Stupid shit in Medellin

[JjBee62]

That says something, but that says nothing. Do they generally know the people they are attacked by? Are people that are not in the LGBT community committing these violent crimes against trans or is is people from the LGBT community doing it? Why are they doing it? Is it because they just do not like the people or they have been deceived or maybe even had a crime committed against them by the trans person.

There are too many contributing factors, whereas the statement tries to get you to believe trans people are just walking down the street minding their own business and some stranger violently attacks them. The most abuse occurs in lesbian relationships, but if I just said lesbians are often violently attacked, it is not telling you they tend to be abused by their own mates and leads you to believe someone outside of their personal circle is doing the abusing or attacking. So are these trans having violence done to them purely because they are trans or is it for other reasons, and by whom?

That gets complicated. Here's a place to start:

https://www.fbi.gov/news/press-relea...ime-statistics

To get some perspective, let's roll the calendar back about 65-70 years.

Today the hot equal rights issue is for trans people. That's why any of us are discussing this. Back in the 50's and early 60's, the big equal rights issue was for blacks. Same issue, different group who felt the laws didn't treat them equally and fairly.

You may have learned, during that time, some black people were the victims of violence. Some claimed they were discriminated against. Some claimed that segregation laws were wrong. Many white people argued that black people needed to be segregated, that they couldn't be allowed to integrate with whites. And I'm sure there were some who questioned whether or not the black on black crime wasn't more important than a few friendly lynchings.

Just something to consider.

[JjBee62]

Only a thrid type? Why not a 4th type. One for trans men, one for trans women. And while we are at it, what about one for homosexuals and another for lesbians. And another 2 for ex-convicts. Men and women. How about one for scary black people. One for terrorist Muslims. The whole world is going to be turned in to a huge allotment of bathrooms for differetn monority groups that we do not like.

Many places already have a third type, a large private bathroom for families or for people who need assistance.

I've just never understood the bathroom panic, but I've heard the same "logic" applied to different groups throughout my life. One of the hazards of growing up where racism and bigotry are considered to be virtues.

It all begins with "they're not like us."

"You have to watch out for the 'colored'. They're not like us."

"You can't go to church with him. He's Catholic and they're not like us."

"Don't talk to those men. They're homosexuals and they're not like us."

"Your friend can't spend the night. He's Amish and they're not like us."

"Those men are Jewish. They're not like us."

Now it's "they're Democrat / Republican. They're not like us.

Pick a label and someone is telling us "be afraid. They're not like us."

If someone is threatening me, the color of their skin, religion, ethnicity, sexual orientation, immigration status or gender identity doesn't matter. I'm not thinking "he won't hurt me because he's a straight, white Protestant from the midwest." I'm certainly not thinking "this is serious because that guy is wearing lipstick. " A threat is a threat, regardless of how you label the person.

The threat doesn't come from the groups people want you to label. It comes from individuals and from the people who want you to put labels on everyone.

[DontSayMuch]

Yep. Good old fashioned 8 transvestite / transsexual robbing crew. Now if one of the victims would have knocked the shit out of one of these guys for trying to pick pocket them that would have been counted in the stats as violence against a trans.

https://www.h13n.com/ocho-mujeres-tr...-hurto/108410/.

I also wish that the criminals received karmic justice. But do you kinda see how this anecdotal evidence doesn't refute the point that trans people aren't more violent than the rest of society? It would be like showing a video of a chicken beating up a hawk and generalizing that chickens are the real avian aggressors.

I'll link to the video of that happening because it's kinda funny. (No animals were really hurt).

Actually I'm not sure if I'll run a foul (LOL) if I post that kinda video so if anyone wants to see it just google:

Chicken beats an Eagle.

[DontSayMuch]

That says something, but that says nothing. Do they generally know the people they are attacked by? Are people that are not in the LGBT community committing these violent crimes against trans or is is people from the LGBT community doing it? Why are they doing it? Is it because they just do not like the people or they have been deceived or maybe even had a crime committed against them by the trans person.

