Stupid shit in Medellin

[Gabacho]

They voted for it! Chavez Chavez Chavez then it was Duro Maduro. That's a wealthy country natural resources wise. Noone but their own fault.

Exactly, back in the day Venezuela was a very wealthy country, in fact poor Colombians used to go there to look for economic opportunities instead of the venecos coming over here.

But then they voted for Chavez and Maduro and their country went to hell in a hand basket real fast. And now just how their own government is stealing from them, they're going to other countries and stealing from their neighbors.

Many (but not all) are thieves, crooks, ladrones whatever you want to call them. The men resort to selling drugs and stealing, while the women resort to prostitution and extortion.

The recent uptick in crime in Medellin (and Colombia as a whole) can be attributed to Venezuelan migrants. From Colombia to Peru they travel, scheming and scamming wherever they go. Just look on Spanish language chat forums and comments on YouTube videos, etc. And you will see that all these other south america countries do not want them there.

There's even a Venezuelan organized crime group called Tren de Aragua that is pimping out their own women and girls in Peru, where they promise the girls free travel and free room and board and free cell phones and shit, but when they get to Peru they become "multadas" and basically have to fuck upwards of 20 peruanos a day for free while the Tren de Aragua dudes keep all their money and their 4 month old babies are still starving regardless, and those are the kind of people crossing the Darien and central America and Mexico and entering the US. And Joe Biden is welcoming them with open arms when they arrive. There's several that I know of that have even made it to NYC and by the looks of the pics they post on facebook they appear to be prostituting in NYC as well.

So please Sir JusTK, please do enlighten us as to why you are standing up for these dirty venecas??

[DoomBringer321]

Why are you standing up for these venecas anyways?? While there are some who are honest hard working people, the vast majority of them are crooks and thieves just looking for the next way to get over on people.

Even the Colombians don't want them here.

As a former migrant myself in my case to the US, I can tell you the migrant mindset works something like this "I don't want to be in. Working a couple of decades and never have a sense of. I want to go to. To make my dreams come true" even if the statistics don't show it however the particular case with Venezuela is to a degree annoying and it's not their fault but there are reasons for this, the windfall of Oil artificially inflated Venezuelan economy it was a bubble economy for decades I remember going to college and having to work 3 jobs to make ends met and that was even with VA loans, these Venezuelans had grants afforded to them by the state some even came to Miami on vacation on a regular basis, there were no waves of Venezuelan migrants in the 90's fast forward 20 years a Socialist populist which created wealth redistribution system an economic embargo plus plummeting oil prices and you have the current results, however most of the young population did not grow up with hardship they never had a hustle mindset, they found themselves in that situation and their solutions was migration true but these are not, young cuban entrepreneurs with education that came to MIA after a government seized property, nor are they intellectual eastern europeans who wanted a better system, nor are they Mexicans from the lower class who have a do or die work ethic that makes up for whatever shortcoming that they have, these Venezuelans came from something remember the opulance of their childhood and found themselves without food through no fault of their own so they reasonably migrated but these are not your typical put you nose to the grindstone migrants, I have talked to Colombians, Peruvians, Chileans and Ecuadorians which is where I live all agree that Venezuelans have an attitude not all certainly but it's hard to explain, it's like when you have a work assignment in a prison you can't malinger because there is disciplinary repercussion you want your good days so you get out early and you are property of the state till your sentence is done so you do you work detail, not exactly enthusiastically and that is basically the attitude of all of the venezuelans who migrated they never wanted to live the "dream" they were perfectly happy being in wherever in Venezuela till the circumstances forced them to, in the case of other migration waves for example say Haiti, huricannes come destroyed your home you migrate you don't to go back, Cuba comunism and class warfare comes new rules you don't want to go back, Colombia if you were in the area where the rebels operated you don't want to pay tribute to the rebels nor do you want you children to be forced soldiers solution migrate wherever.

Venezuelans never really wanted to leave nor did they have a nomad spirit and because of the oil revenues never had to develop entrepreneurs because the government subsidized a lot, and the ones that actually had something in Venezuela they are the worst entitled to the nth degree they all talk about the good all days, and everyone had a cat and a dog 2 vacations homes and even a dinosaur as pets in their home country they are certainly not your typical migrant that is willing to work 16 hours without a break, the few that have an entrepreneur spirit sell food, juice or trinkets and they seem happy and are the least likely to go back IMHO, now that the US has lifted some aspects of their sanctions for geopolitical reasons and since they were forced to diversify their suppliers of goods and services because of the US embargo buying shit from Russia and China, this has caused their economy to stabilize and a lot of migrants are actually returning, I will certainly be happy to see fewer people ask me for handouts it will lessen my paranoia and lessen the chance of me having to send their countrymen to the hospital which I have done more than I care to remember since the migration crisis started.

