Stupid shit in Medellin

[Nounce]

.... But I'm learning and eventually I will get there, and I can guarantee that is going to happen very soon, not in a decade. I'm a fast learner)....

I guess what you enjoy is the hunt.

About age, I think youth is a more important factor for men. But for women, it's only part of the look. I do think look is important if you are in a competition which you are. Age is part of the look but not the determining factor for women to choose a man.

I can give you a few examples, I think you won't have advantage over RR99 even if he is 10 years older than he is now. You won't have the advantage over Elvis as well. Because he is going to dress much better and with larger budget. He figures out how to make it into a coemption for him. Or do you think girls will choose you over George Clooney because of your age? I am not even sure most girls will choose the younger version of George Clooney over the older one because the older one has more to offer.

I agree about chemistry. It's how you frame it that is the problem. If you fuck 100 10's and 100 8's, can you honestly say the sex is absolutely better with all the 10's. I think the answer is no based on your past posts. Then why keep arguing about it and put down choices of others?

You are not comparing the same woman. I agree that sex is better with chemistry. Do all women give you the same type of sex? No. You can't really say your sex with woman A is better than someone else with woman B because you are not someone else and woman A is not woman B.

There are other way to create chemistry. I remember Gobacho made a post about the girl told him not to let others know about BBFS after the second session. The first time he got was all covered but the second time is completely different. He can do it this way, because it is cheap. One probably would not try this with a girl that charges 500

[Elvis 2008]

Are we talking about real relationship or a paid one? I have gotten 9's and maybe even 10's on someone's scale, but those girls were not real girlfriends (but very close though). But I'm learning and eventually I will get there, and I can guarantee that is going to happen very soon, not in a decade. I'm a fast learner) I can't post pics of the girls that I scored here on public forum, but I can PM you if you want to check them out.

Nah, I know you have good taste and do not let JJBee and his dumb crew talk you out of what a 1 or 10 is. Hell, everything is rated on a scale. Look at google reviews. I just did reviews on a hotel, car dealer, and airline with one to 10 ratings, and the erotic review is probably the most popular review site there has ever been and rates women one to 10, and their reviews for the most part have been right on.

Maybe you can ask JJBee to write a 10 page novel on why an elite woman and a woman who is a 10 are different.

As far as what you will learn, if you progress, you will get away from the dumb women like X crap. Whenever a guy says, you know women like X what they are really saying is I have X (young, good looking, rich) and women should like that. It is really stupid and it objectifies women. What the women want and need does not matter?

If you focus on a woman's needs, you will get their attention. If you can anticipate their needs better than they can, you will have them eating out of your hand. That is how you get them, but once you land a 10 type, then after time, unless you really are in love with her, you will get bored. The sexual pleasure will not be as good; the novelty will wear out, and the woman will think she has you locked up. For whatever reason after 3 months, most women seem to think sex is no longer a priority in pleasing their man, but they expect the money to keep pouring in.

Do you know on the Simpsons the guy Smithers? He is really supposed to be a pathetic yes man but if you think about this kind of a guy he really has a lot of power and wealth. What I mean is that the kind of guy the beauty queen girls like. They want a guy who helps them looks good, who builds their brand, who knows what they like and gives it to them. And that is what happened when I met Miss Cartagena. That is what she was looking for (though I do not think she knew what she was looking for) and needed, but also, and this is important, when you have someone judgmental like her, you have to show you are not a pushover.

Usually it is women who like to care for their man versus vice versa but there are men who are caretakers too. And when you have a "star" like her, there is value in knowing how to handle them and getting them dependent on you. Maybe you like to do that MB. I don't. I want a woman who makes me feel good not vice versa. You may think you do not want to be a Smithers type but this was a high powered woman going to numerous interesting events with the rich and powerful. She is and will be a mover and shaker. The stupid part about the guys here is they focused on her looks. Beauty pageant winners are supposed to be the ideal women not just good looking, and this woman had a shit load going for her.

So you may think you know what you need and want, but the women will test you, and you will learn what you need from them and what you are happy with in a woman. You think you know but until you cycle through a lot of women, you really will not.

In the beauty queen's case, she had a shit load of expectations including monogamy after we had sex one time. I asked her later with that expectation, "And when did I agree to that?" She was shocked when I was talking to another woman after she went to bed. She left the room and slammed the door, and I did not come crying after her.

