Stupid shit in Medellin

[ShooBree]

Reading his posts it's very clear that it's all about him. He doesn't want the inconveniences of social distancing and masks. And he cares more about his personal finances and access to cheap pussy than human lives. The experts are in his way so he poops on them at every opportunity, and in a monger forum of all places. It's sad when you think about it, to live in such a tiny, self-absorbed world.

People are losing their jobs, companies and a few even their homes! I can't believe that some people don't see the actual consequences of this self inflicted economic recession, or even depression. So far I'm lucky, I get to keep my job and thanks to people like you there will be no shortage of pussy and I've never seen the hotel prices so low. Yet I'm not happy because I care about others and am consider of the human suffering.

The politicians in charge of the lockdowns are not the ones losing their income, they live a good life in quarantine while others don't know how to pay their rent or have money for food. That over a virus that isn't even that dangerous, most get it and get on with their lives without any problems.

The question is; who's really living in "such a tiny, self-absorbed world"?

[Elvis 2008]

I said lock down can be bullet proof and present different degree of isolations but I don't mean what I presented is bullet proof. If you can plug all the leaks so virus can't get away to infect others, then it is bullet proof. Obviously you can't lock down everyone so you are going to have people out with masks. If you can come up with a method with mask or quarantine that has no leaks, then it will work because virus can seek out leak to infect others.

That is great, Nounce. What are you going to come up with next, a cure for AIDS or TB? WTF is wrong with you that you would even propose a cure?

I am explaining the basic but you need to figure out how to apply it because there is no single answer.

Nope, frequent testing, targeted quarantines and isolation and masks used under given circumstances slow the spread of the virus. That is it. Generalized quarantines do great at one thing for sure, destroying economies.

The funny thing about this is I have been down this rabbit hole before, and you dummies are going to be repeating the same things I just said as if you were right the whole time.

[Elvis 2008]

The second highest number of deaths per capita in the USA and you're impressed? It's good that they pretty much reached herd immunity, but the way that they failed isn't impressive.

And Cuomo sending back infected nursing home residents to their facilities to infect other residents?

Cuomo's call for needing 30,0000 ventilators?

And then there was Cuomo's latest "I literally talk to people all day long who are now in their Hamptons house who also lived here, or in their Hudson Valley house, or in their Connecticut weekend house, and I say, 'You got to come back! We'll go to dinner! I'll buy you a drink! Come over, I'll cook! The Democratic governor said Monday.

Do you know what MSDNC loving guys like Paulie call this? Real leadership!

This lying sack of shit actually tried to put himself out as a Republican.

[Elvis 2008]

He doesn't want the inconveniences of social distancing and masks. And he cares more about his personal finances and access to cheap pussy than human lives.

You are a liar. You think New York, the state with the most deaths, is the answer to beating the Corona virus. You think Peruvians suck and Colombians suck because they listened to experts and their populations were decimated by Corona. You want Trump out of office and are willing to destroy the world economy to do so. You think the answer to this crisis is listening to the same people who have been all over the fucking place with their recommendations and that the citizens, most of whom who follow their advice to the tee, are to blame. You want all Americans to blindly hand over their civil rights without ever questioning authority.

I have said umpteen times masks work and that Fauci was dead wrong on this issue.

I am a patriot. You all are sheep.

[Nounce]

You're still not addressing my question. You stated that the solution was a bulletproof lockdown (not clear what this means by your description) and then mandatory face masks for all. Are you suggesting that the virus can't spread anymore after a 14 day "bulletproof lockdown" as long as everyone uses face masks?

There is a record that people tested positive at 22nd days of quarantine. Instead of the common 14 days isolation protocol, there is at least one country adds 7 days mandatory mask and avoid using public transportation or going to public places. I don't want to give you wrong information because a lot of stuff are not proven so I am not going to explain why.

I said lock down can be bullet proof and present different degree of isolations but I don't mean what I presented is bullet proof. If you can plug all the leaks so virus can't get away to infect others, then it is bullet proof. Obviously you can't lock down everyone so you are going to have people out with masks. If you can come up with a method with mask or quarantine that has no leaks, then it will work because virus can seek out leak to infect others. Try to find a video that shows how doctors and nurses wear and seal their masks to prevent infection if you can. It may help you get the idea.

I am explaining the basic but you need to figure out how to apply it because there is no single answer.

[Paulie97]

Being an expert means that you know how to do research and analysis and come to scholarly conclusions on something. It does not mean that you know everything about something on day 1 minute 1.

