Stupid shit in Medellin

[JustTK]

Just one simple question JustTK, how do you determine when a war is half way over while it is in progress?

You can't know. But that was not my claim. The USA refused to involve itself in a war to save the world ffom Jewish genocide and the rule of facism. It only felt compelled to join when a tinpot army decide to bomb a few of its ships in a harbour.

Do something against the USA. And you are going to pay! Commit genocide and try to instigate worldwide facism. Oh, no problem, just go ahead and don't worry about us!

[JustTK]

No government tells the truth about Covid. Statistics are meaningless. For example: Japan has like 225 cases today and No lockdown. DO you actually believe it? Statistics can be manipulated in a thousand ways.

Yes, correct. And some govts are worse than others, whether they do it deliberatly or not. But excess death stats are much harder to manipulate bcos death stats are generally not tightly controlled by central government. I wrote 1 week ago:

"South Korea. Has had 2. 700 excees deaths out of a population of 51 million, whiich is 53 deaths per million. ".

Even if one claimed the Korean govt was hiding deaths, it would need to be hiding deaths at a rate of 30 dead for every 1 declared. To be even average in terms of death per capita. I dunno about you, but I find that somewhat hard to believe.

[Villainy]

Actually it's thanks to Russia that Germany lost the war. But congrats on dropping the A-bomb on Japan after they had basically already surrendered. Really impressive. Not.

BTW, good work in Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan.

You know less of history than you do about CoVid. I wonder if anyone here is surprised by that?

Russia did well against Germany largely because the US provided massive support when they needed it most. But you have to give a major assist to Hitler who made a myriad of bone-head mistakes that cost dearly.

You also failed to mention or recognize that after the war the US sent billions of dollars in aid to rebuild the war torn countries of Europe. When in the history of the world has a victorious nation helped rebuild the countries that were allies as well as those that were conquered?? I think the world you'll search for is "never".

[PedroMorales]

The Yanks were "over paid, over sexed and over here". Everyone hated them, the Tommies who did the heavy fighting and the Ossies who beat them up in Sydney and Brisbane for sucking off their donkeys. The coward McArthur even tried to claim Australian victories as American, the PNG battle of the Kokoda Trail, the first land defeat of the Japanese, being a case in point.

The Americans used to loot the teeth of dead Japanese soldiers, real gutter scum. McArthur, surrender monkey in the Philippines where the Yanks continued to rape the children until their bases were closed.

The USA bankrupted the Brits, stole all their reserves and military secrets, raped their women and then set up Bretton Woods etc to rob and rape the world.

Stalingrad was 2nd rate soldiers; the cream had already perished by then. Kursk was but one of much bigger defeats.

Germany and the Axis lost 5.5 million soldiers dead, with some 4.5 million more captured on the Eastern Front.

As the American surrender monkeys lost a trifling 400,000, many of them non Americans and the Wehrmacht were great in defence, it is an insult to claim these American rapists were decisive.

As regards the Web, no one doubts the Americans are good at snooping (Peeping Tom pervs). American "dominance" in World War Two and after it was due to German physicists and rocket scientists, many of whom had served Hitler. Americans are good at thieving and eating hamburgers and little else. No one doubts that.

Go get a language of your own.

MIT (for ignorant like you that is the abbreviation of Massachusetts Institute of Technology).

An ignorant like me? LOL.

Every thing you said is either mistaken or a lie. You tell me which?

90% of the casualties weren't at the Eastern Front but it certainly was the highest percentage. Mostly because a complete German army was abandoned and not permitted to retreat during the battle of Stalingrad.

https://www.britannica.com/event/Battle-of-Stalingrad

If it had not been for the American supplies and equipment sent to Great Britain and Russia you wouldn't be able to manufacture your version of history.

Oh and BTW you are full of shit about who invented the internet as well.

[ShooBree]

How quaint. So you have rewritten history to diminish the role the US played. How sweet. I'm sure you are ignorant that even before the US was actively fighting the war in Europe. They sent vast amounts of supplies via convoys to both Great Britain and to Russia. The US supply ships probably saved Great Britain from having to raise the white flag. But of course, not knowing anything about WWII I'm sure you were unaware.