What was so dumb about your age comment MB is that a woman tried the same crap with me. She thought she deserved credit for putting up with my being older, and she tried to break up with me when I was not talking to her that much thinking that she deserved credit for being with someone older, and I would be smitten with her and could not find someone else. Well, the reason I was not talking to her is that I had found a better girl, and she was stunned when I eventually told her.

My goal was to always have a harem and to constantly be trying to improve it. The women eventually learned that when you have others waiting in the wings not to be so stuck up. In the end, the beauty queen said she loved me, and if you really got the context, it was not about the money. She really did love me or thought she did because I was one of the few guys who knew what she needed and could give it to her, but I was not interested in being her Smithers. So yeah, you could say I blew off Miss Cartagena.

[JjBee62]

For a guy who thrives on slouching on his truck stop bed making up original insults you are sorely lacking in originality Thus anyone who takes issue with this hyper sensitive twit needs mental health treatment, but with this finger three are always pointing back at you. What a lost cause, a drooping physical wreck with the emotional maturity of an 8 year old, jumping to type out War and Peace to any real or perceived slight in a hooker forum. LOL.

And you aren't an "over achieving truck driver. " What over achiever can at 58 years old fit all their worldly belongings in two suitcases as you so confirmed?? And what over achiever would fly to Colombia and work for a year for free, stiffed week after week as a buttboy for a webcam model he met beating off online?? What an absolute disaster, where the word achievement can't even begin to enter the discussion. Hell you don't even know anything to speak of about Medellin or even how to handle hookers generally as you keep getting your pocket picked, thinking you have girlfriends while leaving your pants and money unattended when you go to the bathroom. But anyway you and Elvis do carry on. Happy New Year one and all.

It's good to see you recovered and Happy New Year to you too. I was a bit worried when your brief love affair with Elvis shattered (maybe MiamiBoy will be your true love). That was a horribly cruel thing he did, claiming nobody appreciated how true of a friend you had been. I bet your twitch looked like The Rockettes practicing on your face after that exchange. A part of me enjoyed revisiting your "acts of true friendship. " However, it was also a sad event. You probably once had potential, but now all you can do is scream irrationally while drinking yourself into oblivion.

"Truck stop bed?" What is that? And why would I crouch on one? And a physical wreck? Not so sure that's somewhere you want to go. It does make me smile, since just 8 days ago, 4 middle aged Colombian women, along with 2 young Colombian women, were asking me how I had such a good body. Don't get me wrong, my body is 60 years old and just walking up the hill from Parque Poblado to the upper end of Provenza wears me out. I recognize my flaws. However, what you fantasize about me (and fantasize is the right word, since you always imagine me in a sexual situation) doesn't match up with reality, or with how others see me.

That would have been 55 years old, with the 2 suitcases. If you're going to only live in the past, at least get it right. You did get one thing right. A hooker did pick my pocket while I was in the bathroom and in the morning, I took the money back. Would you call that a better or worse outcome than waking up in a hospital after getting set up, drugged and robbed by "a friend?

Why dwell on the past, instead of the present? If the past is more important why not talk about when I had to wear diapers and be fed from a bottle? Or is that too close to your present condition?

[Paulie97]

Still struggling with the mental health

For a guy who thrives on slouching on his truck stop bed making up original insults you are sorely lacking in originality Thus anyone who takes issue with this hyper sensitive twit needs mental health treatment, but with this finger three are always pointing back at you. What a lost cause, a drooping physical wreck with the emotional maturity of an 8 year old, jumping to type out War and Peace to any real or perceived slight in a hooker forum. LOL.

And you aren't an "over achieving truck driver. " What over achiever can at 58 years old fit all their worldly belongings in two suitcases as you so confirmed?? And what over achiever would fly to Colombia and work for a year for free, stiffed week after week as a buttboy for a webcam model he met beating off online?? What an absolute disaster, where the word achievement can't even begin to enter the discussion. Hell you don't even know anything to speak of about Medellin or even how to handle hookers generally as you keep getting your pocket picked, thinking you have girlfriends while leaving your pants and money unattended when you go to the bathroom. But anyway you and Elvis do carry on. Happy New Year one and all.

