Stupid shit in Medellin

[JohnnieCash]

The Veracruz Church was established over 300 years ago, and I suspect there have been hookers plying their trade around the Church for more than a century, yet the end is near...

We are living in different age though, information can travel around the world in milliseconds, so it doesn't take much for the proverbial cat to be out of the bag (PSA -- remember to slap your local youtuber LOL).

Not to mention most of the information is being saved / archived and searchable.

Add to that airplanes and the world is getting smaller, a global village.

Also with more and more men not being chained to the physical location with remote work options greatly accelerated by covid (when even the average non-tech Joe was forced all of the sudden to work remotely and now the precedent was set) and bad / expensive local pussy market, more and more will choose Colombia for extended periods of time.

Plus there are favorable cost of living factors, and the weather.

Through fact that nobody speaks English here and all the drugging and robbery might be stopping the wave a bit.

End of Centro? Probably not. Will it be getting better? Probably not either.

Many girls choose Centro because although Poblado has bigger pay, it's very irregular. And bills and hunger are quite regular (and we all know their financial saving skills).

[JjBee62]

I agree with this statement since he appears to be the only one that have girls with visa to visit him in US.

I'm sure I'm not the only one. Maybe the only 1 posting in the Colombia forums. I've got a few girls in my contacts who occasionally post from US locations.

[Surfer500]

Get your licks in now Surfer! Centro is terminally ill and will be gone within five years.

Yeah I know, as a result of my actions, and my actions alone starting about 8 years ago when I began summoning mongers from around the World to come to Centro, and they have been coming in droves like locusts, almost like pilgrims.

The Veracruz Church was established over 300 years ago, and I suspect there have been hookers plying their trade around the Church for more than a century, yet the end is near as a result of my call for all able bodied mongers to come to Centro.

Perhaps the Colombian Government will give me some type of award for causing the demise and end of prostitution at this venue which the Government has been unable to do.

[Mr Enternational]

I said you are not financially or emotionally committed. You and JJBee are off spending your time and money on other women and care about pleasing them more than your "girlfriends".

Wrong again genius. I am off spending my time and money on myself! My own kid is grown and does not ask me for shit. You think I am taking care of some broad then you have lost your damn mind. Commit MY money to a chick? Elvis: you stupid.

[Mr Enternational]

You parade around all superior to others for getting laid without paying for it when you are paying with time. You are oblivious to the fact that for other guys the reason they pay is that it is cheaper than wooing a woman like you do because for them time equals money.

Once again some dumb Elvis shit. So guys pay because they rather spend their time working than talking to women? Uhh what is the problem with doing both? And what about retired men that pay? Not that I am superior because I know how to talk to women and can fuck them for free, but maybe it just boils down to my time management skills since I also work and make money. But from your viewpoint, nobody that works fucks women for free, because they don't have time?

Are these guys also not sleeping and not taking shits because time is money and they are not going to waste it in bed or on the toilet the way you consider talking to women as wasting it? The more you write the dumber you sound.

I never said that I was wooing anybody, unless by wooing you mean talking. We all have our priorities. If yours is money money money instead of fostering relationships then that is your choice. Once again, to some people relationships mean more than money. And once again some people can do both; it is not an either or.

[Nounce]

...You are in a league by yourself. ...

I agree with this statement since he appears to be the only one that have girls with visa to visit him in US.

[JustTK]

The critical juncture is here. I have been gone 2 years and have lost 5% of the number of girls

The thing is, this is all made up in your head, both the number and the assessment. People find the girls less attractive simply bcos they get used to them. They are just not blown away by the false positive emotion they felt the first time.

As for AC, I always thought the quality of girls was prett low. Wanting bikinis, well that's just your own subjective preference. Not mine. Not the majority. Cheap girls you can still find down the far end or outside of the big clubs. Its only ruined if you allow it be that way in your mind.

[Elvis 2008]

Man stop being disingenuous. When someone says paying you know exactly they do not mean paying with time.

Are you 10 years old? Grown men do not have to hope someone has sex with them.

