Stupid shit in Medellin

[Elvis 2008]

Cause of death? Car accident. No autopsy was performed. My stepfather was asked if he wanted an autopsy and he said no. If the official cause of death was a stroke, the accidental death, double indemnity would not have been paid and he was not willing to lose that money.

LOL. Yeah, and this is how most deaths go. If you are a doctor and put down stroke, you get shit. If you put down accident, you don't. So what are you going to do? Usually doctors do not get paid for filling out death certificates so they just put down a PC answer.

The Danish did a study and said cause of death was determined in 70% of cases by history. So JJ you allude to the fact that an autopsy would have shown stroke. It is not as yes or no as you think. If an autopsy was done, it probably would not have been definitive even if cause of death was stroke.

You guys keep quoting Villainy and I have to read his crap. He wrote, "I don't think a medical examiner is going to explore cause of death. " First off, most death certificates are not filled out by medical examiners. Second, the CDC wants doctors to list if someone is Covid + on the death certificate even if it is not related to his death.

The problem is, and what the CDC director is trying to say, is that there have not been two columns with Covid deaths: with Covid and from Covid. NOW she is trying to make a distinction.

Just like your stepfather manipulated things, the CDC is doing that too. To me, this is old news. The CDC has played with the numbers with opioid deaths and AIDS in the past, and they are doing it here. The interesting thing to me is why CDC head Walensky is making this distinction now.

[Elvis 2008]

It is not just a number that directly conflicts with what this Dr. Malone said about there being zero omicron deaths, it is also reality that directly conflicts with it. One of the reasons I only check in here every once in a while is that I am rather busy writing post-mortems, which includes those for people who died from COVID after being infected with omicron. If you have this Dr. Malone on speed dial, could you kindly ask him if he has any suggestions what we might be doing wrong in his opinion? Are these people in our morgue not really dead, maybe? Or when we sequence the virus, are we maybe messing up the read alignment and the variant calling? Any other suggestions? In advance, please give my utmost gratitude to Dr. Malone for enlightening us.

I asked this before Ptr, and I will ask it again in a different way. You know that 90% of people who die in a hospital have microscopic pulmonary emboli at the time of death and 35% have gross emboli before Covid came around. So if you wanted to call those people Covid deaths, no one would stop you, but we both know those clots may not have been due to Covid.

How are you determining if strokes and heart attacks and emboli are due to Covid or not?

[PepolesBuddy]

Why?

It isn't the AIDS virus. And "positive" doesn't guarantee that you have the virus. And I believe I wrote "if they are willing to risk it" so that means fully informing them..

Side topic but I take descovy for PREP. I don't have aids and this pill prevents aids 99%.

[Lou32]

If you test positive it is almost certain you have it. There are lots of false negatives with antigen testing, but not a lot of false positives.

And it should not be up to them "if they are willing to risk it". It seems simple to me. If I test positive I probably have covid, if it was by an antigen test I am almost certainly contagious. No matter how I feel. And just be a good person who says. I don't want to take a chance on infecting anyone else even if they agree to it. It's only a few days in ones life. You don't have to knowingly put someone at risk, even if the risk is small.

Of course all of this is just theoretical. I'm not saying you are that person.

It's theoretical but I think the situation is being blown a bit out of proportion.

Everyone here who has had sex since February 2020 has likely been exposed to and / or passed on the virus.

If you had a three week trip and at the end tested positive then you've probably already passed it on to multiple girls.

Young women make up a tiny, tiny portion of those who end up in the hospital but, yes, they could pass it on to abuelita or another immunocompromised family member.

It isn't automatic I'd call in a chica if I was stuck but feeling fine. But I'd let her make her own fully informed decision.

I take the virus seriously but it isn't AIDS or Ebola.

I respect other viewpoints on that though.

[JjBee62]

At least someone in the USA is thinking with some sense.

"News Alert: Supreme Court blocks nationwide vaccine and testing mandate for large businesses.

The Supreme Court blocked President Joe Biden's vaccine or testing requirement aimed at large businesses, but it allowed a vaccine mandate for certain health care workers to go into effect nationwide..

There's a reasonable chance the insurance companies will effectively create a vaccine mandate for large companies. They've done something similar in other areas.

Covid increases health care costs and the majority of the costs are for treatment of the unvaccinated. That cuts into the insurance company profits. What are the chances of the major health insurers significantly raising premiums for companies which don't require vaccination?

The mandate for healthcare workers applies to 10 million healthcare workers. That's about half of them. "Certain healthcare workers" is phrased to suggest that a fairly small number of healthcare workers are affected.

[JjBee62]

Absolute bovine feces. Just not true. First of all you over stated your example. If an accident victim is decapitated, I don't think the medical examiner is going to explore the cause of death. I think he (or she) knows that a decapitation is fatal. Do you seriously think he (or she) is going to run CoVid tests? Maybe look for poison? What about evidence of a seizure? Without a reason to search further, that body is going down as a car accident / decapitation and it's on to the next case. This is never branded as a CoVid death. This "classification issue" has been raised in several of your podcasts / blogs and has been debunked and debunked again. So, why don't you spend a few minutes researching instead of rebranding the latest crap as new insight.

