Stupid shit in Medellin

[JjBee62]

How can anyone undermine Fauci when he changes his mind every second?

Here he is on lockdowns and the economy taking both points of view: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cuxi4c0dUOk.

Here he is on public gatherings: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cuxi4c0dUOk.

Here he is in person on social distancing and mask wearing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdOSFbmyF_w.

It looks to me like the person undermining Fauci is Fauci.

How can you trust an expert who changes his mind every time the wind blows?

You're kidding me, right? You take 3 out of context videos, all from Tucker Carlson, and those are your proof? Stop with your constant bullshit. Link the full interviews, instead of the carefully cropped segments that Fox likes to use to convince the terminally stupid, of whatever lie they are perpetuating.

Still true to form.

[Paulie97]

This is hilarious, you're aware that NY is only second to NJ when it comes to number of deaths per capita. I would call New York the Corona Capital of the World. The virus truly had its way in NY to the degree that they probably reached herd immunity. NY didn't "succeed" with anything, they failed so bad that they have pretty much already reached the worst case scenario.

This deflection was answered in my prior post to you so no need to rehash it. New York is still a long ways from herd immunity, estimates are that in the rangle of 20 to 25% of the population has been exposed. What isn't hilarious is Sweden, 22 times the number of deaths, 11 times the per capita death rate of their neighbor Norway as a result of a foolish experiment, completely avoidable and was essentially suicide.

[Paulie97]

The second highest number of deaths per capita in the USA and you're impressed? It's good that they pretty much reached herd immunity, but the way that they failed isn't impressive.

This is of course is a deflection, key ring jingle, "oh don't look at that, look over here!" No one denies that New York was once the epicenter of the virus. This isn't surprising given the logistics, a crowed major city, heavy use of mass transit systems and it's a huge hub for international travel. What's impressive is their response to the disaster, as over the last three months they've gone from confirmed daily cases in the 10 K rangle down to around 500. Death rates have seen a similar trajectory. And how was this all accomplished? It was with daily news briefings and widespread compliance with masks, social distancing and other containment measures. It works. That's what you don't want to hear, so you change the subject.

[Paulie97]

Georgia is doing just fine.

Georgia is not doing "just fine. " Confirmed cases and deaths are surging there in a big way. I posted the graphs already. Here they are again. If you are having trouble reading and interpreting the simple data maybe you can find someone to help you. They like several other states opened too soon and are paying a serious price.

It's funny that some people are still worrying about the virus considering that at worst 0.2% of the population will die while the unemployment is going through the roof.

At worst? You are at. 06% in Sweden now and counting, with 11 times the per capita deaths as your neighbor Norway. And even with this foolish, deadly experiment you are only at about 10% of the way to herd immunity.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opini...mn/5472100002/

200 lost their jobs for every old, weak and fat that lost their lives. It's absolutely crazy.

More false information. What's crazy is your failed experiment in Sweden that killed many thousands of your countrymen needlessly.

Covid causes more than death. Many suffer long term, debilitating symptoms and permanent damage is possible.

https://www.baltimoresun.com/feature...gzy-story.html

Though it primarily effects elders the young don't get a pass.

https://www.wfla.com/community/healt...19-in-florida/

https://fox59.com/news/coronavirus/2...erge-of-death/

There's also evidence of serious neurological effects in small children.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101 . 20088021 v1.

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamane . Ct /2767979.

Scroll down and review the CDC data on deaths. Plenty of the 54 and under crowd are effected.

https://data.cdc.gov/NCHS/Provisiona...nd-S/9bhg-hcku

I couldn't care less about your unemployment or access to cheap pussy. Economies recover. Dead people never do. Your foolish experiment failed. The world doesn't want to sacrifice millions of lives chasing herd immunity. We want to take certain precautions while we work on effective treatments and a vaccine. So put the cork in your whining and your failed, dangerous ideas back in your ass.

[Xavter]

There is a record that people tested positive at 22nd days of quarantine. Instead of the common 14 days isolation protocol, there is at least one country adds 7 days mandatory mask and avoid using public transportation or going to public places. I don't want to give you wrong information because a lot of stuff are not proven so I am not going to explain why.

I said lock down can be bullet proof and present different degree of isolations but I don't mean what I presented is bullet proof. If you can plug all the leaks so virus can't get away to infect others, then it is bullet proof. Obviously you can't lock down everyone so you are going to have people out with masks. If you can come up with a method with mask or quarantine that has no leaks, then it will work because virus can seek out leak to infect others. Try to find a video that shows how doctors and nurses wear and seal their masks to prevent infection if you can. It may help you get the idea.

