Stupid shit in Medellin

[Knowledge]

A fake card would have to work twice, once at airport check and again at Colombia passport control. Your home country could impose a stiff fine and a place of shame on the no fly list. Pass the popcorn and let's watch the show. Some may have heard the breaking news about recently deported tennis pro Djokovic. He is banned from entering Australia for three years.

I don't think many of them will get vaccinated to get into Colombia. They'll use a fake card. Even after someone gets caught, they'll continue to use fake cards.

[Osteoknot]

Wow, you guys have really been going at it over in Stupid Shit about Covid. I will interject and say this one time and not debate anyone on it. First off, Ego. I was the first person on this board to call the vaccination cards the "new passport" for international travel, over a year ago. I am not going to look it up, I will leave that to someone else if they wish. That was not a stroke of brilliance, but I happened to be the first one to say it here. Most of the people making the arguments about Covid here, pro or con, are not qualified to do so. You can be very intelligent and still be ignorant. You don't know what you don't know.

Do I have a right to rant? Perhaps. I used to sit in the Chief Executive Suite of an international Fortune 50 company that sold health insurance. That was the last five years of my working career before I retired, relatively young. We had millions of covered lives. We had to decide what to pay for and what not to pay for. Yes, there is bias because health insurance in the USA is capitalistic, but guess what? Healthy people cost less than sick people and insurance companies want you to stay healthy. And vaccinations are the classic population health intervention, and trust me, there is not enough of a short term, direct profit margin there to justify a vaccination program that doesn't work. Don't talk to me about orphan diseases and drugs that costs hundreds of thousands of dollars per dose. That is a separate subject.

In fact don't talk to me at all about this, I will not respond. I would ask the moderators if there happens to be any responses to this post, please put them it in Stupid Shit where they belong. You can put this post wherever you want, I will not be offended.

I also posted here before that I don't care if the vaccine is effective or not (it is a valid intervention), or who makes a profit from it, or any other theoretical ulterior motives. Unless you are some fringe conspiracy theorist who believes the vaccine does more harm than good, then for the purposes of this board, it doesn't' matter. I am here to fuck, lick and get sucked, and maybe spread a little love while doing it. I've had two vaccine shots and a booster. Before that, I went to a Covid party very early on in this morass and intentionally got infected, and it worked. Right now I am the prototype for the most immune you can possibly be to Covid and its variants.

Woo Hoo. I don't care what you decide to do other than the theoretical risk of harming others by not being vaccinated, but I believe that is a wash by now, it doesn't matter. That train has left the station. I made my choice solely based on my desire to come and go to Medellin and travel internationally as freely as possible. So far so good. I survived the infection, and I get to ignore all the bull shit surrounding the virus. If you chose differently and now you can't cross borders as you please, I respect your choice but stop whining about it. You made your bed, now lay in it.

Finally, I am also on record (not here) in the very beginning of this shit show for saying we should have done absolutely nothing to intervene for this virus, based on early data about the mortality and attack rates. The outcome would have been much better by doing nothing than the prolonged infectious phase we are dealing with now. A major flu epidemic happens every century or less and it culls the herd. The main difference now is this is the first one since the Internet got invented, so like assholes, everybody has an opinion they can put out there on the World Wide Web. University of Google graduates are prone to faulty thinking processes from too much unfiltered information.

As far as what topics deserve to be discussed here, last time I checked the only opinions that count on that are the owners and administrators / moderators of this Web site. Any one else's opinion on what should or should not be discussed here doesn't mean jack shit. I find it credible and amazing that this Web site tolerates our Stupid Shit, and the name of that thread should tell you something. Osteeeeee Oouuuuut.

[Lou32]

I'm sorry you're unable to understand. It's quite simple.

Transmissible Spongiform Encephalopathy is a class of communicable disease which is incurable and 100% fatal. It's the deadliest disease, by Case Fatality Ratio (CFR) known. Yet, you've probably never heard of it. The reason is because there are only a small number of cases each it's not worse than COVID because it only affects less than 10,000 people per year, worldwide. Compare that to 35,000 new cases of Covid yesterday just in Colombia.

Now look at Ebola. In 20#0 and 2021 there were 141 cases of Ebola with 61 deaths. Over the same period there were over 300 million cases of Covid with more than 5 million deaths.

