Stupid shit in Medellin

[Paulie97]

Here's something on the growing blue / red divide in vaccination status. See attachments. It's very clear who the problem is here, and what their problem is, irrespective of what state they happen to live in.

https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covi...nation-status/

Their heads are implanted up in their colons watching Fox and Newsmax.

[Elvis 2008]

Taking up the head, with few exceptions is your strong red states. Taking the up the tail with very few exceptions is your super leftist states. Has Fox, Newsmax, or any aspiring right wingnuts on Youtube told you this? Have they, or will they ever make you aware of this data? No they are only going to tell you about a few red states up north that are currently experiencing an expected surge due to cold weather and more indoor activity, while skipping the big picture which is most damning to them, their people, and their lies and slanted reporting. Anyway here's three screen shots showing the data. Yea masks, social distancing, and vaccines help a lot. Yes, compliance with the recommendations of virtually every contagious diseases specialist (not opthamologists) has born fruit. Now sing, dance, twist yourselves in knots. This discussion is over as far as I'm concerned.

LOL. There was never a discussion with you. All it takes is to expand the data to show you are full of shit. Here you go douche: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-51235105.

Look at the graphs. Europe is in a massive upswing while SA, and North America, the Middle East, and Asia are down. Why is that douche? A Republican convention in Europe? Europeans quit using masks? And why the down trend in South America after they loosened up?

"I am not answering you Elvis." Well how about answering the data douche?

Look at world wide cases. Despite the vaccine, social distancing, and masks ETC, the TOTAL number of world cases has gone from 84 million at the end of 2020 to 258 million. That is an increase of 174 million so 2021 has more than double the number of cases as 2020, and we are not even done with this year yet. This data is what you and every contagious disease specialist define as "bearing fruit"? You are so fucking stupid you are running around declaring victory when it is clear you do not know what the fuck you are talking about. If you and the contagious disease specialists are proud of these numbers, you should be hung.

So that was the goal of the global lockdowns, a doubling of cases in 2021? Yeesh. We destroyed the world economy for nothing.

Okay, douche, put your money where your mouth is: how many cases will there be in 2022, and what do you define as success? Show everyone how gutless you are and do not answer the question.

[Paulie97]

"Rate of coronavirus (COVID-19) cases in the United States as of November 26,2021, by state (per 100,000 people). ".

https://www.statista.com/statistics/...cans-by-state/

Taking up the head, with few exceptions is your strong red states. Taking the up the tail with very few exceptions is your super leftist states. Has Fox, Newsmax, or any aspiring right wingnuts on Youtube told you this? Have they, or will they ever make you aware of this data? No they are only going to tell you about a few red states up north that are currently experiencing an expected surge due to cold weather and more indoor activity, while skipping the big picture which is most damning to them, their people, and their lies and slanted reporting. Anyway here's three screen shots showing the data. Yea masks, social distancing, and vaccines help a lot. Yes, compliance with the recommendations of virtually every contagious diseases specialist (not opthamologists) has born fruit. Now sing, dance, twist yourselves in knots. This discussion is over as far as I'm concerned.

[Elvis 2008]

You epitomize the saying "figures don't lie, but liars figure". With your fuzzy logic, having more confirmed cases is making progress. I will counter that the reason for the decrease in ratio of deaths to cases is because of medical advancements in treatments and weakening of the virus variants. If the number of cases had stayed the same or decreased, look at how many fewer deaths we would have had this year.

Great post FL! So if the vaccine lived up to its 95% efficacy and seeing as how we are about 60% vaccinated, the number of cases should have gone from about 20 million to about 10 million. Furthermore, as people were vaccinated, the number of cases should have gone down in direct correlation to how many were vaccinated, I. E. Fewer cases in October than March. That did not happen.

And the most vaccinated countries in the world (Israel, Ireland, and Gibraltar) should have seen near complete eradication of the virus. Instead they have all dealt with new severe outbreaks requiring lockdowns.

So what did Fauci and the "scientists" do? The same thing the "scientists" who spoke of global warming did. They changed the name. For global warming, it was "scientists" changing the name to climate change when the earth quit heating up and here the focus was not on percent effectiveness with stopping new cases but preventing death and hospitalization. You are 11 X less likely to die if vaccinated they say.

I do not get that last part because if we have more deaths in 2021 and over half the population is vaccinated and the death rates are higher in 2021, the only way those numbers add up is if the unvaccinated had to deal with a virus like 11 X more potent right?

