Stupid shit in Medellin

[Balboa]

Yes I did, and than the Pandemic hit, and Colombia was one of the very few countries wide open after only eight months while SEA basically only opened up this year, so a lot of mongers who would frequent SEA started showing up here and when finding out how inexpensive it is, more and more have shown up and polluted mongering for the foreigners

Unfortunately though there is not much that can done about this except to convene a grand jury of Medellin mongers, and if I am found culpable in the demise of mongering here I guess send me off to prison somewhere. LOL.

I do remember when you were posting daily about el Centro, and highly encouraging guys to come.

I was thinking, nooooo, stop! LOL.

Not your fault obviously, this invasion. Only partially, LOL.

I have learned to keep my mouth shut when I find a new great place.

I travel all thru Brazil and I selfishly like to keep it good.

Just reminiscing, I remember when Cartagena was a true gem of a place.

I also remember when Cali was the hot spot for chasing girls in Colombia and Medellin was never visited, being far too dangerous.

I discovered Medellin on a whim many moons ago, and being a gringo was a true novelty.

I still enjoy it, it's just way different now.

Enjoy!

When does the Grand Jury convene? LOL.

[Surfer500]

Interesting. You are the one who promoted the veracruz / Botero area on this site everyday and told mongers to come.

Yes I did, and than the Pandemic hit, and Colombia was one of the very few countries wide open after only eight months while SEA basically only opened up this year, so a lot of mongers who would frequent SEA started showing up here and when finding out how inexpensive it is, more and more have shown up and polluted mongering for the foreigners.

From my perspective, and for guys who have been mongering in Centro here for at least five years, they know how different things are here now.

As an example, I have a friend who has been staying in Centro for the past two months. He seems to be only going with Venezuelans, and he complains that they always want more money, have body odor issues, and other bullshit, albeit the Colombians due way less.

Prior to the Pandemic, the Venezuelan SW's where not in the majority of workers around Centro, but now they are, and at that time they would constantly undercut the Colombians. Well now they weigh out number the Colombians working Centro, and with the onslaught of new mongers who can't believe they could be getting pussy for less than $ 10 USD, along with all their reports, and bingo, here we are today, which you really can't blame on me. LOL.

Another example of how shitty it can be nowadays. On Friday night I took a stroll with some buddies around Veracruz at 8 PM.

One Vennie was with two other friends and was very aggressive and wanted me to take her. I politely told her I had no leche and no desire but she said it's not important that you can't leche and to take her because she needed money. All kind of bullshit and apparently she's probably duped some other gringos who I can only imagine had bad sessions, but wouldn't be trying this stuff with a local.

I don't remember the Colombian SW's prior to the Pandemic being as hard core as some of the Venezuelan SW's are today.

But I don't blame them, and respect them as they are just trying to make a living.

I told my friend he would have better luck with the Colombians.

So for many of the board members who recently started mongering here, they don't know how different it was prior to the Pandemic. And for many they think this place is the best thing since sliced bread.

Unfortunately though there is not much that can done about this except to convene a grand jury of Medellin mongers, and if I am found culpable in the demise of mongering here I guess send me off to prison somewhere. LOL.

[JjBee62]

Originally it was to contact them for repeat sessions if I wanted to fuck them agn. But now a days especially after they show their colors I'm just straight blocking them on all platforms.

Honestly lately especially since August, when I got back, I've been seeing more Paisas and Santandereanas as opposed to venecas and I am much more satisfied with their level of service and also they never ask for free money either.

So you've already found a solution to the problem? Why rant about it?

For the record, plenty of Paisas behave in exactly the same way. Over the years I've blocked dozens of them. Scams, attempted thefts, bullshit pity stories. I've heard them all. I'm sure long-term visitors to any other mongering destination deal with the same shit.

It's not about Venezuela. It's about poverty. Worldwide there are 4 main responses to poverty that I can think of:

1. Surrender to it. The lifeless folks begging for change and spending what they collect on their addiction of choice fall here.

2. Exploit it. Find other people in the same situation and use them to pull yourself out of poverty. Pimps, gang leaders, traffickers etc.

3. Attack it. Steal, scam, kill, whatever it takes to get what others have. Don't give a damn about who gets hurt. There's some overlap with group 2.

4. Overcome it. These are the people who work, scrimp and save, hoping they don't fall victim to groups 2 or 3, trying to make a better life. Most don't succeed.