You don't take your car to an veteran mechanic and expect him to tell you what is wrong with it before tinkering under the hood and poking around doing an analysis. And when he attempts to do it every 30 seconds you are hollering you are no damn expert at all. If you were you would have had this thing fixed already. Experts do not have to already know everything about something, but they know the process and steps to take in order to find out. And even expert pilots crash; don't mean they were not an expert.

But since the CDC people are not experts, I guess you have just as much chance of figuring the thing out as they do, so have at it.

Reading his posts it's very clear that it's all about him. He doesn't want the inconveniences of social distancing and masks. And he cares more about his personal finances and access to cheap pussy than human lives. The experts are in his way so he poops on them at every opportunity, and in a monger forum of all places. It's sad when you think about it, to live in such a tiny, self-absorbed world.

[ShooBree]

Check my photo attachments, a huge high five to New Yorkers who learned and have done a marvelous job of containing a pandemic. The same data can be found via the link below, and by scrolling down and viewing the graphs related to daily new cases and daily deaths, fucking impressive.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/new-york/

Enjoy your weekend gentlemen, and again, hats off to New York!.

The second highest number of deaths per capita in the USA and you're impressed? It's good that they pretty much reached herd immunity, but the way that they failed isn't impressive.

[ShooBree]

How to do it and how not to do it, the Covid response with reopening efforts in New York when compared to states such Florida, Georgia, Texas, and California.

"As the cases and deaths rose and hospital spaces were filled up across New York, city and state leaders increased their strict health mandates, ordering that all New Yorkers wear a face covering outdoors in April and maintain social distancing while businesses remained shuttered.

Carol Gomes, the CEO of Stony Brook University Hospital in Suffolk County, told ABC News she believes more people took the governor's orders seriously because of his constant and informative daily news conferences.

While there were some who still blatantly ignored the mandates for face coverings and social distancing, New York residents, by and large, adhered to the health guidance because they were being hit constantly with reminders of that COVID-19 curve, according to Gomes.

'I really do believe that the focus on the balance was communicating with the public about reducing the spread. You go to supermarkets and everyone was wearing masks,' she told ABC News. 'There was continuous reinforcement of the orders in our communities. '.

The efforts paid off, according to Braithwaite, as the data showed cases and deaths were going down throughout the state in April and May. "

And they are still going down even to this day. .

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/york-c...ry?id=71772507

This is hilarious, you're aware that NY is only second to NJ when it comes to number of deaths per capita. I would call New York the Corona Capital of the World. The virus truly had its way in NY to the degree that they probably reached herd immunity. NY didn't "succeed" with anything, they failed so bad that they have pretty much already reached the worst case scenario.

[ShooBree]

There's more foolishness from another state that isn't getting the message.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/st...?mod=home-page

And such is well reflected in their results. See attachments below.

Georgia is doing just fine, of course they're more sensitive to the virus given their low numbers of deaths. It's funny that some people are still worrying about the virus considering that at worst 0.2% of the population will die while the unemployment is going through the roof.

200 lost their jobs for every old, weak and fat that lost their lives. It's absolutely crazy.

[Mr Enternational]

Is this disease like all the others? If so, you have a valid point. If it is not, and it is not, then there are no experts.

Being an expert means that you know how to do research and analysis and come to scholarly conclusions on something. It does not mean that you know everything about something on day 1 minute 1.

You don't take your car to an veteran mechanic and expect him to tell you what is wrong with it before tinkering under the hood and poking around doing an analysis. And when he attempts to do it every 30 seconds you are hollering you are no damn expert at all. If you were you would have had this thing fixed already. Experts do not have to already know everything about something, but they know the process and steps to take in order to find out. And even expert pilots crash; don't mean they were not an expert.

But since the CDC people are not experts, I guess you have just as much chance of figuring the thing out as they do, so have at it.

[Xavter]

If the virus is inside an air tight container, it can't infect people outside the container. Our normal environment is like a leaky container. Mask can reduce leak but it still leaks unless everyone know how to operate with it perfectly then the virus can still get in thru your eyes. That is why the flight attendants on trans pacific flight wear goggles.

Lock down can be bullet proof if done right. For example, you don't lock people in hotel because most hotels has central A / see, that is a possible leak. You don't let people share bathroom because people may be infected by virus when you flush. It does not matter if these are required or not, just do it and it will be over in a few weeks. We can find the scientific truth later. If you only act after the truth is found, you are wasting valuable time because by the time you found the truth and start to act, you could have stopped the virus without knowing the truth. Just look at China's bordering countries. They are less advanced but doing so much better.

