Stupid shit in Medellin

[Mr Enternational]

The reason why polio was eradicated in Colombia (and almost entirely eradicated worldwide) was because of mandatory vaccinations.

Yes for a vaccine 20 years in the making and 2 years in the testing, not 2 months in the making and 8 hours in the testing. The Pfizer big wig admitted they did not even test that shit for stuff governments claimed it would do before putting it out.

[Elvis 2008]

To be abundantly clear for those with poor reading skills, the difference between not using condoms and not getting vaccinated is that the latter can affect innocent bystanders while the former cannot. It's a pretty important distinction and the two require vastly different public health policies.

Did you work in public health like your fellow Democratic douche John Clayton claims to have?

This is the headline from Zero Hedge today: Biden Admin Goes Full Orwell Denying Vaxx Mandates Ever Happened.

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/...-mandates-ever

Biden's head of OSHA, Douglas Parker, is also now lying through his teeth about the OSHA mandate that REQUIRED (not suggested) that all employers in the entire nation with 100 or more employees force their employees to get the C19 shot, otherwise they had to wear a mask and test constantly for C19. (That OSHA mandate was struck down by SCOTUS last year because it was unconstitutional, by the way). Then there's the head of HHS, Xavier Becerra, saying there was never a mask mandate. What?! Another blatant lie.

You never answered this directly so let me ask it. Do you have any regrets with how you responded to the Covid hysteria? If you don't, you are a fool. If you do, then why in the hell are you listening to public health officials now?

Gabacho is right with what he said. It is not just complete. Azithromycin does work well against the four STIs he mentioned with a proven track record. The same goes with other antibiotics and antivirals for STIs, and he mentioned Gardasil, a vaccine, for HPV, and there is a vaccine for Hepatitis be, a STI as well. Hepatitis be vaccines are mandated, so I don't know WTF you are talking about with regards to this big difference between condoms and vaccines. They are both sold as protection against STIs.

The Democratic douche John Clayton is against antibiotic and antiviral use because they are in his words "a precious resource". The belief is that if you overuse antibiotics and antivirals there will be resistance and they will no longer work. That may sound reasonable to you, but what we leaned with Covid is when the government is giving it to you up the posterior, you say, "Thank you sir, may I have another?

JC and the public health officials make no sense when antibiotics and antivirals are available all over the world over the counter. Hell, we even have farmers overusing them on cattle. So public health officials restricting antibiotics for STI prevention is like banning camp fires to prevent greenhouse gas production while ignoring the hundred new coal plants China is building. Resistant bacteria and greenhouse gases do jump over country borders.

Part of the reason that ivermectin and hydroxycholoroquine were so demonized is that if there was an effective Covid treatment, the experimental vaccines legally could not be approved, and some public officials made out like bandits when the vaccine was approved and that fucker Fauci refused to release the name of said officials who did profit.

So I have no clue why public health officials are recommending condoms for STI prevention when they know other methods work better. Maybe they believe their own bullshit or maybe they are profiting from their lying somehow.

But yeah, Gabacho knows 100 X more about this than you do. What is worse is when you see these public health officials lie their asses off to Congress like they are doing with Covid, their target audience is someone like you.

[MongerHunger]

Its funny you brought up polio and beggers with deformed limbs because on La Playa (calle 52) between the coltejer tower and parque Berro metro station there's always this begger dude sitting on the sidewalk with a fucked up swollen leg that looks like he probably has trouble walking. He always asks me for una ayuda or una moneda, now I almost feel bad that I always tell him to fuck off

Gabacho.

This speaks volumes about your character. No cap, just an observation.

[Elvis 2008]

Or maybe if a woman really cared about you then she would not care what you did, as long as you came back to her.

Why would a woman put up with your shit behavior? There is something wrong with her if she does.

Why do you keep insisting that since one loves eating steak, they should not want to eat pizza ever again? Or because they have a favorite band, they should never want to listen to other bands?

I am not insisting anyone do anything except use the right words. You and JjBee keep calling your women GFs to boost your status and ego when you are out fucking hookers left and right. You are lying to everyone here, the women, and yourselves. Quit using the term GF. There are dozens of other terms to use. You two do not have GFs.

[Gabacho]

Although I'm not advocating anything regarding vaccines or condoms, its not the same thing. If you look around in Medellin you'll see an excellent example that illustrates the difference.

