Medellin Chit Chat Thread

[MoonShot]

The 25 murders were not necessarily all mongers. But it may be among the more dangerous places if you are in a situation where you can be drugged. The guy that was killed just made a date with a gal on social media, I think Tinder. And took her to his room.

Based on the number of people I have met personally that have been scoped, it is an epidemic of that kind of crime. Not just this year, it has been going on for a while. And most just get robbed, and sleep off the effects of the drug or drugs. But it is easy for the women to overdose a guy too. Hence some deaths, ie murders.

Being drugged is not something I worry about when I visit Thailand or the Philippines or even Mexico. So that adds an element of danger that does not exist in those other countries. Some guys just brush it off and ignore it but it is something you need to be aware of. I have some friends who refuse to come to Columbia for that reason and their belief is that you should not risk your life for pussy. They are perfectly content with those other countries and I do not try to defend safety of Colombia because I cannot. But if you take precautions and are aware of your surroundings, you can avoid being a victim of crime. Along with being drugged, there is also the danger of being robbed on the streets.

So far I have not been a victim of crime but I've been taking precautions as should we all.

[Zeos1]

I've lost track how many visits I've made here and have never been murdered or robbed (YET).

What are these mongers doing? He wasn't even here 100 hrs on his 1st visit and they find him dead next to a dumpster?

https://www.traveloffpath.com/colombia-losing-popularity-with-americans-as-crimes-against-tourists-spiral-out-of-control

25 tourists murdered in just the 1st 10 months of the year? WTF is that a typo?

that would have to make MDE the most dangerous mongering hub on the planet

The 25 murders were not necessarily all mongers. But it may be among the more dangerous places if you are in a situation where you can be drugged. The guy that was killed just made a date with a gal on social media, I think Tinder. And took her to his room.

Based on the number of people I have met personally that have been scoped, it is an epidemic of that kind of crime. Not just this year, it has been going on for a while. And most just get robbed, and sleep off the effects of the drug or drugs. But it is easy for the women to overdose a guy too. Hence some deaths, ie murders.

[SubCmdr]

Ok, so I have completed my second trip to Medellin and although I do not have a lot of experience I can certainly share what I have experience do have in Medellin. If you are a "Where the hoes at guy?" Skip this post.

I have a girlfriend in Medellin and I have not paid a prostitute in Colombia up to this date. Although I do find many of the posts in this thread to be quite informative. The ones challenging the amount that others pay for pussy or judgments of the quality of the prostitutes being hired is based on price if find to be quite useless. When the time comes to pay a prostitute I will report it here.

but taxis from the airport to Poblado cost 90,000 pesos ($21) in Colombia.

There is a sign, where you pick up your luggage, that informs tourists how much the taxi is -- and yes it clearly states 98,000 COP if you want the car all to yourself (a shared ride is cheaper, if someone is found to share it with you).

On 6/1/23 it was 98 K. That has been the same price all year for me.

My experiences have been, 90,000 COP from city to MDE airport. Shout out to my ISG Brother who hit me on the back channel with the information of making a reservation with a taxi service. But, when I arrive, I have been being charged 120,000 COP for the ride into the city. Consistently. What I have been told is that after a certain hour the rate goes up. And let me tell you gentlemen, all the drivers are consistent. They would not budge at all. And I asked half a dozen different drivers and they all gave me the same price. But now I have at least found a driver that I trust. And when I hit him the day before to take me to the airport he showed up 45 minutes early and told me he would just wait down stairs until I was ready. I am finding that I need a solid 3 hours to check in, clear immigration and arrive at my gate on time.

ATMs are our friends.

ATMs have not been my friend. The exchange rate I got was horrible from the ATMs. What did find is the my credit card company gave me great exchange rates. That is not usually the case when I travel. Colombia is strange in that regard.

Most people use an ATM in the airport to get taxi money.

Yes, on my second trip I did that. I saw one as I exited before breaking right for the taxis. Thank you.

Hope you enjoy your trip SubCmdr. Lots of great info from your posts in the Dominican thread. Official taxi from MDE are 90 k and that includes tolls as the airport is something like a 45 min away from the actual city.

I have found the taxi out of the city to the airport to be 90,000 COP just as you said.