The genocide of the Jews was not well know until the camps were overrun at the end of the war.

It's OK. I understand you recreate whatever doesn't fit your own preconceived notions. This is evidenced by your complete ignorance of history and your laughable understanding of the efficacy of the vaccine against the CoVid virus. It must be nice to live in your little hovel of ignorance.

Actually it's thanks to Russia that Germany lost the war. But congrats on dropping the A-bomb on Japan after they had basically already surrendered. Really impressive. Not.

BTW, good work in Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan.

[ShooBree]

Clearly the only coward here is you, spending hours each day taking pot shots at Americans on a long established American owned website, and from the safety of your computer hiding out in Europe somewhere. The greatest contribution of the US in World War II involved production of war materials, producing more airplanes than all of the other major powers combined. And Stalin was propped up by our supplies, including 400,000 trucks and billions of dollars worth of airplanes. And such supply routes to the east were created by our fighting efforts in the Mediterranean, especially Africa and Italy along with the British. We were also instrumental in the liberation of France, the defeat of the Japanese in the South Pacific, and for bringing about a sure end with the invention of the atom bomb. To say we only showed up when it was over is asinine to the point where it could only come from a little vegan boy trolling day in and day out in a hooker forum, whining about how everyone is picking on him.

A lot of Euros love to run their mouths, until they need us, and they inevitably do. The two World Wars are just two of many examples, and of many more to come.

You are absolutely clueless, you're a brain dead moron hiding in a basement in a USA in crisis. No one is hiding, except from you. You must be seriously demented going on and on with insults making no sense whatsoever. Please explain in what way he is hiding and from who? We all know that you're hiding in your mothers basement because you are afraid of Covid-19, but you need to substantiate your claim that he is hiding.

The truth is simple USA needs Europe more than Europe needs them.

I'm still waiting for the USA to pay the EU the money they owe us for creating the chaos in the Middle East which caused millions of refugees to head for the EU.

And lets be real, the libtarded USAns on this site had nothing to do with the WW2 so pipe down. You should focus on your opioid and debt epidemic. Or failed aircraft company. Or why no one wants to import your shitty American cars.

Can some one please explain what the NL after internationalsexguide stands for? I've heard that it stands for the Netherlands, which is a European country. So I guess Europe saved USA again.

[Villainy]

You have watched too many Audie Murphy movies. Have you seen Colditz where US prisoners escape? In reality, none escaped. And Americans did no serious fighting in Europe. Bar the Ardennes where they were surrender monkeys and shot prisoners out of hand.

90% of German casualties were on the Eastern Front. The Yanks came in late, robbing and raping all round them. They even make movies boasting about their thieves.

Now off you go and polish up your brasses on the USS Harvey Milk.

This Brit invented the Internet. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Berners-Lee Americans do not invent. They just rob (from German physicists after WW2) and rape. Away and eat your Big Mac and Coke.

Every thing you said is either mistaken or a lie. You tell me which?

90% of the casualties weren't at the Eastern Front but it certainly was the highest percentage. Mostly because a complete German army was abandoned and not permitted to retreat during the battle of Stalingrad.

https://www.britannica.com/event/Battle-of-Stalingrad

If it had not been for the American supplies and equipment sent to Great Britain and Russia you wouldn't be able to manufacture your version of history.

Oh and BTW you are full of shit about who invented the internet as well.

https://www.history.com/news/who-invented-the-internet

The scientist you reference above, came along later and developed the WWW methodology. BTW he was working at MIT (for ignorant like you that is the abbreviation of Massachusetts Institute of Technology) when these new protocols were developed.

Here is a direct quote:

"While it's often confused with the internet itself, the web is actually just the most common means of accessing data online in the form of websites and hyperlinks."

[PVMonger]

Oh, he gets it, Shoobree. While Viliany is not trying to get laid solving calculus problems (one of these days it will work for sure), you have to understand that he and all the rest of these Democratic douches are not trying to be logical but working on their douche scores. The only way these guys can be so irrational is that they are getting paid for it and with these douches, the feeling not the reality but the feeling is that if they are good douches with high scores the government gravy train will not stop for them.

