Stupid shit in Medellin

[Huacho]

No, I actually meant continuously, incessantly, without pause, rather than repetitively.

Yeah well that ain't accurate because no one posts without pause. You'd like to be right here, because Elvis is quite a prolific poster, but you're not right. Continuous and incessant aren't the same thing. Very few things are actually continuous and internet chat postings certainly aren't.

[JohnnyWalker55]

Are you talking about this bit?

"what they can't do anymore is prevent transmission. So if you're going home to somebody who has not been vaccinated, somebody who can't get vaccinated. I would suggest you wear a mask in a public indoor setting," Walensky stated.

If you can find someone who can read, they can explain to you that she did not say "the vaccine has 0% effect on transmission. " She said something that has been known at least since June and suspected even earlier. She alluded to something which has been discussed here. If this site supported the use of crayons I would put it in terms you possibly could understand. Unfortunately, I'm stuck with using words and you've already proven such advanced communication techniques are beyond your capacity.

Let's start with another thing the CDC Director said in the same interview:

"Our vaccines are working exceptionally well. They continue to work well for Delta with regard to severe illness and death. They prevent it," Walensky said.

Preventing severe illness and death is kind of important, at least to those of us who aren't already brain dead.

Back to whether or not vaccines reduce transmission. I use "reduce" because contrary to what you and the other brainless twats insist on, at no time was any vaccine promoted as being 100% effective and continuing to be 100% effective for life against any and all possible new variants. That's why they do studies, instead of just quote mining to find things to support their twisted, childish fantasies.

We knew in June that the original vaccines were less effective at preventing infection from the Delta variant. We know now the original vaccines are even less effective at preventing infection from the Omicron variant. However, we also know the vaccines are still very effective at preventing severe illness and death..

Keep clinging to the orwellian goal post changing from the cdc aka pfizers main mouthpiece.

You know what tells you it does nothing to reduce transmission, absolutely nothing?

Record cases in every western country, but it's funny more people are vaccinated than ever before.

And the vaccinated have to wear masks inside again.

Doesn't matter if you're boosted even here in Colombia.

It's like July 2020 all over again because people are obedient to unelected rule makers.

It wouldn't surprise me if you were a cuckold, since you like bending over so much for your "superiors".

But yes keep coping and projecting onto the unvaccinated.

[JustTK]

Thing with this lunatic Huacho is he is saying that if you are unvaccinated you are an asshole. The CDC estimates that half the country has had Covid and it is growing by the day. Huacho has sucked down so much libtard paranoia he thinks natural immunity does not count. I hope he does not believe me because I rather like the idea of him staying in a bunker.

To me, the pandemic is over, and it is time to start to rationally call out who got it right and who got it wrong and what we do next.

Yes, he has drunk a good measure of Kool-aid, as have many people in the world, and a good few here. It is not surprising though. Many educated and middle class people have been brought up as political and cultural conservatists. They still beleive what government tells them. This is why conservative governments rule vast swathes of the western world. Bcos sheeple drink the Kool-aid and are unable to fact from fiction, narratives constructed to push political aims. And the way governments have acted during this pandemic. I am not sure if there is any way back from it TBH. The lies they have told people, the false science they have all clung on to, the authoritarian legislation they have passed thru (mandates, shutting down dissent, fines, one for them-one rule for us), the complete failure of their policies. Simply bcos the science was never on the side. It is hard for me to see a way back to normality from this. There is going to be so much hatred of authority from this (not from me, I always hated them. Hehe).

Some people criticise China, Russia, over authoritarian rule. But the West is equally as bad. Previously they just oppressed other countries, but now they have turned on their own people.

[JjBee62]

I guess you missed the CDC director say last week what "conspiracy theorists" were saying for months.

That the vaccine has a 0% effect on transmission.

But keep projecting and making justifications for the absolute failure of the vaccine.

Yea, it's the unvaxxed. Cultists are hilarious, looking from the outside in.

Are you talking about this bit?

"what they can't do anymore is prevent transmission. So if you're going home to somebody who has not been vaccinated, somebody who can't get vaccinated. I would suggest you wear a mask in a public indoor setting," Walensky stated.

If you can find someone who can read, they can explain to you that she did not say "the vaccine has 0% effect on transmission. " She said something that has been known at least since June and suspected even earlier. She alluded to something which has been discussed here. If this site supported the use of crayons I would put it in terms you possibly could understand. Unfortunately, I'm stuck with using words and you've already proven such advanced communication techniques are beyond your capacity.