Have you considered using a schwabb checking account or capital one checking account and using the debit card (no no fees from these banks) to withdraw money instead of exchanging actual currency?

I have been using the account suggested since APPL was trading at 4. So thank you, it is excellent recommendation and I make it to others also.

Also, you should try guarapo (cane juice with lime in it. Similar to our united states lemonade, but much better) and bandeja paisa (a meal with a little bit of everything on the plate. It originated in this area). Have fun.

I tried both and enjoyed both. Thank you for the suggestions. I have had a great time during my visits to Medellin. I find it to be a breath of fresh air compared to the Dominican Republic. A will organized city with strong infrastructure and domestically produced good of high quality. I shop and eat out in restaurants with my girlfriend almost everyday.

[SubCmdr]

Full disclosure: I am melanin-rich! I only spend one week a month in Medellin. I like the Dominican Republic enough to live there. And I am renting a room in Sosua next year to try it out. My country of origin is the (Dis) United States of America. I think outside the box.

Anyway, before some of you get all butt-hurt and try to cancel me, just ask yourself: Am I lying?

I am not going to call you an intentional lier. But in my opinion you are misinformed about the Dominican Republic. Forgive me, I just don't remember reading your posts in the Dominican Republic forum over there during last ten years I have been posting there. But if I have missed them please point them out to me so I can do a deeper dive into your work and maybe change my opinion on what you have written here. I am certainly willing to discuss anything you wish to say about the Dominican Republic wherever you would like. I am not using an appeal to authority. So share your facts and opinions but be ready to back up your factual statements.

Not here to cancel anyone. I am here to respond and give a different perspective. So if anyone is not able to handle what I write please stop reading now. I don't want anyone to have an apoplectic fit.

How shall we say it. Melanin-rich variety from the United States.

How shall I say it? Like a man. That is some bullshit! What's up with the code? State it like it is. Are you one of the melanin-rich or melanin-poor? This information will inform my opinion on your attitude.

Yes, I know. Before you berate me, I am very well aware that everyone is here to have a good time. However, if Colombia (Medellin in particular) becomes like the Dominican Republic, it will be a sad day. I hope they find themselves some "get right" if they continue to visit Colombia.

Those are strong words. Are you able to back them up. The ones about the Dominican Republic? May I ask, have you even visited the Dominican Republic? If so, where. I state again, I have missed your posts about it.

Now obviously, a large group of men will be annoyingly loud. There are all-star nations of imbecile tourists. Israelis, Brits, and Aussies are some of the worst in the world. But the difference is that those tourists are usually more well-traveled than our homegrown hooligans and therefore they know how to take it down a notch.

I see we are back to the melanin-rich or melanin-poor comparisons. Have you stopped to think what it takes to get a passport in the United States or any other country? Your description of them is inaccurate at best and 'ist' at worst. Less than 50% of all citizens of the United States of America hold passports. The individual you describe are elite. That is a fact. What you think about them is is your opinion.

P.S. Don't bother messaging me privately unless you have something intelligent to say.

Why would I try to message someone, who seems on the face of it to be ill informed on the Dominican Republic, but insists on using it to compare to things that he does not like that he sees in Colombia? I have no basis to dispute anything you say about Colombia. I do not hang where you hang and therefore I don't see what you see when I am in Colombia.

But in my opinion, your comments about the Dominican Republic indicate to me as a person who actually lives in the country that you don't know jack (my nice word) about the Dominican Republic. Anyone who doubts my knowledge base refer to this post in the Medellin thread:

Hope you enjoy your trip SubCmdr. Lots of great info from your posts in the Dominican thread.

He read my work.

It's good to get the insider's perspective and a bit of inside information about the Dominican Republic.

What inside information about the Dominican Republic is that?

First I want to say you are right about wanting to preserve Medellin and keep it from turning into the mess that is the DR, although I think it's already too late for that.

You and Loki are not right about the Dominican Republic. And in fact as the The Notorious B.I.G. said: "you're dead wrong!".

"Relax and take notes, while I take tokes of the marijuana smoke. " - The Notorious B.I.G, Dead Wrong.

