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Originally Posted by Villainy
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129 K deaths from CoVid in a population of 52 M is only 0. 25%. Just to be accurate, but all your points are exactly right. Colombians believe the science and are getting vaccinated at a very high rate, higher than many European countries. As of December 1st, 48.9% have have been fully vaccinated and 74.5% have had at least 1 vaccination.
So just like Maelstrom said. If you are an anti-vaxxer stay out of Colombia.
Deaths per one million population per worldometer is 2491 in Colombia, 2422 in USA, and 1486 in Sweden.
Not sure what being an antivaxxer has to do with anything, but those numbers show it really was stupid for the government to have shut down and banned international travel for as long as they did.
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Originally Posted by TnJed
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I try to stay out of arguments on this board because there's already too much acrimony in the world and this space is about our mongering hobby. But in this instance I'll jump in here for a sec. It's apparent you may only get your information from Fox News or worse, Newsmax. No Covid vaccine is 100% effective and they have never been advertised as such. What they all do effectively is drastically reduce the possibility of serious illness and death. You can be fully vaxxed with a booster and still become a breakthrough case. But feeling no symptoms, you can infect others, including kids under 5 who can't get the shot. By the way, South Africa is experiencing a unsettling uptick in cases of kids under 5 with the Omicron variant.
In regards to your right wing talking point about illegals spreading the virus, there are zero evidence that is happening. The only evidence that can truly be relied on is that this virus is still raging because there large numbers of people across the globe not vaccinated. The Southern Hemisphere needs to vaccinate 3 billion people still. Here at home there are still 40%+ of Americans that refuse to roll their sleeves up and do what's right.
Great post in all ways.
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Originally Posted by MrEnternational
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Fact: he did not say anything about USA! Why did you quote him and go on a rant saying what Americans do not owe anyone?
Haha, you beat me to it!! I too was wondering why he got his knickers in a twist about the USA there.
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Originally Posted by RamDavidson84
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That is the dumbest thing I have ever read. Like seriously, I have never read a more idiotic comment ever.
Fact- It is absolutely no ones fault in the USA that people from other countries are in poverty. The people of the USA owe nothing to anyone else on this planet. People in poverty from other nations by the millions, are illegally crossing into the USA and spreading a deadly virus.
Opinion- For a very long time, nations went to war for far less.
Hi Ram. Apologies, but you have lost me there bud. I don't see the relevance of what you wrote has to demonstrate that what I wrote is dumb. I assume that was what you were trying to do? (I don't agree with what you wrote, but that is beside the point).
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Originally Posted by RamDavidson84
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Fact- It is absolutely no ones fault in the USA that people from other countries are in poverty. The people of the USA owe nothing to anyone else on this planet.
Fact: he did not say anything about USA! Why did you quote him and go on a rant saying what Americans do not owe anyone?
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Originally Posted by TnJed
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I try to stay out of arguments on this board because there's already too much acrimony in the world and this space is about our mongering hobby. But in this instance I'll jump in here for a sec. It's apparent you may only get your information from Fox News or worse, Newsmax.
And you are trying to lessen the acrimony with that statement? LOL.
Originally Posted by TnJed
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No Covid vaccine is 100% effective and they have never been advertised as such.
No, you Democratic douche, they were advertised as being 95% effective in preventing the spread of Covid and turned out to be 0% effective. So now you try to apologize for Fauci, the drug companies, and Brandon with this bullshit line about "no Covid vaccine is 100% effective". Do you understand the difference between 95 and 0 douche?
Originally Posted by TnJed
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What they all do effectively is drastically reduce the possibility of serious illness and death.
So that 95% reduction is thrown out, and the powers that be came up with that new benefit, and you just went along with it.
With death, you can throw those numbers out the fucking window. When the Italians got rid of comorbidities, they reduced the number of Covid deaths by 97%. Deaths can easily be manipulated by government to get the figures it wants.
Hospitalization cannot be as easily manipulated, and the numbers there are not what the government says. Different countries have different thresholds for admission but in Israel the unvaccinated had double the rate of hospitalization.
Okay, douche, here is your homework. What is the rate of hospitalization with Covid and the rate of side effects with the vaccines?
You see, I know three people who have had debilitating tinnitus after getting the vaccine so help me out.
Originally Posted by TnJed
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Here at home there are still 40%+ of Americans that refuse to roll their sleeves up and do what's right.
Right huh? Are you going to do what is right and man up and pay $10,000 to anyone who follows your advice and has a side effect to the vaccine? NO then STFU Douche. No one wants to hear from someone who is a government dick sucking mouth piece.
Drug companies and government douches have immunity from lawsuits. If their advice was so fucking great, why do they need said immunity?
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Is that right?
Originally Posted by RamDavidson84
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That is the dumbest thing I have ever read. Like seriously, I have never read a more idiotic comment ever.
Well, keep reading this thread.
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Originally Posted by JustTK
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Then surely that begs the question. Why do we live in a world with 2 or 3 tier status. Where only people from tier 1 and 2 tier 2 can access a vax, whereas tier 3 must suffer what they must bcos the rich want to profit from property rights. Yet these policies come right back to bite tier 1 and 2 in the arse bcos these same less valuable people spread the virus back in ever more deadly forms.
If you think a little deeper, you can actually see this as a metaphor for poverty in general. Explot people and deny them freedom and opportunity, and they will come back and bite you in the arse. I just hope its a big and painful bite.
That is the dumbest thing I have ever read. Like seriously, I have never read a more idiotic comment ever. I don't want to start a fight TK, I am sure your a good guy at heart. I just can't understand how that could even be a logical thought in another persons mind.