I am explaining the basic but you need to figure out how to apply it because there is no single answer.

Well now you're backpedaling on your earlier declarative statements. You stated that:

Its trumps fault for being the worst leader imaginable on this. And its the fault of the media for doing a horrible job--especially fox noise. And the American people are responsible for this debacle with their greed and stupidity.
6 weeks hardcore lockdown followed by national mask mandate for 2 months and we can start moving on. Should have been done March April May.
Shame on trump, fox noise and the republicans for politicizing public health and turning the USA into the worlds worst failure for dealing with the pandemic. Shameful.

Now you're stating that there is no single answer and that someone needs to come up with a method with masks or quarantine. So which one do you believe? I believe you should stop making declarative statements that you can't support in order to take political pot shots.

[ShooBree]

Reading his posts it's very clear that it's all about him. He doesn't want the inconveniences of social distancing and masks. And he cares more about his personal finances and access to cheap pussy than human lives. The experts are in his way so he poops on them at every opportunity, and in a monger forum of all places. It's sad when you think about it, to live in such a tiny, self-absorbed world.

People are losing their jobs, companies and a few even their homes! I can't believe that some people don't see the actual consequences of this self inflicted economic recession, or even depression. So far I'm lucky, I get to keep my job and thanks to people like you there will be no shortage of pussy and I've never seen the hotel prices so low. Yet I'm not happy because I care about others and am consider of the human suffering.

The politicians in charge of the lockdowns are not the ones losing their income, they live a good life in quarantine while others don't know how to pay their rent or have money for food. That over a virus that isn't even that dangerous, most get it and get on with their lives without any problems.

The question is; who's really living in "such a tiny, self-absorbed world"?

[Elvis 2008]

I said lock down can be bullet proof and present different degree of isolations but I don't mean what I presented is bullet proof. If you can plug all the leaks so virus can't get away to infect others, then it is bullet proof. Obviously you can't lock down everyone so you are going to have people out with masks. If you can come up with a method with mask or quarantine that has no leaks, then it will work because virus can seek out leak to infect others.

That is great, Nounce. What are you going to come up with next, a cure for AIDS or TB? WTF is wrong with you that you would even propose a cure?

I am explaining the basic but you need to figure out how to apply it because there is no single answer.

Nope, frequent testing, targeted quarantines and isolation and masks used under given circumstances slow the spread of the virus. That is it. Generalized quarantines do great at one thing for sure, destroying economies.

The funny thing about this is I have been down this rabbit hole before, and you dummies are going to be repeating the same things I just said as if you were right the whole time.

[Elvis 2008]

The second highest number of deaths per capita in the USA and you're impressed? It's good that they pretty much reached herd immunity, but the way that they failed isn't impressive.

And Cuomo sending back infected nursing home residents to their facilities to infect other residents?

Cuomo's call for needing 30,0000 ventilators?

And then there was Cuomo's latest "I literally talk to people all day long who are now in their Hamptons house who also lived here, or in their Hudson Valley house, or in their Connecticut weekend house, and I say, 'You got to come back! We'll go to dinner! I'll buy you a drink! Come over, I'll cook! The Democratic governor said Monday.

Do you know what MSDNC loving guys like Paulie call this? Real leadership!

This lying sack of shit actually tried to put himself out as a Republican.

[Elvis 2008]

He doesn't want the inconveniences of social distancing and masks. And he cares more about his personal finances and access to cheap pussy than human lives.

You are a liar. You think New York, the state with the most deaths, is the answer to beating the Corona virus. You think Peruvians suck and Colombians suck because they listened to experts and their populations were decimated by Corona. You want Trump out of office and are willing to destroy the world economy to do so. You think the answer to this crisis is listening to the same people who have been all over the fucking place with their recommendations and that the citizens, most of whom who follow their advice to the tee, are to blame. You want all Americans to blindly hand over their civil rights without ever questioning authority.

I have said umpteen times masks work and that Fauci was dead wrong on this issue.

I am a patriot. You all are sheep.

[Nounce]

You're still not addressing my question. You stated that the solution was a bulletproof lockdown (not clear what this means by your description) and then mandatory face masks for all. Are you suggesting that the virus can't spread anymore after a 14 day "bulletproof lockdown" as long as everyone uses face masks?

There is a record that people tested positive at 22nd days of quarantine. Instead of the common 14 days isolation protocol, there is at least one country adds 7 days mandatory mask and avoid using public transportation or going to public places. I don't want to give you wrong information because a lot of stuff are not proven so I am not going to explain why.