[Huacho]

LOL. Only time that I use pesos is when I am paying a hooker, taxi, or Indriver. Everything else I use a credit card.

Right. But don't tell them that.

[JjBee62]

Yeah, there are very few guys who act like they are worthy of 9's and 10's here.

Still struggling with the mental health and reading comprehension I see.

I don't act like I'm worthy of 9's and 10's. I'm not a dog walking around licking boots hoping someone will pet me. I'm worthy of myself. Trying to be worthy of anyone else is just pathetic.

So 9's and 10's cannot provide good service. And you would know that how?

Where did I say that? I merely stated what anyone can clearly see, if they can read and understand English. Guys write more about level of service than appearance. No mention of 9's or 10's at all.

Well, you said you are not going after 9's and 10's. You said no guys here can date Colombian elite. You were too dumb to pick out a Colombian beauty queen from a girl winning a wet t-shirt contest. Your crew has said that all the women in Colombian available to foreign guys are from a few neighborhoods, and you all brag about hanging around centro and we all know what is there, and very few of you produce any pics. The one time you did I said your gal was cute, but the rest of them? What are we supposed to think?

Again, where did I say these things? I don't use a 1-10 scale, I've said that many times, mostly because I'm no longer 14 and I realize how silly and childish that is. I certainly don't recall saying no guys can date the Colombian elite, just that they aren't going to find them where they're looking. That's mainly because most, especially you, have no idea who the "Colombian elite" are. I'll give you a clue. If she's got a kid and isn't married, she's not elite. In fact, she's almost certainly not even middle class. That's something the elite take very seriously.

When did I get a crew? Makes me feel like I need to buy some matching shirts and join a bowling league. I don't have a crew. I have friends. There are a lot of amazing guys in Medellin, and when possible I'll meet up with them for a beer or lunch.

The majority of girls selling pussy in Medellin are from a few neighborhoods. I don't know why that bothers you. It's just reality.

Nobody on my "crew", whoever they are, brags about hanging around El Centro. I go to El Centro, walk around, have a beer or 2, maybe eat lunch, maybe meet up with someone, maybe hang out in a strip club or visit a casa with someone. Then I head back to where I'm staying. I know guys who prefer to hang out in El Centro. I also know guys who never go there.

You produce very few pics. Your "Colombian beauty queen" looked no different than what you'll find at any county fair, or local celebration around the world. Put up a picture you took when she was being judged on a national level, instead of standing in the dirt.

Personally, I've put up pics several times. None from El Centro, because I really don't partake in El Centro. Logistics. It's easier to get other girls to where I'm staying than to bring one from El Centro.

What are you supposed to think? You're getting ahead of yourself. First, learn to think. Speaking only for myself, what you think ranks somewhere near the texture of my shit on my personal "give a fuck" scale.

Well then put up your pics and let us see. I am amazed at how many of the guys claiming other guys overpaid never show photos of their women. Hell, we got guys putting up pics of models and Miss Colombia and other guys are saying they are 5's and 7's. Again, where are their 10's?

Where are yours? I put up a pic of mine and abiding by your requirements, I've been exclusive to her. Kinda broken up with her now, but I haven't rushed out to find a replacement.

Oh yeah. Not everyone is interested in models or former Miss Colombias.

And here you go again. In what world do you think you are the equal of everyone here? My gal got pregnant and pulled herself up by her boot straps. She got a government job, worked out 3 hours a day, and has been an amazing mother with a child with a bright future. She is in her early 30's and done more with her life than you have. Sad to say, but I think neither she nor her daughter wants an underachieving truck driver as her male role model, and that was what was important to her. Can you believe that? Yeah, she was not just straight up about cash or looks. I can see why dumb asses like you and your crew think a woman like that cannot exist.

I'm not the equal of anyone. Why would I try to limit myself like that? I'm me. I'm the only me there is. I'm only equal to myself. I think you mixed up your speech for your next KKK meeting with your post on ISG.

You failed to answer the question. You claimed you found the perfect replacement for the Venezuelan you moved, along with her family, to Peru, and she's in Mexico City. Earlier this year you claimed to have found the perfect replacement and she was in Cartagena (30's with a kid). Before that there were several other perfect replacements. I just want to know how you can dedicate yourself to a woman and have it be a different woman every 4-6 months.