And it is about race and nationality. Your post proves it. That is why you are who you are and writing about it. With the code words and implications that the actions of one group of people are better than another group of people.

I live in the Dominican Republic and unless you are in a very specific place in the the Dominican Republic (Sosua) in a very specific venue (Rumbas / Kings), you will not see any of the actions that are have been described by RamDavison84 or Loki..

And I take issue with terms like Melanin-rich variety from the United States. And I will state further that if you don't believe me about the Dominican Republic, I don't give a fuck. Live in the Dominican Republic for ten years and tell me I am wrong or that I am lying. Then give me some facts to back it up. Opinions, you know what they say about those. I'm writing this from Sosua this very moment. How you like me now?.

Fuck all those who are melanin deprived with bad attitudes. Those who look at culture and cannot understand it. Even when it is been in their face in their own country for years. They are like hammers seeing everything in life like a nail. Individuals like that have been colonizing the world for years. These posts read like the opinions of pussy colonizers that are facing competition from individuals willing to do what others are not.

Just because I don't like an attitude or actions that someone displays does not mean I am going to condemn it. And if I don't like what I see in Rumbas / Kings I do not have to go there. If you don't like the behavior of a certain group of people, be men, use clear language and state who they are. Talk to management of the establishment and ask them to confront the behavior or leave. Do do otherwise is some passive aggressive girly man shit. I understand completely if you see disagreeable behavior and comment on it. But keep the Dominican Republic out of your mother fucking mouth if all you know about it is what you see on Youtube. And if you don't like what I have to say, then put me on ignore. If you throw up weak ass mess, I am going to go hard in the paint and reject that shit forth with!

"I dont give a fuck if you dont like my shit. Cause I was high when I wrote this so suck my dick" - Eminem, Under the Influence..

"I'm using rubbers, so they won't trace the semen
The black demon, got the little hookers screamin' (whoo!)
Because you know I love it young, fresh and green
With no hair in between, know what I mean? (C'mon, I know what you mean)" - The Notorious B.I.G, Dead Wrong..

[Tasss]

I went to a Scotiabank ATM and they're now charging a 20900 COP fee for withdrawals. This is corroborated by another poster here. I guess this leaves BBVA and Davivienda as the only fee free national ATM networks in Colombia? Even though my card reimburses ATM fees, I feel their reimbursements are sometimes off and don't want to deal with it if possible.

[MarquisdeSade1]

I've lost track how many visits I've made here and have never been murdered or robbed (YET).

What are these mongers doing? He wasn't even here 100 hrs on his 1st visit and they find him dead next to a dumpster?

https://www.traveloffpath.com/colombia-losing-popularity-with-americans-as-crimes-against-tourists-spiral-out-of-control

25 tourists murdered in just the 1st 10 months of the year? WTF is that a typo?

that would have to make MDE the most dangerous mongering hub on the planet

[Dcfan77]

No said we are reprimanded my G. Just voicing my opinion in a forum about our sport. Just spoke to a ISG member. Told me his boy payed 800 k for a night. LMAO! Other guy are paying for these hoes college or beautician school, which is the biggest waste of money IMO. Every Colombian girl wants to go to beautician school. OMG! There sure are a lot of simps in this new generation.

How many times have guys who pay more decided to pay less after being reprimanded on ISG? My guess is never. Its a waste of time to criticize overpayers.

[Mr Enternational]

I don't think the price can be affected by a single monger. Let's fast forward 12 months from now. It is possible one of your regulars who you consider hot asks for twice you have been paying because that is what others are paying her.

And no monger can affect the exchange rate, which has been slipping the past few months. Eventually, things reach a point where those that do not care, come to find out actually do care.

[Turgid]

You should care to a certain degree If you are here posting. I do. Thats why DR hoes are charging 150 US and Brazil is pricy too. Why, because of the make it rain mentally. But Hi do you man. Enjoy yourself!

How many times have guys who pay more decided to pay less after being reprimanded on ISG? My guess is never. Its a waste of time to criticize overpayers.

[RamDavidson84]

I haven't really relied on these boards in years. So I haven't posted in quite a while. But. I need to post after visiting Energy recently. From about 2012 to 2020 I was a regular at Energy and I was always able to find a good time there. The talent of the girls is not really why I am writing.

