Sugar Life

[Plush Tiger]

Gosh, I have never thought at this level of detail. You are way over thinking this. It's not a complex deal which requires so much thought. I have a certain number in mind and that's what I got with. If it works for her than great, else we move on. I do not negotiate. For the first few meets will pay that number divided by 4 but mostly after the second meeting just pay her the entire monthly amount. Don't have specific hours in mind ever. Mostly it ends up as weekly meetings, some of those are overnight. With Corona, overnight has become more of a norm.

My main concern as I said was that I thought if offer to pay by the hour or meet, it might end up in offending her, as she many would say they are not WG / P4P kind of providers and then you risk paying a few reds and a dinner and go home alone (LOL). There's an ambiguous part where sex is expected but not guaranteed. How do you spot those who just come get paid for their time, get wined and dined to kiss you goodbye when the clock strikes twelve. Where I spend my twenties it the "friends without benefits" phenomenon was well known and you had all this beautiful creatures who would spend their time catching hapless suckers who would invite them to shows, restaurants etc. Without scoring. And I imagine the same happens with some SB hence my questions.

[JyinJapan]

I agree with you. Upsells are a total turnoff. When you have an arrangement like your, which sounds amazing or with some regulars as in my case, there is no upsell discussion. If she does it, she will. Money is not discussed. Some gals don't do some things and I accept this. But if they do, it comes with the package not as an additional option.

After SB, it feels tiresome when Russian Angels starts tagging on 200 for CIM, extra for thjs and extra for that. With Coco, it is pretty much anything goes, it's been like that with most of them.

[BoobyBooby5]

Hey BB,

These figures are USD or AED? Would share my spent allowances accordingly.

They are in AED.

[Mawgan]

Great FR! Nice to get an honorable mention. There is so much pushy around I can't possibly handle it all, so happy to share some of my own hints and tips too. Will do over the next night or two.

Wanted to address some of the most common questions which I get on using SA. Hopefully folks will find this useful. By having a better selection of SDs, I am hoping that we have a better selection of SBs also. Of course Oil Rich, BB, Alex and Mawgan are the masters of that Domain and we all run the risk of them swooping in and having any SB they desire.

[Want More]

After SB, it feels tiresome when Russian Angels starts tagging on 200 for CIM, extra for thjs and extra for that. With Coco, it is pretty much anything goes, it's been like that with most of them.

[Want More]

Great report WM.

Just a question regarding the arrangement. What's the time frame that is used as a basis for the encounter? Is it per hour, per meet, per day etc? A monthly allowance with a certain number of meetings? How about the terms of payment, before, after? Do you negotiate a bonus on performance LOL? How do you protect yourself to make sure that she does not take the monies and disappears.

Gosh, I have never thought at this level of detail. You are way over thinking this. It's not a complex deal which requires so much thought. I have a certain number in mind and that's what I got with. If it works for her than great, else we move on. I do not negotiate. For the first few meets will pay that number divided by 4 but mostly after the second meeting just pay her the entire monthly amount. Don't have specific hours in mind ever. Mostly it ends up as weekly meetings, some of those are overnight. With Corona, overnight has become more of a norm.

I have had few instances where she was not meeting during that month, so just stopped paying. In one instance had a chat with her and didn't pay for the next few weeks when we met, in another, she had left Dubai and in another just got lost. Maybe I lost of money there if I go by the per meet standard but I more than made up for it in the satisfaction of the meet.

I have seen an inverse correlation between the amount and how good our arrangement is. In the early days, I had paid a lot for onetime stuff and it was uniformly unsatisfying for me. For example, with Coco currently, she gets a monthly lumpsum, the first time I meet her in the month. We meet weekly or few times a week or none at all. She doesn't really get into it with me and neither do I. She has access to my Uber account, Carrefour account, Groupon for car cleaning, maid agency account, deliveroo, instacart and this Egyptian guy who can run errands. She uses all these once in awhile except for car cleaning which she uses every month. I am thankful for it, so her car is not like a pig sty. In return for all this I get some absolutely incredible evenings when I am with her. She is going to get into trouble one day but she has totally stopped wearing panties, always wants me to know that. Is keen to burn her bra and that will create a scandal considering size of her tits and thin material of her blouses. There in nothing she will not do in bed and in very very keen to have a threesome if I arrange for it.

For the times that I had girls come to visit me Dubai from Egypt / morroco, it was a fixed sum for the trip. I have them half when they came in and the rest in the middle of the trip so they have an opportunity to shop etc. Many years ago, I was taught that it is better to tip before your meal. I carry that over in SA too and I have had surprisingly few bad experiences.

[Plush Tiger]

6. Costs.

This is by far the most common question I get on PM. I am not going mention the exact amounts so you can stop reading now if you want the exact no and refer to the excellent post by others on the amounts. My view is that pay what works for you and her. If it doesn't work move on and find someone else. The only other 'amount' related pointer, I will provide is that don't expect this to be cheap and measure it by the satisfactory experience rather than by hours and shots.

