Stupid shit in Medellin

[JustTK]

You know I have to agree with Elvis on this one. Just look at countries like Cuba and Venezuela and you will see there is a vast difference between the have and have nots with virtually no middle class.
I asked how could it be that I saw an newer looking audi A4 with Venezuela plates with the situation the way it is in Venezuela and she told me that it was government workers / families of government who have cars like that.

Its hardly fair to compare successful western countries with countries that have been sanctioned to hell and back. Its like tying the hands of a boxer behind his back and then wondering whay he didn't put up much of a fight. Why not compare like with like? USA to Sweden, or Cuba to Congo?

And its great to hear that you base your beliefs on random anecdotes of people you meet in Cucuta. Hehe.

[JustTK]

LOL. The USA has never defaulted on its debt. Venezuela has done so close to ten times. The reason the world puts up with all that political BS is even with that their money is safer in the USA and in USA dollars than anywhere else.

You are using selective reasoning. There are many ways to steal. USA stole USD funds of Russia and Venezuela recently. It weaponises the dollar. That is theft. On a much grander scale than Vnzla. US dollars are not safe. Most countries are now looking to hold their funds in other currencies. Why do you think so many countries are keen to join BRICS?

[Gabacho]

Yes, capitalistic nations are uneven. Your neighbor may have two cars while you only have one. In the socialist utopias, everyone outside of the pols has an equal number, none.

You know I have to agree with Elvis on this one. Just look at countries like Cuba and Venezuela and you will see there is a vast difference between the have and have nots with virtually no middle class.

When I was in cucuta I was Audi A4's with tinted windows with Venezuela plates and at the same time there were vennies on la septima fucking me for 25 mil and I asked how could it be that I saw an newer looking audi A4 with Venezuela plates with the situation the way it is in Venezuela and she told me that it was government workers / families of government who have cars like that.

Atleast in the capitalist countries you have more of a Middle class and there are more people who can own a car and not just government workers.

[Woodman09]

Thanks Gabacho. So the law says he can stand again. He is following the law. He didn't even change the law himself. You might not like that law, but then its not your law. Creating obstacles to prevent competitors getting power. Just take a look in your own backyard, at the USA. Look at all the money, all the corruption, the murders, the silencing / deplatforming / defunding, of anyone that stands in the way, that wants to change the status quo. It has got so ridiculous and pitiful that the next election is a re-run between 2 of the least fittest people in the entire country to run it again. But people still tend to look at other countries and pretend its those countries that are the bad eggs. But anyway, we have veered off topic. Its USA and USA-led Western interference that brings about waves of refugees.

My point here is not so much to defend the actions of the Vnzla Govt, but rather to highlight that you are holding it to double standards.

The Fake biden admin-- (Not run by the Senile Traitor biden) does whatyever the CIA says-- It's a Clown World-.

[SubCmdr]

USA does not default. It makes the money printer go burr and inflates their way out of trouble. Inflation is theft. The greatest heist in the history of mankind.

LOL. The USA has never defaulted on its debt. Venezuela has done so close to ten times. The reason the world puts up with all that political BS is even with that their money is safer in the USA and in USA dollars than anywhere else.

Venzla are thieves? Oh you mean like the USA? The USA that steals and freezes the US dollar based assets and investments and funds of entire nations if they do not do what the USA tells them to do. The USA that has now encouraged other countries to start trading in oil in non-USD currencies bcos the USA are thieves and have started the downfall of their own currency as the world currency. OK.

You are 100% on target. I am deep into some things. The technology for an alternative payment system to Swift has already been created. Will the BRICS nations be able to come together to use it effectively? That is an open question.

Keep it in the front of your mind: an alternative payment system to Swift is already technologically possible and being tested.. It might pay to diversify. All eggs in one basket because you are patriotic or have hopium is not an effective investment strategy. If you didn't know, now you know.

[Elvis 2008]

Right. Saudi Arabia was stolen by the rich from its people. The sheikhs own everything and run the country with an iron fist. They allow large USA oil companies in the share the opportunity. Yes, I agree. That is the difference.

Yes, capitalistic nations are uneven. Your neighbor may have two cars while you only have one. In the socialist utopias, everyone outside of the pols has an equal number, none.

[Elvis 2008]

Venzla are thieves? Oh you mean like the USA? The USA that steals and freezes the US dollar based assets and investments and funds of entire nations if they do not do what the USA tells them to do.

LOL. The USA has never defaulted on its debt. Venezuela has done so close to ten times. The reason the world puts up with all that political BS is even with that their money is safer in the USA and in USA dollars than anywhere else.

[JustTK]

So why is Venezuela so poor and Saudi Arabia so rich? The one word answer is theft.

Right. Saudi Arabia was stolen by the rich from its people. The sheikhs own everything and run the country with an iron fist. They allow large USA oil companies in the share the opportunity. Yes, I agree. That is the difference.

[JustTK]

China and Europe need the oil. They have oil companies. They have bond markets. Let them deal with Venezuela and their thieving ways.

Venzla are thieves? Oh you mean like the USA? The USA that steals and freezes the US dollar based assets and investments and funds of entire nations if they do not do what the USA tells them to do. The USA that has now encouraged other countries to start trading in oil in non-USD currencies bcos the USA are thieves and have started the downfall of their own currency as the world currency. OK.

[JustTK]

Sorry it was 2 terms not 1 term, but Chavez removed that in 1999. So basically if that had not been removed then maduro shouldn't be running again because he has already served 2 terms.

Also he has a habit of wrongfully detaining the people running against him. There was some woman who was trying to run for president and he arrested her on some fake charges so she couldn't run. So yea I guess that is deemed fair.

Thanks Gabacho. So the law says he can stand again. He is following the law. He didn't even change the law himself. You might not like that law, but then its not your law. Creating obstacles to prevent competitors getting power. Just take a look in your own backyard, at the USA. Look at all the money, all the corruption, the murders, the silencing / deplatforming / defunding, of anyone that stands in the way, that wants to change the status quo. It has got so ridiculous and pitiful that the next election is a re-run between 2 of the least fittest people in the entire country to run it again. But people still tend to look at other countries and pretend its those countries that are the bad eggs. But anyway, we have veered off topic. Its USA and USA-led Western interference that brings about waves of refugees.

My point here is not so much to defend the actions of the Vnzla Govt, but rather to highlight that you are holding it to double standards.

[JustTK]

He's more or less correct. ..The history of South and Central America is filled with examples of US attempts to control countries, with everything from economic sanctions, to weapons supplies, to assassination.
The US was running things in Venezuela until Chavez came along. The US was running things in Iran until the student revolution. Add in the wars we've funded and we've long been creating waves of refugees.
But we refuse to accept responsibility for them.

Thank you.

[Nounce]

It caused alot of vennies to come to Colombia and fuck us for 40 mil a pop.

Yeah, if you are interested in that perspective. You can study Iran's history. It fits into what he said. There is even a PBS documentary about it.

[Gabacho]

While it does not seem to be working but it caused a lot of damages, and other consequence.

It caused alot of vennies to come to Colombia and fuck us for 40 mil a pop.

[Gabacho]

Sorry it was 2 terms not 1 term, but Chavez removed that in 1999. So basically if that had not been removed then maduro shouldn't be running again because he has already served 2 terms.

Also he has a habit of wrongfully detaining the people running against him. There was some woman who was trying to run for president and he arrested her on some fake charges so she couldn't run. So yea I guess that is deemed fair.

I meant 2009*.

[Nounce]

It doesn't seem to be working.

While it does not seem to be working but it caused a lot of damages, and other consequence.