Stupid shit in Medellin

[ShooBree]

Hey Shoe Breezey. You really seem to have a man-crush on Paulie. In your rant you used his name 16 times (unless I missed some others). WoW! You might consider moving on. I don't think he's all that interested.

But I suspect that Elvis and Marquis may be interested.

Oh and as to your last screech of a comment. I've read many posts from Paulie on Medellin and the state of the hobby here. Oddly enough I've never read anything from you. Can you explain that? Have you ever been to Medellin? Can you find it on a map? Can you afford to fly over here?

You know, maybe you should just stick with the Germany FKK Club - Rants and WTF are you talking about and Coronavirus! section. You seem to be winning the contest for biggest jerk over there.

Naawww, its so cute to see you trying to defend your boyfriend, Paulie the creepy stalker.

I like that you skipped doing your failed arguments and instead jumped right to the lying and personal attacks. Surely both you and Paulie are both stalkers and mentally challenged, but somehow you manages to be even dumber than him. Its kinda impressive.

If you're too lazy and / or stupid to find my posts you're only making a fool out of yourself.

No offense to Colombia, been there twice, but its a lowbudget place which brings too many trashy USAns. There are better places to go to, or what do you think of Brazil and the UAE? More to see and do, and most importantly less US trash. I've also just recently discovered this lowkey, USAn free mongering destination. Its perfect May to October, but you probably can't even afford the flight to get there.

I'm still waiting for you to share the source of how "Those higher paying jobs that you are crowing about are largely with American companies". You really know how to make yourself look stupid.

Around 100% of your posts consists of questions, lies, personal attacks and irrelevant blablabla.

You're an pathetic old geezer who belongs in a nursing home. Or insane asylum.

[SawZonaNorte]

Because it has already been proven false. Israel was the most vaccinated country on earth a few weeks ago and had higher cases per capita than anyone.

You are mis-stating the data about Israel "a few weeks ago" that was so absurdly misunderstood by those many who can't understand simple math.

But here is the problem. https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/2021...ass-2020-total.

The number of COVID-19 deaths recorded so far in 2021 has surpassed the total for 2020, according to the latest data from Johns Hopkins University.

Overall, more than 771,000 COVID-19 deaths have been reported in the USA During the pandemic. About 385,000 were reported in 2020, according to CDC data, and more than 386,000 have been reported this year.

Want to explain that?

Good job at cherry-picking meaningless data. You wouldn't be any further off if you cited the USA having had more Covid deaths than has Barbados, as being truly indicative of anything.

You fail to add the following:

USA 2020: approximately 346,687 Covid deaths.

USA 2021 through Nov 26: approximately 439,700 covid deaths.

USA 2020: approximately 20,037,736 confirmed cases.

USA 2021 through Nov. 26: approximately 28,148,237 confirmed cases (which is 1. 40476 times as many cases as there were in 2020).

So now, if you have any common sense, you multiply 1. 40476 by the number of last year's deaths.

Only then can you fairly compare what is this year's 439,700 YTD deaths to the new number, which is 487,012.

Then magnify it all by so much more of the world having been so much more immobilized during Covid times in 2020 than has been the case in 2021. (it is impossible to fully represent the fact that a far higher percentage of the stupid people are the ones being so affected {and Infected} in 2021 than was the case in 2020).

Say nothing of the extremely obvious snowball effect where there were almost zero USA Covid deaths for the first 2 months of 2020, while 2021 has already had 11 solid months of widespread Covid, and yet, with vaccines and masks, the percentages are markedly better in 2021 than they were in 2020.

Furthermore, the up-to-the-day 28-day-moving-averages of Covid deaths are trending downward in the USA even as the newsmedia trumpets all of the talk about the brand new, scary variant from South Africa.