She's done more with her life than I have? I haven't done anything with her life. I probably wouldn't even pay to fuck her. I've fucked plenty with kids, but why pay for 1 in her 30's with a kid when it's easy to get 1 10 years younger. Or did you mean she's done more with her life than I've done with mine? How do you measure that? I would think needing to fuck gringos to support your kid would be a negative thing.

I'm actually an overachieving truck driver. You wouldn't understand the difference, because it is in the group of things you'll never understand: anything.

Role model, did you say? Do you honestly believe that I want a kid, whose mother was too irresponsible to keep from having until she could support it, to look at me as a role model? I expect she'll end up like most Colombian girls, idolizing strippers and hookers. Let me know when she hits 18. I'll give her something to look up to. My balls.

Back to my "crew. " I still don't know who is in this imaginary "crew", but I always knew that 30 something women, working dead end jobs, trying to support their illegitimate kids and fucking anyone who would buy them drinks, or pay their rent, existed. Shit. I can't go to a bar or restaurant in the US without 1 of them smiling at me. I'm just baffled why anyone would make a big deal over one.

And MB is right about better chemistry meaning better sex and kudos to him for thinking he can get a 9 or 10, but he is decades away from doing it. He complains too much, and those dumb comments about older men show me that he is not only clueless about older men but people in general including women. He is going to get his ass kicked by women but I am not sure he learns anything from it.

And your point?

If you want a guy I admire, look at ricerocket. He ignores you and your crew, gives you all shit, and has a great time to boot. Hell, he even landed a 9-10 type as a GF because he went for it and thought he was worthy of it. He is like me in that he say fuck you to anyone who says he cannot date the elite or land a 9 or 10.

I don't want a guy. It doesn't matter whether you admire them or not. I just don't feel any sexual attraction towards guys. However, Ricerocket is quite handsome and a really nice guy. I might give him a handjob if he got me drunk. Met him a few years back at the Viva mall in Envigado and had lunch. He's a party all night kinda guy and I'm not. We did discover something together. The Davivienda ATM which let me pull 2 million at a time limited him to 400 k.

I never realized he was giving me shit, or was ignoring me (which seems like a contradiction). Maybe he can tell me who my "crew" is. Whatever he's doing, I'm happy for him. He's enjoying his life the way he wants and mostly doesn't worry about everyone else's business. Although it is disturbing that he's giving me shit. It seems so out of character. Are you sure you're not just making things up again?

[MiamiBoy1]

And MB is right about better chemistry meaning better sex and kudos to him for thinking he can get a 9 or 10, but he is decades away from doing it. He complains too much, and those dumb comments about older men show me that he is not only clueless about older men but people in general including women. He is going to get his ass kicked by women but I am not sure he learns anything from it.

Are we talking about real relationship or a paid one? I have gotten 9's and maybe even 10's on someone's scale, but those girls were not real girlfriends (but very close though). But I'm learning and eventually I will get there, and I can guarantee that is going to happen very soon, not in a decade. I'm a fast learner) I can't post pics of the girls that I scored here on public forum, but I can PM you if you want to check them out.

Not sure you meant by saying I will get my ass kicked by women, but I'm sure I will learn from it.

[Elvis 2008]

Almost nobody on this board obsesses over whether their girls are 9's or 10's.

Yeah, there are very few guys who act like they are worthy of 9's and 10's here.

While many will throw out numbers, most write more about the service. For most, that's the final piece which determines their satisfaction. Almost everyone is limiting their experiences to women they find attractive. Based on their reports, given a choice of repeating with the more attractive girl with bad service, or the less attractive girl with exceptional service, they'll take the service.

So 9's and 10's cannot provide good service. And you would know that how?

The part that bothers me the most is where you repeat the same thing as a few others, like MB. You assume that everyone else, with few exceptions, is only seeing fat and ugly girls. However, also with few exceptions, you have no clue who everyone is fucking or what they look like.

Well, you said you are not going after 9's and 10's. You said no guys here can date Colombian elite. You were too dumb to pick out a Colombian beauty queen from a girl winning a wet t-shirt contest. Your crew has said that all the women in Colombian available to foreign guys are from a few neighborhoods, and you all brag about hanging around centro and we all know what is there, and very few of you produce any pics. The one time you did I said your gal was cute, but the rest of them? What are we supposed to think?

