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  1. #2170

    Unvaxxed travelers

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    https://aaronsiri.substack.com/p/cdc...s-of-naturally

    After formal demand, the CDC concedes it does not have proof of a single instance of a naturally immune individual spreading the virus.

    My firm, on behalf of ICAN, asked the CDC for precisely this proof (see below). ICAN wanted to see proof of any instance in which someone who previously had COVID-19 became reinfected with and transmitted the virus to someone else. The CDC's incredible response is that it does not have a single document reflecting that this has ever occurred. Not one.

    But it gets worse. The CDC's excuse for not having a shred of evidence of the naturally immune transmitting the virus is that "this information is not collected. " What?! No proof! But yet the CDC is actively crushing the rights of millions of naturally immune individuals in this country if they do not get the vaccine on the assumption they can transmit the virus. But despite clear proof the vaccinated spread the virus, the CDC lifts restrictions on the vaccinated?! That is dystopian.

    End of link.

    Well, now we know why the unvaxxed are so demonized even those with natural immunity. Clearly, the money made from said vaccines is filtering to the Democratic party. There is no other excuse. That is the reason the Dems are so vilifying those who are not vaxxed..
    I don't condone being unvaxxed but for all you guys who don't want to get vaxxed and then worry about having to have PCR test done right before your flights back to the US there is an easy loophole. All you have to do is fly into Mexico as opposed to the US. Mexico doesn't and never did require a negative PCR test at all and crossing the land border CBP doesn't require a PCR test either. Ideally if you lived in San Diego this would work much better for you, however the Tijuana airport now has the CBX cross border express for like the last 5 years which makes it so you can cross the border into San Diego without stepping foot outside the Tijuana airport. So if you are unvaxxed and don't want to take a PCR just book your flight to Tijuana, cross the land border, and uber / bus it to SAN airport and take your next flight to your home city. Kind of like a layover in TIJ / SAN with a short uber ride between the 2 Airports.

  2. #2169

    Touche

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    https://aaronsiri.substack.com/p/cdc...s-of-naturally

    After formal demand, the CDC concedes it does not have proof of a single instance of a naturally immune individual spreading the virus.

    My firm, on behalf of ICAN, asked the CDC for precisely this proof (see below). ICAN wanted to see proof of any instance in which someone who previously had COVID-19 became reinfected with and transmitted the virus to someone else. The CDC's incredible response is that it does not have a single document reflecting that this has ever occurred. Not one.

    But it gets worse. The CDC's excuse for not having a shred of evidence of the naturally immune transmitting the virus is that "this information is not collected. " What?! No proof! But yet the CDC is actively crushing the rights of millions of naturally immune individuals in this country if they do not get the vaccine on the assumption they can transmit the virus. But despite clear proof the vaccinated spread the virus, the CDC lifts restrictions on the vaccinated?! That is dystopian.
    https://amgreatness.com/2021/11/12/t...reading-covid/

  3. #2168

    Just when you think the government could not get any more stupid with Covid

    https://aaronsiri.substack.com/p/cdc...s-of-naturally

    After formal demand, the CDC concedes it does not have proof of a single instance of a naturally immune individual spreading the virus.

    My firm, on behalf of ICAN, asked the CDC for precisely this proof (see below). ICAN wanted to see proof of any instance in which someone who previously had COVID-19 became reinfected with and transmitted the virus to someone else. The CDC's incredible response is that it does not have a single document reflecting that this has ever occurred. Not one.

    But it gets worse. The CDC's excuse for not having a shred of evidence of the naturally immune transmitting the virus is that "this information is not collected. " What?! No proof! But yet the CDC is actively crushing the rights of millions of naturally immune individuals in this country if they do not get the vaccine on the assumption they can transmit the virus. But despite clear proof the vaccinated spread the virus, the CDC lifts restrictions on the vaccinated?! That is dystopian.

    End of link.