There are too many contributing factors, whereas the statement tries to get you to believe trans people are just walking down the street minding their own business and some stranger violently attacks them. The most abuse occurs in lesbian relationships, but if I just said lesbians are often violently attacked, it is not telling you they tend to be abused by their own mates and leads you to believe someone outside of their personal circle is doing the abusing or attacking. So are these trans having violence done to them purely because they are trans or is it for other reasons, and by whom?

It could be that the violent offenders of trans people are from the LGBT community, but I don't see much evidence of that. That's not saying there isn't any, I just haven't seen it. I look forward to you supplying evidence and I will read any peer reviewed study you link.

The point I was putting emphasis on was that trans people are not more prone to violence than the rest of the public.

[Huacho]

And where were you when I was out fucking these women? Locked up in your house scared shitless of Covid. Why would I or anyone care what a cheap, drug taking, beer swilling, gutter dwelling coward thinks? You do not pay women money. You pay them with glue.

Webster's does not have to define loser in the dictionary. They can just show a picture of your face.

Glue? And I smoke pot so if that makes me a drug taker then so be it. Gutter? I think that's where you found the putas you 'fell in love' with. I bet your woman sticks her finger down her throat after every sex session with you.

Glue. Ja ja ja. No idea where that came from. But you can just continue to be morbidly obese and disgusting physically and I'll just, you know, get way more and better pussy than you do. And when I do pay for it, I will know what I am paying for. You find expensive hookers and think they like you. I find cheap hookers and don't care. I think you forget sometimes we've actually met, and so I know for sure how full of shit you are.

[GeneHickman]

Only people raised in the blinkered world of USA mainstream media would say such a obviously fallacious thing. The corrcet answer is "the Republicans are one of the parties of the rich ".

An astute observation, and this has been true for decades now. The last effort to torpedo this might have been Ross Perot and he was rich too! LOL.

[Nounce]

DF has taste...

My comment is not about his taste or he is wrong about Colombia.

...
The whole thing about the best sex was this. If you found a woman who could stop traffic, was great in bed, really nice, and totally devoted to you, do you think it is possible you would not stray? It was not an appropriate question to ask of men who hang out in the slums. That was my bad.

I think the main difference is you want exclusivity and something more than physical sex. Most mongers are happier with sharing and just physical sex. Thanks for sharing.

[JustTK]

anyone who cannot see that the Republicans are the party of the rich is suffering from a pretty severe case of rectocranial insertion.

Only people raised in the blinkered world of USA mainstream media would say such a obviously fallacious thing. The corrcet answer is "the Republicans are one of the parties of the rich ".

[Elvis 2008]

There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that you have to spend money to get women. No doubt whatsoever at all.

And where were you when I was out fucking these women? Locked up in your house scared shitless of Covid. Why would I or anyone care what a cheap, drug taking, beer swilling, gutter dwelling coward thinks? You do not pay women money. You pay them with glue.

Webster's does not have to define loser in the dictionary. They can just show a picture of your face.

[Mr Enternational]

That says something, but that says nothing. Do they generally know the people they are attacked by? Are people that are not in the LGBT community committing these violent crimes against trans or is is people from the LGBT community doing it? Why are they doing it? Is it because they just do not like the people or they have been deceived or maybe even had a crime committed against them by the trans person.

Yep. Good old fashioned 8 transvestite / transsexual robbing crew. Now if one of the victims would have knocked the shit out of one of these guys for trying to pick pocket them that would have been counted in the stats as violence against a trans.

https://www.h13n.com/ocho-mujeres-tr...-hurto/108410/

[Mr Enternational]

"Transgender people over four times more likely than cisgender people to be victims of violent crime".

That says something, but that says nothing. Do they generally know the people they are attacked by? Are people that are not in the LGBT community committing these violent crimes against trans or is is people from the LGBT community doing it? Why are they doing it? Is it because they just do not like the people or they have been deceived or maybe even had a crime committed against them by the trans person.

