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  1. #507

    At the risk of this turning into a war.

    Quote Originally Posted by MiamiBoy1  [View Original Post]
    A girl next door type can't be a 9 or 10. Unless you live in Bel Air and your neighbor is young Adriana Lima. A girl next door is an average looking chica, maybe in the 6 to 7 range.
    Nonsense. Absolutely stunning women can be found almost anywhere. There's no worldwide agency inspecting every girl born and whisking away all the ones who will turn out to be "stunners" to some hidden enclave, where they're raised by a secret society entrusted with providing 10's to the world's elite.

    Now, you might not consider what someone else calls a GND as a 9 or 10, but many others would disagree. In my opinion a GND is simply a beautiful woman, without the overworked hair and makeup, who typically dresses in normal attire.

    Many don't realize that it is extremely difficult to find and score a true stunner, a 9 or a 10. Even those who are p4 p. They are scarce, they are in a very high demand, they are picky who they sleep with because they have plenty of options. Just think about it, a 9/10 or 10/10 are literally in the category of the most beautiful girls you have seen in your life. And some of us are in our 40's, 50's, 60' and 70's. What is the probability of a monger fucking one of the most beautiful girls he has ever met? How many of said girl would an average monger score in his life?
    I used to think the same way. "She's too beautiful to be interested in me. " "I can't compete with all the guys who are after her. " That mindset makes it extremely difficult and is probably why so many guys find themselves going to p4 p in order to get above average women.

    Then I started talking to 1, just talk, normal stuff. She met all the requirements. She was in high demand, millionaires and billionaires were wooing her (and 25 years ago billionaires were a lot more scarce). She was beautiful, in face and body and she wasn't just jumping into bed with anyone. Yet, she ended up in my bed many times, often after going on a date with the guys who were supposedly my competition.

    It's quite simple. Most of the guys you think you're competing with are either idiots or assholes. All any guy needs to do is to be a decent human being with at least a bit of a sense of humor. That combined with good hygiene and a dash of sincerity works wonders.

    How many would a monger score in his life? That's a tough question. Before I started mongering (in my 50's), there were maybe a dozen. Since switching mostly to P4P, 5 or 6. I no longer see the point in seeking them out, besides I'm still doing the GF thing.

    Me personally, I never had a 10. I had only one 9. Maybe 4-5 in the 8/8.5 range. All others, hundreds of them, were in the 6 to 8 range. So when someone says he scored a 9 or 10, I get skeptical, because most likely he is delusional. Especially when I hear "I paid her 200 mil", "I'm old, ugly, and have no game", etc. Wake the fuck up and adjust your 1-10 scale.
    This part confuses me. You've posted many times about going after only the top women, the best of the best, only the most beautiful for you. You've attacked many others because you felt they were only going after inferior women. Yet, with only a few exceptions, you say that almost all of the girls you've been with were in most guys average to above average range.

    I don't use a 1-10 scale. If I did, a 6 would be a casa girl I'd settle for, because I didn't feel like looking for anything better, while a 7 would be 1 of the better casa girls. That's a 50-60 k girl. An 8 would be a HCEQV Facebook girl (a girl I can set up a date with by messaging "Hola. Como estas? Quiero verte), formerly 200 k, now no more than 300 k. Girls above an 8 usually require a conversation and a little more money, if I was rating them that way.

    Age doesn't matter, especially in Medellin, especially if you're doing p4 p. Ugly is in your mind. If you think you're ugly, women will see you as ugly. Carry yourself with confidence and that's what women see. It doesn't take much time. You just need to find the places to look that fit into your life. If I'm searching out women, 5-10 minutes is more than enough to get her Whatsapp. Then it just takes a bit of patience and a few minutes for each exchange.

    To clarify, I'm not competing with other men, and I'm not trying to be the highest bidder. All I've ever done was get a girl's attention and pique her interest. For every "in demand" stunner in Medellin, there are 100 more, just as beautiful, who would love the chance to meet a nice gringo.

  2. #506
    Quote Originally Posted by ColombiaLover  [View Original Post]
    A true girl next door. Those are the type I think are 9's and 10's.
    A girl next door type can't be a 9 or 10. Unless you live in Bel Air and your neighbor is young Adriana Lima. A girl next door is an average looking chica, maybe in the 6 to 7 range.

    Many don't realize that it is extremely difficult to find and score a true stunner, a 9 or a 10. Even those who are p4 p. They are scarce, they are in a very high demand, they are picky who they sleep with because they have plenty of options. Just think about it, a 9/10 or 10/10 are literally in the category of the most beautiful girls you have seen in your life. And some of us are in our 40's, 50's, 60' and 70's. What is the probability of a monger fucking one of the most beautiful girls he has ever met? How many of said girl would an average monger score in his life?

