional. My son and I call it convenience store and Amazon. Sub was at the convenience store when he walked the streets of the Su.

    Even though he was a little impressed with the SW looks. He didn't want to exchange his Amazon ordered Chica (the chica he was waiting on to get off work) in exchange for a convenience store Chica. (A random SW that solicit him on the spot).
    Let me give you an example of why even though there is a difference it might not matter in the bedroom:

    Using the example given by Grownman above, my Amazon ordered Chica arrived. A bartender that I chatted up and we had great chemistry in the bar. But when we got into the bedroom she turned cold. Shit, the commander misread the chemistry on this one. Without going into the most unpleasant details of this session. It turns out that she was in debt and was just fucking me to get the money to pay for that debt. She didn't really want to fuck me. Now she did not say that, she just acted like it the whole time.

    I wound up giving her 2000 DOP (which is my going rate for covered sex) and she was not happy with it. I knew she was not going to give me a problem because she had kids to go home to and a job to show up for the next day. I gave her 500 more to avoid bad karma and get her to roll out. Was it a bad sexual experience? No, I got my nut by her jerking me off and busting all over her breasts. And I can say that I have never had a bad nut my entire life. But I can say that the session did not meet my expectations. And I was surprised by that. But sometimes SubCmdr gets it wrong while he is in the arena.

    Cut to my Tinder Chica / Street Chica. I wrote about both those sessions and they were exceptional for covered sex. And the second time I was with her it was even better than the first time as she was much more in a GFE mode or at least my "amiga con derechas". So, in this particular case the different categories that the two chicas fell into meant absolutely nothing. So, from a probability standpoint, I would say that it can make a difference in the quality of the sex. But from absolute standpoint, no.

    If the convenience store has what you want, why wait for an amazon delivery?

  8. #535
    Quote Originally Posted by GrownMan1  [View Original Post]
    IMHO it's basically three types of chicas. Chicas that will not have money for sex period. They are not selling and they will not sell point blank.

    Chicas that will sell services however they won't work the streets to do it. They have normal jobs or another source of income. These type of Chicas are willing to meet a guy in more sociably acceptable introductions. Through friends, family members, the Internet, or neutral areas between the both of them. (Like her job). These type of Chicas are usually selective or can be selective and are usually more discrete with their business.

    Then there are chicas that's out in the open. They don't care who sees them and let it be known their intentions. These type of Chicas are willing to go with anyone who can meet their price. Selling service is their main source of income and that's how they get down 24/7.

    Going to the Su is like going to a huge car dealership Dedicated to military servicemen. A bunch of dealers trying to sell you their used cars for the highest retail price the Service man is willing to pay. If you are not too concerned about the mileage and just want to drive what seems to be a nice car the Su is the place for you.

    Getting a Chica away from that atmosphere it's like buying a car directly from the person who's selling it. When a chica is not in the business of selling cars (services) but willing to sell their car to you; one tends to get a better deal. It also correlates to a better overall experience. A. k. A. GFE. We all know lower mileage correlates to a better conditioned car..
    Couldn't agree more Grownman.

    If I'd seen this could have saved me time posting in the Sosua forum!

  9. #534

    Glory Days!

    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    What you describe is the Old Sosua, except the same experience was 1000 pesos for the same amount of time. You did not have to go around searching for it or hoping you could find it. It was pretty much guaranteed. And there were much hotter chicks back then. None of that hood rat BS that it is known for today.
    No, what I described was Sosua less than a year ago.

    Very surprised to see a post from you harking about "Glory Days". The past is set. The present is where most of us live. The future are the dreams we have in our heads now. I live in the expanded present. Rather than always looking in my rear view mirror, I stay focused on the present while looking ahead to the future.