[Gabacho]

Where are you finding the crooks and thieves? Most of the Venezuelans that I come into contact with are in the service industry (restaurants, salons, barber shops, etc) and I have never had them trying to rip me off. This is in Brazil, Colombia, Peru, Chile, and the Dominican Republic. I have dated several that have normal jobs and did not ask me for anything. If you are finding crooks and thieves among people that are doing street shit, then that is to be expected with any nationality.

Let's see, how about the pregnant lesbian dyke chick that stole my laptop and camera out of my backpack on my first day of my Jan thru March trip, she was Venezuelan. You see I have first hand experiences to back up my claims. I'm not just talking out my ass like MB1 would do.

Also I know a lot of them personally, I too have dated several of them evn gone with them to Guatapé, etc. And like I said not all are bad some are good honest people. My handyman dude was honest, there's a taxi driver from Maracaibo I met that was honest, many food vendors as well that are honest. But those are in the minority. The majority of the Venezuelan migrants tend to be "the people doing street shit."

[Blue Touch]

When I'm in Centro I stay clear of other gringos.

Unfortunately because of the onslaught of the new mongers here who used to frequent SEA, and from many others places since the Pandemic, these new mongers since Colombia opened up eight months after the Pandemic have changed many things for foreign mongers in Centro now.

Sometimes I see these mongers as though I was somewhere in SEA who typically have a beer in one hand, and a Cigarette in the other.

Some of them, but not all of them I find disgusting, not only by their personal habits and appearance, but with there dealings with the SW's, and the locals who frequent Centro daily, hence leaving what I call a tarnished image for all of the foreign mongers here of which many are good guys.

As a result of this, the mongering environment is very different than before the Pandemic.

And it's not just the older mongers but also the younger mongers who have contributed to tarnishing all the foreign mongers, as though we have a stigma.

Interesting. You are the one who promoted the veracruz / Botero area on this site everyday and told mongers to come.

[MateoCast98]

Nowadays, I think all the men fuck bareback in Colombia. I do only bareback and all the girls on facebook are OK to fuck with me without condom. Only few of them ask me more money. Same for the botero girls, usually they asK 50 000 pesos + 50 000 for BBFS. Even the pornstars in Colobia accept without any hesitation but are mucho more expensive.

Today, nobody use condoms in Colombia. It's over!

Which pornstars for example? Are you talking about the really popular onlyfans crowd or the child on pornhub. Feel free to DM if you don't want to post here.

[Mr Enternational]

Why are you standing up for these venecas anyways?? While there are some who are honest hard working people, the vast majority of them are crooks and thieves just looking for the next way to get over on people.

Even the Colombians don't want them here.

Where are you finding the crooks and thieves? Most of the Venezuelans that I come into contact with are in the service industry (restaurants, salons, barber shops, etc) and I have never had them trying to rip me off. This is in Brazil, Colombia, Peru, Chile, and the Dominican Republic. I have dated several that have normal jobs and did not ask me for anything. If you are finding crooks and thieves among people that are doing street shit, then that is to be expected with any nationality.

[The Tall Man]

Why are you standing up for these venecas anyways?? While there are some who are honest hard working people, the vast majority of them are crooks and thieves just looking for the next way to get over on people.

Even the Colombians don't want them here.

Ditto that!

TTM.

[TjBrazil]

Let's be honest most hookers are lazy. I'll never forget this hooker I met at Adelitas 10 years ago. She spoke perfect English and was getting ready to retire, paid cash for a house and car. She told me "all these girls are lazy. It's easy money to lay on your back" "don't believe that they are all poor and can't find a job so they become hookers. " LOL. She was funny as hell.

[Gabacho]

Why do you give women like that a way to contact you? I can understand fucking them, if that's what you like, but is there a need to give them your number?

I've always found women who ask for money are easy to deal with. You either give them money, or you tell them "no. " Same with the beggars on the street.

Originally it was to contact them for repeat sessions if I wanted to fuck them agn. But now a days especially after they show their colors I'm just straight blocking them on all platforms.

Honestly lately especially since August, when I got back, I've been seeing more Paisas and Santandereanas as opposed to venecas and I am much more satisfied with their level of service and also they never ask for free money either.

[Mr Enternational]

I heard this guy loudly bragging in a casa the other day. He spoke how Medellin has a bunch of cheap pussy

He was in a HOARHOUSE, not a library or church. Next shocker: People that have the nerve to enter a hospital when they are sick.

[Elvis 2008]

My life usually keeps me smiling.