[JjBee62]

With all due respect JusTK, you obviously don't know what the hell you are talking about. Obviously the ones crossing the Darien Gap to work in the USA are not lazy. They aren't the ones asking for free money, they are too busy waking through the jungle and probably don't even have signal or battery power on their phones.

No JusTK, the ones I'm talking about are in fact lazy, they spend all their money on Tussi, Cartujo Anis, and Marijuana, and/or give it to their just as lazy boyfriends then they have the nerve to ask for free money from their clientes when they haven't worked because they were up all night partying. They tend to live in pagadiarios in the Prado Centro area, not in Panama, those are the ones I'm referring to.

So next time do a little research before you open your mouth.

Why do you give women like that a way to contact you? I can understand fucking them, if that's what you like, but is there a need to give them your number?

I've always found women who ask for money are easy to deal with. You either give them money, or you tell them "no. " Same with the beggars on the street.

[GeneHickman]

Yes probably, but wait. Why would I send them money when I live here?

I just take exception when folks from privileged backgrounds belittle the hardships that most venezuelans live thru.

They voted for it! Chavez Chavez Chavez then it was Duro Maduro. That's a wealthy country natural resources wise. Noone but their own fault.

[Gabacho]

Yes probably, but wait. Why would I send them money when I live here?

I just take exception when folks from privileged backgrounds belittle the hardships that most venezuelans live thru.

Why are you standing up for these venecas anyways?? While there are some who are honest hard working people, the vast majority of them are crooks and thieves just looking for the next way to get over on people.

Even the Colombians don't want them here.

[Gabacho]

Well gabacho. In your first comment you wrote of 'Venezuelan women'. Now you qualify it and change it to drug users, party goers etc.

Its not me that needs to do more research, its you that should write about the people you refer to instead of smearing all venezuelan women.

I will give you this that not all venezuelan women are like this, there are some that are hard working people, I have a Venezuelan handyman who helped me install my electric shower head and put up some shelving and cabinets, for example, I also know some Venezuelan street food venders who are hard working people.

But they aren't the ones asking Johns for free money, are they? No they aren't asking us for money because they are working and earning their own money and don't need to ask us to send them money.

The ones blowing you up thru WhatsApp or messenger or whatever method of contact they might use are typically the drug user / partygoer type of Venezuelan women, they are the ones who are lazy and asking for money. And when stupid Britts, such as yourself, send these type of women money, it only enables them to ask more of us for money and so on but the buck stops with me!

[Gabacho]

Well gabacho. In your first comment you wrote of 'Venezuelan women'. Now you qualify it and change it to drug users, party goers etc.

Its not me that needs to do more research, its you that should write about the people you refer to instead of smearing all venezuelan women.

The party goers and drug users I am referring to are Venezuelan Women.

[Duncan216]

I heard this guy loudly bragging in a casa the other day. He spoke how Medellin has a bunch of cheap pussy and about having a 17 year old girl. The madam could understand him. That kind of talk will.

1) make some of the casa girls leave for greener pastures.

2) make all the locals view us as big pocket targets.

3) make more locals want to get rid of legalized prostitution.

This is why the talent is getting shitter and Colombia is becoming more unsafe.

People need to stop being obnoxiously yelling at the top of our lungs about this stuff. Colombia is slowly being ruined for me.

Got to be the dumbest shit bragging about banging an underage girl. Pretty sure that shit is a serious crime where you get USA jail time, etc.

[JustTK]

You're probably one of the simps sending them the money that would explain why you took offense to my post.

Yes probably, but wait. Why would I send them money when I live here?

I just take exception when folks from privileged backgrounds belittle the hardships that most venezuelans live thru.

[JustTK]

With all due respect JusTK, you obviously don't know what the hell you are talking about. Obviously the ones crossing the Darien Gap to work in the USA are not lazy. They aren't the ones asking for free money, they are too busy waking through the jungle

No JusTK, the ones I'm talking about are in fact lazy, they spend all their money on Tussi, Cartujo Anis, and Marijuana, and/or give it to their just as lazy boyfriends then they have the nerve to ask for free money from their clientes when they haven't worked because they were up all night partying.