I said lock down can be bullet proof and present different degree of isolations but I don't mean what I presented is bullet proof. If you can plug all the leaks so virus can't get away to infect others, then it is bullet proof. Obviously you can't lock down everyone so you are going to have people out with masks. If you can come up with a method with mask or quarantine that has no leaks, then it will work because virus can seek out leak to infect others. Try to find a video that shows how doctors and nurses wear and seal their masks to prevent infection if you can. It may help you get the idea.

I am explaining the basic but you need to figure out how to apply it because there is no single answer.

[Paulie97]

Being an expert means that you know how to do research and analysis and come to scholarly conclusions on something. It does not mean that you know everything about something on day 1 minute 1.

You don't take your car to an veteran mechanic and expect him to tell you what is wrong with it before tinkering under the hood and poking around doing an analysis. And when he attempts to do it every 30 seconds you are hollering you are no damn expert at all. If you were you would have had this thing fixed already. Experts do not have to already know everything about something, but they know the process and steps to take in order to find out. And even expert pilots crash; don't mean they were not an expert.

But since the CDC people are not experts, I guess you have just as much chance of figuring the thing out as they do, so have at it.

Reading his posts it's very clear that it's all about him. He doesn't want the inconveniences of social distancing and masks. And he cares more about his personal finances and access to cheap pussy than human lives. The experts are in his way so he poops on them at every opportunity, and in a monger forum of all places. It's sad when you think about it, to live in such a tiny, self-absorbed world.

[ShooBree]

Check my photo attachments, a huge high five to New Yorkers who learned and have done a marvelous job of containing a pandemic. The same data can be found via the link below, and by scrolling down and viewing the graphs related to daily new cases and daily deaths, fucking impressive.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/new-york/

Enjoy your weekend gentlemen, and again, hats off to New York!.

The second highest number of deaths per capita in the USA and you're impressed? It's good that they pretty much reached herd immunity, but the way that they failed isn't impressive.

[ShooBree]

How to do it and how not to do it, the Covid response with reopening efforts in New York when compared to states such Florida, Georgia, Texas, and California.

"As the cases and deaths rose and hospital spaces were filled up across New York, city and state leaders increased their strict health mandates, ordering that all New Yorkers wear a face covering outdoors in April and maintain social distancing while businesses remained shuttered.

Carol Gomes, the CEO of Stony Brook University Hospital in Suffolk County, told ABC News she believes more people took the governor's orders seriously because of his constant and informative daily news conferences.

While there were some who still blatantly ignored the mandates for face coverings and social distancing, New York residents, by and large, adhered to the health guidance because they were being hit constantly with reminders of that COVID-19 curve, according to Gomes.

'I really do believe that the focus on the balance was communicating with the public about reducing the spread. You go to supermarkets and everyone was wearing masks,' she told ABC News. 'There was continuous reinforcement of the orders in our communities. '.

The efforts paid off, according to Braithwaite, as the data showed cases and deaths were going down throughout the state in April and May. "

And they are still going down even to this day. .

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/york-c...ry?id=71772507

This is hilarious, you're aware that NY is only second to NJ when it comes to number of deaths per capita. I would call New York the Corona Capital of the World. The virus truly had its way in NY to the degree that they probably reached herd immunity. NY didn't "succeed" with anything, they failed so bad that they have pretty much already reached the worst case scenario.

[ShooBree]

There's more foolishness from another state that isn't getting the message.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/st...?mod=home-page

And such is well reflected in their results. See attachments below.

Georgia is doing just fine, of course they're more sensitive to the virus given their low numbers of deaths. It's funny that some people are still worrying about the virus considering that at worst 0.2% of the population will die while the unemployment is going through the roof.

200 lost their jobs for every old, weak and fat that lost their lives. It's absolutely crazy.

[Mr Enternational]

Is this disease like all the others? If so, you have a valid point. If it is not, and it is not, then there are no experts.

Being an expert means that you know how to do research and analysis and come to scholarly conclusions on something. It does not mean that you know everything about something on day 1 minute 1.

You don't take your car to an veteran mechanic and expect him to tell you what is wrong with it before tinkering under the hood and poking around doing an analysis. And when he attempts to do it every 30 seconds you are hollering you are no damn expert at all. If you were you would have had this thing fixed already. Experts do not have to already know everything about something, but they know the process and steps to take in order to find out. And even expert pilots crash; don't mean they were not an expert.

But since the CDC people are not experts, I guess you have just as much chance of figuring the thing out as they do, so have at it.