What we paid for and what we were sold on were the vaccines were 95% effective at preventing new cases. Well, they were not 95 nor 60 nor 35% effective, they were 0% effective. And I do not think you can dismiss the possibility they were negative. The vaccine is supposed to affect the course of the virus. Well, who says it cannot do that in a negative fashion? Gibraltar is 99% vaccinated and they are dealing with an outbreak so bad they had to shut down.

Thing is that the vaccine worked great for the first 3 or so months after it was made available and then it failed. Now it will be interesting to see if that Israeli data showing natural immunity is so much better will hold true in the next few years. If it is, things could be much worse for the vaccinated who were never infected.

Can you imagine if the vaccine manufacturers could be sued though? We paid billions for a vaccine that did not work as advertised. There were no reduction in cases at all and yet the Democratic douches keep falling all over themselves insisting that the vaccine prevents transmission. Unfucking real!

[BlackThought]

https://amgreatness.com/2021/10/26/t...ing-they-hate/

Stop projecting, I don't lie, lying is for sick losers.

Ala Paulie IMing me to avoid MDE so I don't get kidnapped for ransom or held indefinitely to do daily ATM withdrawals.

You said I was caught in lies? Well you're a lying POS because I don't lie.

You "brag" to be a door to door grifter conning senior citizens in veteran communities of their last extra pennnies.

You are scum of the earth and you try to pull down others, sorry dirtbag.

You're cover has been blown, you are a criminal and I'm guessing an Ex-con.

You steal photos from blogs. You dodge and deflect when asked to prove you've Mongered in places you claim by showing stamps on your passport. You claim to have met several ISG mongers, yet nobody can confirm. Who are you fooling? Lolol.

[JustTK]

You epitomize the saying "figures don't lie, but liars figure". With your fuzzy logic, having more confirmed cases is making progress. I will counter that the reason for the decrease in ratio of deaths to cases is because of medical advancements in treatments and weakening of the virus variants.

One cannot even label it as cherry picking, bcos the evidence he presented does not even support his case. Q estupido! As you say, there are so many variables that he just disregards that his claim has more holes than a slice of Gouda. All the arguments you presented, plus greater immunity in the public at large, changes in the process of reporting of cases, changes in attitudes to report, variations in excess deaths. Really, any stat based on case numbers is just so flimsy as to be laughable.

[Paulie97]

SawZonaNorte made another good point, that it's impossible to know how many cases and deaths we would have seen thus far without mitigation measures and the many Americans who have chosen to comply and use masks and social distance. Given what we know about how the disease is spread, plus laboratory studies showing the efficacy of masks, the numbers would surely be much higher. So there's another clear point from SawZonaNorte that Funluvr, in his eagerness to preserve his worldview, chose to ignore.

[Paulie97]

You epitomize the saying "figures don't lie, but liars figure". With your fuzzy logic, having more confirmed cases is making progress. I will counter that the reason for the decrease in ratio of deaths to cases is because of medical advancements in treatments and weakening of the virus variants. If the number of cases had stayed the same or decreased, look at how many fewer deaths we would have had this year. In one respect, having more cases is a good thing because that means more people are becoming immune. But you are probably of the mindset that the only immunization is the shot.

The liar and the fuzzy one here is you, as from the beginning you've opposed all Covid mitigation measures. You've also claimed without proof that US hospitals were cooking Covid numbers to rip off Medicare, implying it's all a hoax. In a word you've bought the whole right wing nut narrative each step of the way and have the t-shirt to prove it.

The poster's logic was clear, as Elvis attempted to downplay the usefulness of mitigation measures by noting the increase in USA Covid deaths in 2021 over 2020. It was then shown that case numbers have also increased. Other variables were indicated, including the fact that the pandemic didn't get going until late March of 2020, plus there has been far more mobility among the population in 2021. As to his final point, red states lead the way in confirmed cases per 100 K population since the start of the pandemic, so you and your other Trump buttboys with your lack of cooperation are a big part of the problem.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/...cans-by-state/

Masks and social distancing work, as does avoiding indoor environments with crowds of people not wearing masks. For after all, it's a respiratory disease passed through aerosols. Duh. Why do you insist on making a fool of yourself avoiding the obvious?

[Fun Luvr]

Good job at cherry-picking meaningless data. You wouldn't be any further off if you cited the USA having had more Covid deaths than has Barbados, as being truly indicative of anything.

You fail to add the following:

USA 2020: approximately 346,687 Covid deaths.

USA 2021 through Nov 26: approximately 439,700 covid deaths.

USA 2020: approximately 20,037,736 confirmed cases.

USA 2021 through Nov. 26: approximately 28,148,237 confirmed cases (which is 1. 40476 times as many cases as there were in 2020).

