Stupid shit in Medellin

[Elvis 2008]

I know another guy is on his 4th Thai wife.

If she is broken and you are broken, by all means hook up,. But there ain't nob ody going to put those Himpty Dumptys back together again.

Pedro,

I was not talking about mongers marrying porn stars but porn stars marrying each other. MDS had the notion that preachers showing up at a porn star convention are out of place. Certainly, the loud mouth judging types are but a number of porn stars are married and Christians.

The concept then is that love like a preacher at a porn convention is out of place here. I disagree. Let me change the word to passion then.

Despite looks and technique, you cannot have a great session without passion. In fact, guys comment in reviews about IOP, the illusion of passion.

So when you have sex, I would say that the pecking order and quality of the session goes: no passion, IOP, affection, real passion, and then passionate love. The higher you go up the passion tree though, the harder the fall can be, and that is why you should look for safeguards and the help of others on the climb up. And if you are at passionate love and she is at IOP, then look out below.

Because guys have fallen, they stay on the lowest level, deny real affection let alone passion is possible (they just want us for our money), and engage in the 3 FS (find them, fuck them, forget them). In the P4P USA world, even in sugaring, I never went higher than affection, and I think had I done so, I would have fallen. I never think women ever went beyond the affection stage and I kept things there.

OTOH, in Latin America, it was different. I regret not thinking I could climb higher. There was like one in 5 or one in 10 sessions where scaling up was possible. How high I do not know but what kept me from doing that was the 3 F attitude where I was certain the next lay was better than the last. In reality, if you find a woman great in the sack, you should probably repeat then seek out the new.

So I was in Bolivia and had a great session with a Paraguayan. She was a nympho, and I was spent after two rounds. The woman was molesting me on the cab to the hotel before we even started. Because I had a 3 F attitude then, it never occurred to me it was anything more than P4P. I handed her money, what we agreed on and taxi fare, and she looked sad. In hindsight, I realize now that she did not ask for money or to leave. She was sad because she wanted to stay. And with this girl, everything was on the table, and I just did not see it. I left so much fucking meat on that bone, and it was all me. I am kicking myself for that still.

In hindsight, she was at the real passion level, and I was not there because I did not think it was possible. I was a 3 F man and the next night I went back to the club and had an average and totally forgettable lay.

So yeah, I think if the goal is here having the most and best sex possible, it is worth talking about how you get that. The idea that real passion is not possible is counterproductive to having the best sex.

[Zeos1]

I saw your first post about the precautions you were taking when visiting Medellin. Now you state that you want to reduce your chances of getting mugged while there. I've got to ask, if you think it's that dangerous in Medellin that chicas will try and slip something into your drink or you will get mugged, why are you even going? Ever hear the saying, if someone thinks they're going to die today, they'll find a way to make it happen?

I'm sure most who have visited or live in Medellin would agree that it's not an abnormally dangerous city. If you visit with the belief you're going to be robbed, (a) you likely will, and (b) you will not enjoy your visit. Just keep your eyes open, don't do something stupid (I. E. , go somewhere you shouldn't) and take any normal precautions you would for your safety and you should be fine. Take cabs or Uber (they're much cheaper than the US) and don't walk around at 2:00 am.

To answer your question, if you're going to a club just about everyone wears jeans and a t-shirt. A few wear polo shirts. If you're dressed for an African safari you'll stick out like a sore thumb.

Don't know what you are comparing it to. It is an abnormally dangerous place compared to where I live. Everyone I know that comes from or lives in Medellin has been the victim of some sort of robbery or violent crime. Almost no one I know in my home town has ever been a victim of a similar crime.

[Paulie97]

I saw your first post about the precautions you were taking when visiting Medellin. Now you state that you want to reduce your chances of getting mugged while there. I've got to ask, if you think it's that dangerous in Medellin that chicas will try and slip something into your drink or you will get mugged, why are you even going? Ever hear the saying, if someone thinks they're going to die today, they'll find a way to make it happen?.