Great report WM.

Just a question regarding the arrangement. What's the time frame that is used as a basis for the encounter? Is it per hour, per meet, per day etc? A monthly allowance with a certain number of meetings? How about the terms of payment, before, after? Do you negotiate a bonus on performance LOL? How do you protect yourself to make sure that she does not take the monies and disappears.

[Joe Karnavic]

Wanted to address some of the most common questions which I get on using SA. Hopefully folks will find this useful. By having a better selection of SDs, I am hoping that we have a better selection of SBs also. Of course Oil Rich, BB, Alex and Mawgan are the masters of that Domain and we all run the risk of them swooping in and having any SB they desire.

1. Membership.
You don't stand a chance of having a successful experience as a SD if you are not a fully paid up member of SA with the ability to message the girls. I don't use the app but prefer to use the website directly. The monthly membership fees are set by SA and that's the price of entry. To be honest, if you find USD 100 pm expensive, you don't stand a chance to play in the sugar bowl and are better off exploring some of the other options to wet your wicker.
3. Post it on the forum.
4. Write your experience.

Extraordinary report WM, a through guide for many who wish to venture into your world of SA and sugarbabies. I recommend it to be ROD!!

[Want More]

Wanted to address some of the most common questions which I get on using SA. Hopefully folks will find this useful. By having a better selection of SDs, I am hoping that we have a better selection of SBs also. Of course Oil Rich, BB, Alex and Mawgan are the masters of that Domain and we all run the risk of them swooping in and having any SB they desire.

1. Membership.

You don't stand a chance of having a successful experience as a SD if you are not a fully paid up member of SA with the ability to message the girls. I don't use the app but prefer to use the website directly. The monthly membership fees are set by SA and that's the price of entry. To be honest, if you find USD 100 pm expensive, you don't stand a chance to play in the sugar bowl and are better off exploring some of the other options to wet your wicker.

The premium SD is sufficient to get a good selection of girls contacting you. I tried the Diamond Membership, you will get 10 X the messages from random girls who are not even in Dubai. I don't think it is necessary.

If you have difficulty in using your credit card then reach out to customer service, they are most helpful to paying members or members who intend to pay. They will sort out your issues.

2. Setting up your profile.

Make sure you are writing enough about yourself so that you are weed out a lot of rubbish. You will still get random messages but they will be fewer. You will also be able to screen the girls properly, since you know which ones have read your profile. I am honest about what I expect from a relationship and in describing myself. For networth and earnings, I keep it high enough to make it interesting but this is not my taxman so they are not the real numbers. You don't need to be a billionaire but do need to be comfortable with money and have a steady stream of income. Remember the deal is that you open your wallet and she her legs. The thicker the wallet, the more they will spread.

My other personal details are accurate on the site. I have a small selection of photos, most are selfies but also my official Corporate photo is there. These are not blurred.

3. Browsing Profiles.

You have two main options here. Newest and Recently active. The 'Nearest to you' is a useless option. I have a car and can drive or Uber is still available in plenty. Also this option throws up profiles which have not been active for months.

I have had success with the Newest and Recently Active but my preference is you use Recently active. I will typically just stick to the first 2 pages, that has the profiles which are online or have been on-line in the past few hours.

I don't speak to anyone who doesn't live in Dubai. That eliminates travelers, visitors and those who want me to arrange for travel. Emirates does an excellent job of arranging travel and I will never measure up to their standards. So she is better off going to their website which I happily share with them. They also offer a selection of hotels and car rentals that she can chose from.

4. First Contact.

Reach out to all the girls whose profile appeals to you and gives you a hard-on. This is the tricky part and needs some game. 'Hi, How are you?" is sufficient in most cases but a more descriptive message will strengthen you chances of a engaging reply. My intention is that from the first reply to moving to Whatapp should take not more one more exchange ie within totally 2 messages from me, we should be on whatsapp or I have moved on. The website is a pain to use, and if there is all sorts of secrecy, I expect to be problems going forward.

If the replies are slightly off or don't appeal to me, I will tell them it doesn't work for me and move on.

5. Communications.

I am not much of a chat for too long type person, my objective on whatsapp is to conduct screening and set up a meeting. For screening, ask for photos and I again clearly repeat what I expect and ask for a first meeting over lunch. Lunch is my favorite meeting format. I don't keep late nights. With a lunch, if things work out then, she is on her knees by 4 and we have wrapped up the whole day by dinnertime. If this is a Friday lunch then she will mostly be offered the option to stay over for the weekend. This was mostly accepted. It was much easier when I had the apartment, I have tried it once with hotels and has been relatively easy.

I never speak on the phone or video call.

6. Costs.

This is by far the most common question I get on PM. I am not going mention the exact amounts so you can stop reading now if you want the exact no and refer to the excellent post by others on the amounts. My view is that pay what works for you and her. If it doesn't work move on and find someone else. The only other 'amount' related pointer, I will provide is that don't expect this to be cheap and measure it by the satisfactory experience rather than by hours and shots.