So now, if you have any common sense, you multiply 1. 40476 by the number of last year's deaths.

Only then can you fairly compare what is this year's 439,700 YTD deaths to the new number, which is 487,012. ...

You epitomize the saying "figures don't lie, but liars figure". With your fuzzy logic, having more confirmed cases is making progress. I will counter that the reason for the decrease in ratio of deaths to cases is because of medical advancements in treatments and weakening of the virus variants. If the number of cases had stayed the same or decreased, look at how many fewer deaths we would have had this year. In one respect, having more cases is a good thing because that means more people are becoming immune. But you are probably of the mindset that the only immunization is the shot.

[Elvis 2008]

You are mis-stating the data about Israel "a few weeks ago" that was so absurdly misunderstood by those many who can't understand simple math.

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/latest-on-c...-study/2352018

Israel recorded the highest number of coronavirus cases per capita over the past week, according to data published Tuesday by Oxford University Press. The country overtook Montenegro and Georgia with an average of 1,013 new daily cases per million people over a week, figures by Our World in Data showed.

What the hell does math have to do with that?

You fail to add the following:

USA 2020: approximately 346,687 Covid deaths.

USA 2021 through Nov 26: approximately 439,700 covid deaths.

USA 2020: approximately 20,037,736 confirmed cases.

USA 2021 through Nov. 26: approximately 28,148,237 confirmed cases (which is 1. 40476 times as many cases as there were in 2020)..

I am not quite sure what your point is. It looks to me like you are a Democratic douche trying to prove me wrong. The irony is your presentation of the data supports the point that I was trying to make namely that vaccines are not that effective. If the vaccine worked, cases and deaths in 2021 should have been down not up.

At the end of the big, multi-faceted equation, the only clear conclusion is that the stupid people will never understand. (which plagues society today much as it has since the beginning of time).

I think what you are trying to say is that if not for "the stupid people" which I guess means Republicans and their noncompliance the pandemic would be over by now.

Thing is that if you are doing forecasting models and do not account for "stupid people" or noncompliance, you yourself are stupid.

So you might want to turn down that MSNBC, get the Washington Post from your face, and try something different like you know writing coherent sentences that actually have a point.

[MarquisdeSade1]

I responded to the Euro twerp for about six months, which was generous of me given that he only spins fallacies and has no ability to engage in genuine debate. I can say the same for Elvis, thus I also for the most part stopped bothering with his posts. But looks like I certainly kicked the beehive and good, as the gang is all here, JustTK, Marquis de Twat, Elvis, Shoo Swede, but where is Pedro Morales? The tool that talks about Big Mac eaters in the states even though Europe is littered with Mickey DS franchises.

But yea Covid is a respiratory illness passed through aerosols thus masks and social distancing hinder the spread, duh. As does staying out of crowded indoors environments full of maskless people, duh. Is amazing all the gymnastics right wing nut media will go through to try and obfuscate these obvious but inconvenient facts. Hey no one is enjoying this pandemic, but do like most of the rest of us, grow a pair and accept it for what it is.

BTW has anyone met any of these guys on the ground in Medellin? I speak of JustTK, Marquis de Twat, Elvis, Shoo Bree or Pedro? De Twat has been caught in some lies so we know he's never been to Colombia. As to the rest, who knows? There's plenty enough information posted in ISG for someone to use to pretend they have been to some of these countries.

https://amgreatness.com/2021/10/26/t...ing-they-hate/

Stop projecting, I don't lie, lying is for sick losers.

Ala Paulie IMing me to avoid MDE so I don't get kidnapped for ransom or held indefinitely to do daily ATM withdrawals.

You said I was caught in lies? Well you're a lying POS because I don't lie.

You "brag" to be a door to door grifter conning senior citizens in veteran communities of their last extra pennnies.

You are scum of the earth and you try to pull down others, sorry dirtbag.

You're cover has been blown, you are a criminal and I'm guessing an Ex-con.

[ShooBree]

I responded to the Euro twerp for about six months, which was generous of me given that he only spins fallacies and has no ability to engage in genuine debate. I can say the same for Elvis, thus I also for the most part stopped bothering with his posts. But looks like I certainly kicked the beehive and good, as the gang is all here, JustTK, Marquis de Twat, Elvis, Shoo Swede, but where is Pedro Morales? The tool that talks about Big Mac eaters in the states even though Europe is littered with Mickey DS franchises.

But yea Covid is a respiratory illness passed through aerosols thus masks and social distancing hinder the spread, duh. As does staying out of crowded indoors environments full of maskless people, duh. Is amazing all the gymnastics right wing nut media will go through to try and obfuscate these obvious but inconvenient facts. Hey no one is enjoying this pandemic, but do like most of the rest of us, grow a pair and accept it for what it is.