    Me personally, I never had a 10. I had only one 9. Maybe 4-5 in the 8/8.5 range. All others, hundreds of them, were in the 6 to 8 range. So when someone says he scored a 9 or 10, I get skeptical, because most likely he is delusional. Especially when I hear "I paid her 200 mil", "I'm old, ugly, and have no game", etc. Wake the fuck up and adjust your 1-10 scale.

  3. #505
    Quote Originally Posted by ColombiaLover  [View Original Post]
    But a 9 or a 10 by what standard? First, are we only talking about putas? Or also semi-pros? Non-pros?

    Second, I at least hope we all agree that when you pay a high price for a so-called 9 or 10, that guarantees virtually nothing, other than to feel good about yourself for paying a lot of money for someone you perceive as a 9 or 10. The amount you pay does not guarantee good service. In fact, some of these model-types thinks their shit doesn't stink and they provide average (or below service) because there is always some guys who is willing to pay for the fantasy. Not saying all 9's and 10's give bad service, but many do.

    Finally, what exactly is a 9 or 10? We act as if we all agree. I, for one, don't like the typical girl that many of you all might consider a 9 or 10. I like nice, natural hair. I like a pretty face, particularly one with little or no make-up. I like natural be-cup tits. I like smooth, soft skin with no tatoos (I don't care about a girl who works out so much her stomach looks like a male body-builder). I like a cute ass, but not a fat ass. I prefer spinners. I hate silicone. I hate girls who wear fake Gucci, Prado, Guess, etc. And think they are cool. I hate girls who feel they need to have treatments or surgeries. I don't need a chica with her chin done or a veneer. Give me natural. A true girl next door. Those are the type I think are 9's and 10's. Models don't impress me. I am sure some of you will agree and some prefer the exact type I despise. But that's why generalizing (about price or anything else) about so-called 9's and 10's is impossible.
    I definitely agree preferring natural over silicone. Even lipo or fat freezing or face contouring etc is a no go. . But a pretty smile is a must.

  4. #504
    But a 9 or a 10 by what standard? First, are we only talking about putas? Or also semi-pros? Non-pros?

    Second, I at least hope we all agree that when you pay a high price for a so-called 9 or 10, that guarantees virtually nothing, other than to feel good about yourself for paying a lot of money for someone you perceive as a 9 or 10. The amount you pay does not guarantee good service. In fact, some of these model-types thinks their shit doesn't stink and they provide average (or below service) because there is always some guys who is willing to pay for the fantasy. Not saying all 9's and 10's give bad service, but many do.

    Finally, what exactly is a 9 or 10? We act as if we all agree. I, for one, don't like the typical girl that many of you all might consider a 9 or 10. I like nice, natural hair. I like a pretty face, particularly one with little or no make-up. I like natural be-cup tits. I like smooth, soft skin with no tatoos (I don't care about a girl who works out so much her stomach looks like a male body-builder). I like a cute ass, but not a fat ass. I prefer spinners. I hate silicone. I hate girls who wear fake Gucci, Prado, Guess, etc. And think they are cool. I hate girls who feel they need to have treatments or surgeries. I don't need a chica with her chin done or a veneer. Give me natural. A true girl next door. Those are the type I think are 9's and 10's. Models don't impress me. I am sure some of you will agree and some prefer the exact type I despise. But that's why generalizing (about price or anything else) about so-called 9's and 10's is impossible.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chicago85  [View Original Post]
    Agree 100%. If these '9's and 10's' can be had for 200 k either the girl or the guy is completely blind. Perhaps both LOL.

  5. #503
    Quote Originally Posted by Sangnyc21  [View Original Post]

    I never think I am better than anyone. Regardless if they spend 40 k or 400 usd on a girl.

    .... if you look at the pattern of behavior of some people they like to poke at guys who spend more think that the guys who spend more are fools or idiots.

    .... my favorite. The in demand 8's-10's can be had for 200 mil...

    Then they talk about how all girls are poor and can't afford nothing meanwhile half these hookers have the most up to date iPhones and spend 1000's a month on make up, nail, etc.

    Everyone has different standards in mongering and dating... So let's move on from this nonsense since those fools are nowhere to be found.
    Agree 100%. If these '9's and 10's' can be had for 200 k either the girl or the guy is completely blind. Perhaps both LOL.

  6. #502

    Fact v Opinions

    Quote Originally Posted by Sangnyc21  [View Original Post]
    Yes 100%. If a girl truly feels comfortable with you she will one day simply jump on top.
    Agreed. Something I have experienced. But still an opinion.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sangnyc21  [View Original Post]
    Bringing that specific service up as a topic will usually scare a lot of girls.
    Another opinion. These girls are getting paid for a service. You should ask for what you want. A girl who runs because I ask for a particular service is a girl I don't want to be with in the first place. The last thing you want is a girl that promises everything and then does not deliver. Get to no quickly. No one ever gets disappointed by positive surprises only negative ones. Keep an abundance mind set. If only one (1) out of eight (8) say yes make sure you ask at least eight.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sangnyc21  [View Original Post]
    Young girls new to the game or druggies sws are the only group that will entertain such offers.
    This statement is written as a fact when the writer clearly knows he is expressing his opinion.

