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05-13-22 16:09 #4264
Posts: 1775Originally Posted by Nounce [View Original Post]
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05-13-22 15:18 #4263
Posts: 2923Originally Posted by JustTK [View Original Post]
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05-13-22 05:09 #4262
Posts: 46That cuts both ways
Originally Posted by Nounce [View Original Post]
As before I welcome the discussion because I enjoy listening to different perspectives.
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05-13-22 01:55 #4261
Posts: 1775Originally Posted by Huacho [View Original Post]
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05-13-22 01:53 #4260
Posts: 1775Originally Posted by ChuchoLoco [View Original Post]
And yes, there is a difference between someone w a dick and someone without. Just as there is a difference between someone with a tattoo or ears pierced and someone without.
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05-13-22 01:32 #4259
Posts: 5448Originally Posted by JustTK [View Original Post]
The weakness in your argument (besides the obvious one that it's coming from you, and you're consistently bad at putting forth robust arguments), is it's completely undefined.
By your (lack of) reasoning, anyone who is prescribed hormone therapy is already the gender aligned with those particular hormones. If only you had learned to use Google.
Estrogen therapy is an option to treat men with schizophrenia. Hormone therapy is used as part of the treatment for prostate cancer. Testosterone is used to treat low sex drive in women. There are other uses.
A man taking estrogen as part of his prostate cancer treatment may experience breast growth. A woman treating low libido with Testosterone may grow facial hair or experience male pattern baldness.
It gets worse, for you.
There are many different definitions of gender. You're saying I'm a man because I feel like a man (does that make you a child because you feel children? But there are many different areas, legal and medical, which come into play.
Legally, in most places, until someone wins a legal challenge to change their gender, they are legally the gender assigned at birth.
This is particularly troublesome in the rare case of, for example, a child who is identified as male, due to an oversized clitoris and incomplete sexual development. Is that person male? Female? She will be socialized ad a male, treated as a male and probably identify as male, at least until puberty. She might feel as if she's male, solely due to socialization. Had gender been correctly identified at birth, would she reach puberty feeling female? Either way, you have a female, legally identified as male, who may self identify as either male of female (the same happens rarely with boys registered as girls because of incomplete sexual development).
If either instance eventually results in a doctor prescribing hormones to promote sexual development, you have all of these combinations:
1. A male, who identifies as male, legally classified as female, receiving hormones which causes breast growth.
2. A male, who identifies as female, legally classified as a female, receiving hormones which cause breast growth.
3. A female, who identifies as female, legally classified as male, receiving hormones which inhibit breast growth.
4. A female, who identifies as male, legally classified as male, receiving hormones which inhibit breast growth.
That's just for starters. It gets really complicated if you dig a bit deeper.
Continuing with the legal aspect, many situations require the completion of certain processes in the transition from one gender to another, before the person can be recognized as being the other gender. As Nounce pointed out, if just saying "I feel like a girl" defines gender, you're going to have a bunch of high school boys walking around naked with erections in girl's locker rooms (when you get done jerking off over that visual, read on).
In case you are still unaware, a locker room probably contains toilets, but it is not the same as a public bathroom. It has lockers (hence the name) where people can store their clothes and change to or from athletic apparel. There are also shower facilities. It's quite common to see naked people in locker rooms.
The medical issues of gender identification are numerous, involving sexual organs, chromosomes and hormones.
In part of this I agree with you. What a person's gender is is almost never of any concern to me.
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05-12-22 23:22 #4258
Posts: 406There is a difference
Originally Posted by JustTK [View Original Post]
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05-12-22 23:16 #4257
Posts: 1775Originally Posted by Nounce [View Original Post]
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05-12-22 23:08 #4256
Posts: 687Originally Posted by JustTK [View Original Post]
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05-12-22 20:34 #4255
Posts: 2923Originally Posted by JustTK [View Original Post]
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05-12-22 18:35 #4254
Posts: 1775Originally Posted by Huacho [View Original Post]
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05-12-22 18:32 #4253
Posts: 1775Originally Posted by Nounce [View Original Post]
What is it your feeling, Nounce? Hehe.
Ok, I will play along. At this point in my life, my inclination tells me no. BUt since the siutation has never arisen, least of all recently, I cannot say for sure.
Glad that you at least wrote "women". Much would come down to whether I fancied her or not. I only fancy chicks and I just find it difficult to imagine that I would fancy her if she had a dick. But maybe I would do it as a dare. When I was a lot younger I used to have a list of "10 things to do before I die". I don't remember what they all were, but I ticked them all off, so maybe I could add another one. But I doubt it would be a regular fetish. I had a BJ on Soi 6 one time from a trans. But never ventured to find out if she had a dick.
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05-12-22 15:08 #4252
Posts: 2923The feeling is mutual
Originally Posted by JustTK [View Original Post]
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05-12-22 14:52 #4251
Posts: 687Originally Posted by JustTK [View Original Post]
I am truly sorry about your extreme ignorance regarding this subject, and I can't specify a particular doctor, but this happens with regularity.
https://my.clevelandclinic.org/healt...ormone-therapy
https://transcare.ucsf.edu/guideline...ormone-therapy
https://mydoctor.kaiserpermanente.or...regions%2Fncal
That last one says "we can prescribe," so actual Kaiser doctors are doing this. Oh so sorry I can't point to Dr. Jones or Dr. Smith specifically. So, while I'm not saying any of this is a GOOD thing, it's definitely a thing. And you continue to be consistently wrong in virtually everything you post.
You're apparently completely ignorant about both male and female hormones. Women already have estrogen and more estrogen won't make their tits bigger. But guess what? Biological women transitioning into being "men" take male hormones.
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05-12-22 14:38 #4250
Posts: 1775Originally Posted by Elvis2008 [View Original Post]
MdS, Huacho, any other ignorant consevatves out there. Can you just try this exercise for me please:- I want you to think for a momnet about your inner self. What makes you a man. Are you a man? If the answer is affirmative, what is it that makes you think you are a man? Is it bcos a doctor told your parents you were a boy at birth? Is it bcos you happen to have a dick? Is it bcos you had your blood tested and you read that you have XY chromosomes? I suspect one or more of these might help, but I doubt any is the main reason. For example, imagine now that you did not have a dick. Everything else is the same, just you happen not to have a dick. Would you feel any less like a man? I very much doubt it. You feel like a man bcos you are a man. Same would be if you were born with breasts or a pussy. It would be the same you inside, saying that your a man.