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  1. #2230
    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyWalker55  [View Original Post]
    It's not a vaccine, so stop calling it that. And linking an article from usa today (LOL!) shows me where you're at. the author is a mouthpiece for big pharma, linking clinical trials as proof of "vaccine" effectiveness
    "trust the science! Debunked!
    Like I said, you can't discuss the ineffectiveness of the covid shot with people who got it, because of the inherent bias.
    if you can't see mandates as a power grab from the powers that be, I don't know what to tell you.
    You know that many of the popular dctionaries have actually had to change their definition of vaccine, to accommodate the latest addition? They used to define it as a shot that gave immunity. But bcos the CV shot doesn't do that, they had to redfine what a fkn vax is! Haha. Tells you a lot.

    They have also started to redefine what an anti-vaxxer is. Used to be someone that disuputed the efficacy of vaxxes or believed some hocus-pocus about tracking systems and space invaders. Now it includes those who argue against mandates. Its incredible. Truly, truly dystopian. Hope some of the smarter folks will eventually wake up to this.

  2. #2229

    ?

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyWalker55  [View Original Post]
    No, it doesn't reduce transmission, what it does is reduce the chance of death, and even that is proving not effective.
    Of course you provide no source material for this claim that the vaccines are "proving" to be ineffective against reducing mortality. And in fact, the one working link you provided, to the UC Davis article contradicts this claim and even your whole thesis altogether. See below. Have you been taking lessons from Elvis on sourcing?

    "Although vaccinated people with a breakthrough infection are much less likely to become severely ill than unvaccinated, the new study shows that they can be carrying similar amounts of virus and could potentially spread the virus to other people. This study did not directly address how easily vaccinated people can get infected with SARS-CoV-2, or how readily someone with a breakthrough infection can transmit the virus.

    'Our study does not provide information on infectiousness,' Michelmore said. 'Transmission will be influenced by several factors, not just vaccination status and viral load.'

    Those factors could include, for example, when they were vaccinated and with what vaccine, the underlying status of their immune system, and the intensity of exposure.

    It's very important to get vaccinated, Michelmore said, because vaccines greatly reduce the risk of severe disease, but you should not assume that because you are vaccinated you cannot get infected or transmit the disease to others. Mask-wearing and regular testing remain important, especially in areas of high prevalence."

    Also your attempt to dismiss the USA Today fact check article, with no basis other than to appeal to your right wingnut media "big pharma" conspiracy theory is likewise a joke. That article is full of imbedded links to supporting sources, so if you want to discredit them all get to work. Thus far all you've offered is BS not above third rate barstool banter, while still calling Covid the flu and declaring anyone "healthy" under 65 safe. There's been many who've found themselves on their backs recanting such statements and some are now in the ground. Not to mention that the world is full of 40 and 50 somethings that think they are "healthy" but a thorough examination reveals otherwise.

    P.S. It bears repeating. The overwhelming majority of those dying of Covid in the US are the unvaccinated, so man up and get the jab guys. Follow the advice of the article Johnny Walker just posted. He likely pulled it off a right wingnut blog, and those guys also have a habit of posting articles without reading them.

  3. #2228

    Has the CDC "redefined" what fully vaxed is yet, according to them?

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    That is good to know. My gal said it is being enforced in Bogota, Cartagena, and Barranquilla with establishments being fined up to 1 million COP. That is anecdotal but I think it is true.

    I had to scrounge around and find my vaccine card. Anyway, I look at it and you know what is there? There are two lines under the first 2 injections marked other and other. In other words, these fuckers knew the vaccine was going to fail and planned on boosters as soon as the vaccine was rolled out.

    And the most vaccinated country on earth, Gibaltar, which is 99 to 118% vaccinated, is seeing an explosion in cases.

    https://www.gibraltar.gov.gi/press-r...g-8452021-7433

    https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/m...er-surge-cases

    And they are going on lockdown.

    Then you have Ireland at 93% going on lockdown as well.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/93...idnight-curfew.
    The next cards could be larger and have 20 empty lines.

  4. #2227
    Quote Originally Posted by Villainy  [View Original Post]
    I'm vaccinated and it was here in Colombia. I don't really care that some people don't want to get vaccinated. The main objection I have is most people who post negative comments on here about the vaccine are blissfully unaware of the realities involved. Just look at what you said. This "shitty treatment" reduces the likelihood of you receiving the infection by dramatic percentages. It also greatly reduces the possibility of you spreading the virus too.