It's just one of those silly, unnecessary judgemental things which obliterates any worthwhile contributions.

Well then put up your pics and let us see. I am amazed at how many of the guys claiming other guys overpaid never show photos of their women. Hell, we got guys putting up pics of models and Miss Colombia and other guys are saying they are 5's and 7's. Again, where are their 10's?

I admit to being curious about the replacement you finally found in Mexico city, since you've reported finding the perfect replacement several times on here. Wasn't the most recent one in Cartagena?

It's not important. As long as you're happy.

And here you go again. In what world do you think you are the equal of everyone here? My gal got pregnant and pulled herself up by her boot straps. She got a government job, worked out 3 hours a day, and has been an amazing mother with a child with a bright future. She is in her early 30's and done more with her life than you have. Sad to say, but I think neither she nor her daughter wants an underachieving truck driver as her male role model, and that was what was important to her. Can you believe that? Yeah, she was not just straight up about cash or looks. I can see why dumb asses like you and your crew think a woman like that cannot exist.

And MB is right about better chemistry meaning better sex and kudos to him for thinking he can get a 9 or 10, but he is decades away from doing it. He complains too much, and those dumb comments about older men show me that he is not only clueless about older men but people in general including women. He is going to get his ass kicked by women but I am not sure he learns anything from it.

If you want a guy I admire, look at ricerocket. He ignores you and your crew, gives you all shit, and has a great time to boot. Hell, he even landed a 9-10 type as a GF because he went for it and thought he was worthy of it. He is like me in that he say fuck you to anyone who says he cannot date the elite or land a 9 or 10.

[GringoAdvent]

Hey All,

Will be in MDE for the first time from 1/2 - 1/13 and working remotely. Are there any groups here or on whatsup for fellow gringos in the city to get to know each other?

I did Cartagena completely solo and wish I had put the effort into getting to know some fellow members.

[JjBee62]

You guys sure like to act like smart asses don't you.

1. It was just a question out of curiosity.

2. Stating the obvious doesn't help.

As far as a girl talking dollars. Again I haven't even landed in Colombia, when I do land and I finally talk to her in person, than and only than if I decide to have fun with her, I will remind her that I am only carrying with me pesos. Which is obvious. Since you know. I wonder how many of you actually use your brain before commenting instead of just making assumptions.

I'm really here for point #2, but first, your closing paragraph.

If you're out with a girl you just met and she's constantly scratching at her crotch, like a dog with fleas, you might think that's not somewhere you want to stick your junk. It's an obvious sign. You end the date and go take a shower. If you're just chatting with a girl and she keeps asking questions like "do you carry around a lot of cash", or "will you wear all your jewelry and best watch when we meet", you might figure you're being set up to be robbed. Those are signals anyone would recognize. So crying after you get crabs and get ripped off for $20,000 won't get you much sympathy.

People with experience in Medellin recognize signs that others won't see. For example, if you're talking to a girl and you think you've agreed on a date the next day, she's not going to show, because she gave you a Colombian "no. " Colombians have a strong aversion to direct contradiction. When asked a question, they will seldom tell you "no. " Instead they'll give an ambiguous "yes", like "okay, message me in the morning. " Guess who won't be responding to your messages for a few days (when she'll have an excuse)?

That one is across everything. If you're negotiating a huge contract for a multinational corporation, you can spend months trying to get the meetings that you thought had already been agreed upon.

One which is limited to mongering is when a girl asks for payment in dollars. Colombians don't think in dollars. Very few of the girls will know the exchange rate, or do the math. You can easily prove that by asking her how much in pesos. She'll likely come back with a number 20-35% off of the exchange rate (either way).

So they aren't being "smart", or recognizing their own value. They're following a script. You would immediately recognize the script if you had encountered it before, or if she mentioned "your vehicle's extended warranty. " However, you're trying to apply your logic to Colombians, which is like trying to put gloves on a snake.

Now to #2, Stating the obvious. Stating the obvious is quite important, because what you think is obvious doesn't necessarily apply in other countries or other situations.

Here's an obvious example. If a girl tells you she wants to bring a friend, so you can enjoy both, many people believe they're going to have a threesome. However, whereas a threesome is a battle Royale free for all, with everyone involved with everyone, that's not what will happen. What will usually happen is you'll have a 2 on 1 tag team match. While 1 girl is with you, the other will be out of reach, completely uninvolved and uninterested. Then they'll switch. Usually the result is you'll have a session which wasn't worth the price you paid for 1 girl, and you had to pay double.