You parade around all superior to others for getting laid without paying for it when you are paying with time. You are oblivious to the fact that for other guys the reason they pay is that it is cheaper than wooing a woman like you do because for them time equals money. Do you get time equals money is something that is true for a "grown man" not a 10 year old? Again, here you go parading around all superior while you are being immature.

The Book of Elvis is a damn fool. It states that a woman is only to be called a girlfriend if the guy is not seeing anyone else AND is giving her money.

I said you are not financially or emotionally committed. You and JJBee are off spending your time and money on other women and care about pleasing them more than your "girlfriends".

Truth is when you and JJBee parade around with the term GF, all you are doing is showing everyone you are arrogant POS liars. He has a sugar baby and you have a friend with benefits, and everyone knows it.

[Elvis 2008]

As I understand it, a SD / SB arrangement is an informal arrangement with a clearly defined payment or support structure for the man, along with the man's expectations for the woman. The difference between a sugar baby and a hooker is the difference between renting an furnished apartment and renting a hotel room. One gets paid monthly, the other daily. Since you insist I have a sugar baby, what's the arrangement?

SMH. Three times I went to Senior Frog's with one, two, and three women in tow. I was not serious with any of them at the time. SF's has funny signs they put up behind their customers. Three times they put the sign sugar daddy behind me, and three times, they were right.

When I kissed my much younger GF goodbye, a cab driver told me, "You have a pretty GF" which again was on target.

You can insert your personal insult like you always do here, but the point is these people correctly knew what kind of relationships I had just from the vibes the women and I gave off.

Sure. Holy Bible. King James Version. Old Testament. I'll leave it to you to find all the references.

And so if you went to Senior Frog's the sign would read "In a Biblical relationship" versus "sugardaddy"?

Yeah, you would think that.

[LoveItHere]

Get your licks in now Surfer! Centro is terminally ill and will be gone within five years.

The critical juncture is here. I have been gone 2 years and have lost 5% of the number of girls and 5% of the top girls since returning. This lower quality has been mentioned in endless posts in all areas (street, spas, Poblado). Also, all the Youtube, instagram, twitter videos and posts bringing more and more guys here. Same has been said about hotel and AirBnB room prices going up. Locals are not doing this.

So if Centro lost the top 5% in 2 years. This accelerates another 5% in the next 1. 5 years, 5% in 1 years, and lastly 5% in 6 months. That comes to losing the top 20% in 5 years. Once the hottest 20% are gone then no foreigners are coming to Centro thus dead in my estimation. The girls are learning the ropes more and more quickly now. The girls I was with just a weeks ago asking me for higher prices is just testing the waters because some fool paid high for them or one of their friends. Their mode of operation is changing and it will accelerate.

I was there in Angeles City (Philippines) when critical mass happened with the Koreans. That took 10 years but they were buying up Girlie Bars which takes more time and money. They now own half of the bars with girls in them. Nothing needs to be bought in Centro, just pay higher fees to the girls. Much simpler and faster. Angeles City (PH) now has half the number of bars and the quality has dropped, prices increased, and average ages of the girls has risen by 4+ years, the girls wear more clothes on stage, and fewer girls on stage now. We want bikinis. The Koreans want the girls dressed in dresses. If you have any buddies you know who used to visit there then ask them. I lived there 2. 5 years when critical mass happened. Had a buddy from Korea at that time too. His flight was only 4. 5 hours so he could easily visit on a 3 day weekend.

[Knowledge]

Get your licks in now Surfer! Centro is terminally ill and will be gone within five years.

Not sure about your prediction based on your estimate that locals make up 95% of the Centro girls customers, but seems reasonable.

So based on your estimate, are your saying that 5% of the gringos will drive the pricing so high in Centro for both locals and gringos, that the majority of the Centro girls will jump to Poblado.

The customers who pull in Pobaldo are not going to go with the majority of girls of work Centro as they not very desirable.

The "jump" of girls from Centro to Poblado has been taking place for several months now, and the quality is not all that great, and I doubt it can become any more saturated, especially with more fat and ugly girls from Centro.