    (I. E. You are anywhere from 50%-90% less likely to get the infection (depending on how long ago you received the vaccination) and since you are less likely to contract the virus in the first place you are also less likely to transmit it. (I. E. You can't transmit it if you don't have it). Also you are going to recover more quickly and less likely to die. If you get the virus and recover faster. Then the window of 'having it' to spread it is smaller also.

    Is the vaccine perfect? No, not yet. You can still get the infection but it is much less likely. You make another stupid comment about 'real vaccines' not needing boosters. Well here are a few vaccines where boosters are the norm. Hepatitis A, Hepatitis be, Measles, Tetanus, Shingles, Pneumonia among others.

    Here is an article talking about these issues from USA Today. It also includes the sources for much of their commentary.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...on/6403678001/
    No, it doesn't reduce transmission, what it does is reduce the chance of death, and even that is proving not effective. Which is why the cdc mandated masks for indoor spaces again. And why you need boosters because the effectiveness is under 50% after 6 months. This isn't even debatable. Because the vaccine does nothing to reduce transmission, especially with variants (that occur naturally, not because of the evil unvaxxed). because it's a respiratory virus, and vaccines don't exist for respiratory viruses. only treatments.

    https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(21)00648-4/fulltext

    https://www.ucdavis.edu/health/covid...cinated-people

    2 peer reviewed medical journals. ^ . trust the science

    Get the shot if you want, I don't care. But mandating it is simply ridiculous. if you're not over 65/have 2 comorbidities it's literally the flu. statistically with the IFR. and if you're under 18 it's non lethal. literally And we have to take boosters every six months for shingles, tetanus, hepatitis? Seriously lmao?

    It's not a vaccine, so stop calling it that. And linking an article from usa today (LOL!) shows me where you're at. the author is a mouthpiece for big pharma, linking clinical trials as proof of "vaccine" effectiveness
    "trust the science! Debunked!

    Like I said, you can't discuss the ineffectiveness of the covid shot with people who got it, because of the inherent bias.

    if you can't see mandates as a power grab from the powers that be, I don't know what to tell you.

  5. #2226

    Lolol

    Quote Originally Posted by Woodman09  [View Original Post]
    Wow, so many BrainWashed DkHds out there..
    Pot calling the kettle black. Find the nearest mirror.

  6. #2225

    Yep

    Quote Originally Posted by Villainy  [View Original Post]
    I'm vaccinated and it was here in Colombia. I don't really care that some people don't want to get vaccinated. The main objection I have is most people who post negative comments on here about the vaccine are blissfully unaware of the realities involved. Just look at what you said. This "shitty treatment" reduces the likelihood of you receiving the infection by dramatic percentages. It also greatly reduces the possibility of you spreading the virus too.

    (I. E. You are anywhere from 50%-90% less likely to get the infection (depending on how long ago you received the vaccination) and since you are less likely to contract the virus in the first place you are also less likely to transmit it. (I. E. You can't transmit it if you don't have it). Also you are going to recover more quickly and less likely to die. If you get the virus and recover faster. Then the window of 'having it' to spread it is smaller also.

    Is the vaccine perfect? No, not yet. You can still get the infection but it is much less likely. You make another stupid comment about 'real vaccines' not needing boosters. Well here are a few vaccines where boosters are the norm. Hepatitis A, Hepatitis be, Measles, Tetanus, Shingles, Pneumonia among others.

    Here is an article talking about these issues from USA Today. It also includes the sources for much of their commentary.
    And thank you for bringing a link with evidence, something besides the unsubstantiated, unsourced, dishonest by omission, rehased poop spun out by parrots who only read right wingnut media. There's a reason why the vast majority of individuals dying from Covid since the vaccine rollouts are the unvaccinated. Duh. It doesn't take a rocket scientist.

  7. #2224
    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyWalker55  [View Original Post]
    Never knew govt / big pharma could wage such a stong propaganda campaign, I'm sure you'd be the first one to tell the brownshirts where anne frank was.