    It was five years since I had been to The Sue. And I had a much better overall time during the trip you are commenting than I had during my first one. Everyone is allowed their perspectives and opinions. And I respect yours. I just see things different. Maybe because I live here. Nah, that can't be it because I don't live in The Sue. I don't even visit it much. It must be because I value The Sue as a destination. Not as a mongering destination. As a mongering destination, since I live here, it still does not hold that much water with me. The pussy is expensive. The service is underwhelming. And some of the visitors, well I will just leave that alone. Easy to avoid them by just going where I like to be.

    As for prices, you let me know what you pay for that is the same price as it was 5 years ago or longer. LOL!

    I still have girls here in Santo Domingo / Santo Domingo este that will take 1500 pesos a session. Others get offended when I offer them 1500 pesos. They say it is not that much money. And with the current increases in prices in the Dominican Republic it isn't that much money. I used to be able to feed myself on 1500 pesos a week at the grocery store here in the Dominican Republic. Very difficult to do it for less than 3000 pesos at this point.

    Now, many want to say the best days of The Sue is the past. I disagree. The Sue is living in the present. And all the players in the game there continue to live in the present also. My best days in The Sue are right now. The only reason I don't spend more time there is the distance I live from the place. As far as I am concerned The Sue is off the chain. And for all the reasons I have a detailed in a post that even got Old Kool to put in good word for me. LOL! And those reasons are still in full effect even today.

    The Sue is changing. Some think for the worst. Some think for the better. I am one of those that think The Sue has changed for the better. But the one thing that is for sure. It is going to continue to be there in one shape or form. And even if the controlling legal authorities manage to push prostitution (a legal activity in the entire Dominican Republic under certain conditions) action out of central part of the The Sue. It is just going to move to another place or another form.

    But one of things that I really like about The Sue is the face to face street action. Not that a brother won't take a good referral from a trusted source (Shout out to Mr. T again! But I actually enjoy the experience of face to fact street action. Feeling the chica out, negotiating and then seeing if it pans out well. It all part of The Sue experience.

    I have never been to Colombia. My hope is that will change this year. But after I make the trip, I know one thing I won't be doing. Coming back here to a user blog in the Dominican Republic section talking about how everything is better someplace else. I take each and every place and each and every experience for what it is in the present. And so that everyone knows. I live in the Dominican Republic. So, I am invested here. That colors my views. I can drive to the The Sue. Everything else requires a plane flight. I have my favorite accommodations. I have my favorite restaurants. The entire range is there: from fine dining to the food truck. I have my coffee shops. I have my favorite bars. I have a "Lavandera" where they launder a weeks worth of my clothing, fold neatly and place in a plastic bag for easy transportation. Cost: 500 DOP. Even when I have to get business done, everything I need for my mobile office is there (banks, copy shop, office supplies). Grocery stores, liquor stores. And I can walk everywhere.

    And then there are the girls. Notice how they are the last thing I mentioned. They are just a bonus. But even if there was not one single girl in The Sue. Puerto Plata is right down the street. And with my favorite dating app I can pull from there. And I did. So,

    Like the The Nomadic Capitalist says: "Go where you're treated best". So do not run from something. Run to something. And that is what I do.

    "Think I'm going down to the well tonight. And I'm going to drink till I get my fill. And I hope when I get old I don't sit around thinking about it. But I probably will. Yeah, just sitting back trying to recapture. A little of the glory of, well time slips away. And leaves you with nothing mister but. Boring stories of" - Glory Days, Bruce Springsteen.

    You want a general overview of the modern Sosua, check out this post:

    Quote Originally Posted by Oakie  [View Original Post]
    A couple of things.

    Nobody can realistically expect to live in a frozen time warp. The new breed of mongers have adapted to the reality, and while nostalgia is fine, you have to adapt too, if you want to have a good time in Sosua.
    New people pay attention. When someone posts up truth and useable intelligence, I give him respect.