Not to mention that you have no way to fairly compare the difference between Covid having been allowed to rampage the USA fully unchecked (sans masks or vaccines) to what we have now, which is approximately the following:

The stupid people shunning all forms of Covid defense and gathering willy-nilly amongst themselves in pre-Covid stupid form, while at the same time a giant percentage of the rest of the population is wearing masks, and cutting way back on human contact, particularly that which is unnecessary.

One need only sort the USA States by % of Covid infections to clearly understand this statistical reality. Then it might become more clear if you cross-reference that list to the typical Presidential election map.

At the end of the big, multi-faceted equation, the only clear conclusion is that the stupid people will never understand. (which plagues society today much as it has since the beginning of time).

[MarquisdeSade1]

This is why the USA is done. Our forefathers knew we were done once people could vote themselves money..

I love your posts and hate to disagree, but.

What about when turds like GW Bush sent $300 tax rebates to the poor.

And $10 million to turds like Cheney the Kochs Bozo et al?

[Villainy]

Paulie .......... Paulie......, Paulie......, Paulie......., Paulie......., Paulie......., is at it again..[/B]

Hey Shoe Breezey. You really seem to have a man-crush on Paulie. In your rant you used his name 16 times (unless I missed some others). WoW! You might consider moving on. I don't think he's all that interested.

But I suspect that Elvis and Marquis may be interested.

Oh and as to your last screech of a comment. I've read many posts from Paulie on Medellin and the state of the hobby here. Oddly enough I've never read anything from you. Can you explain that? Have you ever been to Medellin? Can you find it on a map? Can you afford to fly over here?

You know, maybe you should just stick with the Germany FKK Club - Rants and WTF are you talking about and Coronavirus! section. You seem to be winning the contest for biggest jerk over there.

[Elvis 2008]

Paulie the liar, Paulie the deranged weirdo, Paulie the mad stalker, Paulie the basement dweller, Paulie the fact resistent retard, is at it again.

Paulie even admits in his own post that I'm right, lockdowns do not work. Hes just too stupid and confused to understand that its irrelevant if it works in theory if it doesn't work in the real world. We have stats on it, the lockdowns failed.

What Paulie fails to understand is that I'm talking about what's actually happening, while he goes on and on with his "could: s" and "if: s". Sorry, but I don't give a fuck about what works in Paulies irrelevant fantasies.

What's needed is an approach based on precision and an understanding of the people's mentality.

The lockdowns failed to do so, it caused more harm than good. The lockdowns only satisfied the scared (aka Paulie) and the need for the incompetent politicians to look like they were doing something.

The actions were based on fear, populism and incompetence.

People don't need laws to adjust their behaviour and they will easily break the laws if they don't agree with them. Just look at the legalization of marijuana or how many that are breaking the speed-limits.

Too bad Paulie the retarded can't read, otherwise he would have seen that I compared Peru with Brazil and Colombia, not Sweden. Another lie from Paulie the deranged weirdo..

That is an epic post, SB. Hopefully, Paulie crawls back into his hole and does not climb back out. Thing is the Democratic douches were upset I was not playing with them in the American politics forum, so they had to come over here and stir up shit. The American Politics form resembled the talking heads on MSNBC.

As you said the lockdowns do not work, and I am reading the book "What really happened in Wuhan" and guess who said travel bans do not work? Fauci, yes Lord Fauci.

You are right about the racism part too. Thing about the Democratic douches is they only criticize white people which means they are the biggest racists of all. Hence, all the hatred for Sweden and the Republicans but China? Nah, attacking them is racist. So the CCP, the fuckers who are the most guilty party of all, get a complete pass from the Democratic douches.

I think it really is time we start looking at cutting the checks going out to these douches. They are so fucking bored they have to come onto a hooker board and stir up shit. Have you seen any Republican retards come here and start stirring up shit about abortion or Jesus?

I actually do not like discussing this, but let's be real. When it came to mongering, there is no question that Trump had a much more friendly travel policy than Biden but if you are a Democrat, you are so fucked in the head you cannot even say it let alone think it. That is how fucking deranged these people are.