There's no doubt Ebola is a terrible disease if you get it, but unless you live or work in the areas in Africa where it has shown up, your chances of getting infected are just about zero. There is also no asymptomatic transmission of Ebola. Unless you're actually sick with Ebola, in which case you wouldn't consider inviting girls over, you aren't going to infect another person. That's one of the reasons keeping Ebola from becoming a pandemic.

Nobody chooses to get Ebola, AIDS or Covid. So making the argument that someone would choose one over another is silly. It comes down to risk. Unless you want to go mongering in the middle of an Ebola outbreak your chance of getting and passing on Ebola is zero. Unless you're an IV drug user, sharing needles, or you're giving and receiving unprotected anal sex your risk of getting or giving AIDS is almost zero.

Your risk of getting infected with Covid is perhaps 20% or more, with possibly the same chance of passing it on to any girls you see.

Do you understand now? You can avoid Ebola by staying out of the areas of Africa where there is an Ebola outbreak. You can avoid AIDS by not being an IV drug user, or by always using a clean needle and by not letting a bunch of men fuck you in the ass without using condoms. You can completely avoid those 2 diseases by doing absolutely nothing. No mask, vaccine or social distancing required. How do you avoid Covid?

Regarding the ladies, that's your decision. Well, assuming you have already decided not to inform the hotel or apartment management that you tested positive and are complying with the legally required quarantine, it's your choice.

If you inform the hotel you're possibly not going to have the option to invite girls over. The hotel probably won't let them in. If one of them manages to get in, you might end up finishing your quarantine and then getting escorted to the airport to end your last visit to Colombia.

There are plenty of ways to look at it. The easiest way is to decide you wouldn't knowingly put another person at risk, once you know you're infected. That one is simple and avoids any other issues.

At the other end of the spectrum is that you would rather risk being banned from Colombia l, than go 10-14 days without getting laid.

No, I understood the first time. And I don't remember writing about not informing the hotel. Where did I write that?

The argument that is somehow trying to be made here is that SARS-CoV-2 is is a far more lethal virus than Ebola which is ridiculous.

If I had Ebola and rang up the Colombian health authorities to tell them that I can fucking guarantee you that it would trigger a massive emergency response with military coming to my location to roadblock the streets around my building and to isolate EVERYONE who I may have come in contact with.

It would make international news. It would be a huge problem, mostly for me since I would probably be dead in 72 hours.

COVID is a widespread, airborne virus that causes death in less than half a percent of those who contract it. So far it is LESS deadly than the 1918 H1N1 Influenza Pandemic.

As I wrote before you wouldn't choose Ebola over COVID and neither would anyone else. No one chooses their diseases but we all acknowledge the truly dangerous from the dangerous only if a series of circumstances happen to line up in a way for bad luck to occur. Again, please show me the stats regarding women under 30 dying of COVID.

You know COVID is highly survivable and the death toll is due to it affecting 1 billion humans and NOT killing 995,000,000 million of them.

I've made several trips to Colombia since late 2019 and I'm not dead or have gotten sick and neither have any of the young ladies whom I've kept company with (I would have gotten plenty of RFM if that had happened, believe me).

If you can point out the Colombian law that says "if you test positive for COVID-19 you must not be in physical contact with another human being or else you will be permanently banned from Colombia" that would be helpful (direct link please to a Colombian government webpage).

I haven't heard of any American "escorted to the airport" for inviting a woman to his apartment but I suppose it must be happening all the time in Medellin since COVID is everywhere, gringos are everywhere and the authorities are monitoring everyone very closely. Surely there must be hundreds of examples of men being frog marched out of the country because the PCR Test said "Positive" and the Paisas have been dropping like flies from the COVID that they have been forced to contract from the gringos.

[Elvis 2008]

Those like you deserve any and everything you get for you have stood as a barrier ensuring the endemicity of this thing when if all got vaxed within a timeframe this could have been extinguished. You are ignorant and unworthy of a debate.

So Gene, the problem was we did not pay Moderna and Pfizer enough money for the vaccines?

And Gene, if the vaccines were so fucking great, why were there 50% more deaths in 2021 than 2020 in the USA?