Look for the beggars with twisted, deformed or shriveled limbs. They contracted polio as children. The last case of polio in Colombia was in 1991 (although there have been 2 cases from vaccines since then, both were immuno-compromised). The reason why polio was eradicated in Colombia (and almost entirely eradicated worldwide) was because of mandatory vaccinations.

Had the world decided to treat it as "your body, your choice", thousands of children would still be crippled by the disease every year, and many would die.

Fair enough, fair enough, unlike Señor Huacho, your response actually provides real world examples and a certain level of intelligence. Perhaps vaccine mandates were not the best analogy to condom usage, but in regards to condoms I still say it's your body your choice, of course this applies to both parties making the decision not to use the condoms, you always must have consent from both sides, or else it would be rape like how you had to explain to Miamiboy1.

Its funny you brought up polio and beggers with deformed limbs because on La Playa (calle 52) between the coltejer tower and parque Berrío metro station there's always this begger dude sitting on the sidewalk with a fucked up swollen leg that looks like he probably has trouble walking. He always asks me for una ayuda or una moneda, now I almost feel bad that I always tell him to fuck off (not in those exact words). Maybe next time I'm on my way to the chicken place I may very well give him some of my loose change.

Gabacho.

[Mr Enternational]

Which is it? Is meeting in person "going on a date", or "getting introduced by someone?" Those are vastly different things.

I think it is like the non-pro, semi-pro, pro thing. I say if someone is taking money for fucking they are a pro, while if they are not taking money for fucking then they are not a prostitute. Other guys say that someone that only fucks for money every third day is not a prostitute, but a semi-prostitute.

Maybe the same thing holds for strangers. There could be considered non-strangers, semi-strangers, and total strangers.

[Mr Enternational]

The girl removing all her clothes and telling me repeatedly that she wanted to fuck me, seems like a simple "yes. " However, she was obviously drunk. Her ability to consent was compromised.

I am glad you brought that up. So if the girl was drunk and could not give consent, what if you were drunk too? Shouldn't that also relieve you of your ability to give consent? Seems you two are on even ground. So if two drunk people decide to do something and one later regrets it, how is it that in general it is the man that bears the burden of receiving the consent? Why are men seen as the ones that are supposed to be the responsible party while women are seen as the helpless party?

[Mr Enternational]

Truth is if if these women really cared about you they would not want you seeing other women. When a woman says she does not care if you are fucking other women, it means she does not care about you.

Or maybe if a woman really cared about you then she would not care what you did, as long as you came back to her.

And if you are fucking multiple women, it just means that you have not found one good or trust worthy enough to commit to.

Why do you keep insisting that since one loves eating steak, they should not want to eat pizza ever again? Or because they have a favorite band, they should never want to listen to other bands?

[JjBee62]

This would be easier if you understood how paragraphs work.

How can you be so stupid? LOL. I said if she never met him in person or never heard of him. Do you consider riding a train full of strangers "meeting them in person?" Do you consider passing strangers on the street "meeting them in person"?

"Or never heard of him. " That's the part which makes passing someone on the street relevant. How can just hearing about someone change their status from "stranger" to "someone you've met?

Meeting in person, in the dating / mongering context, is going on a date with a purpose to get to know each other, spend some time together, have fun, and maybe have consensual sex after. Or getting introduced to someone by mutual friends or family, for example at a birthday party. Once they are introduced, they are no longer strangers. Once they meet for a date, even if it is just a simple coffee, they are no longer strangers. How long it will take to get laid depends on the chemistry and / or the agreed upon amount of money (sex has to be consensual, dumbass, p4 p or not). There is plenty of girls who would fuck on the first date without pay. There is no rule or law anywhere in the world that says sex has to happen no sooner than X days from initial meetup. You never fucked a girl in the club without even asking her name? Poor you.

Which is it? Is meeting in person "going on a date", or "getting introduced by someone?" Those are vastly different things. People meeting for a date are quite often strangers. However, if they are going on a date, they are at least attempting to no longer be strangers. But Frank from Marketing saying "this is Vijay from Singapore" doesn't mean you now know Vijay, or have any intention to get to know him.

There are plenty of girls who will fuck on the first date without pay. Generally speaking, that only applies if both parties are nearly the same age. However, I've found that women 35-45 often will have sex with guys from much younger to much older.