So next time do a little research before you open your mouth.

Well gabacho. In your first comment you wrote of 'Venezuelan women'. Now you qualify it and change it to drug users, party goers etc.

Its not me that needs to do more research, its you that should write about the people you refer to instead of smearing all venezuelan women.

[GeneHickman]

With all due respect JusTK, you obviously don't know what the hell you are talking about. Obviously the ones crossing the Darien Gap to work in the USA are not lazy. They aren't the ones asking for free money, they are too busy waking through the jungle and probably don't even have signal or battery power on their phones.

No JusTK, the ones I'm talking about are in fact lazy, they spend all their money on Tussi, Cartujo Anis, and Marijuana, and/or give it to their just as lazy boyfriends then they have the nerve to ask for free money from their clientes when they haven't worked because they were up all night partying. They tend to live in pagadiarios in the Prado Centro area, not in Panama, those are the ones I'm referring to.

So next time do a little research before you open your mouth.

Here's the reality, many do work when illegal and it's basically exploitation as their options are quite limited, but then they get their papers and with those their rights to social services. Then comes the change in behaviour. So it's not a net benefit to the country. It benefits those that get the few years of exploited labour and then screws the taxpayer for a lifetime. If they drop a baby the social services start even sooner. Our country has a schizophrenic immigration policy. Anyone that has a basic understanding of economics and free markets would know that due to economic disparities and quality of life differences the US has to inevitably impose caps on immigration in some way. We would be better off formally and properly screening them and taking the best, that this poor huddles masses idealism that might have worked when we were an empty continent in need of anyone willing to come and settle the land. Finally it's just a plain simple fact that immigrants when they do get legalized votes in one direction, that skews the political balance in the country, and that's not necessarily a good thing. I say this as a centrist who believes that balance is what got us to where we are. We move too far looney left like the AOCs etc advocate and our success is not guaranteed. We need balance.

[Gabacho]

Their country is sanctioned to the point of starvation, they are denied visas, they can't afford passports, they are denied official work opportunities in neighbouring countries, they have to pass thru the darian w 4 month old babies or prostitute themselves to obese and old USAns in order to feed their families, they sleep under bridges bcos tourists laugh at them when they try to sell candies to raise money. Sure, they are just such lazy fkn bltches.

You're probably one of the simps sending them the money that would explain why you took offense to my post.

[Gabacho]

Their country is sanctioned to the point of starvation, they are denied visas, they can't afford passports, they are denied official work opportunities in neighbouring countries, they have to pass thru the darian w 4 month old babies or prostitute themselves to obese and old USAns in order to feed their families, they sleep under bridges bcos tourists laugh at them when they try to sell candies to raise money. Sure, they are just such lazy fkn bltches.

With all due respect JusTK, you obviously don't know what the hell you are talking about. Obviously the ones crossing the Darien Gap to work in the USA are not lazy. They aren't the ones asking for free money, they are too busy waking through the jungle and probably don't even have signal or battery power on their phones.

No JusTK, the ones I'm talking about are in fact lazy, they spend all their money on Tussi, Cartujo Anis, and Marijuana, and/or give it to their just as lazy boyfriends then they have the nerve to ask for free money from their clientes when they haven't worked because they were up all night partying. They tend to live in pagadiarios in the Prado Centro area, not in Panama, those are the ones I'm referring to.

So next time do a little research before you open your mouth.

[JustTK]

Especially the Venezuelan women all they do is ask for money. I have a new rule IIf the tables were turned and I was the one asking them for money they would laugh, so yea instant block if they ask for free money, lazy b i t c h e s.

Their country is sanctioned to the point of starvation, they are denied visas, they can't afford passports, they are denied official work opportunities in neighbouring countries, they have to pass thru the darian w 4 month old babies or prostitute themselves to obese and old USAns in order to feed their families, they sleep under bridges bcos tourists laugh at them when they try to sell candies to raise money. Sure, they are just such lazy fkn bltches.

[Mr Enternational]

that is to blame on all of you, or most of you who pedestalize women for just being there, look I get it you don't have to share my views but and I get it you would not be travelling if you had better options back home, but when you blow up a women ego with attention that is not deserved all you do is artificially inflate the market value,

Well unfortunately the guys like you and me are in the minority on this planet. We are far outnumbered by guys that do not mind passing money out for nothing. In another thread somebody wrote about guys paying to watch a chick sleep online. Then when she woke up, they all left.