So how do you be a good douche? You just point and hate.

Trump: evil. Trump voters: more evil. And then you go down the list: Putin, Joe Rogin, Aaron Rogers, Dennis Prager, Sweden, those not vaccinated, and lately parents AKA domestic terrorists in Virginia (that one did not work out so well)..

Douche, douche, douche, douche, douche, douche, douche, douche, douche, douche.

That's the only thing you ever say.

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Everyone I know stopped using the word in the 6th grade when we found out where douches go. One day you'll know too.

[Villainy]

In the Second World War the USA was too cowardly to enter until it was half way over and until the Europeans (mostly Russians and Brits, but also plenty of rebels from defeated countries) had blunted Hitler. The prospect of genocide against the Jews was not enough of a provocation to enter the war for the USA. Oh no, no. They had to wait for a selfish reason to enter. The Japanese sank a few of the ships in Pearl Harbour. Ah diddums.

How cowardly to claim victory when you only turn up after the fighting is done. It reminds me of the Galdiator movie when Commodus turns up in Germania to claim the glory just as Maximus has finished the barbarians off. You guys and your warped versions of history make me laugh.

How quaint. So you have rewritten history to diminish the role the US played. How sweet. I'm sure you are ignorant that even before the US was actively fighting the war in Europe. They sent vast amounts of supplies via convoys to both Great Britain and to Russia. The US supply ships probably saved Great Britain from having to raise the white flag. But of course, not knowing anything about WWII I'm sure you were unaware.

The genocide of the Jews was not well know until the camps were overrun at the end of the war.

It's OK. I understand you recreate whatever doesn't fit your own preconceived notions. This is evidenced by your complete ignorance of history and your laughable understanding of the efficacy of the vaccine against the CoVid virus. It must be nice to live in your little hovel of ignorance.

[PedroMorales]

What a polite post. A better analogy might have been a vaccinated Mormon who hangs around with high risk folk. Most Westerners seem to be now vaccinated (sic) with one or other of the approved shots. Austria is insisting on 3 shots (to save their ski industry) and Israel is just a land of Guinea pigs anyway.

Americans and those they influence just want a comfort blanket. Take the clot shot and you will be fine until the next shot.

I got Covid and have a travel cert valid for three more months. I practice social distancing though some avoid / are wary of me lest I Typhoid Mary them.

I have hepatitis shots but I do not have flue shots as the latter is a virus that has been with us for centuries but largely vanished last year because of social distancing. Big Pharma rushed out their clot shots. They have a history of lying and price gouging. East Asians have the social discipline for social distancing and lockdowns. Americans and Brits do not. They prefer anarchy and comfort blankets.

Hi JustTK,
Your post on "vaccinated just as likely to spread virus as unvaccinated" is another example in my opinion, as it seems to escape you what conditional probabilities are. What is the chance a person from Utah you see is a Mormon? What is the chance a person from Utah you see is a Mormon, given he is lying drunk in the gutter? Totally different. .

[Paulie97]

Happy Veterans Day everyone.

[Paulie97]

How cowardly to claim victory when you only turn up after the fighting is done.

Clearly the only coward here is you, spending hours each day taking pot shots at Americans on a long established American owned website, and from the safety of your computer hiding out in Europe somewhere. The greatest contribution of the US in World War II involved production of war materials, producing more airplanes than all of the other major powers combined. And Stalin was propped up by our supplies, including 400,000 trucks and billions of dollars worth of airplanes. And such supply routes to the east were created by our fighting efforts in the Mediterranean, especially Africa and Italy along with the British. We were also instrumental in the liberation of France, the defeat of the Japanese in the South Pacific, and for bringing about a sure end with the invention of the atom bomb. To say we only showed up when it was over is asinine to the point where it could only come from a little vegan boy trolling day in and day out in a hooker forum, whining about how everyone is picking on him.

A lot of Euros love to run their mouths, until they need us, and they inevitably do. The two World Wars are just two of many examples, and of many more to come.

[Ptrbrgr]

Pound for pound a vegan diet results in just as much animal death as an omnivorous diet.