And yes, idiot, nobody forces a girl to fuck a guy she doesn't like. You again brought this rape topic up, which has nothing to do with consensual sex between two adults. If it is rape, there is no consent.

You literally just disagreed with yourself and I'm the idiot? If it's rape, someone forced a girl to fuck a guy she doesn't like. How can you say nobody does it and then immediately follow by saying that people do it?

"Most women (who are not prostitutes) don't sleep with guys because they like or trust them. There is an age bracket between around 35-45 where it's more likely, but outside of that, if they aren't prostitutes, they want something more, some type of connection or relationship, or at least the belief that it's heading in that direction. " - WTF is this BS? By this logic, your GF is a prostitute. Some type of connection or relationship between you and her is your fantasy. Most likely, she is either after a green card, or paid trips to the US, or some other benefit that she gets or will get, by sucking your old dick.

You should avoid using words you don't understand, which would limit your functional vocabulary to about 12 words. Logic isn't one of them.

How do you figure that? In one post you're questioning how I can know anything about college girls, in the next you're claiming to know everything about the connection between 2 people, neither of which you've ever met.

Your lack of knowledge doesn't define reality. If she is after some benefit from being with me, like a green card, then by definition, and the requirements to get a green card through being with me, she sees it as a relationship.

Speaking of Seeking college girls, or Tinder girls, or any other girls online. It is a numbers game, you are competing with other dudes, and the allowance that I'm willing to give doesn't depend on college degree or some normal job she has. I'm willing to give only what I'm comfortable giving. If other dudes are willing to give more, the chances of scoring are not in my favor, unless I bring something else to the table, which is not easy to do online.

No. I'm not competing with other dudes. Although I loathe the term, competing with other dudes online by offering a girl more money is complete simp behavior. It's begging a woman to please notice you.

While I agree, it's unlikely you could ever bring anything else to the table, unless you land a job at Denny's, it's not at all difficult to do online. In fact, it's much easier to do online, even with prostitutes.

Does your GF know about the other 2 you are screwing? LOL. A business owner (apparently, not so successful businesswoman that had zero savings to go through the tough times and turned into a hooker once her business got shut down?) Special skill? Do you eat a pussy so well that nobody can resist?

Does my GF know about the other 2? No. Should she?

How many sole propieters do you know who can financially afford zero income for 6 months, followed by 6 months of minimal income? Even the most successful corporations couldn't survive that intact. It's fascinating that you believe any company could just shrug that off.

How could "eating pussy so well nobody can resist" be a special skill used to talk a girl into meeting? Once again we're entering terra incognita for you. Guys who are able to have conversations with women learn they are often disappointed in guys attempts at cunnilingus. Telling a strange woman you're great at eating pussy is unlikely to advance the conversation.

However, being able to hold a conversation, generate interest and anticipate responses is a useful skill.

[JjBee62]

Enlighten me, where in Medellin can I find and fuck sex slaves? La Isla? Lleras? New Life casa? Seeking or Facebook? Or where? Prostitution is legal in Colombia, slavery / human trafficking is not. It's not that it doesn't exist, but I bet 99.9% of us have never had sex with women held as sex slaves and never will. So cut this crap about rape and sex slaves.

You're the one who brought it up. Again:

Do you also realize that nobody forces a girl to fuck someone she doesn't like?

Guys often force a girl to fuck someone she doesn't like and that's either called rape, or sexual slavery.

Probably, 10-25% of us have had sex with women held as sex slaves, even in Medellin. I suspect I have, although it was in the US.

I know for a fact that I have had sex with a woman who was formerly held as a sex slave. At least as early as 6, her mother was letting guys molest her for cash. At age 12 she sold her to a couple who owned a brothel in Atlanta. At 16, when she was getting too old for their clientele, they sold her to a guy who then married her. His fetish wasn't kids, he just wanted a woman he could beat whenever the mood struck him. He put her in the hospital a few times. She got away from him briefly, which is when we met. Eventually he tracked her down. It didn't end well for her.

[JjBee62]

I expected to get another stupid reply from you, but today you exceeded my expectations and posted 3 of them! Wow!

Prostitution IS consensual, do you know why? Because the man or woman must consent to have sex with you. Any hooker is free to decline service at any point. Maybe she finds you dangerous, obnoxious, unclean, etc. She is not a sex slave, and the fact that you pay her or not, doesn't obligate her to have sex with you. She has the right to return you the money and not provide any service. If there is no consent, then the sexual act is considered rape.