    Then again, you can't have an intelligent discussion with vaccinated people because of the inherent bias, because the alternative to them being "right" is realizing they were duped with a shitty treatment shot that doesn't "stop the spread" or prevent you from contracting covid, like real vaccines do for polio or cholera. Enjoy your required boosters every six months for the rest of your life because of your *now* compromised immune system. sickening.
    Wow, so many BrainWashed DkHds out there. Getting poopied pants for people not accepting Poison into their body. CovidVax is a Lottery of Death and serious Illness and you're a piece of Sht for not wanting to risk your life. Just wow. Neurotic psycho vaxer DkHds.

  8. #2223

    Seriously?

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyWalker55  [View Original Post]
    Never knew govt / big pharma could wage such a stong propaganda campaign, I'm sure you'd be the first one to tell the brownshirts where anne frank was.

    Then again, you can't have an intelligent discussion with vaccinated people because of the inherent bias, because the alternative to them being "right" is realizing they were duped with a shitty treatment shot that doesn't "stop the spread" or prevent you from contracting covid, like real vaccines do for polio or cholera. Enjoy your required boosters every six months for the rest of your life because of your *now* compromised immune system. sickening.
    I'm vaccinated and it was here in Colombia. I don't really care that some people don't want to get vaccinated. The main objection I have is most people who post negative comments on here about the vaccine are blissfully unaware of the realities involved. Just look at what you said. This "shitty treatment" reduces the likelihood of you receiving the infection by dramatic percentages. It also greatly reduces the possibility of you spreading the virus too.

    (I. E. You are anywhere from 50%-90% less likely to get the infection (depending on how long ago you received the vaccination) and since you are less likely to contract the virus in the first place you are also less likely to transmit it. (I. E. You can't transmit it if you don't have it). Also you are going to recover more quickly and less likely to die. If you get the virus and recover faster. Then the window of 'having it' to spread it is smaller also.

    Is the vaccine perfect? No, not yet. You can still get the infection but it is much less likely. You make another stupid comment about 'real vaccines' not needing boosters. Well here are a few vaccines where boosters are the norm. Hepatitis A, Hepatitis be, Measles, Tetanus, Shingles, Pneumonia among others.

    Here is an article talking about these issues from USA Today. It also includes the sources for much of their commentary.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...on/6403678001/

  9. #2222
    Quote Originally Posted by Huacho  [View Original Post]
    I'll bite on this one. You're not a hero for being in the military, because as you say, it's just a job choice. But you are a piece of shit for not getting vaccinated. So, bottom line, you're just a piece of shit like every other unvaccinated asshole running around threatening others.
    Go to Austria, birthplace of Hitler, where vaccinations (sic) by bullies are compulsory.

  10. #2221

    Disgusting

    Quote Originally Posted by Huacho  [View Original Post]
    I'll bite on this one. You're not a hero for being in the military, because as you say, it's just a job choice. But you are a piece of shit for not getting vaccinated. So, bottom line, you're just a piece of shit like every other unvaccinated asshole running around threatening others.
    Never knew govt / big pharma could wage such a stong propaganda campaign, I'm sure you'd be the first one to tell the brownshirts where anne frank was.

    Then again, you can't have an intelligent discussion with vaccinated people because of the inherent bias, because the alternative to them being "right" is realizing they were duped with a shitty treatment shot that doesn't "stop the spread" or prevent you from contracting covid, like real vaccines do for polio or cholera. Enjoy your required boosters every six months for the rest of your life because of your *now* compromised immune system. sickening.

  11. #2220
    Austria, birth place of Herr Hitler, has mandated the clot shot for all. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...BFSND5uU3BrS3o.

  12. #2219
    Quote Originally Posted by JustTK  [View Original Post]
    Yeah, I am still here. Just spent the past week in Sta Marta. Loved it. Yeah, they instroduced the measures while I was there. Seems a lot of places are displaying the notices at the moment, but no one is enforcing it. Maybe once the police recogise tbhis as a new opportunity to extort cash, they might be forced in to being compliant with the state mandates. Difficult to predict which way it will go. Will the people riot and overthrow the new manadtes, will the business organisers ignore the rules and the government lose motivation, will the police get heavy, will confirence in the virus continue to slide and everyone give up. Who knows. And all this is a country where the virus is already well under control. Its just farcical, it really is.
    That is good to know. My gal said it is being enforced in Bogota, Cartagena, and Barranquilla with establishments being fined up to 1 million COP. That is anecdotal but I think it is true.