[ShooBree]

Another reason why you shouldn't waste your time is because we had this same discussion about a year ago, hashed out thoroughly and with source citations, at least from some. Such are virtually non-existent from ShooBree and Elvis, probably because they are embarrassed of the places where they read. Surely laziness and incompetence play into it as well. But no one should feel compelled to do it all over again for a twerp in a basement in Sweden whose never been to Colombia, and only frequents the free for all threads where his posts won't get deleted.

The bottom line is that "lockdowns" or written laws are meaningless without effective enforcement and compliance. He operates with the assumption that these laws are well enforced and obeyed, a fallacy on it's face as it assumes "facts" not entered into evidence, thus his questions are loaded. Not surprisingly for anyone who has been to Latin America, there's been plenty of weak enforcement and non-compliance there. Other factors also enter the equation, such as population density, modes of transportation, the makeup of households which are often multi-generational in Latin America, food sourcing, gig economies etc. Etc. And this leap from Sweden to Peru is all a red herring to turn attention away from Sweden's poor Covid performance when measured against their Nordic neighbors who represent similar societies. The immigrant (Blacks and Arabs) card has been played but it fails as Denmark and Norway have similar rates of immigration from Africa and the Middle East..

Paulie the Dunning Kruger Effect personified, Paulie the liar, Paulie the deranged weirdo, Paulie the mad stalker, Paulie the basement dweller, Paulie the fact resistent retard, is at it again.

Of course he and his only "friends", aka the other pathetic internet weirdos trolling this site, never produced anything that wasn't easy to rebuttal. All Paulie does is it to lie and fantasize, I guess that is normal for the scared little basement dweller.

Paulie even admits in his own post that I'm right, lockdowns do not work. Hes just too stupid and confused to understand that its irrelevant if it works in theory if it doesn't work in the real world. We have stats on it, the lockdowns failed.

What Paulie fails to understand is that I'm talking about what's actually happening, while he goes on and on with his "could: s" and "if: s". Sorry, but I don't give a fuck about what works in Paulies irrelevant fantasies.

What's needed is an approach based on precision and an understanding of the people's mentality.

The lockdowns failed to do so, it caused more harm than good. The lockdowns only satisfied the scared (aka Paulie) and the need for the incompetent politicians to look like they were doing something.

The actions were based on fear, populism and incompetence.

People don't need laws to adjust their behaviour and they will easily break the laws if they don't agree with them. Just look at the legalization of marijuana or how many that are breaking the speed-limits.

Too bad Paulie the retarded can't read, otherwise he would have seen that I compared Peru with Brazil and Colombia, not Sweden. Another lie from Paulie the deranged weirdo.

Sweden managed this way better than most countries, less deaths / capita than other EU-countries which implemented lockdowns. Paulie the Ugly USAn is pretty much the perfect example of the Ugly American, hes an uneducated loudmouth with preconceived opinions. What he says has nothing to do with reality, it's all just based on his crazy fantasies and prejudice.

I feel sorry for those who got imprisoned by their politicians, I feel even more sorry föare Paulie the deranged basement dweller whose life is so pathetic that he wants to be imprisoned in his home by the politicians.

Its rather distateful to read his ugly racist remarks pretending that all Scandinavian countries are the same. Paulie is a brain dead racist. There are many differences between the countries and it's obvious for anyone who actually wants to know, instead of just pretending like Paulie the deranged racist.

Paulie is extremely selfish and scared of the little Covid-virus, probably because hes a fatso with health problems.

Its funny how that asshole lies about me while we have yet to see him do any post on the actual topic of this site.

[MarquisdeSade1]

I am paid very well LMAO I'm sure they appreciate you think so LMAO.

I'm sorry I struck a nerve again and you had to stop eating buttholes to reply.

I've been to the bay many times over the last several yrs to see it 1st hand.

East bay / south bay / the valley / the city, just about every area except north of the GG bridge.

