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01-16-22 00:06 #2969
Posts: 430Originally Posted by JustTK [View Original Post]
By now, entering year three, it should be obvious that if you aren't elderly, obese, have some sort of lung or blood condition and are unvaccinated then your chance of ending up in a hospital bed due to COVID is slightly greater than that of influenza. Slightly.
Is it serious? Yep.
Is it uniformly a disease that will send you to the hospital? Not even close.
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01-16-22 00:06 #2968
Posts: 3160Originally Posted by RamDavidson84 [View Original Post]
The agency people were nice and said they would have them that day. Hours are 10 to 3 PM but the staff stayed two hours late and got us our passports. I am not sure why it took so long, but I was grateful the staff stayed and got it done. Anyway, there were five of us in the room and we did something unusual. We put down our phones and talked.
There were two women, one Hispanic and one white who were both Republicans. Three men who were Republican leaning independents, two white and one black. What was interesting to me was these were can do people. They are all world travelers who knew it was rough getting a passport but were determined to get one.
The supreme court decision was reached that day and all of us were pleased. Everyone was vaccinated, but we all hated mandates. We thought ruining the economy for Covid was stupid. We were anti the deep state and concerned the Constitution was being over run. We all thought Biden was doing a horrible job. It was not a Republican love fest. The men made certain to proclaim their independence and lack of party.
I am a lot harder on the Dems here because they bring their toxic shit to this forum. I know the Republican retards are just as bad but they stay quiet, and I have voted Democrat before.
Anyway, there was no overt partisanship, and I felt after sharing with those people we all had a bond. It was wonderful to find four like minded people, and I will tell you this. I think the five of us, the can do people there, could have solved almost any problem the world threw at us. I really do. It is funny how that partisanship has gotten people so angry with each other they no longer trust one another but the truth is that if we get good people together like you say and unite, most of the world's problems would be solved.
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01-16-22 00:01 #2967
Posts: 430Originally Posted by JjBee62 [View Original Post]
Ebola has a 50% death rate on average and it has gotten as high as 90% dead in past outbreaks.
No sane person would choose Ebola or AIDS over COVID and I think you probably know that.
Regarding the ladies. I am not their dad. They are adults.
If I am stuck in Colombia but feeling fine and getting Messaged every 30 minutes I will definitely be honest about the situation but I WON'T parent the adult female. Her choice is her own.
If I start to feel sick (symptomatic) or if I already know she lives with a bunch of older relatives or ESPECIALLY if she is unvaccinated then that would be an automatic no.
But the fact is young folks who are vaccinated are NOT filling hospital wards anywhere.
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01-15-22 23:56 #2966
Posts: 5430Originally Posted by RamDavidson84 [View Original Post]
Now to address the rest of your post.
The White House is merely the Presidential residence. It's not a pharmaceutical production facility. The White House can't make more anti-virals and Covid treatments. That's like asking why Minnesota doesn't grow more oranges.
Do you mean why hasn't the Biden administration seized the means of production and forced the pharmaceutical companies to stop producing vaccines and focus on producing Covid treatments? I think the correct answer is free market capitalism. We could go the embrace communism route, but I'm guessing you would raise hell about that too.
Just a couple of statistics which are different from your 95% claim. They're different for 2 reasons. First they aren't numbers I just made up and they are much more accurate than your number.
I'm just going from the numbers popping up from a simple search.
In Canada, unvaccinated make up only 13% of the population. At Toronto General hospital 70% of the ICU patients are unvaccinated. 13% of the population accounts for 70% of ICU patients.
According to the Virginia Department of Health, every age group which is authorized for vaccination has a lower rate of hospitalization among the vaccinated. Based on age group the unvaccinated are between 2. 73 and 28.09 times more likely to be hospitalized.
According to the Wisconsin Department of Health Services, unvaccinated people are hospitalized 10 times more often than vaccinated people.
According to the Washington state Department of Health unvaccinated are between 8 and 11 times more likely to be hospitalized, depending on age group.
From the same search, unvaccinated are 3 times as likely to become infected when compared to the fully vaccinated.
Biden should focus on treatments? I'm guessing you have never had any involvement with any safety department, risk mitigation or similar. I'll make it simple. If every day you have employees getting cuts at work, do you focus on buying bandaids, or do you find out how they are getting cut and fix the problem?
Maybe this will help:
"An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. ".
It's much more effective, cheaper, easier on the patients and better for everyone to try to keep people from going into the hospital in the first place. I honestly don't understand how anyone could fail to recognize that.
The insane inflation is much lower than it was during a good part of the late 70's and early 80's. Do you remember how it was dealt with? Interest rates were hiked to between 10-20%. If the Fed suggests raising rates by 0. 5% the stock market plummets.
Do you know anything about the supply chain? 2 years ago I posted that the US supply chain was teetering and couldn't handle anything unexpected. Guess what happened? Now it's going to be a struggle to get things going again. First, we need drivers, but to get drivers pay needs to increase, which adds to inflation. Next, we need trucks. But we can't get trucks because we can't get the computer chips needed for the trucks. The shortage of trucks will likely cause an increase in the price of trucks, adding to inflation.
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01-15-22 20:32 #2965
Posts: 2777Originally Posted by RamDavidson84 [View Original Post]
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01-15-22 16:12 #2964
Posts: 1762Originally Posted by Lou32 [View Original Post]
If one wants to eliminate all possible risk to other people at all possible times, we should all stay home and watch internet porn. There is an element of risk in every action we take. We should all accept that as reality and stop pretending that there isn't.