  10. #533
    Quote Originally Posted by CoolieHigh  [View Original Post]
    To me pussy cost regardless wether you marry a quote on quote regular woman to an outright calle chica so how she moves tells me alot about her. When me and Grownman1 had bought some chicas from Puerto Plata to the SU beach one thing I notice was that they stayed exactly by our side at the table. The deal didn't go as planned with them (a mix up with the ladies so one of them wasnt going to get paid) but she didn't go walking around afterwards trying to catch a gringo as walking in the SU with the other hoes was beneath them. They don't want to get word out that they was in the SU with their tongue all out in fotos and streets, trying to catch a sucker of the day. They carried themselves higher in regard even though in the end they trying to get paid too. And to me them showing that was one of the indicators in factoring "good quality pussy" and the reason why GM messed with them in the first place.

    Anyway again enjoy reading your reports on the Sue, keep them coming.
    IMHO it's basically three types of chicas. Chicas that will not have money for sex period. They are not selling and they will not sell point blank.

    Chicas that will sell services however they won't work the streets to do it. They have normal jobs or another source of income. These type of Chicas are willing to meet a guy in more sociably acceptable introductions. Through friends, family members, the Internet, or neutral areas between the both of them. (Like her job). These type of Chicas are usually selective or can be selective and are usually more discrete with their business.

    Then there are chicas that's out in the open. They don't care who sees them and let it be known their intentions. These type of Chicas are willing to go with anyone who can meet their price. Selling service is their main source of income and that's how they get down 24/7.

    Going to the Su is like going to a huge car dealership Dedicated to military servicemen. A bunch of dealers trying to sell you their used cars for the highest retail price the Service man is willing to pay. If you are not too concerned about the mileage and just want to drive what seems to be a nice car the Su is the place for you.

    Getting a Chica away from that atmosphere it's like buying a car directly from the person who's selling it. When a chica is not in the business of selling cars (services) but willing to sell their car to you; one tends to get a better deal. It also correlates to a better overall experience. A. k. A. GFE. We all know lower mileage correlates to a better conditioned car.

    If someone thinks there's no difference between the two Chica's they are delusional. My son and I call it convenience store and Amazon. Sub was at the convenience store when he walked the streets of the Su.

    Even though he was a little impressed with the SW looks. He didn't want to exchange his Amazon ordered Chica (the chica he was waiting on to get off work) in exchange for a convenience store Chica. (A random SW that solicit him on the spot).

    SW's have their purpose and I don't knock the hustle. However the more I visit here and build up my Amazon orders; the less often I have the time, patients, frustrations, and overpricing of SWs services.

  11. #532

    An indicator to better quality

    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    I would not say that means good quality or that they hold themselves higher. All that says to me is that they are ashamed to be doing it whereas the chicks on the street have gotten over that shame and are no longer scared to admit "publicly" yeah I fuck for money.
    Agreed but you don't think its an atleast "good indicator" of possibly getting better quality pussy because she shown or atleast fronted that she's not out there in the street day and night just smashing every dude that's willing to throw money at her. Its like a women who front like her doo doo don't stink as you never know when she ever took a dump even though she stayed with you for say over a month. We all know what it is, her shit stinks just like mines but its the alure and mystique of a women and her puting up a front, taking a shit at night while you sleep, doing the flush as she goes, with the air freshener on stand by so you can't smell her stinky ass (LOL) that's a good indicator for better quality.

    Not saying its the overall major factor in quality but your odds are better then constantly choosing from everyday all day street chicas that's taking a shit on the side street showing no shame for all the world to smell and see.

  12. #531
    Quote Originally Posted by CoolieHigh  [View Original Post]
    The deal didn't go as planned with them (a mix up with the ladies so one of them wasnt going to get paid) but she didn't go walking around afterwards trying to catch a gringo as walking in the SU with the other hoes was beneath them. They don't want to get word out that they was in the SU with their tongue all out in fotos and streets, trying to catch a sucker of the day. They carried themselves higher in regard even though in the end they trying to get paid too. And to me them showing that was one of the indicators in factoring "good quality pussy"
    I would not say that means good quality or that they hold themselves higher. All that says to me is that they are ashamed to be doing it whereas the chicks on the street have gotten over that shame and are no longer scared to admit "publicly" yeah I fuck for money.

