Stupid shit in Medellin

[JustTK]

If you spend much time in Centro and observe how the locals interact with the girls, a lot of times a local will go up to a girl, and then after a short period of time will walk away.

Oh is that what happens. I thought the guys were asking if they had a pene, and when they say no, they walk away.

[Elvis 2008]

I have to agree, Venz. Chicks are even lazier than Colombian women which is very hard to do. They are striving for big and fat asses, but the Colombian bodies are much better.

I had a Venz. Chick work for me briefly a today disaster.

My gal's father hired a Vennie for his farm, and he was hurt when the Vennie stole from him. I felt for him. I got ripped off by one too, and I made jokes with the father about Vennies.

He had a dog roped up he used for safety purposes. I asked him why he didn't just rope up a Vennie for the job and then I said, "Oh right, the dog is more ethical and less likely to steal from you. " They told me I was being bad but laughed in a way that they were like, "Yeah, that is true. "

We then ran into the grandfather on the mother's side near there, and he had quite the gun collection. I asked him which gun was the best to shoot Vennies, and he laughed and said he didn't shoot them. I think Colombians are close enough to Venezuelans looks wise that they have a lot more compassion for the Vennies than in Peru because Peruvians look so different. The Vennies are super easy to spot in Peru.

And Chavez gave such mixed messages. He chastised people for materialism while stealing the country blind. Thing is when I was in Venezuela I did not see the hotties like I have outside of the country. I did go to the hottest strip club and picked up a the rare spinner there. She was attractive and amazing in bed. When it came time to pay, she would not give me a price. It was like, "If I give you a price, then I am an evil money grubbing capitalist. " That is how Chavez so fucked up the country.

I will say this though DF. All the Vennie women I have had have been good if not great in bed, and the ones in Mexico are not as cocky as the Colombians in Mexico. And there was one really hot Vennie I could have had in CDMX that I blew it with. She surprised me and turned out to be an incredibly honest and ethical person almost as if to compensate for the Vennie reputation.

So while there are exceptions like her, I think guys should just assume a Vennie is a thief until proven otherwise.

[Gabacho]

Then its clearly you that's the lazy bltch. Too lazy to hide your stuff and bltchin about 1 girl as if she represents a whole country.

Actually it was hidden in my backpack, but I don't want to get into the details of all that, I reported on it back when it happened as well as the failed scopolamine attempt. But anyways yes the Venezuelan people are lazy, inherently criminal-minded, thieves and scammers. And you JustTK are a stupid * idiot.

[DramaFree11]

Then its clearly you that's the lazy bltch. Too lazy to hide your stuff and bltchin about 1 girl as if she represents a whole country.

I have to agree, Venz. Chicks are even lazier than Colombian women which is very hard to do. They are striving for big and fat asses, but the Colombian bodies are much better.

I had a Venz. Chick work for me briefly a today disaster.

[JustTK]

Well you go ahead and stand up for them all you want, it's futile. I'm done trying talk any sense into you. And it wasn't cigarettes that were stolen, maybe if your reading comprehension skills were better you would have read that it was a laptop and a camera, not a pack of cigarettes.

Then its clearly you that's the lazy bltch. Too lazy to hide your stuff and bltchin about 1 girl as if she represents a whole country.

[Surfer500]

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The future as I see it.

The gringos keep offering more and more money. I have had 3 girls ask for 100,000 for no condom sex. I declined. Already saw attitude with that offer. There is local and gringo pricing. In the next 2-3 years the gringo price will be twice as high as the local price. So many girls will make the switch to gringos only. The locals will get tired of such high prices and stop coming. Locals make up around 95% of the Centro girl's customers. So a few less customers will cause a few less girls. Less girls will mean a few less customers so then a few less girls. Then the price will be so high that the majority of the Centro girls will make the jump to Poblado. The remaining girls will be only on bar street behind the church with only the too young and the too old available. From there Poblado may have so many girls of the night that the mayor may shut it down. Then all the girls will only be found in strip clubs, casas, and online.

Not sure about your prediction based on your estimate that locals make up 95% of the Centro girls customers, but seems reasonable.

So based on your estimate, are your saying that 5% of the gringos will drive the pricing so high in Centro for both locals and gringos, that the majority of the Centro girls will jump to Poblado.

The customers who pull in Pobaldo are not going to go with the majority of girls of work Centro as they not very desirable.

The "jump" of girls from Centro to Poblado has been taking place for several months now, and the quality is not all that great, and I doubt it can become any more saturated, especially with more fat and ugly girls from Centro.