Let's start with another thing the CDC Director said in the same interview:

"Our vaccines are working exceptionally well. They continue to work well for Delta with regard to severe illness and death. They prevent it," Walensky said.

Preventing severe illness and death is kind of important, at least to those of us who aren't already brain dead.

Back to whether or not vaccines reduce transmission. I use "reduce" because contrary to what you and the other brainless twats insist on, at no time was any vaccine promoted as being 100% effective and continuing to be 100% effective for life against any and all possible new variants. That's why they do studies, instead of just quote mining to find things to support their twisted, childish fantasies.

We knew in June that the original vaccines were less effective at preventing infection from the Delta variant. We know now the original vaccines are even less effective at preventing infection from the Omicron variant. However, we also know the vaccines are still very effective at preventing severe illness and death.

"If you're going home to someone who hasn't been vaccinated, who can't be vaccinated."

Home. A place where most people spend a great deal of time. If you share a home with someone, particularly someone who is unvaccinated, and one of you becomes infected with Covid, there's a strong possibility the infected person will pass the virus on to others living in the same home. This is because people who live together often spend extended periods of time in close proximity.

Let me explain it with something else you can't understand. Some casinos have an oversized, free slot machine. Everyone gets 1 free play on the machine. If you play once, you're chance of winning is very low. If you play it every 2 seconds for 8 hours per day, your chance of eventually winning approaches 100%.

If you are infected and you walk by someone on the street, your chance of infecting them is low. If you spend hours face to face with them your chance of transmission is much higher. If they are unvaccinated the chance is even higher.

The vaccines do 3 main things.

1. They reduce your risk of becoming infected.

2. They reduce the time you will be infectious if you become infected.

3. They reduce the risk of serious illness and death if you become infected.

[Huacho]

I guess you missed the CDC director say last week what "conspiracy theorists" were saying for months. That the vaccine has a 0% effect on transmission.

But of course you provide no source for this, probably because it isn't true.

https://www.reuters.com/article/fact...-idUSL1N2PB2WH

[JohnnyWalker55]

And if I want to avoid most of that, I can walk. But I can't avoid unvaccinated assholes travelling and infecting people. That's the difference. I don't have to go a lot of places but I have to go to the grocery store and you unvaccinated and / or unmasked assholes increase my risk. I get that since you're assholes, you don't understand and / or don't care. You're still a bunch of selfish, ignorant, poorly educated assholes.

I guess you missed the CDC director say last week what "conspiracy theorists" were saying for months.

That the vaccine has a 0% effect on transmission.

But keep projecting and making justifications for the absolute failure of the vaccine.

Yea, it's the unvaxxed. Cultists are hilarious, looking from the outside in.

[JohnnyWalker55]

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

5,557,737 Deaths out of 328,774,268 CoVid cases is: 1.69% Or more than 3 times the number you are using.

Another self righteous, "It's a plague!" Simpleton confusing CFR with IFR.

People like this are the ones screeching for more lockdowns and blaming "antivaxxers" for new variants.

[JjBee62]

No, I understood the first time. And I don't remember writing about not informing the hotel. Where did I write that?

The argument that is somehow trying to be made here is that SARS-CoV-2 is is a far more lethal virus than Ebola which is ridiculous.

If I had Ebola and rang up the Colombian health authorities to tell them that I can fucking guarantee you that it would trigger a massive emergency response with military coming to my location to roadblock the streets around my building and to isolate EVERYONE who I may have come in contact with.

It would make international news. It would be a huge problem, mostly for me since I would probably be dead in 72 hours.

COVID is a widespread, airborne virus that causes death in less than half a percent of those who contract it. So far it is LESS deadly than the 1918 H1N1 Influenza Pandemic.

As I wrote before you wouldn't choose Ebola over COVID and neither would anyone else. No one chooses their diseases but we all acknowledge the truly dangerous from the dangerous only if a series of circumstances happen to line up in a way for bad luck to occur. Again, please show me the stats regarding women under 30 dying of COVID.

You know COVID is highly survivable and the death toll is due to it affecting 1 billion humans and NOT killing 995,000,000 million of them.

I've made several trips to Colombia since late 2019 and I'm not dead or have gotten sick and neither have any of the young ladies whom I've kept company with (I would have gotten plenty of RFM if that had happened, believe me).