People who are concerned about getting robbed or drugged are typically less likely to have it happen because such will motivate them to do some research and take certain procautions. Those who go around falsely thinking that Medellin is just as safe as any other big city, even though they have much higher violent crime rates than many cities of similar size in the US and Europe, are more likely to let down their guards and get burned. This pseudo religious / esoteric horseshit that what you fear will automatically take place is just that, horseshit, even if you "heard" it somewhere sitting on a barstool.

Why is he going there? Probably because he wants to enjoy some legal prostitution with some hot, friendly Colombian babes at a reasonable prices. He's willing to take some risks and is also willing to take some precautions. You set up dilemmas that don't exist, with no apparent motive aside from acting like an ass online.

P.S. Druggings are pretty common in Medellin, even against locals while they hardly exist in the large US city where I live. Don't leave your drink unattended. If you do mistakenly then it's a throwaway.

[Jay0940]

The alternative attire for me would be what I would wear hiking in a warm climate. Thin synthetic khakis plus a thin synthetic button down shirt. Sweat dries very easily and provides good coverage from sun. But I look white AF, especially with a wide brimmed hat. Imagine the modern version of what British dudes would wear going on safari. I wore that once when visiting a Korean AAMP in the Bay Area whom I'd known for a long time and she said quite directly "you look like a white guy today."

T-shirts and jeans made from cotton don't deal with sweat well but maybe they blend in and reduce my chances of getting mugged.

I saw your first post about the precautions you were taking when visiting Medellin. Now you state that you want to reduce your chances of getting mugged while there. I've got to ask, if you think it's that dangerous in Medellin that chicas will try and slip something into your drink or you will get mugged, why are you even going? Ever hear the saying, if someone thinks they're going to die today, they'll find a way to make it happen?

I'm sure most who have visited or live in Medellin would agree that it's not an abnormally dangerous city. If you visit with the belief you're going to be robbed, (a) you likely will, and (b) you will not enjoy your visit. Just keep your eyes open, don't do something stupid (I. E. , go somewhere you shouldn't) and take any normal precautions you would for your safety and you should be fine. Take cabs or Uber (they're much cheaper than the US) and don't walk around at 2:00 am.

To answer your question, if you're going to a club just about everyone wears jeans and a t-shirt. A few wear polo shirts. If you're dressed for an African safari you'll stick out like a sore thumb.

[PedroMorales]

Why do so many porn stars eventually get married if love sex is not the best there is?

A then elderly friend of mine had been around colourful characters all his life. Getting on, he took a part time job driving a hooker about. She advertised a competitive base price but, once they saw her botox and boobs jobs, mongers would pay more and more for extras. First thing she told him was you are here to drive and no more, none of your shit.

He ended up doing other jobs for her. Take toys to her child who was in care. She had a 2 br apartment and one bed room was stuck with wtf toys.

She knew all the tricks, eg red condoms for period time.

The one day, she had him drive her several hundred km to visit her be f who was ding a long stretch in a medium security prison. Big ugly fucker, shook his hand and checked him out, just wanted to make sure all her did was drive.

I know another guy is on his 4th Thai wife.

If she is broken and you are broken, by all means hook up,. But there ain't nob ody going to put those Himpty Dumptys back together again.

[MarquisdeSade1]

Why do so many porn stars eventually get married if love sex is not the best there is?

And you are totally happy with how it is right now? Your friends, family, and kids have all accepted how you are and are okay with you seeing multiple women? You do not hide it from anyone and do not care what anyone else thinks? LOL. Who the fuck do you think you are talking to?

I think you are absolutely completely bonkers, take your damn meds bro, and if you don't have any, get some already LMAO.

This is a website to find pussy not something to fill that void in your "heart" LOL.

And all the best LOL.

[Paulie97]

I've told this story before here and I am not sure why it bears repeating but here goes. She put scope in my drink in my hotel room. I instantly tasted the bitterness and spit it back into the glass. I looked at her straight in the eyes and told her to drink it. She smiled and said no. We fucked and I sent her home without further incident. I continued to see her individually, and including three-ways and four-ways, usually with other girls on my List but not always. She made it onto my Top Ten List, where she remains to this day. Fucked her two days ago.

This guy's silly stories know no end. No one is this stupid, especially not someone as Osteotwot who claims to be a physician with 100's of doctors and pharmacists under his supervision. He is not who and what he claims to be, and his stories have no credibility.