The reason for this post is:

I have noticed that since the pandemic ended, there have been a lot more visitors of the. How shall we say it. Melanin-rich variety from the United States.

In a country as diverse as Colombia with a somewhat equally diverse tourist pool, these folks are quite easily discernible in a crowd regardless of that diversity due to their easy-to-spot behaviors:

They are loud as they are in the States. At least one of them in every group is wearing sandals with socks. They have no real self-awareness when they are out in public (similar to the States I guess). However, they SHOULD be more self-aware since they are not in their own country and can't protect themselves legally should they end up in an altercation. If they are emboldened to act the fool in Colombia, they will get deported and banned, perhaps incarcerated.

Yes, I know. Before you berate me, I am very well aware that everyone is here to have a good time. However, if Colombia (Medellin in particular) becomes like the Dominican Republic, it will be a sad day. I hope they find themselves some "get right" if they continue to visit Colombia.

Anyway. Back to the incident at Energy. A group of nine of them came in the other day. It was disgraceful.

They cat-called the girls unnecessarily when they came out to present themselves. It was embarrassing to hear them calling out numbers like they were at a Magic City auction. One of these "gentlemen" was talking out loud in English referring to one of the girls as "his working girl". I wish someone would give them an etiquette course when they applied for their passport. It's frustrating because I leave the States to get away from these types of people. Much to my chagrin, they are here now in larger numbers and with more frequency..

First I want to say you are right about wanting to preserve Medellin and keep it from turning into the mess that is the DR, although I think it's already too late for that. Like you kind of already stated, any group of young guys on vacation are going to be rowdy. I been to Cartagena, Sosua, Santo Domingo, Jaco and never once have I had a problem with the way any urban Americans rolled. They were all just trying to have a good time like everyone else. Any group of young guys at that age on a mongering trip are going to be rowdy. Now what goes on behind closed doors, I don't know. The biggest problem is just social media and the huge numbers of tourists in general. Dudes filming everything and blasting it all over instagram and youtube.

I have said this before. We should try to uphold the narrative on the forum of preservation of the game. This means keep your head down, treat everyone right, don't splash your cash, and stay the fuck out of any legal trouble. Bring class to the game to preserve it. And stop filming and taking pictures of every little fucking thing you do.

Sad to say, but Cartagena is already ruined, look at all the druggings in Medellin. Many have switched to the new spot which is good for now, but how long until cat is out of the bag on that one and tons of videos go up and tourists ruin that place too.

[JohnnyWalker55]

I haven't really relied on these boards in years. So I haven't posted in quite a while. But. I need to post after visiting Energy recently. From about 2012 to 2020 I was a regular at Energy and I was always able to find a good time there. The talent of the girls is not really why I am writing.

The reason for this post is:

I have noticed that since the pandemic ended, there have been a lot more visitors of the. How shall we say it. Melanin-rich variety from the United States.

In a country as diverse as Colombia with a somewhat equally diverse tourist pool, these folks are quite easily discernible in a crowd regardless of that diversity due to their easy-to-spot behaviors:

They are loud as they are in the States. At least one of them in every group is wearing sandals with socks. They have no real self-awareness when they are out in public (similar to the States I guess). However, they SHOULD be more self-aware since they are not in their own country and can't protect themselves legally should they end up in an altercation. If they are emboldened to act the fool in Colombia, they will get deported and banned, perhaps incarcerated.

Yes, I know. Before you berate me, I am very well aware that everyone is here to have a good time. However, if Colombia (Medellin in particular) becomes like the Dominican Republic, it will be a sad day. I hope they find themselves some "get right" if they continue to visit Colombia.

Anyway. Back to the incident at Energy. A group of nine of them came in the other day. It was disgraceful..

I have been living 6 months of the year in mde since 2015. This stopped in Dec. 2021 when the city started going viral on social media. It is like Tulum or Cancun or Sosua now, fools with selfie sticks and go pros trying to go viral on tiktok or youtube and blowing up spots on twitter. It is really embarrassing behavior when you think about it, grown men taking little videos of their lives overseas because of insecurity. The group you mentioned used to be relegated to Cartagena, but now they have taken over "medejeen". It isn't a particular race thing though, you have all kinds of dweebs coming from the states that don't speak a lick of Spanish acting like marks.