Also, based on the majority of the clients being locals in Centro, my prediction is pricing won't change much in Centro except for inflation.

And also something you may not be aware of, but the locals do control pricing to a certain degree in Centro.

If you spend much time in Centro and observe how the locals interact with the girls, a lot of times a local will go up to a girl, and then after a short period of time will walk away..

[JjBee62]

It is not according to me. If you are helping out a woman you care about and are seeing other women, she is a sugar baby. If the woman is not getting a financial reward, you can call her a fuck buddy or a friend with benefits. All these terms though have negative connotations, and you all know that.

GF and wife have positive societal connotations, and you all know that and that is why you want to use them. If you have a woman who you call GF and she says that she does not mind you fucking other women, that just means the two of you have gotten together and tried to redefine its meaning. Show me one mainstream source that says it is okay to have a GF and fuck hookers on the side.

Sure. Holy Bible. King James Version. Old Testament. I'll leave it to you to find all the references.

OTOH, there is no societal expectation of monogamy with a FWB, fuck buddy, john, or sugar baby.

Mr. E's definitions do not allow for sugar babies. There are hookers and not hookers, and a sugar baby is not any different from a hooker. Hookers take money for sex and non hookers do not. JJBee has derided sugar daddies as suckers who pay Colombian women who do not have sex so he wants to use the term GF instead of sugar baby when that is exactly what his "girlfriend" is.

And Mr. E are you paying your "girlfriend" with time? And is part of the time you spend with her in hopes of being charming enough so that she will have sex with you? And doesn't time equal money? So stop with the bullshit about I am not paying a "grown ass woman". You are paying. You are paying with time, and for a lot of us but maybe not you, time equals money.

As I understand it, a SD / SB arrangement is an informal arrangement with a clearly defined payment or support structure for the man, along with the man's expectations for the woman. The difference between a sugar baby and a hooker is the difference between renting an furnished apartment and renting a hotel room. One gets paid monthly, the other daily.

Sticking with the analogy, a girlfriend is the equivalent of a long-term lease, of an unfurnished residence, and a wife is a mortgage. For both you start with a basic structure and furnish it to your liking.

Neither situation precludes you from occasionally spending the night in a hotel. According to the Kinsey Institute, 23% of men and 19% of women in committed relationships admitted to infidelity. It's not uncommon.

Since you insist I have a sugar baby, what's the arrangement? In order to make such a declaration, you have to know the details of the arrangement. Otherwise you're just doing the Elvis, babbling incoherently about shit you know nothing about.

[JjBee62]

What status and ego? I have had girlfriends since I was a teenager. It is just like breathing. You must be one of those late bloomers and to you getting a girlfriend is really something spectacular for you to think that having one boosts one's status or ego.

You still never answered what Mr. Faithful to one woman is doing posting on a hooker board everyday. The attention that you constantly give to us could be better used on your one and only. But I am sure that you have already told her about this website and that you post on it everyday, being that she is a REAL girlfriend and all. I know she gave it her stamp of approval, since you are running around worrying about what everybody else's girlfriend knows.

I'm beyond baffled here. How does having a girlfriend, or saying you have a girlfriend, boost your status? What status? I guess if we were on the "I've never had a girlfriend" website it might boost it.

It's a hooker information exchange platform. Whether or not someone has a girlfriend is useless trivia. If someone asks where to buy viagra, does having a girlfriend improve my answer?

"Go to any drugstore, and since I have a girlfriend you know that's the best answer. ".

[DramaFree11]

All the women don't want me. I've never made that claim. I spent almost a full year cultivating contacts, meeting women, getting referrals, and generally making a good impression. I spent another 2 years weeding out the bad and selectively adding the good. After that I spent at least 6 months seeking out women who were completely off the gringo radar, most of them were not in any way involved with P4 P.

I've spent money on many women without paying them for sex. Christmas presents for family members, buying drinks for friends, giving change to homeless women, helping girls fix various household or automotive problems. The list goes on. Does your mom suck your dick when you buy her a Mother's Day card? I guess my family is different. We just say "thanks."