[Elvis 2008]

Lots of losers hook up with hookers, who like the Pretty Woman trip until the arguments start over money.

Sure, Gere and Roberts would have broken up in a few months had they really ever dated.

I found the "hooker with the heart of gold" character complete bullshit. I have not seen anything like that in real life. I liked Rebecca De Mornay's portrayal of a hooker in Risky Business. That was more realistic. She was who she was, and she sucked every $ out of the situation she could and in the end made up with her pimp.

Life moves on and hookers have lost whatever romance they may have had for me. I like their sob sob stories but they are all crushed dolls, too broken to get involved with. I would never (again) invite a hooker to my place lest stuff goes missing or I get my throat cut.

Seeking / SA broke down the wall of shame with regards to women taking money for sex. Some guys here have this idea that there is this huge canyon separating pros and non-pros, and the two will never cross. In reality, the separation is like a white line on a highway where women can and do change lanes with ease. If you blink, you could miss said change, and IMO, it is worse in Latin countries.

I have a female friend that says I could not get her friends with my ways. Unbeknownst to her before she even said that, I had one of her friends set up as a sugar baby.

So yeah, by all means, you can put street walkers and go-go girls in one category, but I would be careful about making blanket statements about hos. The first mainstream mention of the hooker among your neighbors was Desperate Housewives in the 90's, and I have been to the hos with suburban homes.

[Elvis 2008]

You are talking like some pornstars I have met at porn conventions that walk around trying to convert people to Jesus Inc.

I have spoken to a few of them, I must say being an ardent atheist, I find them quite insane LOL.

Why do so many porn stars eventually get married if love sex is not the best there is?

I've fucked putas all over the world, I've been married and have had many very hot live-in gfs in my life, and I can say without hesitation the best sex in my life was with putas.
Romantic love is a societal con job on men, I love my kids, some of my family and my friends. Romantic love is for simps, cucks et al.

And you are totally happy with how it is right now? Your friends, family, and kids have all accepted how you are and are okay with you seeing multiple women? You do not hide it from anyone and do not care what anyone else thinks? LOL. Who the fuck do you think you are talking to?

[Elvis 2008]

Yet nobody ever has an answer when I ask what good sex is.

That is why I said memorable sex. It is easier to define.

What does giving all of herself mean?

She is open to every kind of sex that there is and no condoms.

Sounds like you have never been to Brazil.

If you have not been to Brazil I would say you are not interested in the ultimate sex either. But you can not miss what you never had.

I have been there for two weeks and went to multiple cities. It is the best sex in the P4 P world. A few years later, I did sugar baby sex in the USA and it matched and even exceeded Brazil.

Did your girl even ever say that if you fucked someone else it would mess things up?

Yes, and what do you think my reaction would be if she asked, "Is it okay if I fuck someone else?

It seems that Osteo has it right. He is not hiding anything from his girl nor is he trying to be someone he is not in front of her. That is probably why he loves her so much, because he can be comfortable just being himself. If you have to try to be someone that you are not then you probably have the wrong girl. You are trying to convince Osteo to be someone he is not, while his girl has no problem with who he already is.

No, your hero is on a bender right now trying to make up for what he lost. You just do not see the pain he is in.

When I have had a number one SB, I know they are getting offers all the time. When a guy of similar status offers a woman exclusivity and a happy future, you cannot compete with that. You seem to be oblivious to women getting those offers.

Women know that a lot of men do not want to commit to one girl. If they are at a certain stage in their life, they can be okay with it especially if they are getting paid, but they will likely move out of the stage.

Men who have been hurt in exclusive relationships will often say they are giving up and will see multiple women. I was 100% that way. I just had people in my life who swore that if I found the right one, I would not want to stray. Just like you guys think with me, I thought they were fucking nuts but the seed of it being possible was planted.

I had people here get mad it me when I said sugar baby sex is better than ho sex. The guys who had sugar babies agreed with me. The guys who did not thought I was nuts.

Now I am saying love sex is at a higher level than sugar baby sex, but you do not get there until you commit. The reason you can stay committed, and I know you do not believe that you can, is because that sex is at a higher level, and you will not want to give it up.