And you were smiling when you were getting into massive debt, getting drunk, and hitting rock bottom when you lived in Medellin. Hell, you bragged about getting hot water.

The bitterness with you happens when people do better than you. You are so egotistical you do not think it is possible for someone to do better.

They are from a Spanish speaking country. They are in a Spanish speaking country Except for a rare few who speak English, they can't "refuse" to speak a language they don't know. Next you'll be complaining because cows refuse to lay eggs.

And this is so you. You say something everyone knows and act like you discovered a cure for cancer. Colombia is a Spanish speaking country? This is why I call you Professor Shit for Brains.

For the record, my future step daughter knows English better than her mother but I have never heard her speak it. In her case, I think it is because she is embarrassed she might say something wrong. And my gal's friends vary from not having accents to accents so thick they do not want to speak English even when they know it. So I get what DF is talking about, but maybe having and spreading Covid did something to your brain, and it is even lower wattage now.

If you find Colombian women to be so terrible and worthless, why in the fuck would you be seeking them out in Mexico?

He is not. He blocks them, and I get why. Colombian women are prized by Mexican men, and the women get huge egos there. He is seeing the same thing from Colombian women in Mexico he saw in Medellin.

As for the rest of your complaint, maybe there's a reason why they all appear lazy to you. Hard work usually comes from inspiration. If they're all lazy around you, it's got to be because there's nothing about you to interest them. Quite the opposite. In general, Colombians are vivacious, energetic and friendly. Your presence must literally suck the life right out of them.

And I still can't figure out where jealousy comes into the picture. The only time any girl has a reason to be jealous is if you have made some sort of commitment to her. Why make commitments to hookers? If you're making commitments to hookers, why aren't you keeping them?

And this is why no one should listen to you. You (and Viliany is the other one) are so full of shit about Colombian people. You go between hookers and people like they are one in the same. On this very thread, we got guys talking about carrying batons because they have been robbed so fucking much by hookers and non-hookers. The only other place I have seen or heard this much shit is in Brazil and if they do scope people there, what I can say is I have never heard about it.

Viliany is so fucking stupid he said cabbies do not rip people off when they do it all the time and even to Colombians. He said he doubted it happened to me because it never happened to him. It happens to EVERYONE in Colombia. You are doing the same bullshit with DF you are doing with me. Colombians are lazy? You must be the problem DF. Ha! What kind of people rob and drug others to get ahead? Hard working ones? God, you are dumb.

DF was clear that his experience was limited just to Medellin and while I will say I had more luck there than he did because I used seeking, the truth is the best women I had in Medellin were not from there. The women from there were more often than not excessively image conscious, greedy, drug using, and lazy. And that is not just my opinion and his. Paisas are ridiculed for their behaviors by other Colombians.

The truth is the Colombian elite, which you think you are an expert on because you talked to one person one time, are filled with people who are ethical, hard working, and intelligent. Among the men though, they cheat like hell and unlike the men, the women get mountains of shit for it when they do it, so I have not seen all these great virtues even among the elites you are talking about. The truth is that the elite Colombian women often seek out foreign men because they are so badly treated.

And yeah, I have seen the jealousy issue raise its ugly head at times. Unlike DF, I have not seen it as badly as he has though with Colombians in comparison to other women, so this may be one experience where we have seen different things, but at least he is on Planet Earth whereas you are on fucking Pluto.

[Gabacho]

They voted for it! Chavez Chavez Chavez then it was Duro Maduro. That's a wealthy country natural resources wise. Noone but their own fault.

Exactly, back in the day Venezuela was a very wealthy country, in fact poor Colombians used to go there to look for economic opportunities instead of the venecos coming over here.

But then they voted for Chavez and Maduro and their country went to hell in a hand basket real fast. And now just how their own government is stealing from them, they're going to other countries and stealing from their neighbors.

Many (but not all) are thieves, crooks, ladrones whatever you want to call them. The men resort to selling drugs and stealing, while the women resort to prostitution and extortion.

The recent uptick in crime in Medellin (and Colombia as a whole) can be attributed to Venezuelan migrants. From Colombia to Peru they travel, scheming and scamming wherever they go. Just look on Spanish language chat forums and comments on YouTube videos, etc. And you will see that all these other south america countries do not want them there.