Why did you bring up the Kennedy case? The dude was not found guilty. It is obvious that if a woman is intentionally being drugged, she can't give her consent, and therefore, fucking a drugged woman might be considered rape if charges are pressed. Why are we even discussing this? Do mongers travel to a foreign country, where sex is cheap, and drug and rape women? Seriously? Again, you argue just for the sake of arguing, bringing up some weird exceptions. "There are many levels of consent" - wtf are you talking about? If one is of legal age, and is mentally capable of giving consent, it is either yes or no. Simple as that. But you, dumbass, are so dumb to understand this simple concept.

You have a very "unique" skill. You can find a pile of shit literally everywhere, on a fucking pool table, dive right into it and drown. Hilarious! LOL.

It never ends. The complete lack of cognitive function you exhibit amazes me. The most amazing thing about it is, some employer is stupid enough to pay someone who can't follow a thought for more than 2 sentences.

You said:

Do you also realize that nobody forces a girl to fuck someone she doesn't like?

Nearly everything you are questioning follows from that obviously idiotic question (although it's technically a statement converted to a question).

However, let's deal with consensual sex versus prostitution first.

Many prostitutes are in fact sex slaves. They are forced into prostitution in many different ways. Quite often they have no choice in who they fuck. Others, although not forced into prostitution by another person, have no other option to survive. Their consent is forced by their financial situation and lack of options.

That leaves a relatively small group of prostitutes, who are not forced into prostitution, who choose prostitution as a career. They can freely choose their customers. Still it's not consensual sex. It's a business transaction. Laws around the world confirm that. Depending on the country it's either an illegal business transaction, a legal business transaction, or an unenforced, illegal business transaction.

She is not a sex slave, and the fact that you pay her or not, doesn't obligate her to have sex with you.

If you're in a country where prostitution is illegal, that's correct, because you can't compel someone to commit an illegal act through payment. However, if prostitution is legal, then payment for a service obligates the payee to perform the service. And just to be clear, if she returns the money:

1. You didn't pay her. There's no obligation to perform a paid service if no payment is received, or received payment is returned.

2. You're an idiot who still hasn't learned, payment for independent contractors is after completion of services.

Next up:

"Why are we discussing this?

Because some fucking idiot said:

Do you also realize that nobody forces a girl to fuck someone she doesn't like?

Did you forget already?

Yes. Some mongers do travel to foreign countries, where sex is cheap, to drug and rape women. Others fuck prostitutes and refuse to pay. Still others beat up prostitutes. Arrests happen and these things have been discussed here.

To be absolutely clear, fucking a drugged woman is rape. It's not "might be considered rape if charges are pressed. " If charges are brought, the person might be charged with and convicted for rape, but it would definitely be considered rape.

Consent is not as simple as a yes or no, although, with your simple mind it's obvious you can't grasp that. In most cases consent is implied, not expressed. The girl removing all her clothes and telling me repeatedly that she wanted to fuck me, seems like a simple "yes. " However, she was obviously drunk. Her ability to consent was compromised. Had I considered it a simple "yes", and her boyfriend had woken up and caught us, she could have cried "rape" and claimed I had taken advantage of her inebriated state (which is also why the Kennedy case was brought up).

Your closing paragraph is a gem. You realize that you just declared your post was "a pile of shit?" Finally, common ground.

[JjBee62]

Its the same shit you jack ass! Your body your choice! Now stop trying to have the last word, you're not impressing anyone with your stupidity.

Although I'm not advocating anything regarding vaccines or condoms, its not the same thing. If you look around in Medellin you'll see an excellent example that illustrates the difference.

Look for the beggars with twisted, deformed or shriveled limbs. They contracted polio as children. The last case of polio in Colombia was in 1991 (although there have been 2 cases from vaccines since then, both were immuno-compromised). The reason why polio was eradicated in Colombia (and almost entirely eradicated worldwide) was because of mandatory vaccinations.

Had the world decided to treat it as "your body, your choice", thousands of children would still be crippled by the disease every year, and many would die.

[MiamiBoy1]

Really? It is always consenual?

How do you know? So no people are forced into prostitution or held as sex slaves?

What is it considered if she does not return the money and does not provide any service?