    Well, now we know why the unvaxxed are so demonized even those with natural immunity. Clearly, the money made from said vaccines is filtering to the Democratic party. There is no other excuse. That is the reason the Dems are so vilifying those who are not vaxxed.

    In the latest boneheaded rule, the CDC says you have to have your Covid test one day before returning to the USA if you are not vaccinated but you have three days if you are. Uh, why? Where is the science with this? Well, here is your answer: there is none. These are "scientists", government bureaucrats, literally making laws out of their ass that benefit them.

    It is the douches here who tried to rewrite history, but these Democratic douches wanted to line up behind that fucker Fauci and let him do whatever he wanted. Happy now guys? Hope you enjoy that nose swab and oh by the way all those people crossing the borders on foot in car, THEY do not have to be tested, but YOU on an airplane do.

    I would love some douche to defend the logic behind this. Yeah, let's make more stringent laws when Covid cases are plummeting. Jesus.

  4. #2167

  5. #2166
    Quote Originally Posted by MarquisdeSade1  [View Original Post]
    irony is lost
    Curious to know where you think the irony was in either my or Elvis' comments.

  6. #2165
    Quote Originally Posted by JjBee62  [View Original Post]
    I'm currently, much busier than any dead or completely disabled person should be. Sorry for the confusion, but I had some difficulty with your diagnosis. There was only 1 bit which I'm certain about.

    You're insane.

    When someone who isn't a doctor, who has demonstrated an abysmal level of knowledge, claims he's more qualified than 7 doctors he knows nothing about, that's insane.

    When someone (not a doctor, etc) claims to know more about the health of a person he's never met, than the person (or any of his doctors), that's insane.

    I could go on, but there's only 2 possible conclusions. Either you're insane, or you're trying to convince everyone you're insane.
    Well, there is another possibility, and that is you are insane, Professor Shit for Brains. You are the one whose brain allegedly froze up so badly that you could not speak.

    Hell, the only reason your sorry ass brought up your stroke like symptoms was to show me up, and that blew up in your face. And now you got nothing left but name calling and groveling. "I will let you look at my chart". Go fuck yourself.

    Assuming what you said is accurate, and we all know you are a fucking liar, you were in a hypercoaguable state and had symptoms of a clot at the artery where most strokes occur. Not that fucking hard. Like I said, your case bores me. The only thing interesting is if all your arms and legs were dysfunctional versus on one side, which would be new.

    That would means clots in both sides of the artery. And no, I do not want to know.

    A mini stroke is a warning sign, a preview of coming attractions, and you might not like this but clot formation or a plaque breaking off and occluding blood supply is more up to God than health care providers or you.

    I can get that you are scared that what happened to you might be permanent, and that is why you are so fucking rude and in denial, but this is not my first rodeo, and I do not want to deal with some asshole in denial. Your health is fine? Once again, go fuck yourself.

    The rate of stroke per year with someone in chronic A-fib is 6% per year. It goes down a little with treatment, but the treatment has side effects. You allegedly are not in A-fib all the time and that puts the rate lower, but it goes higher with RA, a previous ministroke, and probably with Covid. How high? No one knows, but with your work schedule and shitty attitude, that cliff I saw in you driving off of in the future is a helluva lot closer.

    But then again, what do I know? I am insane. Go talk to your genius doctors, Professor Shit for Brains. I am done discussing this.

  7. #2164
    Quote Originally Posted by JustTK  [View Original Post]
    Do you mean you bought a place and the repayments are 700 pm, or your renting? Is it in Bocagrande? I have been to CTG a few times, and didn't see any other barrio in which it looked good to live.
    Renting. The two best places are Manga and Bocagrande and we got in a place in Manga. We did see some nice modern complexes by the airport. My GF grew up there and in those neighborhoods she was concerned about being out at night. With Manga, her mother has lived there alone for a decade and not had any issues.