BTW has anyone met any of these guys on the ground in Medellin? I speak of JustTK, Marquis de Twat, Elvis, Shoo Bree or Pedro? De Twat has been caught in some lies so we know he's never been to Colombia. As to the rest, who knows? There's plenty enough information posted in ISG for someone to use to pretend they have been to some of these countries.

We all know that Paulie is a compulsive liar and fantasist. He will ignore all the facts presented against his fictitious lies since hes an fact resistant egomaniac and then pretend as if he wasn't disproved for the millionth time.

We all know that Paulie is still hiding in the basement, terrified of Covid-19. He's a loser that never travelled anywhere and even less contributed with anything of value to this forum.

[Paulie97]

You are mis-stating the data about Israel "a few weeks ago" that was so absurdly misunderstood by those many who can't understand simple math.

Good job at cherry-picking meaningless data. You wouldn't be any further off if you cited the USA having had more Covid deaths than has Barbados, as being truly indicative of anything.

You fail to add the following:

USA 2020: approximately 346,687 Covid deaths.

USA 2021 through Nov 26: approximately 439,700 covid deaths.

USA 2020: approximately 20,037,736 confirmed cases.

USA 2021 through Nov. 26: approximately 28,148,237 confirmed cases (which is 1. 40476 times as many cases as there were in 2020)...

You corrected a series of non-sequiturs from the logical fallacy specialist, Elvis, who spends his days here twisting himself in knots. He's a mediocre tool of right wing nut propaganda and doesn't even know it.

https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/...s/Non-Sequitur

As to your final point, here it is.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/...cans-by-state/

[Paulie97]

Hey Shoe Breezey. You really seem to have a man-crush on Paulie. In your rant you used his name 16 times (unless I missed some others). WoW! You might consider moving on. I don't think he's all that interested.

But I suspect that Elvis and Marquis may be interested.

Oh and as to your last screech of a comment. I've read many posts from Paulie on Medellin and the state of the hobby here. Oddly enough I've never read anything from you. Can you explain that? Have you ever been to Medellin? Can you find it on a map? Can you afford to fly over here?

You know, maybe you should just stick with the Germany FKK Club - Rants and WTF are you talking about and Coronavirus! section. You seem to be winning the contest for biggest jerk over there.

I responded to the Euro twerp for about six months, which was generous of me given that he only spins fallacies and has no ability to engage in genuine debate. I can say the same for Elvis, thus I also for the most part stopped bothering with his posts. But looks like I certainly kicked the beehive and good, as the gang is all here, JustTK, Marquis de Twat, Elvis, Shoo Swede, but where is Pedro Morales? The tool that talks about Big Mac eaters in the states even though Europe is littered with Mickey DS franchises.

But yea Covid is a respiratory illness passed through aerosols thus masks and social distancing hinder the spread, duh. As does staying out of crowded indoors environments full of maskless people, duh. Is amazing all the gymnastics right wing nut media will go through to try and obfuscate these obvious but inconvenient facts. Hey no one is enjoying this pandemic, but do like most of the rest of us, grow a pair and accept it for what it is.

BTW has anyone met any of these guys on the ground in Medellin? I speak of JustTK, Marquis de Twat, Elvis, Shoo Bree or Pedro? De Twat has been caught in some lies so we know he's never been to Colombia. As to the rest, who knows? There's plenty enough information posted in ISG for someone to use to pretend they have been to some of these countries.

[MarquisdeSade1]

Hillary Clinton is one of the smartest people that ever ran for President of the US. So why did she lose? She is unattractive and extremely unlikeable. In American politics smarts can not overcome being generally unattractive and unlikeable.

Does Villany the vagina have a real vagina or a backdoor substitute?

What kind of pus oozing feminist would write on a hooker board that Hillary is the sooper smartest ever ever LMAO are you fucking kidding me.

He lost because he's dumb, like you.

He had the global media at her back 24/7 attacking our Lord and Savior and still lost.

He lost to the most unpopular opponent ever because he's a low IQ mental midget.

Hes never had a real job, he married a redneck from the south, because nobody from Chicago would ever want him.

Does Hillary have XY or XX?

Lets see Bubba got him a job at the Rose Law Firm where he defended a child molester, is that why you admire Hillary?

Other than that, that was just another ghost payroll gig.

Sen from NY LOL look who they have now that low IQ Kirsten G from cow shit to dog shit.

Sec of State under the other guy she lost to Barry Hussein ROTFLMFAO!