For me Medellin is uninhabitable now, even sabaneta, envigado. There is a little enclave where ricerocket is, but not going to mention it. Currently in a smaller antioqueño town and it is calm, but boring tbh. And Bogota is too cold, zona t / g are getting over run as well. Tier 2-3 cities are the best option in Colombia right now unless you don't mind the piss poor American behavior (I am American BTW).

[Knowledge]

Thanks for the heads up and the Energy update. It's good to get the insider's perspective and a bit of inside information about the Dominican Republic. Did you have any observations about girls you are willing to add to your social observations?

I haven't really relied on these boards in years. So I haven't posted in quite a while. But. I need to post after visiting Energy recently. From about 2012 to 2020 I was a regular at Energy and I was always able to find a good time there. The talent of the girls is not really why I am writing.

The reason for this post is:

I have noticed that since the pandemic ended, there have been a lot more visitors of the. How shall we say it. Melanin-rich variety from the United States.

In a country as diverse as Colombia with a somewhat equally diverse tourist pool, these folks are quite easily discernible in a crowd regardless of that diversity due to their easy-to-spot behaviors:

They are loud as they are in the States. At least one of them in every group is wearing sandals with socks. They have no real self-awareness when they are out in public (similar to the States I guess). However, they SHOULD be more self-aware since they are not in their own country and can't protect themselves legally should they end up in an altercation. If they are emboldened to act the fool in Colombia, they will get deported and banned, perhaps incarcerated..

[Hunglow1625]

I've been going to Med since 2005. I've too seen the changes (for the bad) with these type tourists. I was there a few weeks ago and was shocked to see as many fools from the states as I did. Colombians are reserved for the most part. So to watch these loud obnoxious American tourists behave the way they did was so embarrassing. A group of them were yelling (in English) to a young boy who was a beggar. They totally berated him. Then they did something and ran through the street yelling and laughing and then about 5 of them jumped in a little Yellow Taxi, slammed the doors on it yelling for the Taxi to "Go!" At this time this boys friends were yelling for the Policia! For whatever this group of hoods had done to their friend. The Cops were taking their time so the cab eventually left. I'm sure they handed him money because he didn't want to go at first. Something has to give. A few things can happen there, and I hope it eventually does to some of them and it sends a message. It makes your heart sink watching the bad behaviour from Americans there when your also American.

I haven't really relied on these boards in years. So I haven't posted in quite a while. But. I need to post after visiting Energy recently. From about 2012 to 2020 I was a regular at Energy and I was always able to find a good time there. The talent of the girls is not really why I am writing.

The reason for this post is:

I have noticed that since the pandemic ended, there have been a lot more visitors of the. How shall we say it. Melanin-rich variety from the United States.

In a country as diverse as Colombia with a somewhat equally diverse tourist pool, these folks are quite easily discernible in a crowd regardless of that diversity due to their easy-to-spot behaviors:

They are loud as they are in the States. At least one of them in every group is wearing sandals with socks. They have no real self-awareness when they are out in public (similar to the States I guess). However, they SHOULD be more self-aware since they are not in their own country and can't protect themselves legally should they end up in an altercation. If they are emboldened to act the fool in Colombia, they will get deported and banned, perhaps incarcerated.

Yes, I know. Before you berate me, I am very well aware that everyone is here to have a good time. However, if Colombia (Medellin in particular) becomes like the Dominican Republic, it will be a sad day. I hope they find themselves some "get right" if they continue to visit Colombia.

Anyway. Back to the incident at Energy. A group of nine of them came in the other day. It was disgraceful.

They cat-called the girls unnecessarily when they came out to present themselves. It was embarrassing to hear them calling out numbers like they were at a Magic City auction. One of these "gentlemen" was talking out loud in English referring to one of the girls as "his working girl". I wish someone would give them an etiquette course when they applied for their passport. It's frustrating because I leave the States to get away from these types of people. Much to my chagrin, they are here now in larger numbers and with more frequency.