Also, based on the majority of the clients being locals in Centro, my prediction is pricing won't change much in Centro except for inflation.

And also something you may not be aware of, but the locals do control pricing to a certain degree in Centro.

If you spend much time in Centro and observe how the locals interact with the girls, a lot of times a local will go up to a girl, and then after a short period of time will walk away.

Typically what has happened is that the local made a "offer" below what the SW wanted which typically a lot of the locals do with the SW's.

So the SW's are cognizant of how sensitive pricing can be, and if they all tried to ask for too much would have little to no business.

So the notion that there is going to be a mass exodus of the Centro girls to Poblado in the future is hard to imagine.

And as far as local and gringo pricing, believe it or not, there are gringos here that can and do get "local pricing" in Centro, but they have Spanish speaking skills.

[Elvis 2008]

Also I know a lot of them personally, I too have dated several of them evn gone with them to Guatap, etc. And like I said not all are bad some are good honest people. My handyman dude was honest, there's a taxi driver from Maracaibo I met that was honest, many food vendors as well that are honest. But those are in the minority. The majority of the Venezuelan migrants tend to be "the people doing street shit."

LOL. Gabacho, you are totally right. I was engaged to a Venezuelan. She had a mother who did not steal from the government and prided herself on not doing so. Eventually, the family moved to Peru and left all their stuff behind. I met one of her friends whose father supposedly ripped off the government and they got some of their money out.

The point is Venezuela had a culture of theft. The average Venezuelan felt they lived in a rich country and were only poor because they got ripped off. So the average Venezuelan IMO felt like their stealing was just taking back what they were owed and as in the example above, it was almost like you were foolish if you did not steal.

JustTK thinks all the world's ills are the fault of the USA. Venezuela has more oil than Saudi Arabia, and the reason Venezuela is poor and not rich like Saudi Arabia or even rich like it was is because Hugo Chavez brought in a culture of thieving. He was determined to control the wealth to keep his political opponents in check. Any time any business started making money in Venezuela, he would take it for pennies on the dollar and put his people in command. He claimed these companies were stealing while it was he in fact who was doing the stealing.

And Chavez was an equal opportunity thief. He stole from the USA, Canada, Europe, China, and even Russia. The country should be richer than Saudi Arabia and instead people are eating out of the garbage throughout the country. My ex would send me videos of it and they would make you sick.

Yeah, some people have adapted to Colombia and are honest and hard working, but there are plenty who have taken the culture of stealing with them. It blows me away how the Colombians have taken them in and been so kind given how so many Venezuelans have acted.

[LoveItHere]

I remember you admitted that an increase of gringo in Centro will harm the price structure and the relationship between the girls and western clients a few years ago. Also you knew that the gringos who are likely to come to Centro are those with problematic characters. Still you couldn't stop bragging your "knowledge" and street smartness, and told everybody to come to Centro.

I actually sent a private message to him and two others 7+ months ago that basically said to "shut the F up!" he is unable to do so. He again had to place a price in his response. He convinced maybe 50 - 100 guys to come. Being one of the first and easiest countries to enter after COVID brought in thousands. But the real problem was Youtube, Twitter, and other videos that convinced tens of thousands to come visit.

The game has changed in LaLa Land. That is why the girls are fewer and much harder to find now. No, I will not tell you and slit my own throat.

The future as I see it.

The gringos keep offering more and more money. I have had 3 girls ask for 100,000 for no condom sex. I declined. Already saw attitude with that offer. There is local and gringo pricing. In the next 2-3 years the gringo price will be twice as high as the local price. So many girls will make the switch to gringos only. The locals will get tired of such high prices and stop coming. Locals make up around 95% of the Centro girl's customers. So a few less customers will cause a few less girls. Less girls will mean a few less customers so then a few less girls. Then the price will be so high that the majority of the Centro girls will make the jump to Poblado. The remaining girls will be only on bar street behind the church with only the too young and the too old available. From there Poblado may have so many girls of the night that the mayor may shut it down. Then all the girls will only be found in strip clubs, casas, and online.

[JjBee62]

Well you go ahead and stand up for them all you want, it's futile. I'm done trying talk any sense into you. And it wasn't cigarettes that were stolen, maybe if your reading comprehension skills were better you would have read that it was a laptop and a camera, not a pack of cigarettes.

Personally, my reading comprehension is pretty good, but my memory isn't what it used to be.

Wasn't she the girl you left alone in your apartment while you walked down to find her a taxi?