Don't assume you know the obvious. Ask questions and pay attention to the answers, especially the answers which you think are wrong.

[The Cane]

I recently stumbled onto this interesting piece. Thought I would post it since there was some discussion here about this very topic:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2J3Y1PBcxD4

But take note of the one and only comment. The translation is, "While I agree with the message, I bet 99% of the customers in any brothel at anytime here in Colombia are Colombians. Sexual tourism is bad, but the sex industry existed before, and it doesn't exist today based on tourists". Now isn't that word? Prostitution is deeply embedded within Colombian society, it was there long before sexual tourism became a "thing", and it's not going anywhere. Sexual tourism or not. So they can try to block the sex tourists from partaking, but then what are the going to do? Pray tell will things really be any better since the principle clients (that would be Colombian men) will keep right on engaging in prostitution with Colombian tutes just like they always have? I don't think so. Not at all! Just more useless hypocrisy.

[Anthony2023]

LOL. Only time that I use pesos is when I am paying a hooker, taxi, or Indriver. Everything else I use a credit card.

So I'm guessing you haven't had any issues with paying with card.

I'm not sure about using a card at any restaurants or bars in Colombia. I always heard not to use cards in mexico.

I don't even like using cards at bars in the states.

[Anthony2023]

You are kind of broadcasting your ignorance. Sure there are girls who have photos on FaceBook fanning their US currency. Does that contradict what several people with real world experience have been telling you? Not in the slightest.

Maybe she works at Gusto's. There, the girls eagerly seek out new know-it-all vacationers who pay them in $US dollars (more precisely, overpay them dramatically in US dollars). Or perhaps they just got back from a working vacation in Panama or Ecuador. You are aware (silly me. You know everything) that the US Dollar is the fiat currency in Panama and Ecuador. Or perhaps they just got back from a working vacation in Cancun, Mexico or Cartagena and were paid by their American companion in US Dollars.

I'm sure there are other possibilities too. But when all is said and done. Girls in Medellin will expect payment in Colombian Pesos. That is what they use to pay their bills. If you are having conversations with girls and the payment discussion is in US dollars. Look out. An experienced hombre here, would know something is very strange. And to borrow a phrase used a lot in poker.

"If you don't know who the sucker is at the table, it's probably you.

You guys sure like to act like smart asses don't you.

1. It was just a question out of curiosity.

2. Stating the obvious doesn't help.

As far as a girl talking dollars. Again I haven't even landed in Colombia, when I do land and I finally talk to her in person, than and only than if I decide to have fun with her, I will remind her that I am only carrying with me pesos. Which is obvious. Since you know. I wonder how many of you actually use your brain before commenting instead of just making assumptions.

[Villainy]

That's interesting, I thought maybe it was a hint to let others know she does play for pay. $1 is good luck huh, I've seen a couple with $5 and at least a few with $100 bill. Guess she doesn't care about the risks.

You are kind of broadcasting your ignorance. Sure there are girls who have photos on FaceBook fanning their US currency. Does that contradict what several people with real world experience have been telling you? Not in the slightest.

Maybe she works at Gusto's. There, the girls eagerly seek out new know-it-all vacationers who pay them in $US dollars (more precisely, overpay them dramatically in US dollars). Or perhaps they just got back from a working vacation in Panama or Ecuador. You are aware (silly me. You know everything) that the US Dollar is the fiat currency in Panama and Ecuador. Or perhaps they just got back from a working vacation in Cancun, Mexico or Cartagena and were paid by their American companion in US Dollars.

I'm sure there are other possibilities too. But when all is said and done. Girls in Medellin will expect payment in Colombian Pesos. That is what they use to pay their bills. If you are having conversations with girls and the payment discussion is in US dollars. Look out. An experienced hombre here, would know something is very strange. And to borrow a phrase used a lot in poker.

"If you don't know who the sucker is at the table, it's probably you.

[Mr Enternational]

You got that half right. I tell them I have pesos. What's a credit card?

LOL. Only time that I use pesos is when I am paying a hooker, taxi, or Indriver. Everything else I use a credit card.