If you can point out the Colombian law that says "if you test positive for COVID-19 you must not be in physical contact with another human being or else you will be permanently banned from Colombia" that would be helpful (direct link please to a Colombian government webpage)..

Decided to go all in with the stupid responses, didn't you? Excellent use of hyperbole, if using hyperbole was a good thing that is. Also fantastic job of failing to understand anything.

I never said you said you wouldn't inform the hotel. To the best of my recollection you didn't state whether or not you would inform the hotel.

No, the argument being made here isn't that SARS-CoV-2 is a more lethal virus than Ebola. That you think anyone said that is ridiculous. What I said is that Ebola is not something you are going to test positive for in Colombia. Widespread Ebola testing is not available in Colombia, because there has never been a case of Ebola in Colombia. Unless, after testing positive for Covid you decide to take a girl to Sierra Leone, you won't get Ebola and she won't get Ebola.

If you had Ebola, why would you inform the Colombian authorities? Your ass would be in west Africa and the Colombian authorities wouldn't give a shit.

Covid is less deadly than the 1918 epidemic. Has anyone informed you that medical technology and knowledge has progressed somewhat in the past 100 years?

There's no need to show you the stats for women dying of Covid under 30. Nobody said women under 30 are a high risk group. Someone at some point has explained to you how babies are made? I'm asking because you don't seem to grasp the idea of living ancestors, who are often much older than 30. Often those living ancestors, who are much older than 30 live with their descendants, who may be under 30. The same descendants who you want to infect with Covid.

I do know that most people survive Covid. I know most people survive car accidents, but I don't go out and deliberately cause car accidents because most people survive. What you don't seem to know is that Covid frequently has long term effects. Two of my friends were recently complaining about problems since having COVID. One can't drink caffeine beverages. Sends her pulse skyrocketing. The other one is complaining of frequent dizzy spells. Both are in their late 30's. They call it "long Covid" and it's very common.

I never mentioned your probability of getting sick. You asked the question about if you test positive. You could have made 400 trips and seen 3,000 women without testing positive. If you don't test positive, you can just get on the plane and fly back home.

I can't point out a Colombian law which contains your quote. Sorry, but they write laws in Colombia in Spanish. If I could find the news story, there was at least one tourist banished from Bogota, during the brief period when a 14 day quarantine was required to enter. There are also stories noting that foreigners attending parties during the shutdown would be expelled.

If you want answers to your questions, when you get tested, ask the testing location. I'm sure they can provide you with quarantine information.

Your last bit of stupidity is delightful. In a completely clueless way. Nobody said people get escorted to the Airport for inviting a woman to his apartment. Was that intentionally moronic, or are you suffering from a chronic cognitive difficulty?

If you report to the hotel that you tested positive for Covid, and then start having girls come to your room, the hotel may inform the police. Not because you're inviting girls over, because you tested positive and are supposed to be quarantined. If that happens what happens to you depends on the police, the Ministry of Salud and the Migration department.

Continue with your quest towards stupidity. I'm taking a break from explaining simple things to clueless fuckstains.

[Elvis 2008]

Great interview. Espec the latter half. Elvis will love it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ik6cxFBbBw

JustTK,

I finally got to finish watching it. I admire this doctor's courage. It looks like he is up to date on things even mentioned he was wrong.

I will say what has been shocking to me here lately has how many people still think they need to get vaccinated if they have natural immunity. This doctor did not touch on that in his very rational discussion of who should get vaccinated and who should not.

If you have had Covid and have antibodies, you should not get vaccinated. I do not even know why this is a thing. So while I like his menu, that should be the first qualifier and he did not mention that.

Thing with this lunatic Huacho is he is saying that if you are unvaccinated you are an asshole. The CDC estimates that half the country has had Covid and it is growing by the day. Huacho has sucked down so much libtard paranoia he thinks natural immunity does not count. I hope he does not believe me because I rather like the idea of him staying in a bunker.

To me, the pandemic is over, and it is time to start to rationally call out who got it right and who got it wrong and what we do next.

If you get a chance, watch or listen to this: https://open.spotify.com/episode/0aZte37vtFTkYT7b0b04Qz.

I actually like him better than Dr. Malone but both are fantastic. These guys really, really know their stuff, and these people have put their asses on the line and IMO have been more right than anyone.

I have not heard anyone explain treatment better than Dr. Malone, and I think the reason he is controversial is that he demystifies the paranoia around Covid.