I think his reasoning was in your quote that he posted.

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So is it that nobody can force a girl to fuck someone she does not like or is it obvious that sometimes women do not give consent but are fucked anyway?

Enlighten me, where in Medellin can I find and fuck sex slaves? La Isla? Lleras? New Life casa? Seeking or Facebook? Or where? Prostitution is legal in Colombia, slavery / human trafficking is not. It's not that it doesn't exist, but I bet 99.9% of us have never had sex with women held as sex slaves and never will. So cut this crap about rape and sex slaves.

[Elvis 2008]

SW's? Run through Facebook girls? There you go again. It's as if you're not only a complete idiot, but that you insist on declaring the fact every fucking time. The last time I did a SW was probably 1989. Haven't done a Facebook girl for 3 or 4 years. Why would I? I've got literally thousands of contacts now, but I don't even bother with most of them. The 3 that I do now are my GF, a college girl and a business owner. I did pay the business owner for sex the first time. Covid shutdown had wiped out that business. I've never paid the other 2 for sex, although, I've spent money on all 3.

The GF took persistence and patience, combined with a certain skill I have. The same skill was crucial to landing the college girl, who has a fetish which I'm able to help her with. The business owner likes me and trusts me. Just wrote about her several weeks ago. She's the one who wanted a 3 some with her best friend.

LOL. Apparently, we need to do a different cute-rich matrix for you where the whole graph is filled in because all the women want you. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pInk1rV2VEg.

I have spent money on them but have not paid them for sex? Say what?

Truth is if if these women really cared about you they would not want you seeing other women. When a woman says she does not care if you are fucking other women, it means she does not care about you.

And if you are fucking multiple women, it just means that you have not found one good or trust worthy enough to commit to.

Does your GF know about the other 2 you are screwing? LOL. A business owner (apparently, not so successful businesswoman that had zero savings to go through the tough times and turned into a hooker once her business got shut down?) Special skill? Do you eat a pussy so well that nobody can resist?

MB, if you look at the female version of the hot-crazy matrix, the cute-money matrix, what the guy is saying, and I agree with, is that women do not take men seriously, I. E. Are husband material, if they do not have money. If you are attractive and poor, the women will play with you (AKA the fun zone), but they won't take you seriously.

As far as what a hooker is versus a "regular" woman is not that she fucks for money. That is all women. The difference between a GF / wife and a hooker is there is a relationship beyond sex for money, and the GF / wife only has one man she is servicing. For me, a sugar baby is in the middle. There is a relationship beyond sex for money but sex for money is still there, and a sugar baby will not just fuck any guy for money. She only fucks guys she is comfortable with and trusts.

So JJBee has sugar babies and once again perverts the term to GF to please his ego and brag. This is like his "marriage" where he and his "wife" were both fucking everything that moved. He does not have a girl friend, and he did not have a wife. In both cases, he had sugar babies even if he had a marriage certificate.

My gal's daughter loves Korean shows, and in one sense, they are more wholesome but practical and honest in another. There was this old lady who said to a young man, "Oh, you have money now. You should get married. " I so prefer that to the bullshit Hollywood puts out. You want to get laid and have fun? Work on your looks. You want to get laid and have a serious relationship? Work on making money. That is why JJBee is such a POS liar. He thinks he is not paying for sex. Hollywood has told him that it is virtuous to not pay for sex.

What a girlie man like JJBee does not get is this a way for men to let go of their money and power. If you believe that bullshit about she likes me and not my money, you are giving away your power. It is totally cool if women take your money and do not put out. It is their right to consent or not. Well, if he likes her for her, and she quits putting out, JJBee the Girlie man should stick with his women right?

I have been watching the men's rights groups, and it is refreshing that there are being so honest. They used to all be female hating but now they are realistic. They are saying if your wife is not putting out, dump her, and I am so glad they are saying that. When you do not equate sex with money, it plays right into the hands of women.

[Gabacho]

It's bizarre how many guys on ISG fantasize about me masturbating. Even throwing in specific details like "in a truck stop bathroom. "

Some of those truck stop bathrooms are pretty nice though. There's even some Pilots and Flying J's out in Wyoming that have private showers inside the bathrooms. I saw one in Iowa one time that even had a buffet restaurant called iron skillet inside of the the truck stop! Sounds as good a place as any to masturbate, then get a nice ribeye steak afterwards.