Veganism causes just as much suffering as raising animals for meat.

Hi JjBee62,

I started reading some of the posts on this board a few weeks ago, and you always struck me as a very level-headed guy. This post however was a bit of a head scratcher.

I am not a vegan, but I fully recognize how much damage to the planet and animal suffering is caused by the meat industry. With all due respect, your rationale and bean examples seem a bit underwhelming in light of the fact that less than 10% of all soy is used for human food products such as tofu and soy milk, and a large number of studies suggest that global land use could drop tremendously if everybody went vegan (for example https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.aaq0216). I recognize that I might be missing something, and I'd certainly be open to change my mind if you can corroborate your statements. I also recognize that this board is not about diet choices, but then, I didn't start it.

Ethical concerns aside, I disagree with most of JustTK's statements about vaccination, but that doesn't mean I have to disagree with him if he says the sky is blue.

[Fun Luvr]

In the Second World War the USA was too cowardly to enter until it was half way over ...

Just one simple question JustTK, how do you determine when a war is half way over while it is in progress?

[Ptrbrgr]

I saw a few days ago reports of a study published in Bloomberg, Fortune, BBC, Guardian (look them up on search "vaccinated just as likely to spread virus as unvaccinated" that verify that the vaxd are just as transmissable WRT the virus as the unvaxd. So the vaxd and the unvaxd are equally as likely to pass the virus on to any vulnerable / imuno-compromised person.

So now it is really indisputable that the unvaxd are only an increased danger to themselves. So there is no more excuse for the persecution of the unvaxd to continue.

Hi JustTK,

Apologies for not responding to you earlier, I have been very busy at work. I am also an ultra runner, so there are always days where I just run, eat, and sleep, and don't do anything else.

I did not know that your objection to the vaccine was primarily because of ethical reasons. I fully agree that lots of unsavory things happen at pharma, but it stands to reason how much blame can be put on them in this instance, since testing was required by law. Here is PETA's take on this:

"The goal of being vegan and advocating for animal rights should always be to bring about positive change for animals. As long as tests on animals are a legal requirement, refusing to take a medicine on ethical grounds will not help animals who have already been used in tests or spare any the same fate in the future. ".

https://www.peta.org.uk/blog/vegans-covid-19-vaccine/

So while there are differing opinions, I think no reasonable person would / should give you too much grief if you cite plausible ethical concerns for not getting vaccinated. Taking this into account, I would still argue you should get vaccinated in part because prolonging the pandemic invariably will result in more animal experiments being carried out, which is completely counter to what you want to achieve. Perfect can be the enemy of good.

That said, in many of your posts it seems you are grasping for straws, trying to come up with additional explanations why people shouldn't get vaccinated (and I suspect this is because you want this to be true). Unfortunately, this is where the wheels are coming off in your reasoning, as several people have pointed out. Your post on "vaccinated just as likely to spread virus as unvaccinated" is another example in my opinion, as it seems to escape you what conditional probabilities are. What is the chance a person from Utah you see is a Mormon? What is the chance a person from Utah you see is a Mormon, given he is lying drunk in the gutter? Totally different. The same thing in the paper you cite, which reports on transmissions in a household *given the vaccinated person had a breakthrough infection. It is not very surprising if you spend an extended period of time with an infectious person that you don't see a big difference in rates of transmissions comparing breakthrough and natural infections (even though by all accounts people with natural infections are infectious for a longer time). If you had read the manuscript, you probably would have noticed this sentence in the abstract:

"Vaccination reduces the risk of delta variant infection and accelerates viral clearance. Nonetheless, fully vaccinated individuals with breakthrough infections have peak viral load similar to unvaccinated cases and can efficiently transmit infection in household settings, including to fully vaccinated contacts."

Reducing this to "vaccinated just as likely to spread virus as unvaccinated" is absurd. I am going back to my first response to you: it is not helpful to "amplify stuff you read somewhere without understanding the meaning of it. Be better. And dare to think for yourself. " I fully respect your ethical concerns, but I don't think you are doing yourself a favor peddling some nonsensical soundbites.