  8. #2163

    As my amigo Oscar used to say "irony is wasted on the stoopid"

    Quote Originally Posted by JustTK  [View Original Post]
    Hehe, yes I agree that "greatness" and "freedom" are meaningless words without context. In what sense are you greatest or free? As you highlight. But in whatever sense you are thinking, it does seem that the USA is becoming less "great" and less "free" with each passing puppet / idiot is in charge. Any rational person can see that the reigns of power have passed completely to the ruling elites. And unfortunately, its not only the USA people that must suffer. And this is why I speak about it.

    Where do you think to live?
    https://amgreatness.com/2021/11/12/the-royalist-left/

  9. #2162
    Quote Originally Posted by PedroMorales  [View Original Post]
    I see the media hacks are now blaming floods, mud slides and so on on global warming, not on the fact that Yankee McDonalds man has stripped land of trees and other natural impediments to erosion. Vegan ites are full of manure. The problem is the American one of over eating, over self indulgence.
    Anyone know where I could get a vegan cat or dog?
    USA remains a small portion of the world. They may consume more on average but the bigger problem is world population. Lots of small meals add up too.

    You can buy vegan cat food and vegan dog food. But best to convert them while they are young.

  10. #2161
    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    I just put a deposit down on a place in Cartagena. The apartment there, which is expensive actually for Colombia, is $700 per month,
    Do you mean you bought a place and the repayments are 700 pm, or your renting? Is it in Bocagrande? I have been to CTG a few times, and didn't see any other barrio in which it looked good to live.

  11. #2160
    Quote Originally Posted by Villainy  [View Original Post]
    I'm sure the US will be happy to square accounts with you Euro-cheats. When are you going to pay up the decades of arrearages in your balances for supporting NATO?

    As to your knowledge of WW2 history. You should be bending down kissing our feet and throwing in a few BJ's when asked. If it weren't for US support during and especially after the war, Europe would be a collection of 3rd world countries.
    Here you go showing your ignorance again, not all European countries are part of NATO and more importantly no one needs or have asked the US to have such a inflated and irresponsible military spending. You should be ashamed to even bring that up considering that US military spending is the root of so much misery in the Middle East as well as in Europe.

    The rest of the world would be so much better off if the US didn't even exist. You should apologize for even existing. Pay the money you owe for taking care of the mess you caused us in the Middle East and then go ahead and nuke yourselves.

  12. #2159
    Quote Originally Posted by JustTK  [View Original Post]
    Yes indeed, a baseless argument. One that has been thoroughly debunked countless times.

    "Let's use beans today. Now, in order to plant beans, I need a field. Which means, since fields aren't naturally occurring, whatever is growing and living on the land where I want to grow beans, needs to be destroyed, wiped out, obliterated. ".

    Well firstly, this is true of all food. As you say, most plant crops are fed to farm animals, so most land is cleared for animal farming, not for vegan human consumption. There would already be enough cleared land to feed the world several time over if everyone was vegan. To follow that line of thinking to its conclusion, one would need to argue for the end of all human civilisation in order to stop all farming, and very few advocate for that. Humans have a right to life, as much as other animals..
    It's fun watching you think yourself into a corner. Have you spotted the trap you built for yourself yet?

    "Humans have a right to life, as much as other animals."

    Do you see it yet? I'll add another piece of the puzzle.

    "I'm not anti-vax, I'm anti-vivisection."

    Perhaps you don't see it because you refuse to accept a few simple facts.

    1. Unvaccinated people are more likely to contract Covid.

    2. Unvaccinated people are more likely to infect others.

    3. Unvaccinated people are more likely to die from Covid.

    Even if you eliminate the first 2, which would demonstrate a lack of integrity, you're still left with an inescapable conclusion:

    It's better to kill humans than to kill animals to protect humans. Or humans have less right to life than animals.

    For the rest, you seem to not understand how farming works. That's not an insult, simply a natural consequence of not growing up on a farm.

    If vegans farmed using animal friendly techniques, we would all starve. I say that because it would require everything to be done by hand. Just turning the soil would require 1 person over a week per acre. You could speed that up using draft animals, but that's not particularly animal friendly. At a guess, 1 person could produce enough to feed 10&15 people, but that's 16 hours per day, nearly every day.