Now get back to eating CCP wart encrusted buttholes.

https://www.newsmax.com/finance/stre...pmqJTdQiZwEF8E

The oligarchs used to source slaves from Afrika but that ended badly, so they pivoted to Central America for agriculture and Asia for the railroads.

Now its 2021 and not that much has changed they still source Central America for agriculture and Asia for low end tech needs.

That's why they fought our Lord and Savior so hard against Americas great wall, they have 3 billion dirt poor slaves in CCP land and India alone to source.

https://www.businessinsider.com/chin...llapses-2012-8

Lets not even mention the dams hospitals and schools etc that collapse, quintessential cases of you get what you pay for GIGO.

Look at the big tech oligarchs and their wealth, all modern day slaveowners Zuckerburg Dorsey Gates et al.

[MarquisdeSade1]

LOL there you go again, talking about a subject you know nothing about. I work in tech in the Bay Area and I am paid very well. Maybe if you stopped being so mad at the world, you'd be able to use that energy towards finding a decent job, then you can finally go live out your fantasies in Medellin lmao.

I am paid very well LMAO I'm sure they appreciate you think so LMAO.

I'm sorry I struck a nerve again and you had to stop eating buttholes to reply.

I've been to the bay many times over the last several yrs to see it 1st hand.

East bay / south bay / the valley / the city, just about every area except north of the GG bridge.

Now get back to eating CCP wart encrusted buttholes.

https://www.newsmax.com/finance/stre...pmqJTdQiZwEF8E

[Elvis 2008]

I appreciate the effort JustTK, but you do not understand how the Democratic douches operate.

The DDs here do not care about saving lives. They just want to say that they do a better job saving lives Republicans would.

The DDs here do not care about educated. They want to smugly believe they are superior.

You can tell them the vaccine does not prevent Covid from spreading. You can point to all the links, science, and data you want. They want a smoke screen. They want the ability to create conflict to make people look away from what really scares them, and that is their checks from the government stopping.

When an American pol talks about the supposedly hard working blue collar types, they talk about teachers, firemen, police officers. These employees do not work. No, they serve. That phrase makes me gag.

The reality is these supposedly honorable hard working government types are bankrupting the country.

https://nypost.com/2018/01/20/thousa...k-in-pensions/

More than 3,000 retirees drew pensions of more than $100,000 in 2017, according to data compiled by the Empire Center for Public Policy.

Forty-six retirees bagged more than $200,000 including Schools Chancellor Carmen Faria, who collected $215,582 on top of her yearly $233,430 city salary.

End of quote.

This is why the USA is done. Our forefathers knew we were done once people could vote themselves money. When you start talking just $50,000 per year for 20 years, that is $1 million per employee, and people are living longer than ever.

Bear in mind this story is from back in 2017. There are numerous states with the same figures and the numbers are worse now.

In addition, those under 65 are also paying for the health care of those older than them.

So the DDs will always try to put a spotlight on anything but them. They will point at the unvaxxed, the Trump supporter, and they will proclaim that money is better spent on them than anyone else.

That is the basis of the point and hate Democratic douche. The goal is the finger is pointed at anyone but them because THEY are the most selfish pigs in the USA right now and their biggest fear is that Republicans take an axe to their payouts.

[JustTK]

Please watch this with open eyes and ears.

It explains very well why we are all going to get it, and why we should quit pointing the finger and accept that we have to live w it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7bYeLszh0M

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwrt23SDSFs

Maybe 30 minutes in total. 30 minutes very well spent that would settle this debate if we could all sit still and listen with an open mind for a few minutes.

[Elvis 2008]

And when will you explain why Peru with their lockdowns have twice as many deaths / capita than Colombia?

For once, be a man and don't change the subject or lie.

As expected, he behaved like a douche and gave a POS snobby response and did not answer your question. You have to understand he is a Democratic douche and if it is not reported in left wing media, like a douche, he is perplexed. When you do not know the answer, douches will not answer or attack you.