[Elvis 2008]

So what I am trying to say is that all you COVID nuts should start worrying about dodging cars.

Buddy went to New York because his sister died. Funeral Parlor told him to get the doctor to list the death as COVID and he could get $9,000 paid toward the funeral expenses. I looked it up and it is the the tip pf the iceberg. There is a ton of money to be made and saved if you use COVID to your benefit! So many COVID deaths are complete BS. Only the stupid still believe in the scare tactics. It has been two years. You idiots need to wake up!

Great post LIH! Yeah, JJBee does all these math calculations and even gives an example of how death certificates may not correctly be filled out. I am wondering if even he is going to start questioning this death data because this story you just gave happens all the time.

The powers that be wanted these numbers inflated until recently when they are coming back and biting them in the ass and what is amazing is you actually have guys here covering this up.

You are a dumb blowhard self absorbed with your own views. You fail to realize these are probabilities you are dealing with, and those are measured over populations. But obviously you will live in your oblivion.

You do not even need me to tell you this guy is full of it because you have seen yourself how the deaths are counted, but he wants you to believe there is this super secret scientific method counting deaths. He does not and cannot say what that method is so he relies on insults and arrogance. They want you to believe in an authority figure that you know does not exist.

[GeneHickman]

There is a difference between infection rate and death rate, Covid infection rate is higher, but much lower death rate. If the death rate was as high as Ebola, there would be at least 200 million dead worldwide.

Valid point and I never argued otherwise, nonetheless the contagion and epidemiology means more overall died from this last 2yrs and without the measures even more likely would have. Hence the comparison is incorrect.

[GeneHickman]

LOL. Facts Gene? Where the hell were you when JJBee had an embolic event and no anticoagulants were given?

And JJBee is still arguing for the vaccine. So tell me doctor, is it well known that the vaccine causes embolic events as well?

And maybe you can tell me why the vaccine is being mandated on people with prior infection seeing as how you know all about the standard of care especially those with prior embolic events.

Or maybe you can just keep kissing the government's ass while it artificially inflates Covid numbers and ignore all the mayhem the vaccines are causing.

You are a dumb blowhard self absorbed with your own views. You fail to realize these are probabilities you are dealing with, and those are measured over populations. But obviously you will live in your oblivion. Those like you deserve any and everything you get for you have stood as a barrier ensuring the endemicity of this thing when if all got vaxed within a timeframe this could have been extinguished. You are ignorant and unworthy of a debate.

[LoveItHere69]

Roughly 1.3 million people die in auto accidents (automobile, motor cyclists, and people hit by them) every year. 3,287 per day. This can easily be tripled since the majority of the people on the planet do not own a vehicle or a motor cycle which means that there are 3. 9 million people each year or 9,861 per day dying. So what I am trying to say is that all you COVID nuts should start worrying about dodging cars and motor cycles like Frogger. So just JUMP!

Buddy went to New York because his sister died. Funeral Parlor told him to get the doctor to list the death as COVID and he could get $9,000 paid toward the funeral expenses. I looked it up and it is the the tip pf the iceberg. There is a ton of money to be made and saved if you use COVID to your benefit! So many COVID deaths are complete BS. Only the stupid still believe in the scare tactics. It has been two years. You idiots need to wake up!

https://coronavirus.health.ny.gov/fe...ral-assistance

[Elvis 2008]

Covid is an acute illness. Acute illness increases risk of thromboembolism, and Covid especially so. This is well recognized all over the medical literature. Prophylactic doses of anticoagulants is now part of the regimen of standard of care and you are utterly misinformed. So don't confuse your political ideology with medical facts, and stop with your facial love affair with your rectum. First go look up your facts, it would be a first step in that monumental effort.

LOL. Facts Gene? Where the hell were you when JJBee had an embolic event and no anticoagulants were given?

And JJBee is still arguing for the vaccine. So tell me doctor, is it well known that the vaccine causes embolic events as well?

And maybe you can tell me why the vaccine is being mandated on people with prior infection seeing as how you know all about the standard of care especially those with prior embolic events.

Or maybe you can just keep kissing the government's ass while it artificially inflates Covid numbers and ignore all the mayhem the vaccines are causing.

