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  1. #7128

    Another Point of View

    Something to listen to if you have time to kill.

    https://rumble.com/v4fqx12-tucker-ca...ve-kirsch.html

  2. #7127
    Quote Originally Posted by CasaNoVa  [View Original Post]
    Yeah I'm Lookin. Yeah your not looking at the Science. Just spoon feeding the official.

    Narrative from CDC WHO and NIH. How long did it take the government to admit the original Polio vaccines had SV40 in it.

    Go take your boosters. I pray for all the idiots who decided they wanted to be Guinea pigs for a MRNA tech vaccine.

    Never long term studied on humans and never before used as a vaccine in history.

    In what science journals have you read that a vaccine should be distributed in the middle of a global pandemic 1 year in. Hahah.

    You don't. You treat it with antivirals like Ivermectin dummy Vaccines are used before a pandemic.

    Hope you lemmings smarten up before the next globally implemented farse.
    I'm not here to debate your opinion on vaccines. I'm just pointing out some egregious errors in your post.

    Ivermectin isn't an antiviral. It's used internally to treat parasitic infections. It also has topical uses to treat rosacea and head lice. A simple search will show you a list of common antiviral drugs. For COVID-19, Paxlovid is prescribed for at risk patients. I can only speak of my own experience with Paxlovid. Two days after symptoms appeared and testing positive, I started taking Paxlovid, prescribed by my physician. Within 36 hours all symptoms had disappeared and within 3 days I was fully recovered. That was my second about with Covid. My first time, from the first onset of symptoms, until all symptoms were gone was almost 4 weeks. For the record I'm in a high risk group.

    It's difficult to use vaccines before a pandemic, because there's no vaccine. It's like putting new tires on your car, when you don't have a car. Vaccines are developed in response to things like pandemics or other serious illnesses.

    Almost anything you put in your body, from food, to recreational drugs, to vaccines will cause health problems in a percentage of the population. There are even infants who are unable to digest their own mother's breast milk. Vaccines and medicines are not exempt from the risk of adverse reactions. Anyone who expects any medicine or vaccine to be 100% safe and effective in 100% of the population is not qualified to have an opinion on the subject.

    With any course of treatment, or prevention, each individual should consider their own risks, consult with qualified physicians and make their own decision. Whether you choose to take Ivermectin, gargle with bleach, stick a tanning lamp bulb up your ass, or follow a physicians advice to recover from, or reduce risk of infection from Covid is your own choice and I celebrate your decision, whatever it may be.

  3. #7126
    Quote Originally Posted by CasaNoVa  [View Original Post]
    The NIH that had to change the official definition of a Vaccine when their jabs were found not to prevent transmission. LOL. Wow what dunces.

    Your dumb if you think that only MAGA supporters are critical of the pandemic outbreak, the Global response and lockdown and the testing of an experimental gene modifying MRNA jab a year after the pandemic occurred. One that doesn't stay localized in the arm and has your body producing its own spike proteins that cause clotting and cardiovascular inflammatory issues all over the body. It kills your natural T cell immunity and 1/3 of the doses had toxicities and were full of dna fragments and sv40 from.

    The speedy manufacturing process. If anyone was worried about the truth being seen for what it is, it would be Trump for stupidly fast tracking the development of the Covid jabs. Your only defense against truth is calling people conspiracy theorists or MAGA. Your not looking hard enough or in the right places.
    First of all it was the CDC that changed their definition. It had nothing to do with the ineffectiveness of the vaccine against CoVid. Here, instead of repeating widely discredited babble, why don't you read about the reality:

    https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-976069264061

    You see, the vaccine does / did indirectly prevent transmission. Why? The truism is that if a person doesn't have the virus he (or she) can't transmit it. Kind of simple but obvious, right? Well the vaccine made it much less likely that the person vaccinated would get infected with the virus. Again, if you don't have it, you can't spread it. Now even if the vaccinated person does get infected (much lower likelihood but certainly possible) the person is much more likely to survive and the recovery period was demonstrated to be a much shorter period of time in the vast majority of cases. Again shorter period of infection, faster recovery means shorter period of transmissibility. That is the basic science.

  4. #7125
    Woodman, you really need to at least a bit of research before posting. Besides the ranting below you wrote about Marvin Hager dying in 2023-2024.

    Marvin Hager died in 2021 and it was not due to the vaccine.