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01-15-22 13:32 #2963
Posts: 430Originally Posted by GeneHickman [View Original Post]
Each test is only as good as the last time you were around another human being before the test. I can can test negative at 10:00 and get the virus at 11:00.
And the girls aren't super educated but they are adults so they do have the option to make their own choices and say no.
Thousands of guys are in Colombia right now passing on the virus.
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01-15-22 10:10 #2962
Posts: 1056The Wisdom of Crowds
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...NHS-staff.html
This medic went viral for coming out against the clot shot. Note the number they do on him. Note how the BBC Fact Checkers (sic) cherry pick. Note the fascism of the comments, fascism that is mirrored here. Note the top medics being government / Pharma parrots.
Whatever happened to the wisdom of crowds, of exploring and asking? One can't even play tennis unvaxxed now without being locked up for being a danger to civilization (as if Australia was civilised).
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ion-hotel.html Australian officials declare Novak a threat to public order who could spark 'civil unrest'.
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01-15-22 06:59 #2961
Posts: 3160Originally Posted by GeneHickman [View Original Post]
Originally Posted by GeneHickman [View Original Post]
Originally Posted by GeneHickman [View Original Post]
Maybe you should tell people that or maybe you should pull your head out of your ass and see that doctors who are actually advocating for treatment of Covid with anticoagulants are getting banned from Twitter and youtube.
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01-15-22 02:42 #2960
Posts: 385Biden Failure!
Why isn't White House making more anti-virals and covid treatments for infected patients? Instead they just pressure Supreme Court for worthless vaccine mandates. 95% of people who are at risk of being hospitalized from covid are fully vaccinated. Probably more than 95%. Vaccine doesn't prevent transmission, so why make it a mandate? It's just a cover for Biden's failure to control the virus like he promised. To be fair, there is probably no solution to the virus, it's a force of nature we can't control at this point or ever most likely. Biden should focus on treatments and fixing the insane inflation and horrific supply chain demands which are destroying the greatest economy to ever exist. Put the politics aside and do what is right for the people who are busting their ass to pay taxes to the government and get us out of this historic tragedy. People need to unite, forgive, and learn to cooperate again.
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01-15-22 02:40 #2959
Posts: 5430Originally Posted by Lou32 [View Original Post]
Ebola first. At least so far Ebola has been contained. Unless you're spending time in a few different African countries, it's not currently a concern.
AIDS is terrible (although at least one person here believes it's nothing at all). However, transmission of the virus is very difficult. You would have to be either sharing needles with the girls, or having bareback anal sex to have any real chance to transmit it to another person.
With Covid, you just need to breathe close to someone for a few seconds and there's a chance of infection.
There's a problem with letting others make informed decisions. Not everyone makes good decisions. If they did, none of the girls would already have kids before they reach 16. If everyone made good decisions there would be no arrests for drunk driving. The list of examples is endless.
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01-15-22 01:30 #2958
Posts: 407Originally Posted by Elvis2008 [View Original Post]
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01-15-22 01:28 #2957
Posts: 407Originally Posted by Lou32 [View Original Post]
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01-15-22 00:17 #2956
Posts: 1056We all
Have stuff to do, living being one of them. I went through (skimmed) all of your posts and you seem reasonably educated. However, there is such a thing as a readability test and your lectures come off as a bit on the dense side. I got myself a PDF of Kennedy's book on Fauci today and I also skimmed that, having first listened to the audio (which I also have), or at least to the first piece where he listed all his heavy hitting backers. An insider told me he has some real heavy hitters, household names. I am familiar with the Fog of War and Tolstoy's take on it in War and Peace.
I just dipped into Kennedy's stuff, on a chapter on AIDS and on another, later one. Kennedy paints Fauci out as a bad dude and I'd say he ain't wrong.
Long story short: Kennedy's is written in a glossy sheen kind of way, multiple hundreds of pages that should have been condensed and made more rigorous, at least for me, who is NOT the target audience. You, on the other hand, seem to be impressing the other way. The most I would take from here is some of the throw ways of Mr Entertainment and his type.
Bottom Line: Not only am not taking any jab but I am prepared to let every monger know, whether they wish me well or ill, that I shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of liberty and of my DNA.
I have come to this conclusion after careful and mature reflection. For me, the case is closed.
Until they bring in their carbon tax nonsense of course.
Originally Posted by Ptrbrgr [View Original Post]
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01-14-22 23:46 #2955
Posts: 3160Originally Posted by JjBee62 [View Original Post]
The Danish did a study and said cause of death was determined in 70% of cases by history. So JJ you allude to the fact that an autopsy would have shown stroke. It is not as yes or no as you think. If an autopsy was done, it probably would not have been definitive even if cause of death was stroke.
You guys keep quoting Villainy and I have to read his crap. He wrote, "I don't think a medical examiner is going to explore cause of death. " First off, most death certificates are not filled out by medical examiners. Second, the CDC wants doctors to list if someone is Covid + on the death certificate even if it is not related to his death.
The problem is, and what the CDC director is trying to say, is that there have not been two columns with Covid deaths: with Covid and from Covid. NOW she is trying to make a distinction.
Just like your stepfather manipulated things, the CDC is doing that too. To me, this is old news. The CDC has played with the numbers with opioid deaths and AIDS in the past, and they are doing it here. The interesting thing to me is why CDC head Walensky is making this distinction now.