Fact- It is absolutely no ones fault in the USA that people from other countries are in poverty. The people of the USA owe nothing to anyone else on this planet. People in poverty from other nations by the millions, are illegally crossing into the USA and spreading a deadly virus.
Opinion- For a very long time, nations went to war for far less.
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Originally Posted by Maelstrom
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LOL what? First of all you got it backwards. Boomers. Right wing are the anti vaxxers.
Its been killing Colombians 129 k fatalities so far. 2. 5% may be insignificant to you but its still killing their elderly.
Lastly, stay out of Colombia if you you're an anti vaxer covidiot.
129 K deaths from CoVid in a population of 52 M is only 0. 25%. Just to be accurate, but all your points are exactly right. Colombians believe the science and are getting vaccinated at a very high rate, higher than many European countries. As of December 1st, 48.9% have have been fully vaccinated and 74.5% have had at least 1 vaccination.
So just like Maelstrom said. If you are an anti-vaxxer stay out of Colombia.
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You're entitled to your own opinions but not your own facts.
Originally Posted by LatinaLover#1
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I have 2 shots and a booster AND I still need a one day test to enter my country. So it's obvious Dumb and Dumb'er, (Brandon & Fauci) NEVER EVER believed in the Vaccine or they would not require fully vaccinated people to get this 24 hour test. It's not the few hundred people on a plane from Colombia, that's the problem, it's the half a MILLION people walking across the border, unvaxed, untested dispersed through the country, that is spreading the virus.
I try to stay out of arguments on this board because there's already too much acrimony in the world and this space is about our mongering hobby. But in this instance I'll jump in here for a sec. It's apparent you may only get your information from Fox News or worse, Newsmax. No Covid vaccine is 100% effective and they have never been advertised as such. What they all do effectively is drastically reduce the possibility of serious illness and death. You can be fully vaxxed with a booster and still become a breakthrough case. But feeling no symptoms, you can infect others, including kids under 5 who can't get the shot. By the way, South Africa is experiencing a unsettling uptick in cases of kids under 5 with the Omicron variant.
In regards to your right wing talking point about illegals spreading the virus, there are zero evidence that is happening. The only evidence that can truly be relied on is that this virus is still raging because there large numbers of people across the globe not vaccinated. The Southern Hemisphere needs to vaccinate 3 billion people still. Here at home there are still 40%+ of Americans that refuse to roll their sleeves up and do what's right.
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Originally Posted by LatinaLover#1
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it's the half a MILLION people walking across the border, unvaxed, untested dispersed through the country, that is spreading the virus.
Then surely that begs the question. Why do we live in a world with 2 or 3 tier status. Where only people from tier 1 and 2 tier 2 can access a vax, whereas tier 3 must suffer what they must bcos the rich want to profit from property rights. Yet these policies come right back to bite tier 1 and 2 in the arse bcos these same less valuable people spread the virus back in ever more deadly forms.
If you think a little deeper, you can actually see this as a metaphor for poverty in general. Explot people and deny them freedom and opportunity, and they will come back and bite you in the arse. I just hope its a big and painful bite.
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Well
Originally Posted by TheCane
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You have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year! And don't get caught using your fake vaccination card. That might result in you getting banned from going to one or more of your favorite mongering destinations around the world.
https://www.newsmax.com/newsmax-tv/j...03/id/1047270/
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Originally Posted by Maelstrom
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LOL what? First of all you got it backwards. Boomers. Right wing are the anti vaxxers.
Its been killing Colombians 129 k fatalities so far. 2. 5% may be insignificant to you but its still killing their elderly.
Lastly, stay out of Colombia if you you're an anti vaxer covidiot.
I have 2 shots and a booster AND I still need a one day test to enter my country. So it's obvious Dumb and Dumb'er, (Brandon & Fauci) NEVER EVER believed in the Vaccine or they would not require fully vaccinated people to get this 24 hour test. It's not the few hundred people on a plane from Colombia, that's the problem, it's the half a MILLION people walking across the border, unvaxed, untested dispersed through the country, that is spreading the virus.
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Originally Posted by VasyaPetya
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Uhh no it couldn't kill anyone. Is everyone on this board is retarded boomer?
LOL what? First of all you got it backwards. Boomers. Right wing are the anti vaxxers.
Its been killing Colombians 129 k fatalities so far. 2. 5% may be insignificant to you but its still killing their elderly.
Lastly, stay out of Colombia if you you're an anti vaxer covidiot.
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Originally Posted by Paulie97
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I didn't say that at all. LOL It's to the point where ISG needs to market a reading comprehension course, to benefit the forum and as an extra source of income.
Maybe you should volunteer to do it, since you have all this time to analyze and critique reports.
Originally Posted by Paulie97
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Who knows. At this point you can claim anything you want.
LOL, all I was doing was reporting my point of view based on my experiences.
Originally Posted by Paulie97
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And how long were you there? Ten minutes? That's hardly enough time to get a read on the comings and goings of the place. Plus this tells you nothing about who may be there but busy in the rooms.
'Ten minutes?'More like 30 or 45 minutes. Or should I say 'I didn't say that at all'. Over the dozen times I've been there over a period of 10 years I personally never seen anybody else there and there was always at least 5 girls. I think that's pretty good estimation based on the amount of times and time span.
Originally Posted by Paulie97
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You are announcing their demise. That was my point.
Well many of them have. Dulce on Carrera 45 #57-55 is the last one standing on that street, but I hope Aiffe stays around and many others start up or come back. I think I made my point.
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