If so, her being a Venezuelan has nothing to do with it. If you leave any hooker alone in your apartment with anything of value around, chances are, something is going to be stolen. Even leaving 1 alone in a room where there's something valuable, even for a minute, is giving her a green light to grab whatever she can.

My own, limited, experiences with Venezuelan women have been fantastic.

[Blue Touch]

Yes I did, and than the Pandemic hit, and Colombia was one of the very few countries wide open after only eight months while SEA basically only opened up this year, so a lot of mongers who would frequent SEA started showing up here and when finding out how inexpensive it is, more and more have shown up and polluted mongering for the foreigners.

From my perspective, and for guys who have been mongering in Centro here for at least five years, they know how different things are here now.

As an example, I have a friend who has been staying in Centro for the past two months. He seems to be only going with Venezuelans, and he complains that they always want more money, have body odor issues, and other bullshit, albeit the Colombians due way less.

Prior to the Pandemic, the Venezuelan SW's where not in the majority of workers around Centro, but now they are, and at that time they would constantly undercut the Colombians. Well now they weigh out number the Colombians working Centro, and with the onslaught of new mongers who can't believe they could be getting pussy for less than $ 10 USD, along with all their reports, and bingo, here we are today, which you really can't blame on me. LOL.

Another example of how shitty it can be nowadays. On Friday night I took a stroll with some buddies around Veracruz at 8 PM.

One Vennie was with two other friends and was very aggressive and wanted me to take her. I politely told her I had no leche and no desire but she said it's not important that you can't leche and to take her because she needed money. All kind of bullshit and apparently she's probably duped some other gringos who I can only imagine had bad sessions, but wouldn't be trying this stuff with a local.

I don't remember the Colombian SW's prior to the Pandemic being as hard core as some of the Venezuelan SW's are today.

But I don't blame them, and respect them as they are just trying to make a living.

I told my friend he would have better luck with the Colombians.

So for many of the board members who recently started mongering here, they don't know how different it was prior to the Pandemic. And for many they think this place is the best thing since sliced bread.

Unfortunately though there is not much that can done about this except to convene a grand jury of Medellin mongers, and if I am found culpable in the demise of mongering here I guess send me off to prison somewhere. LOL.

I remember you admitted that an increase of gringo in Centro will harm the price structure and the relationship between the girls and western clients a few years ago. Also you knew that the gringos who are likely to come to Centro are those with problematic characters. Still you couldn't stop bragging your "knowledge" and street smartness, and told everybody to come to Centro.

[Gabacho]

Bcos of crass statements like the one you made. Venzlan woman are lazy fkn bltches, as if you had great insight in to the matter, and not some general slur based on your own anecdotal sample of a handful of them. One could meet a group of women from ant country in the world and conclude the same thing, so what you said was just meaningless nonsense based on some bias you have from being a victim urself. Crime happens everywhere. No need to tarnish a whole nation because some skank stole your cigarettes.

Well you go ahead and stand up for them all you want, it's futile. I'm done trying talk any sense into you. And it wasn't cigarettes that were stolen, maybe if your reading comprehension skills were better you would have read that it was a laptop and a camera, not a pack of cigarettes.

[Gabacho]

Yes and where did you find or how did you first come into contact with this person?

A friend of a botero girl.

[JustTK]

JusTK, please do enlighten us as to why you are standing up for these dirty venecas??

Bcos of crass statements like the one you made. Venzlan woman are lazy fkn bltches, as if you had great insight in to the matter, and not some general slur based on your own anecdotal sample of a handful of them. One could meet a group of women from ant country in the world and conclude the same thing, so what you said was just meaningless nonsense based on some bias you have from being a victim urself. Crime happens everywhere. No need to tarnish a whole nation because some skank stole your cigarettes.

[Mr Enternational]

Let's see, how about the pregnant lesbian dyke chick that stole my laptop and camera out of my backpack on my first day of my Jan thru March trip, she was Venezuelan. You see I have first hand experiences to back up my claims. I'm not just talking out my ass like MB1 would do.

Yes and where did you find or how did you first come into contact with this person?

[MongerHunger]

I was amused when you still continue to try to correct LIH. LOL.

Look at it this way, the gringos changed the character of many places. I think it started with Parque Lleras. It's been changed so much that I think regular girl will avoid it so not be mistaken as a hooker. It's only a matter of time to see the changes in the strip clubs and on the street. I saw all these unfolding on ISG and in person. You can see the clue on the report today. Also checkout Nypher's post in Cartagena thread to see the changes.. LOL

The key is to get off the beaten path in Colombia where a lot of things are not changing. Most gringos do not go there. It can also be a true cultural experience.