I've bought meals and given small gifts to girls I've dated. Sometimes the dates led to sex, sometimes not. Are you saying, if I take a girl to a cheap diner, buy her lunch and then a few weeks later we bump into each other at a bar, have a few drinks, each buying their own, then decide to fuck, I paid her for sex?

Truth is you know nothing about women. Although replacing "women" with any subject doesn't change the accuracy of the statement.

I think I see. I'm supposed to ask for permission to fuck? Is that right? I don't do that. However, I can understand it from a guy who thinks he has to earn the right to fuck a girl. What I do outside of any relationship, I do because I want to, and I don't ask permission. The same if my wife cooks only lactose free meals, and I decide to stop somewhere for a milkshake. I don't beg her to let me have a milkshake, I don't tell her I had a milkshake. If it would bother her, I'll brush my teeth before going home.

There are other options. If you weren't such a clueless whiner, you could have come up with something much better. Maybe I'm the one not worthy. That was the case at least once in the past. I wasn't prepared to commit, but committed anyway and it fell apart.

However, in this situation, I'm not seeking a monogamous relationship. Biologically humans aren't evolved for monogamy. All the current couples I know, who have been married for 30+ years have engaged in some form of extramarital sex. Someone who has repeatedly talked about having a harem shouldn't be stupid enough to point the finger here. But, if there's 1 thing you excel in, it's being stupid enough for any situation.

The gibberish of Elvis is truly something to behold.

So all women are hookers, right? That's what you're saying.

1. All women fuck for money. "As far as what a hooker is versus a "regular" woman is not that she fucks for money. That is all women.

2. Sugar Babies fuck for money, but have a relationship with the sugar daddy.

3. Hookers fuck for money, but don't have a relationship.

4. The difference between a hooker and a regular GF or wife is that the hooker doesn't have a relationship.

Ergo, all women are hookers. Some hookers have relationships. It baffles me how you can write it down, read through it and have no clue what you just said.

Girlfriends and wives quite often fuck other men. I can attest to that because I've fucked a lot of wives and girlfriends. There are even wives and girlfriends who work as hookers. I've fucked some of them too.

Oh Elvis! Just like Mami'sBoy, your inability to understand objectivity prevents you from ever being right. Well, that, your inability to remember basic details, your insistence on twisting reality to coincide with your warped beliefs and your sub 90 IQ also contribute.

This all began because your fuck buddy DramaQueen stated that all of the college girls he talked to on seeking didn't have computers, and when he asked if they needed computers, all of them said "no. " Either almost all were not college girls, or it's just another DramaQueen fantasy.

I pointed out the ridiculousness of every college girl refusing a free computer and Mami'sBoy boy decided to change the subject to "how he fucks college girls" and I only fuck trash. He's been unwilling to address the DQ inconsistency of college girls refusing free computers. Instead, he chose to make the discussion about my GF.

No bragging on my part (another Elvis deja vu moment. Everything I explain to you, feels like I've had to explain a dozen times before). How is "I have a girlfriend" bragging? They're easy to get. I've had dozens. If I mention that I have a car, is that also bragging?

You really should have been a baseball player, although obviously not a pinch runner, because you're batting 1. 000 on getting things wrong.

I've had 3 wives. The first had a boyfriend (unknown to me) the whole time. I only fucked her during the marriage. The second wife I cheated on a few times, before the cancer which killed her returned. She never cheated on me. The third wife, might have cheated on me. Once we separated, I was fucking lots of women before the divorce went through.

I did have a casual girlfriend for a few years and we frequently went to a swingers club, although we had limited interactions with others. When I was in town, maybe every 6 weeks, for 2 or 3 days, I was her boyfriend. The rest of the time we did our own thing.

Several years later I had a girlfriend and we were swingers. We went to swingers clubs, house parties and hotel parties together. We even hosted a few couples at our place. We were same-room swingers. Usually we would go with 1 other couple, sometimes 2 or 3 couples. The girls would typically have some fun together before the guys joined in. We would swap partners, or just stay with our partner. Each time we made the decision together. At the end of the night, we'd go back home.