  13. #530

    The Art Of the Pussy Deal. Comments and Thoughts

    Great report Subcmdr. Enjoy reading your reports on the SU and seeing how you move. A few things. The whole going rate is in the end bullshit but it helps a newbie and / or first time person that's coming to the SU to gauge prices. Now that the monger has a sense of what these hunnies are tryng to get it's up to him to either negotiate down, pay the quote on quote paying rate (which basically means the fastest way to close the deal with the hunny) or pay even higher if she starts out asking for it.

    What you just display is classic text book negotiating skils when high intangibles come into play. You know the language, study the culture, have time on your side and have plenty of other options to choose from if she doesn't agreed to your price so its not a big deal for you. Hell I'm surprised after you gave her your intital price that you didn't cut it short and just paid her no nevermind and just totally moved on. Now looking at a new guy perspective that's in the SU that doesn't have your intangibles as he only have 5 days before hes back in sex prison USA, he is most likely going to take her initial offer because he doesn't want to do deep negotiating over almost 75 bucks because in his mind he pays more then that in filling up his gas tank every few days in the states, as right now hes harder then chinese math and needs some release from this young hunny dip LOL.

    BTW IMHO theres a huge difference in quality of females that are just outright in the street selling that thing to females that have working gigs and are just trying to make a little extra doe. Theres an old school saying. Its not what you do, its how you do it.

    To me pussy cost regardless wether you marry a quote on quote regular woman to an outright calle chica so how she moves tells me alot about her. When me and Grownman1 had bought some chicas from Puerto Plata to the SU beach one thing I notice was that they stayed exactly by our side at the table. The deal didn't go as planned with them (a mix up with the ladies so one of them wasnt going to get paid) but she didn't go walking around afterwards trying to catch a gringo as walking in the SU with the other hoes was beneath them. They don't want to get word out that they was in the SU with their tongue all out in fotos and streets, trying to catch a sucker of the day. They carried themselves higher in regard even though in the end they trying to get paid too. And to me them showing that was one of the indicators in factoring "good quality pussy" and the reason why GM messed with them in the first place.

    Anyway again enjoy reading your reports on the Sue, keep them coming.

  14. #529

    The going rate is a bell curve

    Quote Originally Posted by GrownMan1  [View Original Post]
    Damn so if they paid $150ST; They can just say they paid the going rate?
    I had a chica just left and I paid her the going rate.
    Going rate is subjective if we just get one person opinion. The going is an aggregated number based on many factors. Customers preference, girls looks etc. Just like there isn't a going rate for all houses. We know the median prices bases on areas, schools, etc.

    So if we look at girls that go to Bailes (the agreed best location to hunt I sosua for qualify girls) , we can say half of fhe girl at bailes will take 2500 or less ST, 80% would take 3000ST or less, 95% will take 3500ST or less. This leave us with only 5% who want more than $3500 pesos. Though that 5% will have some very attrative girls, the remaining 95% still have a good line up. I think its still a good line up if someone can get 19 girls out of 20 at Bailes.

    If one guy just says he paid 3500 frankly nobody here will know if that girl true negotiated bottom price is 1500,200 or 2500. However, with more information on prices we can make an educated a guess on the going rate.

    In a nutshell the going rate in sosua is the price that 95% of girls will take a the top venue. Right now Bailes. My answer is 3500 peso ST.

  15. #528

    Why I like The Sue (The Remix)

    Sunday in The Sue again. Sleep in. Wake up for a leisurely brunch at Schnitzel Paradise, eggs, bacon, roasted potatoes, fruit and toast. Met a a Century 21 real estate agent from Norway that has been living in The Sue for 23 years. We had discussion about the United States of America. And it was interesting to get his view of the country. He was dead on point with all of his evaluations. Right down to understanding completely my personal disenchantment with the place. He gave me his card and I put it into my whatsapp. Never hurts to have another good business contact. Maybe I will join The Sue community. I have certainly been impressed during my relatively long term stay.