    While Hagler's cause of death has not been made public, his wife Kay has dispelled rumours that it is linked to a COVID-19 jab. She wrote on Facebook two days after his death: "I was the only person close to him until the last minute, and I am the only person that know how things went not even his family know all the details and I do NOT accept to read some stupid comment without knowing really what happen.

    Marvin was not healthy and it was kept private. But of course there are the conspiracy people spreading lies.
    I do agree with you that he was one of the best fighters ever. His crown was stolen in his last fight with Sugar Ray Leonard.

    Quote Originally Posted by Woodman09  [View Original Post]
    You're a Gullable Fool who Believes the news sources Funded by Big Pharma -- Good Luck with that Booster dumbAss-.

    Actually many have died from the shit vax including a good friend of mine- So Many Young People with Myocarditus -.

    LOL -- The Clot shot Killed MANY that would have been Fine without that shit --You're a Dick head-- More People Die now than in 2019- 5 More peolple Die a day in 2024 than in 2019- I wonder why? Durrrrhhhhh.

    RIP -- Marvin Hagler and so many other Mysterious deaths in 2023 - 2024.

  5. #7124
    Where do you get these numbers?
    40 pct from pre pandemic levels? What baseline was used?

    Can you elaborate on this number? Who conducted this research or where on earth did you get this?

    Your number makes no sense.

    Quote Originally Posted by CasaNoVa  [View Original Post]
    Its called "Excess deaths". They are up 40% from prepandemic levels and the uptick happened after the vaccine rollout. You Villainy are clueless.

    Its a number that has been studied for decades by insurance companies and other medical.

    Agencies. You are all biased and don't want to admit you were duped to take a vaccine that wasn't safe or effective. Follow the science!

  6. #7123
    My responses.

    1) The vaccine helped prevent a significant amount of people from having to be hospitalized or lose their lives. It was never a cure all. The NIH had to make that clear later so that the mentally challenged can understand.

    2) Overall, heart inflammation is an extremely rare side effect of the COVID-19 vaccine. In fact, heart inflammation is much more common if you get the COVID-19 virus.

    3) The possibility of getting DNA fragments damaging your immunity is extremely unlikely. We are talking in the millions to 1 chance. There was a doctor who started this B.S. But it has since been disproven.

    4). 1/3 of the doses?? Really? What or where is the source (s) of your information coming from?

    Quote Originally Posted by CasaNoVa  [View Original Post]
    The NIH that had to change the official definition of a Vaccine when their jabs were found not to prevent transmission. LOL. Wow what dunces.

    Your dumb if you think that only MAGA supporters are critical of the pandemic outbreak, the Global response and lockdown and the testing of an experimental gene modifying MRNA jab a year after the pandemic occurred. One that doesn't stay localized in the arm and has your body producing its own spike proteins that cause clotting and cardiovascular inflammatory issues all over the body. It kills your natural T cell immunity and 1/3 of the doses had toxicities and were full of dna fragments and sv40 from.

    The speedy manufacturing process. If anyone was worried about the truth being seen for what it is, it would be Trump for stupidly fast tracking the development of the Covid jabs. Your only defense against truth is calling people conspiracy theorists or MAGA. Your not looking hard enough or in the right places.

  7. #7122

    "According to the NIH" hahaha

    Quote Originally Posted by IamLookin  [View Original Post]
    Judging by your vocabulary you are definitely MAGA. According to NIH, 232,000 lives could have been save from May. 2021 to Sept 2022 had they been vaccinated.

    I too know people that died due to the virus before the vaccine was made available. I guess you suffer from dementia as you don't seem to remember hospitals being full to capacity.
    with patients and on life support.
    The NIH that had to change the official definition of a Vaccine when their jabs were found not to prevent transmission. LOL. Wow what dunces.

    Your dumb if you think that only MAGA supporters are critical of the pandemic outbreak, the Global response and lockdown and the testing of an experimental gene modifying MRNA jab a year after the pandemic occurred. One that doesn't stay localized in the arm and has your body producing its own spike proteins that cause clotting and cardiovascular inflammatory issues all over the body. It kills your natural T cell immunity and 1/3 of the doses had toxicities and were full of dna fragments and sv40 from.

    The speedy manufacturing process. If anyone was worried about the truth being seen for what it is, it would be Trump for stupidly fast tracking the development of the Covid jabs. Your only defense against truth is calling people conspiracy theorists or MAGA. Your not looking hard enough or in the right places.