Democratic douches do not know anything about the virus outside of what is in the left wing media, and the answer was not listed there with prominence. The reason Peru had such a high death rate is they had an oxygen shortage. See the link: https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/05/ameri...ntl/index.html.

You have to understand that douches are like going without oxygen themselves if they have to think on their own. All that matters with Covid spread is what Fauci and the "scientists" say: hand washing, social distancing, lockdowns, vaccines ETC. If the "scientists" do not say it, it does not exist.

I half expect Viliany the douche to say, "Since when does oxygen save lives? That sounds like Elvis logic to me".

[BlackThought]

Silicon valley aka the land of 3rd world slaves in the bay area.

How do you think big tech gets so rich, by "overpaying" under qualified 3rd worlders to do perfunctory / menial tasks.

But hey you made it to the Land of milk and honey, living 20 guys jammed in a 3 bedroom apt LOL.

Like the poultry and ag workers from Mexico in the USA jajajaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.

LOL there you go again, talking about a subject you know nothing about. I work in tech in the Bay Area and I am paid very well. Maybe if you stopped being so mad at the world, you'd be able to use that energy towards finding a decent job, then you can finally go live out your fantasies in Medellin lmao.

[Elvis 2008]

It's been a long-time, if ever, that anyone has argued those that have been vaccinated are not contagious. But clearly, if you don't have the virus, you can't spread it. So if 100 people are vaccinated, and 5 get COVID anyways, that is better to reduce transmission than 20 unvaccinated people getting it and walking around. How does that basic concept elude you?

Because it has already been proven false. Israel was the most vaccinated country on earth a few weeks ago and had higher cases per capita than anyone. I could also add other countries with higher than ever case loads that are heavily vaccinated. On top of that, I do not think you even understand the concept of "if you do not have the virus", what does that means? Infection? Colonization? And how high are the viral counts?

Do you believe the virus went from pangolin to man? If so, then how do you account for transmission from animals to humans given none of them are vaccinated and so many carry the virus? And we are just going to assume this number is zero too? You have not accounted for so many variables in your theory, a theory that has already been disproven.

Regarding your 3% argument, did you bother to follow your own link? That was just for JnJ. Moderna and Pfizer numbers were stated as being 64% and 50% effective in the same original article. Not as good as anyone would hope, but light years away from your basic premise.

Say what? Pfizer's vaccine reportedly has gone from 95 to 50 to 39% effective the last time it was checked. You mean you are just following them now?

Let me ask you something JC do you even get what those numbers mean?

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...075-X/fulltext

Rather, a 95% vaccine efficacy means that instead of 1000 COVID-19 cases in a population of 100 000 without vaccine (from the placebo arm of the abovementioned trials, approximately 1% would be ill with COVID-19 and 99% would not) we would expect 50 cases (9995% of the population is disease-free, at least for 3 months).

End of quote.

Well, that is great. Hell, things are so fucking great with the vaccine that I am going to have to expand these numbers by 20 to make my point. Two million citizens Unvaxxed has 20,000 cases. Vaxxed has 1000, but there is more. Being vaxxed means you are at least 10 X less likely to die. So we have 1000 people. Let's say 1% die. Now we are down to 10. Then you add in that you get a 10 X reduction of being vaxxed and you are down to 1 death. One out of 2 million people die if everyone is vaxxed versus 200 without a vax. Vaccines can prevent 99+% of all deaths. It is a miracle!!

But here is the problem. https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/2021...ass-2020-total.

The number of COVID-19 deaths recorded so far in 2021 has surpassed the total for 2020, according to the latest data from Johns Hopkins University.

Overall, more than 771,000 COVID-19 deaths have been reported in the USA During the pandemic. About 385,000 were reported in 2020, according to CDC data, and more than 386,000 have been reported this year.

Want to explain that?