    Insects aren't the only pests to worry about. All types of small mammals have to be controlled. Look up "The great bunny bash of 1981" for just one example.

    You mentioned animal friendly transportation, can you describe that to me? I'm in transportation business and I can really benefit from this animal friendly transportation. In the past 20 months, I've had 3 trucks severely damaged by animals. That's from 4 deer and 1 wild turkey. There were 2 other deer casualties, but they caused minimal damage. There have been countless other casualties, but they're mostly unnoticeable.

    There's no way to avoid most collisions with animals. Everyone tries. If you eliminate hunting and other forms of population management, it gets worse. I was in Idaho in 1981 and driving down the highway looked like a jackrabbit invasion. You would see 10-20 every mile, either dead or crossing the road.

    I'm still waiting for someone to explain the solution for all the existing meat animals if everyone goes vegan. Your thoughts?

  13. #2158

    Global Warming

    Is this impacting the puta market?

    I see the media hacks are now blaming floods, mud slides and so on on global warming, not on the fact that Yankee McDonalds man has stripped land of trees and other natural impediments to erosion. Vegan ites are full of manure. The problem is the American one of over eating, over self indulgence. This Americanism is a cancer that spreads, much like their waist lines. Plenty of fat Europeans now. Not as be ad as US Blubber land but getting there. Ad as for African / black women. So unhealthy carrying around all that jelly.

    I will give it to Africans, not the tubbies. They sure can move. That is because they move their asses and eat whatever they can.

    Anyone know where I could get a vegan cat or dog?

  14. #2157
    Quote Originally Posted by JustTK  [View Original Post]
    Where do you think to live?
    I just put a deposit down on a place in Cartagena. I have been paying a lot to see my GF and either flying to Colombia to meet her or meet in Mexico, so we decided the time was right to settle on a place. The apartment there, which is expensive actually for Colombia, is $700 per month, but it is beautiful. We have a stunning 16th floor view of the harbor and now we get to pick out the furniture we like and make it into a home. I hope to be there 7 to 10 days a month and slowly increase that amount over time.

    The other place I really liked and could see myself living is Argentina. A family member has brought property near Mendoza and the land out there is very rich, and you can live like a king for very little.

  15. #2156
    Quote Originally Posted by Ptrbrgr  [View Original Post]
    This post however was a bit of a head scratcher.
    I am not a vegan, but I fully recognize how much damage to the planet and animal suffering is caused by the meat industry. With all due respect, your rationale and bean examples seem a bit underwhelming in light of the fact...
    Yes indeed, a baseless argument. One that has been thoroughly debunked countless times.

    "Let's use beans today. Now, in order to plant beans, I need a field. Which means, since fields aren't naturally occurring, whatever is growing and living on the land where I want to grow beans, needs to be destroyed, wiped out, obliterated. ".

    Well firstly, this is true of all food. As you say, most plant crops are fed to farm animals, so most land is cleared for animal farming, not for vegan human consumption. There would already be enough cleared land to feed the world several time over if everyone was vegan. To follow that line of thinking to its conclusion, one would need to argue for the end of all human civilisation in order to stop all farming, and very few advocate for that. Humans have a right to life, as much as other animals.

    There are also some crop deaths – again mostly caused to feed farm animals. But vegans would try to minimize these deaths by implementing animal friendly harvesting and delivery techniques, whereas meat eaters would not give a sh*t. Using pesticides to kill 'pests" – again, not an argument against veganism. Farmers are not vegans – vegans would farm using animal friendly techniques.

    So to summarise – whatever animal deaths there are in bringing vegan food to the human dinner table – you can multiply it several fold for the meat-eater. Then add on the deliberate cow / pig / chicken / fish deaths. Deaths in vegan food delivery would be accidental in a vegan world, whereas deliberate or uncaring in a carnist world.

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