This part is very solid. I have 2 personal examples related to what you wrote.

The first happened when I was driving a tow truck in San Diego. I got called out late one night for a bad accident on I-15 by Miramar Road. It was a single car accident and the driver was dead, his head almost completely severed. The rules are that the CHP is not allowed to move the body. Only the coroner can do that. However, if the person is still alive, and they seem it necessary, they can move an injured person from the car.

It was a rainy night and anytime it rains late at night in San Diego, there are lots of bad accidents. If my phone rang late night, I knew I needed my raincoat (they only called me out at night when there were more accidents than night shift could cover).

After waiting on scene for almost an hour, one of the cops told me it was probably going to be another 2 hours or more before the coroner arrived. Another cop said there was no sense in me waiting. He walked over to the car, said "I think he's still breathing", cut the seatbelt and pulled the body out. Which allowed me to load the car and take it to our yard.

They knew there was no need to wait for the coroner to show up, certify the death and then remove the corpse. And when the coroner finally did show up they knew he would understand and write it up normally.

The second incident happened to my mother. She almost certainly had a stroke, while she was driving to the store. One of her neighbors was driving behind her when she started swerving and suddenly sped up to about 50 mph, ran off the road and the car rolled over. On that road, any sped over 20 mph was risking severe damage to your car. The other driver was at her car within seconds and she was already dead, without any obvious injuries.

Cause of death? Car accident. No autopsy was performed. My stepfather was asked if he wanted an autopsy and he said no. If the official cause of death was a stroke, the accidental death, double indemnity would not have been paid and he was not willing to lose that money.

[Queens35]

I think it takes a horrible person to specify that you haven't been sick in the past 14 days when you really have. The honor system doesn't work when there's no honor.

It takes an even worse person to test positive and still plan to invite company over. Whether they know or not is irrelevant, the fact that they may be in dire need may force them to accept the invitation against their better judgement. Why not just wait another 2 weeks.

[Paulie97]

It is amazing Elvira still in here with the "numbers are cooked" nonsense. If there is some conspiracy to rob medical institutions then why hasn't it sweeped the globe? It's called a pandemic. They have effected the known world since bible times, is in the very book that stupid, numbskull Texans claim to worship. We also had these same dullard conspiracy theories back in the Middle Ages. The Jews anyone? So Elvira, place it where the sun never shines, along with your fellow basement buttbots. Wink.

[JjBee62]

Thanks but, again, I don't mean "feeling sick and then testing positive". I mean feeling fine, testing positive, being stuck in Medellin then what?

To further clear it up I didn't mean purposely infecting anyone. Personally, if I'm chatting with a lady while stuck in Medellin and she (likely) offered to keep me company I'd tell her straight away that I tested positive but I feel fine. I'd make sure she was cool with that risk BUT if she hesitated at all or if I started being symptomatic I'd drop the issue.

But all of that is probably moot anyway since all it takes is for one front desk person to drop a dime about a positive gringo inviting chicas to his room then you'd be in a world of shit, probably.

So I guess just Netflix and waiting it out.

I don't think anyone is intentionally trying to infect anyone else. If you test positive, there is a good chance you're contagious, whether or not you have any symptoms.

Both sides of what you're considering have happened to me. The first time, a girl who really wanted to come and see me, had some symptoms. Instead of telling me, or canceling she came over and spent a few hours with me. The next day I came down with strep throat. Fortunately, with antibiotics, strep is only contagious for about 2 days, so I only lost 3 days. This was late in 2020, so Covid was a possibility.

While I was sick with strep another girl wanted to see me, even after I informed her about the strep. However, she lives with her parents and has a young daughter, so I turned her down.

The same thing happened when I went into Covid quarantine. Three different girls I know offered to come to Bogota to stay with me until I recovered. In that case, if I had accepted, they would have been quarantined with me for almost 2 weeks, which would remove the risk to others. However, regardless of how young or in shape someone is, there's always a risk they'll get very sick from Covid. It's not a risk I'm willing to knowingly subject others to.

The timing of your question was bad. One of the girls who I've known for 4 years just lost her grandmother to Covid. According to her, she went from a little sick to extremely sick very quickly and died within 30 minutes of being intubated. The same thing happened to my aunt. One day she got sick, the next she was in the hospital and the next day she died.

[Huacho]

So you have a vaccine that has been proven effective. Not 100% effective but nothing is perfect. People who then won't take the vaccine are just selfish assholes, and should be taken outside and shot.

[Ptrbrgr]

The CDC is trying to back off that number because it is going to explode and it directly conflicts with what Dr. Malone said about there being zero omicron deaths..

It is not just a number that directly conflicts with what this Dr. Malone said about there being zero omicron deaths, it is also reality that directly conflicts with it. One of the reasons I only check in here every once in a while is that I am rather busy writing post-mortems, which includes those for people who died from COVID after being infected with omicron. If you have this Dr. Malone on speed dial, could you kindly ask him if he has any suggestions what we might be doing wrong in his opinion? Are these people in our morgue not really dead, maybe? Or when we sequence the virus, are we maybe messing up the read alignment and the variant calling? Any other suggestions? In advance, please give my utmost gratitude to Dr. Malone for enlightening us.