  8. #7121

    Haha Light years brighter

    Quote Originally Posted by Villainy  [View Original Post]
    You might not be aware of this but if you have an argument with substance it isn't stronger when you call people names. The other point you made which is completely silly is comparing CoVid deaths or vaccine deaths in 2024 vs 2019. The CoVid epidemic didn't reach US shores until 2020 so obviously 1 death in 2024 is dramatically more than the -0- deaths in 2019.

    As an unbiased observor I would say that you shouldn't argue with that guy IamLookin: because he appears to be light years brighter than you.
    Its called "Excess deaths". They are up 40% from prepandemic levels and the uptick happened after the vaccine rollout. You Villainy are clueless.

    Its a number that has been studied for decades by insurance companies and other medical.

    Agencies. You are all biased and don't want to admit you were duped to take a vaccine that wasn't safe or effective. Follow the science!

  9. #7120

    Yeah call everything you don't want to believe a Conspiracy

    Quote Originally Posted by IamLookin  [View Original Post]
    You two should start your own comedy team. ( Woodman and JustTK ) the real Beavis and Butthead.

    By the way Woodman, Hagler was one of the great fighters of all time. I agree with you on that.
    But he did not die from the Covid vaccination, that is simply another conspiracy theory you fell for.
    Yeah I'm Lookin. Yeah your not looking at the Science. Just spoon feeding the official.

    Narrative from CDC WHO and NIH. How long did it take the government to admit the original Polio vaccines had SV40 in it.

    Go take your boosters. I pray for all the idiots who decided they wanted to be Guinea pigs for a MRNA tech vaccine.

    Never long term studied on humans and never before used as a vaccine in history.

    In what science journals have you read that a vaccine should be distributed in the middle of a global pandemic 1 year in. Hahah.

    You don't. You treat it with antivirals like Ivermectin dummy Vaccines are used before a pandemic.

    Hope you lemmings smarten up before the next globally implemented farse.

  10. #7119
    Quote Originally Posted by IamLookin  [View Original Post]
    ( Woodman and JustTK ) the real Beavis and Butthead.
    The omly thing you provided to support your claim was " it says so in the mainstream media". Thats like asking a christian to provide evidence of god, and them replying " its obvious stupid, just look in the bible!

    And then you resort to ad homs. Just shows u r a gullible sheep, just bleating.

  11. #7118
    You two should start your own comedy team. ( Woodman and JustTK ) the real Beavis and Butthead.

    By the way Woodman, Hagler was one of the great fighters of all time. I agree with you on that.
    But he did not die from the Covid vaccination, that is simply another conspiracy theory you fell for.

    Quote Originally Posted by Woodman09  [View Original Post]
    -- The So called 'Conspiracies' Are Not.

  12. #7117

    Yep

    Quote Originally Posted by JustTK  [View Original Post]
    The conspiracies are the 2 dozen tales full of lies that the USA put out during COVID. If you had paid attention to the facts that have gradually emerged, you would know that.
    -- The So called 'Conspiracies' Are Not.

  13. #7116
    Wow, please go on, this is very interesting.

    Quote Originally Posted by JustTK  [View Original Post]
    If you still believe the mainstream press at this stage, you're just a gullible sucker. We are all being ground in to the dirt but you won't notice until you have no clothes left.

    All the top independent jouranilists agree. You just need to open your ears and eyes to realise we are being raped of everything we have.

    Take the genocide taking place as a great example of media whitewashing.

  14. #7115
    Quote Originally Posted by IamLookin  [View Original Post]
    I don't agree with you at all. In fact I find your response and also Woodman's quite amusing and ludicrous.
    If you still believe the mainstream press at this stage, your just a gullible sucker. We are all being ground in to the dirt but you won't notice until you have no clothes left.

    All the top independent jouranilists agree. You just need to open your ears and eyes to realise we are being raped of everything we have.

    Take the genocide taking place as a great example of media whitewashing.

  15. #7114
    I don't agree with you at all. In fact I find your response and also Woodman's quite amusing and ludicrous.

    Quote Originally Posted by JustTK  [View Original Post]
    Not sure about "kill us all". But the rest of what you is correct. Certainly they couldn't give a shlt about you nor I. Glad we finally agree.

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