Air travel is another leak but it can be prevented. That is what 14 days quarantine does. You can track and escort a person to the dedicated facility the minute the visitor step out of the gate to make sure there is no leak.

One reason they are arguing is because even the what one would consider the correct position is "leaky" sometimes. For example, if you read my above description, you can see how quarantine is done can vary greatly. The reason quarantine does not work is because it has leaks so it is not done right. One reason it works in China is because China will take away the infected from their family members and put them in a special quarantine facility. They are making the healthy stay in the healthy container, and the infected in the infected container until they recover. Basically, you need to think about leak and plug them, then it will work. In some other countries, all living essentials will be delivered to the infected so they don't have to go out and it help reduce infections.

You're still not addressing my question. You stated that the solution was a bulletproof lockdown (not clear what this means by your description) and then mandatory face masks for all. Are you suggesting that the virus can't spread anymore after a 14 day "bulletproof lockdown" as long as everyone uses face masks?

[Elvis 2008]

I think using that single instance to undermine Dr Fauci is wrong and it only allows the virus to do even more damages.

How can anyone undermine Fauci when he changes his mind every second?

Here he is on lockdowns and the economy taking both points of view: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cuxi4c0dUOk.

Here he is on public gatherings: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cuxi4c0dUOk.

Here he is in person on social distancing and mask wearing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdOSFbmyF_w.

It looks to me like the person undermining Fauci is Fauci.

How can you trust an expert who changes his mind every time the wind blows?

[DavidSchmauch]

I see you are all experts on Covid as well as you are on the politics of it. Can't you see that Trump and his republitards are trying to push a random drug as a cure to the virus (as if "free market" would do something to get us out of this horror) and democrats believe that there is no cure to Covid and that we would all have to be vaccinated or be quarantined for good. At this point no one knows nothing and we should pray that something happens soon so that we can start flying to those amazing places we once did again. I think our only hope is Biden winning and dying soon so that Kamala can do what one is supposed to do up there. Other than that, this moron will have his son in law who is the newspaper man try to have random private labs search for the cure or whatever he thinks might sell to desperate people who are being infected in unprecedented numbers. Pray for America.

[ChuchoLoco]

That simple huh?

I do not know what is worse. The experts spewing their bullshit or dumb asses like you who keep buying it.

Let's see now. There's one expert or as he calls himself, the chosen one, who said this is all a hoax and then he said it would just disappear like a miracle in the summer from the heat and then he has a beautiful miracle drug and then he wonders if chlorine somehow ingested would kill it in seconds and then There's his followers who must be the asses who keep believing what he says. I agree with you!

It's easier to fool a fool than it is to convince a fool that he has been fooled.

[Nounce]

I don't understand the logic of your solution. If a mask mandate solves the issue then why the need for the 6 week lockdown?

If the virus is inside an air tight container, it can't infect people outside the container. Our normal environment is like a leaky container. Mask can reduce leak but it still leaks unless everyone know how to operate with it perfectly then the virus can still get in thru your eyes. That is why the flight attendants on trans pacific flight wear goggles.

Lock down can be bullet proof if done right. For example, you don't lock people in hotel because most hotels has central A / see, that is a possible leak. You don't let people share bathroom because people may be infected by virus when you flush. It does not matter if these are required or not, just do it and it will be over in a few weeks. We can find the scientific truth later. If you only act after the truth is found, you are wasting valuable time because by the time you found the truth and start to act, you could have stopped the virus without knowing the truth. Just look at China's bordering countries. They are less advanced but doing so much better.

Air travel is another leak but it can be prevented. That is what 14 days quarantine does. You can track and escort a person to the dedicated facility the minute the visitor step out of the gate to make sure there is no leak.

One reason they are arguing is because even the what one would consider the correct position is "leaky" sometimes. For example, if you read my above description, you can see how quarantine is done can vary greatly. The reason quarantine does not work is because it has leaks so it is not done right. One reason it works in China is because China will take away the infected from their family members and put them in a special quarantine facility. They are making the healthy stay in the healthy container, and the infected in the infected container until they recover. Basically, you need to think about leak and plug them, then it will work. In some other countries, all living essentials will be delivered to the infected so they don't have to go out and it help reduce infections.