    A chica I and another brother have nicknamed "Coca Cola" came up to me and offered me everything I like for 1500 pesos. But I was in the middle of my breakfast and you better be having a life threatening emergency if you want me to disturb my breakfast for you. I took her number and sent her off. But not before she asked me to buy her a coca cola. LOL!

    I had some errands to run. Walked everywhere to accomplish what I needed. Wanted a manicure. Seora offered manicure for 500 pesos. I explained to her that I lived in Santo Domingo and I have a chica that gives me a manicure and pedicure for 600 pesos. Without even asking, she invited me to sit down and said 300 pesos for my manicure was fine. I am a shrewd negotiator or what. I missed my calling LOL!

    Manicure done but unfortunately it was not even worth the 300 pesos. My chica in Santo Domingo este does a much better job. And does not really even want to accept the 50 peso tip I always give her. I head back to my hotel. I'm chilling and hunger hits me fierce. I'm not going to able to wait to have my late supper as normal. So I head over to my favorite restaurant in The Sue: Pirates Bay. Shout out to Mr. T for the initial introduction to this place. For me this is the spot. Dinner is complete. Pay the very reasonable bill in comparison to the quality of the food, service, and the rail side ocean view table that I got. Back to my hotel. Out on my balcony chatting with friends who want to be me right now.

    The Sue has been having a lot of problems with electricity lately. There have been power losses almost everyday for 2 to 4 hours. Power is out again this afternoon. The only thing I don't like about the hotel I stay at is no generator for these situations. But I just shift operations to the balcony. You see I know the the Dominican Republic. I don't lose internet because I have a hotspot. And my good buddy Jeff sent me one of the portable batteries. I keep my internet and phone charged under the worst of conditions.

    Power comes back on. So I shower up and head down the street to Schnitzel Paradise again for my midnight dessert. I get it to go. Tonight The Sue is dead. The talent is weak. Probably one of the worst nights I have seen since I've been here. But that is not a problem for me. I'm working my dating apps. LOL! I three solid deals for what I like a 3000 pesos (after intense negotiations). But then one of my favs hits me up with 2000 peso offer. I lie and tell all the girls that the power has been out and my battery is low and I need to put it on the charger.

    It's about 10 PM and I fall asleep (damn I am getting old). I wake up around 3 AM and check my phone. Lots of angry messages. Sunday night in The Sue and there are not many clients around. One of my favs has send me two angry face emojis. I hit her back and tell her I fell asleep. She says I was lying that she say me in Kings but did not bother me (her lie). I don't even go to that place. Not my style. But anyway I tell here if she wants she can come over. She agrees. 3 AM in the morning and it a great session because she was very friendly tonight.

    Of course she starts asking me for more money during foreplay and as we are getting undressed. If you read my previous account of being with her you know that does not bother me. She wants to move into "amiga con derechos" status. I'm fine with that because I like her. We have a great session. Gets my "leche afuera." And she says "wao, es mucho." Yes, sweetie. I haven been with anybody for three day because I could not get the deal that I wanted.

    She asks for 1000 pesos more. I give her 500 pesos (ok, ok, I'm weak). She is not completely happy with that and gives me some more pouting and begging. But I tell her it is better than nothing. She even me invites me back to the bed for some cuddling. Want to sleep with me for the night. Nah, baby I know that move. Just another opportunity for you ask for more money later in the morning. Finally she realizes that although I bent a little with the 500. I'm not going to break completely and give her another 500. She rolls out without incident. And I am left with very pleasant reminder of why I like The Sue. I cannot wake up in the early morning hours, look at my phone and have a girl at my door in a matter of minutes. I might just need to reconsider where I live. LOL!

    I am SubCmdr and this is another boots on the ground report.

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