There's even a Venezuelan organized crime group called Tren de Aragua that is pimping out their own women and girls in Peru, where they promise the girls free travel and free room and board and free cell phones and shit, but when they get to Peru they become "multadas" and basically have to fuck upwards of 20 peruanos a day for free while the Tren de Aragua dudes keep all their money and their 4 month old babies are still starving regardless, and those are the kind of people crossing the Darien and central America and Mexico and entering the US. And Joe Biden is welcoming them with open arms when they arrive. There's several that I know of that have even made it to NYC and by the looks of the pics they post on facebook they appear to be prostituting in NYC as well.

So please Sir JusTK, please do enlighten us as to why you are standing up for these dirty venecas??

[DoomBringer321]

Why are you standing up for these venecas anyways?? While there are some who are honest hard working people, the vast majority of them are crooks and thieves just looking for the next way to get over on people.

Even the Colombians don't want them here.

As a former migrant myself in my case to the US, I can tell you the migrant mindset works something like this "I don't want to be in. Working a couple of decades and never have a sense of. I want to go to. To make my dreams come true" even if the statistics don't show it however the particular case with Venezuela is to a degree annoying and it's not their fault but there are reasons for this, the windfall of Oil artificially inflated Venezuelan economy it was a bubble economy for decades I remember going to college and having to work 3 jobs to make ends met and that was even with VA loans, these Venezuelans had grants afforded to them by the state some even came to Miami on vacation on a regular basis, there were no waves of Venezuelan migrants in the 90's fast forward 20 years a Socialist populist which created wealth redistribution system an economic embargo plus plummeting oil prices and you have the current results, however most of the young population did not grow up with hardship they never had a hustle mindset, they found themselves in that situation and their solutions was migration true but these are not, young cuban entrepreneurs with education that came to MIA after a government seized property, nor are they intellectual eastern europeans who wanted a better system, nor are they Mexicans from the lower class who have a do or die work ethic that makes up for whatever shortcoming that they have, these Venezuelans came from something remember the opulance of their childhood and found themselves without food through no fault of their own so they reasonably migrated but these are not your typical put you nose to the grindstone migrants, I have talked to Colombians, Peruvians, Chileans and Ecuadorians which is where I live all agree that Venezuelans have an attitude not all certainly but it's hard to explain, it's like when you have a work assignment in a prison you can't malinger because there is disciplinary repercussion you want your good days so you get out early and you are property of the state till your sentence is done so you do you work detail, not exactly enthusiastically and that is basically the attitude of all of the venezuelans who migrated they never wanted to live the "dream" they were perfectly happy being in wherever in Venezuela till the circumstances forced them to, in the case of other migration waves for example say Haiti, huricannes come destroyed your home you migrate you don't to go back, Cuba comunism and class warfare comes new rules you don't want to go back, Colombia if you were in the area where the rebels operated you don't want to pay tribute to the rebels nor do you want you children to be forced soldiers solution migrate wherever.

Venezuelans never really wanted to leave nor did they have a nomad spirit and because of the oil revenues never had to develop entrepreneurs because the government subsidized a lot, and the ones that actually had something in Venezuela they are the worst entitled to the nth degree they all talk about the good all days, and everyone had a cat and a dog 2 vacations homes and even a dinosaur as pets in their home country they are certainly not your typical migrant that is willing to work 16 hours without a break, the few that have an entrepreneur spirit sell food, juice or trinkets and they seem happy and are the least likely to go back IMHO, now that the US has lifted some aspects of their sanctions for geopolitical reasons and since they were forced to diversify their suppliers of goods and services because of the US embargo buying shit from Russia and China, this has caused their economy to stabilize and a lot of migrants are actually returning, I will certainly be happy to see fewer people ask me for handouts it will lessen my paranoia and lessen the chance of me having to send their countrymen to the hospital which I have done more than I care to remember since the migration crisis started.

[JjBee62]

With all due respect JusTK, you obviously don't know what the hell you are talking about. Obviously the ones crossing the Darien Gap to work in the USA are not lazy. They aren't the ones asking for free money, they are too busy waking through the jungle and probably don't even have signal or battery power on their phones.

No JusTK, the ones I'm talking about are in fact lazy, they spend all their money on Tussi, Cartujo Anis, and Marijuana, and/or give it to their just as lazy boyfriends then they have the nerve to ask for free money from their clientes when they haven't worked because they were up all night partying. They tend to live in pagadiarios in the Prado Centro area, not in Panama, those are the ones I'm referring to.

So next time do a little research before you open your mouth.

Why do you give women like that a way to contact you? I can understand fucking them, if that's what you like, but is there a need to give them your number?

I've always found women who ask for money are easy to deal with. You either give them money, or you tell them "no. " Same with the beggars on the street.