The pricing negotiations in inherently asymmetric. You have the more money and girls to chose from, while she can negotiate the price only until the first time she opens her legs for you. You also have the option of using your right hand, which while not as satisfying, mostly gets the job done. The biggest asymmetry is that I have years of experience and training in negotiating in far more complex circumstances than she done. Most times, I am careful not use those and keep reminding myself that I am dealing with someone who will eventually me my partner in this and need to give her a fair deal.

This said, I have had my share of 'my time is valuable', I want aed 10 K per week, I want this and I want that. My response is to close the conversation and move on. When someone has been especially insistent on 'value' of her time, I take the effort to put it in perspective that if I paid for 'value' or her time it would not amount to more that AED 400 per day. It is difficult to argue with economic numbers so leads to be either some cursing or a blissful silence of being blocked.

7. Other benefits.

Overtimes, I have developed some guidelines that have worked well for me. Girls are always well fed when they are with me. I don't like the large popular restaurants but these are restaurants where I am known and are of sufficient high quality and exclusiveness to keep the instagrammer in her satisfied. Also, nothing gets her more wet than the staff showing familiarity with you or you inquiring about their families. It also helps that one of these places is 'members only' and I don't have to pay as it goes on my account for monthly settlement. That is an instagram coup for her and this lunch gets posted also most as quickly as the panties drop.

I am scrupulous about she not spending any money to reach me or when with me or having done anything to make our time together more enjoyable. She takes a cab to see me. Get something slipped into her hands, she buys some stuff to us. Gets reimbursed, we are in the mall. She gets some walk around money etc.

Hope everyone finds these useful.

If you have some other questions then please don't message me but follow the below.

1. RTFF.

2. RTFF again.

3. Post it on the forum.

4. Write your experience.

[MoskvaDesi]

Hey BB,

These figures are USD or AED? Would share my spent allowances accordingly.

So, I've been exploring on SA for a few months now. Here is a quick report of my experiences and the allowance I provided. I want to know if I am over paying. Would you mind sharing what you usually provide? Thanks in advance.

1. Four hours indoor meet with a Hungarian blonde - 2 K.

2. Four hours dinner date followed by indoor meet with an east Indian leggy SB - 2 K.

3. Four hours indoor meet with an east Indian SB - 1.5 K.

4. Long term arrangement with an east Indian SB - 8 K for two months with one or two weekly meets.

5. One time meet with a Brazilian SB. Quoted 5 K for 2 hours of dinner + intimacy. I refused.

6. One time indoor meet with a French SB - 1.5 K.

7. Dinner plus overnight with an Asian SB - 1.5 K.

What are your figures?

[MoskvaDesi]

Hi all,

Just posting to say Hi to everyone in this amazing and fun forum. Interestingly (or weirdly) I have been member here for many years but only recently discovered this forum. And I fell lucky to have discovered this group of fellow SDs.

Enjoyed lot of posts here and going through the forum every now and then. Feel I have lot to learn from you guys as I seem to be getting exploited by my SBs (LOL! But then a good time and great experience and connections are forever memories, so it's been okay.

I had to end arrangement with my last SB because of the pandemic and being a tourism businessman, my business took a very bad hit. But old habits die hard, and here I am again just as business is starting to pick up again for search of new experiences.

Stay safe everyone.

Cheers!

[LazyAss69]

So, I've been exploring on SA for a few months now. Here is a quick report of my experiences and the allowance I provided. I want to know if I am over paying. Would you mind sharing what you usually provide? Thanks in advance.

1. Four hours indoor meet with a Hungarian blonde - 2 K.

2. Four hours dinner date followed by indoor meet with an east Indian leggy SB - 2 K.

3. Four hours indoor meet with an east Indian SB - 1.5 K.

4. Long term arrangement with an east Indian SB - 8 K for two months with one or two weekly meets.

5. One time meet with a Brazilian SB. Quoted 5 K for 2 hours of dinner + intimacy. I refused.

6. One time indoor meet with a French SB - 1.5 K.

7. Dinner plus overnight with an Asian SB - 1.5 K.

What are your figures?

Some detail of Hungarian Girl.

[Want More]

Yeah was going through the East Indian fetish phase

I have been going through that phase for years now 😂 but just not found anyone. You have found the most elusice of SB three times. That's some great achievement.

[BoobyBooby5]

Three Indian chick's. Wow, that's really something. You are a dude!

Yeah was going through the East Indian fetish phase You are arguably the most experienced amongst us with SA. Care to share your allowance numbers, if you don't mind?

[Want More]

So, I've been exploring on SA for

2. Four hours dinner date followed by indoor meet with an east Indian leggy SB - 2 K.

3. Four hours indoor meet with an east Indian SB - 1.5 K.

4. Long term arrangement with an east Indian SB - 8 K for two months with one or two weekly meets.

?

Three Indian chick's. Wow, that's really something. You are a dude!