Now obviously, a large group of men will be annoyingly loud. There are all-star nations of imbecile tourists. Israelis, Brits, and Aussies are some of the worst in the world. But the difference is that those tourists are usually more well-traveled than our homegrown hooligans and therefore they know how to take it down a notch.

All I can say is that these guys better watch it or else they'll make the news if one of them decides to mouth off in Parque Lleras. I hope they try to pull their shenanigans in Castilla or Manrique. That would be hilarious! And if you mess with the police, you will end up in a bad place.

Anyway, before some of you get all butt-hurt and try to cancel me, just ask yourself: Am I lying?

-Loki.

P.S. Don't bother messaging me privately unless you have something intelligent to say.

[Loki]

I haven't really relied on these boards in years. So I haven't posted in quite a while. But. I need to post after visiting Energy recently. From about 2012 to 2020 I was a regular at Energy and I was always able to find a good time there. The talent of the girls is not really why I am writing.

The reason for this post is:

I have noticed that since the pandemic ended, there have been a lot more visitors of the. How shall we say it. Melanin-rich variety from the United States.

In a country as diverse as Colombia with a somewhat equally diverse tourist pool, these folks are quite easily discernible in a crowd regardless of that diversity due to their easy-to-spot behaviors:

They are loud as they are in the States. At least one of them in every group is wearing sandals with socks. They have no real self-awareness when they are out in public (similar to the States I guess). However, they SHOULD be more self-aware since they are not in their own country and can't protect themselves legally should they end up in an altercation. If they are emboldened to act the fool in Colombia, they will get deported and banned, perhaps incarcerated.

Yes, I know. Before you berate me, I am very well aware that everyone is here to have a good time. However, if Colombia (Medellin in particular) becomes like the Dominican Republic, it will be a sad day. I hope they find themselves some "get right" if they continue to visit Colombia.

Anyway. Back to the incident at Energy. A group of nine of them came in the other day. It was disgraceful.

They cat-called the girls unnecessarily when they came out to present themselves. It was embarrassing to hear them calling out numbers like they were at a Magic City auction. One of these "gentlemen" was talking out loud in English referring to one of the girls as "his working girl". I wish someone would give them an etiquette course when they applied for their passport. It's frustrating because I leave the States to get away from these types of people. Much to my chagrin, they are here now in larger numbers and with more frequency.

Now obviously, a large group of men will be annoyingly loud. There are all-star nations of imbecile tourists. Israelis, Brits, and Aussies are some of the worst in the world. But the difference is that those tourists are usually more well-traveled than our homegrown hooligans and therefore they know how to take it down a notch.

All I can say is that these guys better watch it or else they'll make the news if one of them decides to mouth off in Parque Lleras. I hope they try to pull their shenanigans in Castilla or Manrique. That would be hilarious! And if you mess with the police, you will end up in a bad place.

Anyway, before some of you get all butt-hurt and try to cancel me, just ask yourself: Am I lying?

-Loki.

P.S. Don't bother messaging me privately unless you have something intelligent to say.

[SubCmdr]

Age doesn't matter, especially in Medellin, especially if you're doing p4 p. Ugly is in your mind. If you think you're ugly, women will see you as ugly. Carry yourself with confidence and that's what women see. It doesn't take much time. You just need to find the places to look that fit into your life. If I'm searching out women, 5-10 minutes is more than enough to get her Whatsapp. Then it just takes a bit of patience and a few minutes for each exchange.

To clarify, I'm not competing with other men, and I'm not trying to be the highest bidder. All I've ever done was get a girl's attention and pique her interest. For every "in demand" stunner in Medellin, there are 100 more, just as beautiful, who would love the chance to meet a nice gringo.

Drop the bat and watch walk off home run!

I made the point in another post in another thread here in the Colombia forum that one should pay attention to their appearance and I was called an idiot by one of our less eloquent posters that populate the forum. Attitude and looks matter. In both transactional and non transactional relationships. As an example, I was getting a little straggly and needed a haircut and a shave. As I was walking with my girl I saw a barbershop and approached a young barber with a client and he invited me to be next. Long story short after he finished up with me. I came out of the shop and my girl told me I looked five years younger. And anecdotal illustration for sure. But looking your best and projecting confidence has never hurt anyone in life.