[MedalloBum]

Well let's see. Officially over 5 M people have died of Covid in under 2 yrs. And we know many countries undercounted this. Be that as it may it still approaching 3 M a year. 33 M have died of AIDS predominantly in Africa in about 40 yrs. That's about 800 k a year. Ebola has taken a few thousand people in all. As far as global health goes, Covid has had the bigger impact. Despite the mitigation measured put in place.

There is a difference between infection rate and death rate, Covid infection rate is higher, but much lower death rate. If the death rate was as high as Ebola, there would be at least 200 million dead worldwide.

[GeneHickman]

Hahahhahahahha.

And the covid cultist shows his true colors. They always do. Grossly misinformed, or just lacking logic. Emotional thinking really is a bee-otch.

Well let's see. Officially over 5 M people have died of Covid in under 2 yrs. And we know many countries undercounted this. Be that as it may it still approaching 3 M a year. 33 M have died of AIDS predominantly in Africa in about 40 yrs. That's about 800 k a year. Ebola has taken a few thousand people in all. As far as global health goes, Covid has had the bigger impact. Despite the mitigation measured put in place.

[Nounce]

Hahahhahahahha.
Covid is worse than ebola or aids. 99.97 survival rate...

It depends on how you look at the numbers because the number of deaths tells a different story.

[GeneHickman]

Yeah, Gene, I know.

What is sheer nonsense is not distinguishing between deaths from Covid and with Covid. You make it sound like all emboli now are due to Covid. Are they? And if not, how do you tell which emboli are due to Covid and which ones are not? I have asked this three times now and not gotten an answer. That is pretty telling in and of itself.

Wow, you mean it is not the virus that causes death from respiratory failure? The virus causes inflammation and the body responds to the inflammation with clots, and the clots kill people? That would mean anticoagulants could save lives.

Maybe you should tell people that or maybe you should pull your head out of your ass and see that doctors who are actually advocating for treatment of Covid with anticoagulants are getting banned from Twitter and youtube.

Covid is an acute illness. Acute illness increases risk of thromboembolism, and Covid especially so. This is well recognized all over the medical literature. Prophylactic doses of anticoagulants is now part of the regimen of standard of care and you are utterly misinformed. So don't confuse your political ideology with medical facts, and stop with your facial love affair with your rectum. First go look up your facts, it would be a first step in that monumental effort.

[Fun Luvr]

JjBirdBrain again illustrates his lack of understanding English grammar. RamDavidson64 stated "95% of people who are at risk of being hospitalized from covid are fully vaccinated." JjBB says "Just a couple of statistics which are different from your 95% claim." and uses five paragraphs to describe the percentage of people hospitalized who are not vaccinated. It appears he thinks everyone who is at risk of being hospitalized has actually been hospitalized. His numbers don't address the statement made by RD64.

According to the CDC website, "Some people may be at higher risk of severe illness. This includes older adults (65 years and older) and people of any age with serious underlying medical conditions." They don't mention hospitalization, but probably people with a severe illness will be hospitalized. They also state that 95% of those 65 and over have one shot of the vaccine, 90.28% of those 65 to 74 and 84.75% of those 75 and up are fully vaccinated. I can't find any data for those with serious underlying medical conditions. I think RD64 overstated the percentage a little, but in the ballpark.

[JjBee62]

Hahahhahahahha.

And the covid cultist shows his true colors. They always do. Grossly misinformed, or just lacking logic. Emotional thinking really is a bee-otch.

You're still working hard to be an idiot I see. Got to do what you're good at.

How many people have died in the past 2 years from:

1. Ebola - 61.

2. AIDS -. About 1.4 million.

3. COVID - 5 million.

How do you avoid catching:

1. Ebola. Don't visit a place where there is a current outbreak.

2. AIDS. Don't be an IV drug user. If you are an IV drug user, always use a clean needle. Don't let men fuck you in the ass. If you insist on letting men fuck you in the ass, make them use a condom.

3. Covid. Other than complete isolation from all other people there is no known way to prevent being infected with Covid. Every measure only reduces the risk. None of them remove the risk.

I don't expect you to understand that, because you continuously demonstrate you lack the capacity to understand anything. If they ever give out an "Idiot of ISG" award I'm sure you'll get the recognition you deserve.