Swinging successfully requires trust and a suppression of ego. You can't be insecure. It's not something you could ever handle. I'm not really sure how she could be considered a sugar baby. We always split all household expenses, although I usually paid for date nights.

Still batting, or babbling 1. 000.

Hollywood hasn't told me anything. I've rarely watched TV for 30 years. An occasional movie, some sports. When I wanted to get laid and have fun, I didn't work on my looks. I just talked to women. Some wanted relationships, some wanted to get laid and have fun. It's quite simple. About 90% of the women in the world want to have sex with men. Instead of going on sites where women are looking for johns or sugar daddies, I've always just talked to women. Turns out, if you can make them laugh and your breath doesn't stink, most women are happy to talk.

When I don't want to deal with that, I choose a prostitute and pay her.

I'm thinking of 3 couples. Two have been married for more than 50 years, the other over 30 years. All 3 started married life with nothing, just a job. All struggled for years, together. Two couples are retired comfortably with modest incomes. The third struggled for years, had some rough patches, before all their hard work paid off. They'll retire in a few years with a substantial income.

If you want a sugar daddy / sugar baby relationship work on making money, because the only thing holding the girl to you is the money. If you want a real relationship, work on the relationship. Of course, you first have to work on you. You have to be someone who offers more than just money.

That's not just bullshit, it's self-deprecating insanity. In other words, your girl is only with you for your money. There's nothing she likes about you, and if the money stops, or some guy offers more, she's spreading her legs for someone else.

My way, she doesn't get my money. If the relationship doesn't provide me with what I want from the relationship, I walk away. I don't give more money to try and keep her. That's just pathetic. Then again, I don't provide her with a place to live, don't pay her expenses and don't give her a monthly allowance.

It is her right to consent or not. What kind of shitstain would question that? That's rhetorical, because everyone knows what kind of shitstain you are.

It's her right to consent. It's my right to get consent. That's what men do. Giving her more money is a sad way to go about things, which is what you said you had to do to get your girl. And you're saying it again, make money to get a relationship, use money to maintain the relationship.

I just use smiles. She's smiling when I see her and I keep her smiling. If I can't make her smile, and vice versa, I don't try to buy a smile, I pack my bags and go.

Ah. Is that Simps Anonymous, the Incel Commandos?

You're like Charlie Brown begging Lucy to pull the ball away.

I equate sex with money, when I'm conducting a straight sex for money transaction. Anything else is necessarily more complicated. Am I just looking for a one time thing, or a semi-regular encounter. Am I looking for a relationship. How much time and effort will it take? Will it be worth it?

If I'm in a relationship and the sex stops, I don't try to solve the problem with money. If the problem is solved by money, I was never in a relationship. Why did the sex stop? Is there a viable solution? Is it worth the effort?

The "if your wife isn't putting out, dump her" advice is the advice of children, emotionally undeveloped adults who still think like pre-pubescent brats. It's "I'll just take my toys and go home. ".

Adults, specifically those who deserve to be called men, don't crawl away crying when they encounter problems. They fix them. Some problems can't be fixed, some aren't worth fixing. But bawling your head off and walking away from the problem is disgusting. Stock up on maxi-pads, because you're about to begin ovulating.

Maybe everything about the relationship is great, except the sex is lacking. Has she lost desire? Menopause will do that, something you'll soon be dealing with. Did you stop putting in the effort? If it can't be fixed, find yourself outside options and keep the happy relationship. Unless you think a relationship is only about money, there's a great deal more.

Solutions require thought and effort, 2 things you're incapable of.

I never said they did not have a computer. I said they never have with them. I also said there computer skills are way behind Euros and Americans.

You are in a league by yourself. You could learn a few things from Elvis and M. Boy, but you are just too jealous and dumb. You are the loser hanging out in Colombia, while the 3 of us have been traveling the world. Me not so much anymore I stick with Mxico, I have hit the jackpot traveling between MTY / CDMX, while you complain and make shit up.

[JustTK]

It is not according to me.
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You say no then proceed to argue yes. You are ine circular and contrary individual.