    I had to scrounge around and find my vaccine card. Anyway, I look at it and you know what is there? There are two lines under the first 2 injections marked other and other. In other words, these fuckers knew the vaccine was going to fail and planned on boosters as soon as the vaccine was rolled out.

    And the most vaccinated country on earth, Gibaltar, which is 99 to 118% vaccinated, is seeing an explosion in cases.

    https://www.gibraltar.gov.gi/press-r...g-8452021-7433

    https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/m...er-surge-cases

    And they are going on lockdown.

    Then you have Ireland at 93% going on lockdown as well.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/93...idnight-curfew

    You would think by now we would learn but we don't.

    I love the Charlie Brown Peanuts comic strips where Charlie Brown went to kick a football and Lucy would pull it back, and Charlie Brown would fall on his ass.

    https://*******.com/4yx6ey62

    In fact, when I went on seeking dates, I would inevitably run into women who would get cold feet at the last minute and cancel. I called that pulling a Lucy.

    Things is the so called "scientists" keep pulling a Lucy with the American public. The pandemic will be over if you wash your hands, social distance, wear masks, get your vaccine ETC. You would think after 100 million cases that the public would be like, "Oh no, you guys are full of it. We are no longer listening to you", but they have not.

    As for you JustTK, it is hilarious to me that your own actions to prevent getting sick (or trying to) are looked at with disdain. Like you JustTK, the reason I have avoided getting sick IMO were my own actions: staying away from people who looked sick, keeping conversations to a minimum especially with people who looked sick or had Covid. I have seen hundreds of people with Covid and have not gotten myself.

    The irony is that when I shared what worked with me, I had some douche here say, "Avoiding sick people is not going to cut it. " Where do these douches get off saying crap like that? Why would anyone believe Fauci and all the "scientists" after all we have seen?

  13. #2218
    Quote Originally Posted by Huacho  [View Original Post]
    I'll bite on this one. You're not a hero for being in the military, because as you say, it's just a job choice. But you are a piece of shit for not getting vaccinated. So, bottom line, you're just a piece of shit like every other unvaccinated asshole running around threatening others.
    In the UK, there are about 1800 people making claims against vaccine manufacturers. See the link: https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/v...soar-next-year.

    The Vaccine Damage Payment Scheme (VDPS) is a one-off tax-free payment of 120,000 ($160,000) if someone is proved to have been severely disabled as a result of vaccination from diseases such as measles, mumps, and rubella (MMR), swine flu, and more. Historically, the average number of annual assessments for the scheme has been 100. It is now estimated that there will be 1,500 to 1,800 claims, according to the tender document.

    110,206,709 vaccine doses have been administered in the country as of Nov. 17.

    Given that it takes 2500 shots to prevent one life, and that varies based on age and health condition, it seems to me that you are a real dick for making fun of someone's health care decision making, but this is what we have come to expect from you Democratic douches.

    Seriously, where the fuck do you get off injecting yourself into someone's most personal decision? Maybe we should be checking to make sure that condom is correctly on your dick when you go to fuck.

    The other part that is disgusting is that in the USA, the vaccine manufacturers get a pass from lawsuits. And the government officials who are pushing the vaccines are legally immune is well. That is not exactly confidence inspiring. Of course, a douche like you is in favor of the government getting a pass on any responsibility.

    I am so sick of you freedom hating douches cheering on government irresponsibility. I still do not get why you cheer on the same government that has made it so profitable for women to soak men so badly that you have to go to Colombia.

  14. #2217
    Quote Originally Posted by Huacho  [View Original Post]
    I'll bite on this one. You're not a hero for being in the military, because as you say, it's just a job choice. But you are a piece of shit for not getting vaccinated. So, bottom line, you're just a piece of shit like every other unvaccinated asshole running around threatening others.
    The vaccine is so successful that the vaccinated have to have a lockdown in Austria.

    I would never have taken the vaccine if I had known how badly the vaccinated would be treated, I can't even travel to Dubai nor Brazil without having to take a PCR- test just like the unvaccinated.

    The vaccine is a scam.

  15. #2216

    Hydra!

    Democrats either took some really good notes watching Marvel or they are Hydra!

    "Hydra was founded on the belief that humanity could not be trusted with its own freedom. What we did not realize was that if you tried to take that freedom, they resist. The war taught us much. Humanity needed to surrender its freedom willingly." COVID!

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