[JjBee62]

A fake card would have to work twice, once at airport check and again at Colombia passport control. Your home country could impose a stiff fine and a place of shame on the no fly list. Pass the popcorn and let's watch the show. Some may have heard the breaking news about recently deported tennis pro Djokovic. He is banned from entering Australia for three years.

What's your favorite? I really like the sweet and salty kettle corn, but the cheese flavored is good too. Bonus! Colombianas love popcorn.

The best part of the show will be when they all start crying about being stuck at home.

[JjBee62]

You mean 'continually,' not 'continuously.'

No, I actually meant continuously, incessantly, without pause, rather than repetitively.

[Elvis 2008]

Whereas you are completely and demonstrably innumerate and can't even do basic arithmetic, as has been shown umpteen times on this thread. Hey Elvis, real quick, what's 8 times 7?

Yeah, I do not do Democratic math. 1.5 % death rate from Covid? LOL.

Here is more Democratic math: https://nypost.com/2021/09/17/bill-m...-19-reporting/.

"The question was, 'What do you think the chances are that you would have to go to the hospital if you got COVID?' And Democrats thought that was, way higher than Republicans," Maher said. "The answer is between 1 percent and 5 percent. "

He said 41 percent of Democrats thought it was over 50 percent, while 28 percent thought it was between 20 percent and 49 percent of patients ending up in the hospital.

"Seventy percent of Democrats thought it was way, way, way higher than it really was," Maher added. "Liberal media has to take a little responsibility for that. For scaring the s out of people."

And that was before omicron.

You know Haucho maybe you can save some money and bunker up with Paulie or maybe not. The two of you might feed off each other and turn into even worse paranoid preppers than you already are.

[JjBee62]

LOL. Facts Gene? Where the hell were you when JJBee had an embolic event and no anticoagulants were given?

And JJBee is still arguing for the vaccine. So tell me doctor, is it well known that the vaccine causes embolic events as well?

And maybe you can tell me why the vaccine is being mandated on people with prior infection seeing as how you know all about the standard of care especially those with prior embolic events.

Or maybe you can just keep kissing the government's ass while it artificially inflates Covid numbers and ignore all the mayhem the vaccines are causing.

Where were you when I had an embolic event? Where was I? It amazes me how you continue to claim to know more about my health than I, or any of my doctors? For example, how do you know no anticoagulant was given?

Since you're the world's foremost expert on my health, tell me what the neurologist initially concluded after reviewing my MRI. Then you can tell us what revisions he made after my follow up appointment. Let's hear it.

No?

Let's move on to the vaccine causing embolic events. Primarily, that would be the AstraZeneca vaccine, and the numbers are truly horrifying.

As of November 427 recipients of the AstraZeneca vaccine had developed blood clots. That's 427 instances out of over 25 million doses. Almost all of the reported events were in women aged 50 or younger.

Since I'm not a woman, not aged 50 or younger and didn't receive either the AstraZeneca or the J&J vaccine, the embolic event I didn't have, if it existed anywhere outside of your feeble mind, probably couldn't have been blamed on any vaccine. Add in that almost all of the potentially vaccine induced embolic events occurred within 2 weeks of vaccination, and your idiotic assumption becomes even more idiotic.

[Elvis 2008]

I also posted here before that I don't care if the vaccine is effective or not (it is a valid intervention), or who makes a profit from it, or any other theoretical ulterior motives. Unless you are some fringe conspiracy theorist who believes the vaccine does more harm than good, then for the purposes of this board, it doesn't' matter. I am here to fuck, lick and get sucked, and maybe spread a little love while doing it. I've had two vaccine shots and a booster. Before that, I went to a Covid party very early on in this morass and intentionally got infected, and it worked. Right now I am the prototype for the most immune you can possibly be to Covid and its variants.

You are smug as hell and then you make two bird brained decisions. Why did you purposely get infected with a more virulent strain of Covid early on and then claimed "it worked"? Your getting sick is something to brag about? And why would you be dumb enough to get vaccinated 3 X after you have natural immunity?

And you worked for an insurance company that sold insurance and thinks that makes your opinion somehow better? Unreal. You should have read this thread and listened a little more.

[MarquisdeSade1]

So Gene, the problem was we did not pay Moderna and Pfizer enough money for the vaccines?

And Gene, if the vaccines were so fucking great, why were there 50% more deaths in 2021 than 2020 in the USA?

https://amgreatness.com/2022/01/16/c...-conspiracies/