And maybe this too: Unvaccinated People Are 11 Times More Likely To Die Of COVID-19, New Research Finds.

https://www.npr.org/2021/09/10/10360...es-more-likely

[Paulie97]

OK, I seriously considered writing up an explanation and sourced analysis of each of your 'issues' but decided it isn't worth my time. You think these are 'gotcha' points but the reality is you are too lazy and incapable of analytical work to do it yourself. So you challenge anything and everything that doesn't fit your worldview. Why should I waste my time presenting the research and sources when you could do it yourself? (if you were not so lazy and incompetent). I think a better course for you would be to read and believe everything Elvis writes. It won't be right but at least you won't have to do any work. Have a nice day, wear your mask when you leave home and remember to take your Vaxx card.

Another reason why you shouldn't waste your time is because we had this same discussion about a year ago, hashed out thoroughly and with source citations, at least from some. Such are virtually non-existent from ShooBree and Elvis, probably because they are embarrassed of the places where they read. Surely laziness and incompetence play into it as well. But no one should feel compelled to do it all over again for a twerp in a basement in Sweden whose never been to Colombia, and only frequents the free for all threads where his posts won't get deleted.

The bottom line is that "lockdowns" or written laws are meaningless without effective enforcement and compliance. He operates with the assumption that these laws are well enforced and obeyed, a fallacy on it's face as it assumes "facts" not entered into evidence, thus his questions are loaded. Not surprisingly for anyone who has been to Latin America, there's been plenty of weak enforcement and non-compliance there. Other factors also enter the equation, such as population density, modes of transportation, the makeup of households which are often multi-generational in Latin America, food sourcing, gig economies etc. Etc. And this leap from Sweden to Peru is all a red herring to turn attention away from Sweden's poor Covid performance when measured against their Nordic neighbors who represent similar societies. The immigrant (Blacks and Arabs) card has been played but it fails as Denmark and Norway have similar rates of immigration from Africa and the Middle East.

But anyway it's all still here for sure, in this Stupid Shit thread. Look for posts by myself, JJBee62, and some others, going back about a year, maybe a bit later by a few months. The short of it is that masks and social distancing work, hardly surprising for a respiratory illness passed through aerosols.

Happy Thanksgiving everyone.

[ShooBree]

No, ShooBreezer I didn't say politicians were smart. You seem to be infatuated with changing what someone says so that you can make your argument. Learn that from Elvis did you?

Here is what I did and still do say. European politicians are smarter and much better informed than you!.

I can't really comment on Kamala Harris or Joe Biden but Hillary Clinton is one of the smartest people that ever ran for President of the US. So why did she lose? She is unattractive and extremely unlikeable. In American politics smarts can not overcome being generally unattractive and unlikeable.

Of course you can, jajajajaja. Why don't you run for office and prove it? Otherwise you're just another narcissistic windbag.

OK, I seriously considered writing up an explanation and sourced analysis of each of your 'issues' but decided it isn't worth my time. You think these are 'gotcha' points but the reality is you are too lazy and incapable of analytical work to do it yourself. So you challenge anything and everything that doesn't fit your worldview. Why should I waste my time presenting the research and sources when you could do it yourself? (if you were not so lazy and incompetent). I think a better course for you would be to read and believe everything Elvis writes. It won't be right but at least you won't have to do any work. Have a nice day, wear your mask when you leave home and remember to take your Vaxx card.

Wow, so much stupidity and dishonesty from you. All that you wrote is incorrect.

Time after time you respond with lies, personal attacks and pathetic attempts to change the topic. You still haven't revealed the source to your lie that "Those higher paying jobs that you are crowing about are largely with American companies".

You're a troll, plan and simple. You make false claims and when confronted you change the topic. Its ridiculous to see.

You just made a long post where you implicitly expressed how smart you consider politician to be and now you changed the tune. You don't have a leg to stand on. You go back and forth because you lack any real arguments.

I don't expect a loser like you to understand it, but there's really no reason to become a politician unless you can't make it in the private sector. That applies especially to us who like to monger.

Time after time you reveal that you have no clue at all how politics works.