[ShooBree]

The gang's all here. All it takes is one or two swift kicks to behave and the Elviras, Pedros, Shoo Swedes, Marquis de Twats, and others who dream of Medellin come a running. LOL.

No wonder you have no friends, you're dumb & weak.

[JustTK]

Great interview. Espec the latter half. Elvis will love it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ik6cxFBbBw

[Zeos1]

Why?

It isn't the AIDS virus. And "positive" doesn't guarantee that you have the virus. And I believe I wrote "if they are willing to risk it" so that means fully informing them.

I feel your reply was a bit of an overreaction.

If you test positive it is almost certain you have it. There are lots of false negatives with antigen testing, but not a lot of false positives.

And it should not be up to them "if they are willing to risk it". It seems simple to me. If I test positive I probably have covid, if it was by an antigen test I am almost certainly contagious. No matter how I feel. And just be a good person who says. I don't want to take a chance on infecting anyone else even if they agree to it. It's only a few days in ones life. You don't have to knowingly put someone at risk, even if the risk is small.

Of course all of this is just theoretical. I'm not saying you are that person.

[Villainy]

I saw Paulie smugly quoted this and the truth is I should put both of you douches on ignore. You are too stupid to get what I was talking about so I will explain it once. As Mr. E posted today, "75% of vaccinated people who died of COVID-19 had at least four comorbidities."

You said before you put me on ignore. Please, don't lie this time. Just do it! I just feel compelled to point out some of the rancid bull dung you are passing out. I know you aren't bright enough to come up with it on your own so a quick search and I see you are just rehashing the same trash that is on your favorite podcasts or blogs. None of which is supported by serious analysis or any expert groups (other than an occassional renegade pseudo-scientist).

Right now, there are more + Covid cases than ever before.

I assume that even Elvis the Diarrhea Analyst doesn't mean "cumulative cases" but that you are talking about "daily new cases".

So which is it Elvis? One day you talk about all the new cases are Omnicron and it is highly contagious but not highly threatening, so the pandemic is over. But now your new theory is that there are all these cases because the vaccine is ineffective.

Isn't this a new variant? Didn't the vaccine stop the primary CoVid virus and the Delta variant that followed??

If someone gets in a car wreck and his head is cut off and he tested + for Covid, that counts as a Covid death, so there is going to be an explosion of deaths now.

Absolute bovine feces. Just not true. First of all you over stated your example. If an accident victim is decapitated, I don't think the medical examiner is going to explore the cause of death. I think he (or she) knows that a decapitation is fatal. Do you seriously think he (or she) is going to run CoVid tests? Maybe look for poison? What about evidence of a seizure? Without a reason to search further, that body is going down as a car accident / decapitation and it's on to the next case. This is never branded as a CoVid death. This "classification issue" has been raised in several of your podcasts / blogs and has been debunked and debunked again. So, why don't you spend a few minutes researching instead of rebranding the latest crap as new insight.

The CDC is trying to back off that number because it is going to explode and it directly conflicts with what Dr. Malone said about there being zero omicron deaths. Of course, you douches only watch CNN and MSNBC but 10 million people watch Joe Rogan's podcast and Dr. Malone was one of his most popular guests, and the informed people unlike you are seeing how full of shit the CDC really is.

I'm sure you are very impressed with Dr. Malone. He was on the cutting edge of medical exploration 31 years ago. If he were still so knowledgeable, why didn't any of the pharmaceutical companies bring him in to help develop the vaccines? You know why? Because you don't pull Wilbur and Orville out of the grave to help design the newest Boeing Stratacruiser.

Sorry, douche, but you do not what the fuck you are talking about. Do you know how many pure Covid deaths there were in Italy when the Italians took out co-morbidities? "2. 9% presented with no comorbidities and 97.1% had one or more condition listed aside from COVID-19, such as ischemic heart disease, heart failure, type-2 diabetes, obesity or autoimmune disease (see Table 1 here)."

BFD. The total obesity rate in the US is 36.2%. And just to help you understand numbers (something you are woefully unable to do on your own) 20% of the US population under the age of 19 is obese. That means that among adults the obesity rate is even higher than 36%. Actually I did the math, since you are never going to be able to do simple algebra on your own. The US population has a 42.7% obesity rate if you eliminate the 0-19 year olds.

That is just one co-morbidity. Of course people with no co-morbidities do better. Duh? My point is that the adult population is rife with co-morbidities. You can't simply ignore that fact.

So you are being an arrogant douche in thinking that the 80,000 number has been exceeded. Tell me douche, how do you determine a heart attack, stroke, or pulmonary embolism was due to Covid or not?
If you are the CDC, you say, "Ah fuck it, we will say they are all due to Covid." and a douche like you says "Sounds smart to me."

I say that the CDC and other medical institutions are a hell of a lot more knowledgeable than you or your podcast heroes and they have collectively 100's of years of experience. Tell me again about your credentials??

MA or PhD in Epidemiology? Virology? Or Immunology? Should I believe them or you?? Seems like an easy choice to me.