    Opinion: An opinion is a judgment, viewpoint, or statement that is not conclusive, rather than facts, which are true statements.

  7. #501
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    Good thing those Lleras, FB, and SA chicks will charge less since the exchange rate is falling.
    Where does that leave the person that is uninterested in paying more?

  8. #500
    Quote Originally Posted by TjBrazil  [View Original Post]
    The reason your friend was cheating on his hot wife with 5's and 6's is because she is bad in bed. Back in the 2000's Halle berry was in the news a lot for being cheated on constantly and getting dumped. My boss asked me why this is happening to her so much. I said because she sucks in bed. Period. As mongers we know what pse is. Most guys married to hot women don't. Elizabeth Hurley is hot and an Oxford graduate. Hugh grant cheated on her with a five dollar crack working girl. He wanted a real BJ.
    I just think us as mongers have a different mindset and always need something new.

    Once you're with a girl in a real relationship there really isn't anything she won't do. I simply think we're not built to be content with one girl regardless of how hot she is.

  9. #499
    Quote Originally Posted by Chicago85  [View Original Post]
    Your comments regarding BBFS have not been my experience. I don't necessarily look for it as I don't want to get a girl pregnant, but I've had Seeking girls, IG 'model' girls, and hot regulars that ask me 'How can I make more than your standard? . I'll say you need to do something more (ie BBFS). Maybe 1 in 8 agrees. And usually the BBFS just happens when we've had a fight or they think I'm going to leave them. On the other end of the spectrum I've had girls stop seeing me as the simple questing made them think that I was raw dogging a bunch of girls and putting their health at risk. Of note, I'm early 40's (pass for younger) and in very good and healthy shape. Regular check ups, etc. It's not like I'm a degenerate looking guy, but regardless the girls won't take the risk.
    Yes 100%. If a girl truly feels comfortable with you she will one day simply jump on top.

    Bringing that specific service up as a topic will usually scare a lot of girls.

    Young girls new to the game or druggies sws are the only group that will entertain such offers.

  10. #498
    Quote Originally Posted by TjBrazil  [View Original Post]
    The reason your friend was cheating on his hot wife with 5's and 6's is because she is bad in bed.
    No matter how PSE she could get it will get boring after a while. Speaking from experience. One can only have the same meal over and over again for so long. You eventually won't even notice that once great view from your window. Variety is the spice of life.

    No to mention men are wired to spread the seed not to dump it all in one woman. If she can keep herself fresh and new for her man, then she can delay it for a while. Some relationship-jailed men are getting their variety fix from porn, but eventually that's doesn't do either. Women know this of course which is why all the different outfits, makeups and all the pressure to get that most important contract signed ASAP while she's still fuckable and 'new' . Then she can finally relax and start getting fat and lazy. Places with a lot of reasonably priced hookers often keep all the wives honest though. No girls to have fun with -- I just ate a whole cake honey and don't feel like blowing you, order yourself something and go to sleep.

  11. #497

    How to say no and move on

    This is to all the simps and that can't say no. An example how to say no.
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  12. #496
    The reason your friend was cheating on his hot wife with 5's and 6's is because she is bad in bed. Back in the 2000's Halle berry was in the news a lot for being cheated on constantly and getting dumped. My boss asked me why this is happening to her so much. I said because she sucks in bed. Period. As mongers we know what pse is. Most guys married to hot women don't. Elizabeth Hurley is hot and an Oxford graduate. Hugh grant cheated on her with a five dollar crack working girl. He wanted a real BJ.

  13. #495
    Good thing those Lleras, FB, and SA chicks will charge less since the exchange rate is falling.
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  14. #494
    Quote Originally Posted by SankarShetty  [View Original Post]
    I have not heard of this expression, it does makes sense though. Over the years I have cultivated some friendships in this city. One retired footballer comes to my mind. The guy currently owns a gourmet coffee shop in the Belen area. Early 40's, fit and reasonably well off for Colombian standards. We have gone to casas / clubs a couple of times and he picks average looking chicas. One Friday a couple of months age, I met his family for dinner and was blown away at how gorgeous super model type his wife was. A perfect 8 or 9 and he still lusts after an occasional 5 and 6 chicas!
    Now can you understand what some of us have been saying? We have been there and done that and gotten the coffee mug. It is not that we can not get that kind of chick or in the mongering world can't afford to pay a chick like that. Like your buddy, we are just hanging out having a good time with what comes our way. We are not out like a heat seeking missle saying this is the only type of chick that I must get. After you have had tons of them it is no big deal and in many cases the juice is not worth the squeeze as several people have written reports showing.

  15. #493

    In Town

    I am in the city starting next week. PM me of you want to hang out or grab a beer / coffee. Please do not ping me if you are only interested in asking to share some GFE contacts. It took time and effort to build my relationships here.

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