I know I am not going to convince you just like others were not able to convince me. All I can do is plant that seed in your head that maybe it is possible. If this was put to a vote, I would be creamed. But in the long run? The best sex will win out.

[PedroMorales]

Yes. I could think of the name, in separate words, Private, Dancer but could not locate it. It was a bible of sorts in time gone by. Life moves on and hookers have lost whatever romance they may have had for me. I like their sob sob stories but they are all crushed dolls, too broken to get involved with. I would never (again) invite a hooker to my place lest stuff goes missing or I get my throat cut.

I guess Private Dancer only gelled with mongers and so was not a big seller.

Lots of losers hook up with hookers, who like the Pretty Woman trip until the arguments start over money.

I had two failures tonight with reading so reading is on the long finger. As is much else.

Stephen Leather, Private Dancer?

Houellebecq's writing is on another level to that pop garbage. It's all glorioulsy dark humour and deeply fatalist. Irvine Welsh's name popped in to my mind when I wrote that. Nothing to do with sex, but he was the master of dark humour too. I know Trainspotting was his height of fame, but I just loved the writing style of Marabou Stork Nightmares. Experimental writing that hits the spot.

[JjBee62]

I might get that book. That would be fun, going on a silver haired tour and marching hookers in in industrial numbers on the walk of shame. It would certainly give the knitting circle something to natter about.

Prostitutes have inspired such great literature, mostly French, Zola's Nana and the great Maupassant. Then there was that English crime writer who wrote the book about a Thai hooker. I tried googling his name but all kinds of shit about guys arrested for killing hookers started popping up. Enchanting and exotic as rolls with hookers in foreign fields are, best to find, fuck and forget. Romance is for novels.

Hate to break ranks but Elvis is letting the side down here.

I read a bunch of reviews for a hotel in the Dominican Republic several years ago. Apparently some big church group was taking up most of the rooms, while a few old mongers were occupying the rest. Nothing but 1 star reviews because of the constant parade of prostitutes in the lobby, in the restaurant and at the pool. Not to mention all of the shouts of "leche papi."

[BlackThought]

Yet nobody ever has an answer when I ask what good sex is. I assume that I have had just as much good sex with hookers as I have had bad sex with chicks that are not hookers. Went to a casa 3 days ago and fucked a super GFE chick. 2 days ago I fucked a chick that is not a hooker and she would not even put my dick in her mouth.

Same here. Great sex has nothing to do with love.

[JustTK]

Then there was that English crime writer who wrote the book about a Thai hooker.

Hate to break ranks but Elvis is letting the side down here.

Stephen Leather, Private Dancer?

Houellebecq's writing is on another level to that pop garbage. It's all glorioulsy dark humour and deeply fatalist. Irvine Welsh's name popped in to my mind when I wrote that. Nothing to do with sex, but he was the master of dark humour too. I know Trainspotting was his height of fame, but I just loved the writing style of Marabou Stork Nightmares. Experimental writing that hits the spot.

[MarquisdeSade1]

And how is that working for you sex wise? We must be in two different worlds because when I have been in the Medellin casas, Bogota strip clubs, and agencies in Mexico, out of 60 women, I have had five that have been memorable. How many times have you paid for sex and the sex would have been better if you whacked off or used a sex doll? Honestly? About half?

Now that compares to SA where I have had a dozen memorable women, and what has happened since I started talking about SA / seeking? The number of guys using it has exploded. Why? Because the sex in the sugar baby world and the quality of women there are better. That is because it is not just sex for money.

Hell, let's just talk trust. How much better is a sexual encounter with just that? Isn't a woman who is giving all of herself to you going to be better than one who is not because she trusts you?

And don't you want women to be motivated to perform? Is money all that matters with you and performance? How many times on here have we heard morons say "all women are interested in is money"? If you can find out what motivates a woman and tap into that, wouldn't that lead to a better sexual performance? If you listen to the dumb asses here, that does not matter at all.

https://www.slaafws.org/

You are talking like some pornstars I have met at porn conventions that walk around trying to convert people to Jesus Inc.

I have spoken to a few of them, I must say being an ardent atheist, I find them quite insane LOL.

https://www.theatlantic.com/technolo...n-stars/69145/