There are too many contributing factors, whereas the statement tries to get you to believe trans people are just walking down the street minding their own business and some stranger violently attacks them. The most abuse occurs in lesbian relationships, but if I just said lesbians are often violently attacked, it is not telling you they tend to be abused by their own mates and leads you to believe someone outside of their personal circle is doing the abusing or attacking. So are these trans having violence done to them purely because they are trans or is it for other reasons, and by whom?

[JustTK]

Everywhere there are bathrooms will now be required to have a third type?

Only a thrid type? Why not a 4th type. One for trans men, one for trans women. And while we are at it, what about one for homosexuals and another for lesbians. And another 2 for ex-convicts. Men and women. How about one for scary black people. One for terrorist Muslims. The whole world is going to be turned in to a huge allotment of bathrooms for differetn monority groups that we do not like.

[Huacho]

you have to spend the money to get women

There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that you have to spend money to get women. No doubt whatsoever at all.

[Huacho]

Let's not act like the dems are the saviors of the poor / middle class and the repubs are the party of the rich. This isn't a freshman polysci course at a university. Both parties rob the country blind, both do insider trading, get kick backs from lobbys and contractors, especially this joke of a bill sending 40 bill to Ukraine to be slushed around among oligarchs and used to buy up all the cheap assets in a semi failed state.

The religious angle of the repubs like tom cotton and crew is annoying, but at least they have some moral standards left. The dems are in a race to see who can be the most "progressive" aka discarding any traditional family values be it the nuclear family, gender norms, and all pushing all the minority "oppression" garbage.

What does any of what you just posted have to do with my post you quoted? However, anyone who cannot see that the Republicans are the party of the rich is suffering from a pretty severe case of rectocranial insertion. Hello? Repeated tax cuts at the top of the brackets? Hello? Zero percent capital gains rates? Hello? Regressive taxation of SS and UI? Hello? Hello? Anybody home? Cutting food stamps? Hello?

[DontSayMuch]

I don't want to reply to a post that wasn't directed at me so I'll make one that addresses the topic in a more general way.

There have been trans people throughout history and they have figured out which bathroom and locker room works for them.

It seems that people who are against trans-women going to whatever facility that individual trans-woman wants to go into conveniently forget that if trans-women can't go to the facility of their choice, it also means that trans-men can't go into the facility of their choice.

So it's better to have a bearded trans-man who looks / acts / emotes as a man have to use the women's facilities? That doesn't make any sense to me and a lot of other people. And before anyone raises the impractical and non-real solution of making a dedicated trans bathroom, please think that through. Everywhere there are bathrooms will now be required to have a third type?

As far as trans people committing more violent acts than the general populace, I would really have to see some evidence for that.

I've read a Swedish paper that looks at this and it found =.

"The findings show that transsexual individuals were more likely to be criminal than non-transsexuals of the.

Same birth sex in the first cohort (1973-1988), and no different from their birth sex in the.

Second group (1989-2003)."

The first cohort (group) had hormones and surgery without adequate mental health provisions and the second cohort (group) had hormones and surgery with adequate mental health provisions.

So for the last forty years there hasn't been an increase in criminality from transgender individuals.

The study =.

Cecilia Dhejne, Paul Lichtenstein, Marcus Boman, Anna L. V. Johansson, Niklas.

Långström, Mikael Landéand (2011) Long-Term Follow-Up of Transsexual Persons.

Undergoing Sex Reassignment Surgery: Cohort Study in Sweden.

Now there are a lot of statistics showing violence AGAINST trans people is MUCH higher than average.

I'm going to pick just one from as neutral a site as I can find.

https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.e...press-release/

The study found.

"Transgender people over four times more likely than cisgender people to be victims of violent crime".

I like looking at non-anecdotal evidence. A lot of studies have issues and they can be addressed and scrutinized, but one random person isn't much of an indicator of anything.